Zerg Tricks Everyone Should Know! - How to get more than 200 supply - Zerg Trick #1

[pasusuel]

just attack .......f-f-sake

[diastel1996]

WAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA THIS BRINGS ZERG SWARM TO A WHOLE NEW LEVEL.

[XiuixiuiX]

Nice trick never thought of that

[ginadab11]

i did this once, but didnt cancel the buildings on time...

[blacknight2345]

your videos were great and you had some great advice, but you also had some bad advice. the hold k and the creepless buildings were smart i use them myself , but the unlimited army was horrible. it is not cost effect or will it work early off you might have a chance but builds ultras take too long and roaches just wont cut it plus and silver or high tier person would change to air in a heart beat.

[babatch1]

making eco chamber is chaper :)

[lyraclaceras]

Actually I have seen this tactic used in a number of grand master level matches, ususally giving zerg about 210 - 220 supply, which can turn the favor around, especially when going against a maxed protoss ball.

[jayvng]

neat trick but i think only rare amount of people will attempt this trick

[Randy1337]

@jayvng lol?i do this all the time

[starcraftrocks1000]

this works i tried it



[shootingmen]

0:44 , ultra explosion

[pmg1254]

Glitcher

[kevinchou0912]

why does a zealot suggest for more zerg tricks?

[CaptainObvious0000]

@kevinchou0912

IT'S A TRAP !

[bob52496]

With the new patch you lose like 25% of your min when you cancel though.

[KrzyUnit]

I absolutely love this video. Heck ALL of your zerg trick strat videos are amazing. Much appreciated for these tricks and DEFINITELY will try them out. Cheers.

[chimerasta]

hahahaha you are not a very good player are you? dude this is the extractor trick. You cannot take all your drones of the minerals in a real game spawn SCrawlers cancel them and send your drones to mine again this is absurd...........and when i see the comments seems there are a lot of noobs out there hahahah poor guys

[Landonii]

@chimerasta This is a tip and tricks video teaching about stuff FOR NOOBS. Dumbass, pay more attention.

[MrBangJung]

@chimerasta ... its late game retard, by that time zerg should have atleast 4-5 expansions running and a massive stockpile of mins. although its rare pros use this tactic aswell.

[Anodyne123123]

@chimerasta seen this on some of the zerg channels on team liquid quite frequently used to get an extra 14 supply or so, but yea...not sure if it was psy or destiny ^^

[popbobtai]

300 drones vs 200 probes vs 200 scvs

[Luvrub1]

just goes to show that zerg is OP

[darthspeaks]

That rocks!

[2whoeraempire]

is that legal?? i doubt u can do that in SC2 Battlenet??

[YesIDidYourMom]

@2whoeraempire It is in fact legal, it's not that efficient thought because you lose around 25% when you cancel, a building, you only gain back 75% of your resources. So if you build 10 100-mineral spine crawlers, 25% of 100 is 25, multiplied by 10 is 250, so you lose 250 minerals for 10 supply.

[darthspeaks]

@YesIDidYourMom When you have 3000 mins banked up, 250 mins for 10 supply is well worth it. Every Zerg player should do this with maxed armies.

[2whoeraempire]

@YesIDidYourMom Oh okay, because i tried to do that but i guess i was slow to cancel the spine crawlers hahaha but okay, i'll go back and try that against some new players

[superpantman]

Evo chambers are more cost effective but spore crawlers or whatever they're called can actually be helpful for defence so if there are more noob players watching this video (such as myself) then if they time it wrong and let the crawlers hatch then its not the end of the world, you can always move them where you want them or something.

[proskater63]

wow man thats amazing

[SuperFrenchChicken]

This is too cool 4 me

[childrenofbodomfan74]

is this allowed in competitive play?

[KaiItza]

@childrenofbodomfan74 it isn't hacking so why not?

[childrenofbodomfan74]

@KaiItza well the crouchbug in counterstrike wasn't a hack either an yet it was still forbidden in most leagues...

[KaiItza]

@childrenofbodomfan74 I don't see this as a bug though. Also won't give you that extra edge you need. Stuff only should be banned if it's gamebreaking.

[KaiItza]

@childrenofbodomfan74 I don't see this as a bug though. Also won't give you that extra edge you need. Stuff only should be banned if it's gamebreaking.

[zaihtaMHS]

@childrenofbodomfan74 it is indeed allowed in CS, but not with scripts/mousewheel :)

[DocHoliday007]

Evo chambers cost less, which means the cancel doesnt cost as much when you cancel.

[Linkfanoftheyear]

why not just do a 300 food push? that works just as well and doesnt kill your income.

[CforCheng]

that costs a lot

[2Fast2Freeze]

Very cool.

[Nightmare732]

wow I cant believe i never thought of this! Thanks!!!!

[MsHojat]

wasting 25 minerals plus a bunch of lost mining time (probably another 10-20 minerals) per 1 supply you want to exceed. It also assumes you have and/or want drones. This trick will not let you exceed 200 army supply, only 200 supply including workers. The biggest use of this trick (which is if you wanted to go all-in) would be rather useless compared to just killing-off your drones.

[WFgrayflare]

Are all resources from canceling a zerg building before completion refunded? Or just a percent?

[TheTron56]

@WFgrayflare I believe it's 75% but it's still a bit of a waste of resources but can definitely be worth it. 

[TheVoices297]

@TheTron56 no it isn't cause now you have stopped your income and took time to set this up which is time at that point in the game that you don't have since the enemy will be pushing as well assuming they are gold+

[MatthewNoPants1atoll]

Oh. My. God. I am so happy to be a zerg player

[YourAppleTechHelp]

Wouldn't it be better with Evolution Chambers since they are cheaper? :S

[chattyw87]

@YourAppleTechHelp its even cheaper to build extractors

[azzuritea]

@chattyw87 @YourAppleTechHelp Evolution chambers take too much space to build many of them, extractors are most of the time not an option in the lategame, because all of them will most likely already occupied.

[lxMaddiganxl]

thank you for the video... never thought of this tactic

[WyrdCast]

Epic spine cancel. Zergs are loving this now.

[LegendStormcrow]

Already knew this trick but its with geyser. Much cheaper and useful early game. Helps make up for the fact hatches don't give as much supply as other races ccs and nexus.

[lamer48625]

isnt that cheating? ;I

[peoplearemessedup]

also you can use gas gysers!

[bddblade]

Nice!! :D

[Alesandros356]

that was sweet! hope it still works

[jaredglasgow3]

the 5 dislikes r toss and terran that raged when this happend to them

[rendros88]

@jaredglasgow3 are you sure?

[BoxcarGerry]

epic



[abusedbunny]

HD was just talking about this the other day

[icomposeeflats]

Theres a few issues with using this trick (assume 24 spines):

1) You need to pull off 24 drones from mining for ~30 game seconds (~400mins) PLUS 25% of the spines' cost (600 minerals).

2) You need enough money in the bank to create the spines (2400mins) plus the units (1200/1200 for mutas, 900/300 for roaches, etc).

3) You're spending ~25 game seconds making spines/units/cancel/send drones back to mine when you could be microing

If you can pull this off, chances are you've already won handily

[kiopas4]

@icomposeeflats hmmm spore is better, you lose less resources and in point of game then you have maxed army, your opponent is camping, you have like 6 bases over 7k mins and 5k gas i think its not bad to do that xD

[ryan98099]

@icomposeeflats lol noob

[ThisNameIsBanned]

@icomposeeflats The trick is more meaningfull right now ; but you should build Evo Chambers which are cheap enough and do it just in time to morph units and cancel right away.

With praxis you can easily pull out a Army of 260 Supply ; and keep your drones (which you can actual use to go All-In aswell, just for extra fodder).

Obvisious its a late-late game thing ; but can be quite usefull for sure and surprise an opponent with a much larger army than he expected.

[jeirda5]

@icomposeeflats Except that if your playing against an opponent in a massive macro game and your both building up your perfect unit composition for one massive battle. Its uncommon but not unknown, I've seen enough matches where this happened that its worth knowing this trick, even if your not going to use it in every game.

[MrSpartanczar]

@icomposeeflats ive seen it used in pro games, where the guy pulled it off. but ended up losing 10 minutes alter

[alexandertrefz]

@icomposeeflats if you are any good, you need like 5 seconds for this MAX. having the money is not the problem in a 200 vs 200 battle, since you will play positional games quite a while before a real fight will happen.

[TheKurosinshi]

That would be the best defense to own any infantry rush,or push.

Death field of Spine crawlers :D

[Treembea]

And now Blizz will fix this since someone made a video on it.

[xphre401]

@Treembea this has been around for ages and it's not going anywhere, blizz knows about it

[Treembea]

@xphre401 Eh, never know

[pedobearishot]

To bad people wont have over 10k minerals in the bank in a real game and you would be sacraficing %25 and you cant just do that in a leauge game. noobie

[kiopas4]

@pedobearishot i'm top 8 in masters and think its good idea, nobie

[pedobearishot]

@kiopas4 im top 29 masters in root destinys div if u wan vs me give me ur stuff and lets c u pull this off and win

[kiopas4]

@pedobearishot ok



[KatideChaos]

A good player wouldn't let those resources jsut stockpile like that... That's like a bronze league strat right there. Zerg is built upon constantly trading armies and rebuilding faster to get the win...

[SC2ish]

You can use the drones to fight after as well :D

[123iplaywow]

overpowered!



[Babjengi]

Has anyone pointed out the grammatical error in the title? It should be "than" not "then."

[bygone44]

finally a sc2 video

[guyonwabbit]

should use evo chambers instead of crawlers

[bygone44]

@guyonwabbit why..it costs the same and is bigger so u can't build as many

[guyonwabbit]

@bygone44 they are 75

[philkrautter]

@guyonwabbit Its true they do cost less.. but what map has an open enough area to lay down like 30 evo chambers in the time it takes for 1 to build so u can still cancel it??... spines are more space efficient.

[bygone44]

@guyonwabbit yup so are spore crawlers

[Ardentzero]

@guyonwabbit You shouldn't use evo's because they take up a lot of space and you won't be able to make them as easily as a small building like a spine/spore crawler.

[A4moondoggy]

nothing new here

[Owner951]

ZOMG this was awesome! I hope that i'm never going to meet a player that does this :D

[DaftSebPunk]

MonDragon used it against ToD, pretty sick

[eviloatmeal]

I think if you're sitting at twenty five thousand mins you can afford to just let the spines finish. ;) But on a serious note, I wouldn't mind seeing you use this on ladder, because it seems highly situational since the "300 food push" is in most cases a lot easier and quicker than this to pull off.

[bluefinix]

Thats a good trick if u get in a situation of late game but i prefer to attack and replace my army as i am attacking and try to micro . u dont need so much units and get blasted by tanks or colossi. if u need 2-3 ultras or broodlords extra u can free up supply but better build evos which r cheaper. BUT u all forget the best solution if u have a lot of money then banelings banelings banelings ooooo......

[TheMeta88]

gaurantee zerg is gonna get nerfed or something now.

[1337Wunderbaum]

This vid is bad if bad means good and good means bad but bad means awsome!

[raja1057]

some zerg pro players do this kinda trick

[gunart84]

I never thought of this before, LOL. Tks.

[killking27]

i tryd this once with ultra's >:D

[Calaveranzo]

lol

[tHaH4x0r]

why not keep the spinecrawlers and use those to do extra damage against the enemy???

[Ghostchanter]

@tHaH4x0r because then u are still supply capped :P

[guyonwabbit]

@tHaH4x0r becux u need drones for income herp derp

[thisscreensucks]

@guyonwabbit

late game, with tons of money, bigger army>income

[guyonwabbit]

@thisscreensucks zerg can spend 4k minerals and gas in 10 seconds

[tHaH4x0r]

@guyonwabbit

herp derp you dont need extra income when you have 24648 minerals...

[guyonwabbit]

@tHaH4x0r u also dont need crawlers when ur opponent is dead

[tHaH4x0r]

@guyonwabbit

yeah but he isnt dead if your still producting minerals and units

[guyonwabbit]

@tHaH4x0r u can still play once ur opponent is dead

[bood3e]

yeah but you sacriface like  2k minerals on cancellign 50 spines

[Ra3nMaN]

I like this dude, He sounds like he's awesome IRL. No sarcasm

[rowrow5987]

Why not build some hatcheries?

[korpiz]

@rowrow5987 for what? 200 is max in the game. Its doenst matter how many hatcheries or overlords you have.

[rowrow5987]

@korpiz More production?

[korpiz]

@rowrow5987 but you cant produce more, since 200 is max supply. This is however a very situational "trick", not new either.

[rowrow5987]

@korpiz I'm just tossing out ideas, I have no life, why do you think I watch these videos?

[dessan18]

Everyone including your enemies hehe

[4o4o4o]

Or you can play the normal way zerg needs to play and be agresive - > not need to even go close to cap , but also not alow your enemy to macro up and get caped himself.In mid and late game you can get caped ,but dont see how you can have so much recourses to build 20 spines (wich actualy cost you to cancle then , but you also puting all the minerals to use and not somewhere else) and have the posability couse noone is gona let you do such shinanigins...only scenario would be a 4v4 with 2man left

[ukstubbs]

@4o4o4o someones obviuosly all or nothing if they have never had a 30 minute game

[4o4o4o]

@ukstubbs how is this related to what Ive said ? And tbh you cant do this tactic in a 30 min game ...oh wait ,I gues the other player can be your granny and people have bad macro so they can afford to build that many spines , never mind then.And actualy there are many examples or high skilled not all in games that are less than 30 mins.

[ukstubbs]

@4o4o4o have you ever seen spanishwa play nearly everygame he uses this trick and also cancel doesnt cost mate pls get some game knowledge and get out of bronze

[Notoria666]

@ukstubbs It costs 25% of the original price you paid for it, so you only get 75% back. Now you please get some game knowledge before you try walking in here like a pro thinking you know it all because you watch Spanishiwa's stream.

[ltsjack]

@4o4o4o You're retarded, please shut up.

[kp2nator]

so monotone lol



[Tao209FTW]

it should also be spores since they're less

[11hellboy]

@Tao209FTW He actually says: When you have too many resources, that suggests it doesn't matter :P

[Tao209FTW]

Yeah I've been doing that for a while, ever since Sheth did it on MrBitters ZvZ show :D