Axel roller rink & Tony Lavorne on Harlem ave, Grand Illusions all ages club on Grand also Venus in 1983. New we were getting it all from gay Warehouse, deeper in the city. A few years later we were watching the growth of Industrial at Medusas with samples and heavy metal, and you could dance to it. The end of House saw Alpha Team mixing speed racer theme and unfortunately, DJ Jumpin jullian perez stuff catching on. Loosing WBMX-BlackMusicExperience and HOT MIXES made any tapes big $ at store.
While searching the answer to this question I find myself thinking if we have to categorize all these terms so much, it's an opinion. Acoustic and electronic? Thats a fact I think. And I was really putting effort on finding out!
@56dlp Ten Percent is definitely not a house track. Whether or not Jesse Saunders - On and On was the first house track on Vinyl is debatable. One thing is fur sure it is NOT FREESTYLE.
@acortes7771 Let me correct that for your information the Roland TR-707 sound, also the TR-808, and TR-606 base line loop defined early House music. Inspired obviously by the extended disco songs of the 1970's.
@djmike10 yea, the drum machine used in this song is the roland tr808, wich was mainly used by electro freestyle acts! even the beat is a syncopated breakbeat which, again, was used by electro freestyle acts, not regular 4/4 beat like house =D i guess Jesse Saunders didn't knew about all this shit, he only wanted to make music, and because everything in the underground chicago discos was house, he was making house too!
@akatosh1001 Dude, you r getting way too technical. Chicago House (original House) is a basic 4/4 Drum Machine beat with very minimal production on it. It's basic dance grooves. A catchy bassline, some repitious vocals, chants whatever. Not freaking Donna Summer like some have said. Just a basic LOUD BASS BEAT WITH BASSLINE smacking dancers in the freaking face all night loooooong!!!!! Stop talking about it and go dance to it!!! peace y'all.
it sounds more the techno that was came out a couple of years earlier in Detroit. there are several 1981 disco tracks that were laid on vinyl that were also condidered house tracks. but this one seems like the truest one of all.
No, this is NOT the first house record made, Jesse was trying to make Italo and stuff like Baker, Benitez and Robie were making in New York, the first HOUSE RECORD is "Funkin with the Drums" by Farley "Funkin" Keith.
@DJBlackAdam Wrong! I can name several records that came out before Funkin with the Drums(don't get me wrong it has some slamming tracks!) but i think even if you ask Farley himself he'll tell you that your incorrect.
It is a very long stretch to call this house. Chicago House, nooooh!
First it contains the Roland TR-808 drum machine with a very weak kick.
Secondly, the bass line is repetetive, but too static with the same 1/8 notes. Not the ones with the funkier feeling. As some has pointed out that one sounds more like an Italo Disco Bassline.
Third, and this is most important, large parts of the song there is the typical Breakbeats with the 808-claps that sounds very much like the early electro/freest
@MrModulator First. Chicago House YESSS. Jesse Saunders layed this groove down. It is so damn basic when you listen to it. There are no fancy ass studio magic tricks going on here. This is what House sounded like in the very beginning. The youngbloods out there who say "but I don't hear the standard bass kick followed by the hi hat" House eventually evolved to that more polished boom-chi sound. Listen I bought this freakin' record when it came out. I payed $3.99 at Loop Records Chicago. I know.
@MrModulator You are very un informed mrmodulater. He is correct. This is the first HOUSE record. There were many many goods tracks before this time. The best way to refer to these earlier recordings in pop culture is PROTO-HOUSE. The genre fist drew elements (THIS IS HINDSIGHT) from disco, rare grooves, funk, boogie, electro, ect. The instrumentation became more electronic getting away from the string pieces of disco at first. The house you are refering to began a couple yrs. later.
@MrModulator Sometimes we refer to a track and say its electro or its techno. When we go back to the stylistic origins it was way more experimental. It wasnt until a coulple yrs. later that we can look back and say ok that is HOUSE!
@MrModulator Just because it uses an 808 means nothing. The 909 didn't even exist when this was made. I believe Jessie Saunders was the first to get a 909 when they came out too (somebody confirm)? Look up the documentary Pump up the Volume for more history. Not all of the history, but the important bits are in there.
All the research I have done pretty much says this: This is the first House song that got on vinyl. There are other earlier House songs that did NOT make vinyl at the time. The primary example would be Your Love, made on cassette. However, this song was really important as it told all the wanna be producers at the time, that they could make House too. Also, mind you, it was called House music because it was played at the "Wharehouse" venue. It wasn't a genre at the time.
So to those who say there's songs that were House before these songs. It's true in regards to "the House feel and style". Which yes, if you really want to go back and trace roots, you would follow the line backwards from Disco, to Funk, to Soul/Jazz. However, strictly speaking as what WAS played at the Wharehouse, these were the original homebrew "House" songs. It was these songs that made it to Europe and then boomed into what we have now.
If you ask me personally, House styled dance music predominantly started with Disco first. which pre-dates Italo and everything else. Think about it. The scene, the culture, the music, the drugs. This wasn't just another sub set of music, it was something that actually swept across the board and took everyone for a ride. As for the first "techno"/edm song... there really isn't an answer because no one will agree on the definition of that.
I think the Eddy Grant track, which was made seven years before this, is a better claim to the beginning of house, and also possibly techno and trance.
this is definitely house, but then come to think of it - there's other songs that sound like this from earlier, so my deduction is that there never was the 1st house record - it originated organically between 70s disco and the chicago sound of the 80s - thank god house music was made - it truly is outstanding - thank you jesse saunders and MAYBE depeche mode and the others - you are all worthy
this is so not freestyle. it's house. techno was even sounding like this at the time. but freestyle is on a breakbeat and not a 4/4 as this track is. and at the time, house dj's were always mixing it up with freestyle.
after all this time this is still curiously exciting. still regarding the "is it the first house track" debate ( i assume you mean chicago house) my recollection of the first track i ever heard identified specifically as 'house' was jm silk's 'music is the key' circa 1982
@luckystrke yeah this is not all that musical, it's just that it's a huge piece of music history I think. Like comparing today's tight Linkin Park or Metallica to the original rock of Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly etc.
Never heard before, but it sounds really like European minimal electro stuff from the early 80s (except the handclaps). Grauzone, Liaisons Dangereuses, Snowy Red or Front 242...
miamiwax, thanks for your input man! Knight Action is not the best example you could have given because if your trying to say they were Italo I would def not agree. That was absolutely original early Chicago House. The members of Knight Action were responsible for many early House classics - check it at Discogs. Good site for research. Thanks again.
@djisfan no way man!!! i don't know how familiar with italo stuff you are but i DEFINITELY think stuff like r trax and d rail is SUPREMELY influenced by italo. you should check out italo tracks like stopp "i'm hungry" to see what i mean. stopp's track was HUGE with ron hardy as were sooo many other italo classics. i guess we can agree to disagree but i think italo was the prime influence on early house.
I don't disagree with you that Italo was a huge influence on House. But are you saying that Knight Action was Italo? By the way I am very familiar with Italo disco. I was buying that stuff when Importes Etc. store was only a small shack in a parking garage on Plymouth Ct. I posted the only video of Stopp I'm Hungry.
@djisfan Yeah Importes Etc. was always one of my weekly stops, id always hit it and Loop records, man i was just a kid back then. I think about it often, great memories!
Perhaps House style started with the TR-808. Maybe some italio disco influence more than state side pop disco of the past, that didn't embrace the electronic sound that often.
Whoever said Burnin Up by Imagination as 1st house track has a point. It was from 81/82 and we're talking the remix so probably 82. When i 1st heard it a year or so ago I was shocked it's literally a blueprint not just for the 86/87 sound but for the euro piano monsters of 88-90. Uncannily modern sounding.
The person above whos going on about Imaginations big hits is completely missing the point as were not talking about them...
House music, at least the vibe of it, had already existed in NYC for a number of years dating back to the days of disco. Ny records similar to Jesse Saunders even existed before 1984..(funky soul makossa..rap version, for instance, very similar vibe, was fairly big in the days of the post disco sucks movement). But of course, in NY this underground sound.. it wasn't called house...Chicago coined that term..and in my opinion..House music..that vibe..that feeling..all peaked in ChiTown..
The term House music is derived from Chicago club The Warehouse. Records spun by Frankie Knuckles were known as 'house' records cuz they were records played at The Warehouse. It was used to describe anything with a deep underground feel to it from NY or elsewhere. Later, Chicago labels like Trax and DJ International made records with a style similar to these.
What about "Single Girl" by Knight Action, it was also released in 84. Not sure of the exact release date, but i could ask my buddy Duane since he's the guy who made the track. Does it warrant consideration?
Yes! It definitely is in the running. I know many people don't care or see the revelance but I do. Thanks for your input. Give my respect to your friend. I always loved that song.
@djisfan Some of the other tracks he's done are "Jump Trax", "D Rail- R-Trax, "Cut By A Laser" and many others! " Like This" by Chip E was done in his parents basement studio, Duane has done so many killer house tracks, if you'd like to check out alot of what he's done type his name in the youtube search box and enjoy!
I completely disagree with this, the first HOUSE tune I heard was 'Imagination - I'm burning up' circa 1980.. Have a look for it. There is a slight disco element, int here too.. But it is HOUSE...
Imagination is a good band. I love "Just an Illusion" and "Flashback" by them. But their music is not House. Remember in its basic earliest state House was a drum machine, some obscure vocals, maybe a sampler. Very basic Dj made stuff. Not Donna Summer's "I Feel Love" like someone said. To get my point see music by Chip E, Adonis and Farley is a great example. Yes it got its influence from Disco but that's where the connection stops.
House music in my opinion was very influenced by disco . All the early house pioneers were making disco based records with limited budgets . Take away the orchestras and electric guitars , the brass and the backing singers and you have the house sound , samples , a drum machine and vocals . low budget production disco and funk.hope this makes sense.
I would have to agree, I feel Giorgio Moroder with Donna Summer in the late 70's with I feel love - took the disco vibe and pointed it in another direction to what later became House
dude.. i was lucky enough to see jesse saunders play live at a club. not many ppl came to see him, which sucked. but hey! i got to meet him. he even spinned on my bf's CDJs :D
No one never mention that between the end of the Disco Era in 1979 and between and 1981 there was a short lived Punk Out Hour on WVON radio station show hosted by DJ Herb Kent. Who introduced house music to chicago main stream. It aired and played the first house music on the radio. Followed by WKKC. Kraftwerk, Martin Circus and Blondie and Devo were some of the first artist to hit the air waves. These were the first aired mixes that evolved into HOUSE (1981 Julian HS)
def remember Herb Kent busting out some classic cuts especially Martin Circus! I remember the call letters to be WXFM. The next day we ran into Loop Records and copped the jams he played. He introduced us to some pretty fresh music.
I was going to HOUSE music clubs(Prince Street Loft)1980...this cant be first...plus there were many artists who are part of the genre but not classified as house....
This was the third trax put out be Saunders but the first with vocals. As far as music made for and played in House this one of the first from Chicago. Songs like Walk the Night and Disco Circus weren't made in Chicago but they are House. What people listen today in Europe you can call house but unless it 's played in Chicago it ain't house you wouldn't go to Jamica and play some No Doubt and call it Reggae. House started in Chicago, House is Chicago.
dude, relax, mr dj, you're not what you play. My point is noone ever mentions New Order, Cabaret Voltaire, and others who were professional sounding at the time as the origins of house music. My point is that this is not any closer to the modern form than they were. By the way, hip hop today is a pile of garbage and so is modern rock and pop. Today's snotrags need to pose and bitch less, and listen and research more.
Thanks to everyone for their opinions and views. My opinion and memory of what House is and how it started differs from others. House music was created by Dj's who were influenced by a wide variety of music. Kraftwerk I believe had a huge part. Dj's were making these very basic beat tracks and slowly introduced their taped sounds at the gigs to layer other tracks over them. I can go on and on (sorry for the pun) I gotta go to work now but I will continue my thoughts later. Peace
Kraftwerk would have been a bigger influence to mr atkins & co making the detroit sound , but hey house music up the middle if you move left or right you get techno & acid , it,s all good from here.
I've read the classifications, but frankly this doesnt sound any more house to me than new order, who were far better at the time. I know New Order isn't like the house of today, but neither is this...
Why would it sound "like the house of today" when it's now about 25 years later?
So is the rock music of today not rock because it doesn't sound like it did 25 years ago, what about Hip-Hop?
By the way this sounds like house to me.... the 4/4 beat, the open hi-hat on the 8th notes, the 120bpm tempo, the skipping snares on the 16th notes, the bass line, the electronic sounds.
House music is basically a modern electronic form of Disco and you're a moron!
Also, the sound that is popular right now is the European sound. That's what years of evolution here did to the music. After the European evolution of house music, it suddenly became popular in the rest of the world, including the USA.
NOT this sound you hear in this video, where nobody in the world gave 2 shits about.
This is also the reason why you are so proud of "the beginning of house". It's a little childish to act like you are responsible for anything in the house scene today, lol.
Its tough trying to figure out what was the first rock, disco, rap, house (song) etc...Saying jesse saunders was the first is not a bad guess but how do we categorize what house house music is. To me set it off by strafe is the first recognized house song to ever come out but alot of people labeled it as Garage (paradise) which wouldnt be wrong either. I think alot of artist hold this same controversy
Alot of people will disagree with me and thats the fun part reading everyones input on the subject. I grew up on house and it seems all the main cities had their own style. Chicago where it started supposedly, new york with that garage style house( which is why i threw strafe in there), detroit with their fast pace version, jersey and england. My interpretation of what house music was is differs from others!!
The first copies were on LP, yellow lable. The initial drum are a take from Let No Man Put Usander and the concept of the song is from a Bootleg title On & On.
I got the song from Vince Lawrance himself prior to the wax hitting the stores in Chicago.
I consder It's House by Chip E as the first House record because 1, it was original 2,the title 3, ill include a video resposne.
what's up man? First thanks for taking the time to comment on this. Chip E's stuff is incredible and I wish I still had em all. I'm sure there were tunes laying around on tapes at home or in studios before this came out. "It's House" came out in 1985 while this tune "On & On" released in 1984. So my point pretty much is this was the first House released on vinyl. Peace.
This song wasn't anywhere near close to being the first or one of the best house cuts of the early 80's. I know Jesse & Vince & can remember when Jesse spun in the basement of a many houses on the South Side of Chgo & he will tell you that this cut actually did not get tat much fanfare. And Vince...by time he did become acknowledged i the genre, thanks to fat boy Farley & others, it had become to commercial & lost alot of it's luster & soul. Check disco DAI or any mix tape from Frankie on Adams.
hey what's up? thanks for checking it out and for your comments. Now, this is the first "House" tune put on vinyl. I did not say it was the best. In fact the main reason I picked it up was the 117bpm track on side 2. It's a copycat of the "Mix Your Own Stars" beat track - yum!! Peace to you bro!
Ugh, are we really still this pedantic in our thinking about music? Ideas (musical ideas included) DON'T exist in a vacuum, they get passed around and evolve over time. While you might be able to say that after about 1985 or 1986, house was a genre in it's own right, it didn't just pop into existence with one record. And yes, the kids in the UK DID take it and make it their own.
wow, I had to look up pedantic. Nice. I'm not a nut about what's the absolute in everything, but it is fun to discuss it. You love music and records as I do then you enjoy everything about it. Even showing off my geeky collection. The birthplace House is Chicago. And yes that's important. To all who grew up with it and used it in their style. You should know where the roots are. I never rant like that, I need a nap now.
Yes house is a conglomeration. This may have been the first cut named behind "House" music. But .. "I Feel Love" by Donna Summer was house before it was called House. That song was not disco it was Very much a prototype for house and techno music.
Not my taste, but i can fully appreciate that none of the rave scene in England would have happened if it wasn't for tunes like this. We just took this and made it our own. 5*
You made this your own???Really,,, you took from American house music and made money from it thats all you did. Yes we love the way Uk loved our music but no ,it was our own before it was yours......
I didn't say it was ours first... We took House music and made it evolve into Acid House, then what is now known as Old Skool Hardcore, then onto Jungle, then what the rave scene is all about now Drum n Bass. It all evolved from Chicago house and Detroit Techno. House is still there obviously but we put our own spin on it. The rave scene in Britain in constantly evolving with new styles. I'm not wrong look it up.
Acid House is from the Music Box and Ron Hardy from the winter spring of "86".
What you don't understand is that what was coming out of Chicago in the mid 80's was watered down version of House for export. real underground House never left the city.
I agree it was a gradual transition from Disco & Dance. There were traks out in 82-83 that sound like "early House". I gues u cld say that Jesse's release of On&On really startd the flow of traks that were to follow. Early Trax & DJ Int. releases (Jungle Wonz, Marshall Jefferson, Sterling Void, etc) definitely had a different sound from what had happened before. And, anyway, I'm still real overwhelmd coz I just receivd a wonderful personal email from the man himself ~ Jesse. Means so much.
And just so you know, and you won't be completely misinformed, "On and On" by Jesse Saunders was released in 1984. The classic "House" sound was already established WAY before 1984, with songs such as "Can't Play Around" by Lace from 1982, and "Can't Fake the Feeling" by Geraldine Hunt from 1980. 1984 was when House was already in its prime, having been establish for several years already.
Hmmm. Well.... I kno "Can't Fake..." may have been part of the Warehouse gay disco thing but it really is distinctly Disco. (I bought it & remember dancin to it !). The sound of "House" that we came to know really did stem gradually from later trax in 82 & 83. And I would say that probably 86 was it's prime... but hey ! let's not argue over a couple of years eh? Ha ! Let's just keep luvvin it, my friend. xx
oh no, no argument here! I TOO actually think house was truly in its prime in 86 as well.... I think 86 and 87 were the best years in house..... a lot of the greatest garage music was released in 86, like "Lets get Brutal" (nitro), "Celebrate" (subject), "I'll take You On" and "Hungry for your love" (both by hanson & davis)...... the list just goes on. "Cant fake the feeling" was one of those records that was released in one point in time (1980), then revived in a later point in time (84-85).
there is no such thing as a "first" house record. "House" music was a gradual creation, blending out of disco, into breakdance beats, and fused with soul/r&b vocals. House music didn't just start out of nowhere as "house".... so a "first" record could never exist.
First 500 were with black labels and were obviously all sold quite locally in Chicago. If u can find one on Discogs, be prepared to pay about $300 (£200). The subsequent pressings with a white label will be more in the region of £50 - £100.
Jamie Principle's were the first house songs, but this was put on vinyl first. There's a lot of songs in the comments that predated house, that resemble house. But I would say Loose Joints' "Is It All Over My Face" is more closer to house than all of them though.
That's for the true heads. After Rock Lobster but before Jamie Principle. I used to mix it up at Mendel and at our community center. Those were the days.
It falls into a phase after disco where people were experimenting with the disco sound to change it but keep some key elements. Walk the night was mixed into other cuts during the beat break after house got popular because of the lyrics. Played for shock value among straight people and for the amusement of the gay crowd.
Here's my two cents back in 82/83 the first song I remember that seemed like house was a joint called "move out" of course i'm not talking about the classic disco joints which were the foundations for chi-town house but move out came out and then all the classic house joints followed.
I remember the transistion that you're talking about between disco and house. "Move out, Bostitch, White Horse, Dun da da, AEIOU, Walk the Night" those are considered electronic and not house but they had that feel and laid the basis.
According to most old school house heads here in Chicago, the first house track ever made was "its house" by Chip E....but who really knows though!?!?!
I think you mean Skatt Bros, Walk the Night, and i have heard this arguement before. The style is no where near house, even the remix. Its awful. The nearest they get to early house is the ridiculous " moustache " craze that swept the gay population at the time...Awful awful awful tune, which ever gendre..
yes i aree Walk the night is not a great tune , but its a house style drum beat with electro samples and a vocal . and like i said Ron hardy plus larry levan and knuckles all played it , its that in 1979 there was no House music term as such
to be fair i wouldn't like to say what the first ever house track was but unless there is another track earlier using a 303 bass synthesizer and incorpirating other fundimental aspects i think this is deffinatly up there as a possibility. If any1 knows of anything earlier please leave a list of track name and date i'm on a mission now ha ha
House DEFINITELY followed disco. There was no "HOUSE MUSIC", before the term was coined by visitors to the Warehouse Nightclub in Chicago. The early form of mixing was dubbed "House." It wasn't until around 1983 that house had its first song identified as house, and created originally. That song was what came to be known as Your Love, by Jamie Principle. This (On and ON) is DEFINITELY the first song recorded as HOUSE on a Chicago label, the city of origin for House music.
Yes you are correct sir!! Disco was Sylvester, Martin Circus, Sing,Sing. think Your Love may have debuted at the Plant in 83. I can't remember if I had graduated already when this came out. (Kenwood 83)This cut is old as dirt though but "Your Love" set it all off. I also remember losin it at Sauer's the first time I heard "Bad Boy". Remember the Underground on Lower Wacker/Michigan? That was the loudest shit I ever heard in my life.
its arguable house music developed e.g on influence being late disco - see 'just like a door knob' by Touché tho the version on ytube is played much too slowly :D
This is the first house RECORD.. literally as in it was the first house track ever put on Vinyl (which is also commonly referred to as a record) and sold to the public.. there were many house tracks made before this but they were distributed on tape.
This is the third house trax made and the first one made for radio.Jesse put out a group of beat tracks that form the base beat for this song and he took a beat and laid sound efxs over for the second trax. the beats where realesed in "83" the second beats wheren't.
It's the same pace as Mary's. It one dude and "OOh's" the key. This must sound bizarre but play the Mary track and she's using the ooh as her first vocal on the track. Grew up in CT listening to college radio (exposed to much underground). I recall a college DJ claim the guy was from Middletown or Waterbury CT, can't confirm. I have been looking for this song for years. Listen to Mary's again before the heavy bass kicks in (10 secs) it's his version then they modernize it.
No god status just yet. I not asking about the great Issac Hayes tune, I'm asking about the one from the eighties where the guy starts with the ooh's (about six of them) and then "when were back in grade school you wanted to be it"...and adds that ooh thing throughout the song. Mary's version is closer to his than Issac's! Come on man your rep is on the line....
Thanks man. Actually I'm surprised/shocked that you knew that. Been searching forever, your pretty thorough. Here's a puzzler...Mary J samples a tune/melody on her "I love You" track but gives the poor guy no credit. She uses his piano melody no doubt. I remember the song, it exists. She even bites the guys "OOH". If I remember he bites the lyrics from a Jackson Five song. If you know that one your a 80's god!
HOUSE music is universal!!born in Chicago.On & On was the 1rst and from that came
every house hit possible.It just went on and on...
Here in Chicago,we use house terms to communicate about our music.it may not be correct,but we understand eachother.Its a Chicago thing!!
djhouse1200 2 months ago
@djhouse1200 Very well put brother!!
djisfan 2 months ago
Axel roller rink & Tony Lavorne on Harlem ave, Grand Illusions all ages club on Grand also Venus in 1983. New we were getting it all from gay Warehouse, deeper in the city. A few years later we were watching the growth of Industrial at Medusas with samples and heavy metal, and you could dance to it. The end of House saw Alpha Team mixing speed racer theme and unfortunately, DJ Jumpin jullian perez stuff catching on. Loosing WBMX-BlackMusicExperience and HOT MIXES made any tapes big $ at store.
CONCERTMANchicago 3 months ago
WOW...I haven't heard this 4 ages! I got a copy on a white label w black writing, but a House nut stole it from Me :-(
Hold on to that one Bro :-)
Can one still get this w/o using ITunes or emusic?
esacnitsuj1 6 months ago
At 5:30 sounds like Eric Prydz - Shadows! :O Definitely Eric must have had some influences from here!
GigaVibesRecords 8 months ago
THIS IS MY CUT MAN .LOVE THIS, THINK YOU FOR THE POST . CHICAGO IS THE PINNACLE OF HOUSE MUSIC.PEACE.
WilderelAchaiah 9 months ago 2
@WilderelAchaiah So glad u dig it! House!!!!!
djisfan 6 months ago
While searching the answer to this question I find myself thinking if we have to categorize all these terms so much, it's an opinion. Acoustic and electronic? Thats a fact I think. And I was really putting effort on finding out!
jimmyvanesch 9 months ago
@56dlp I Feel Love is Disco. Plain and simple. Jam!!
djisfan 10 months ago
wow....... house has come such a long way
fathemi 11 months ago
@fathemi No not really i'd say in many ways it has taken a step backwards!!!
housemanchi 5 months ago
If it's not the first. Still some good shit that I appreciate.
SIHELL 1 year ago
Not the first, look up ( FAST CARS by Z FACTOR ) Arranged By - Fred Riley , Vincent Lawrence in 1982
chicagoreactor1 1 year ago
@chicagoreactor1 Fast Cars is not even close to House. I think I'm going to have to make a video that just explains the House sound. No disrespect.
djisfan 10 months ago
@chicagoreactor1 I have Fast Cars on vinyl also. That sounds more like New Wave than anything.
djisfan 6 months ago
The bass line loop is what defines it as a HOUSE track.
acortes7771 1 year ago
@56dlp Ten Percent is definitely not a house track. Whether or not Jesse Saunders - On and On was the first house track on Vinyl is debatable. One thing is fur sure it is NOT FREESTYLE.
acortes7771 1 year ago
@acortes7771 Let me correct that for your information the Roland TR-707 sound, also the TR-808, and TR-606 base line loop defined early House music. Inspired obviously by the extended disco songs of the 1970's.
acortes7771 1 year ago
what kinda head shell and cartridge are you using here?
rx7pr1v3r 1 year ago
@rx7pr1v3r sorry I took so long to answer. I use Shure M44-7
djisfan 10 months ago
@djmike10 yea, the drum machine used in this song is the roland tr808, wich was mainly used by electro freestyle acts! even the beat is a syncopated breakbeat which, again, was used by electro freestyle acts, not regular 4/4 beat like house =D i guess Jesse Saunders didn't knew about all this shit, he only wanted to make music, and because everything in the underground chicago discos was house, he was making house too!
akatosh1001 1 year ago
@akatosh1001 Dude, you r getting way too technical. Chicago House (original House) is a basic 4/4 Drum Machine beat with very minimal production on it. It's basic dance grooves. A catchy bassline, some repitious vocals, chants whatever. Not freaking Donna Summer like some have said. Just a basic LOUD BASS BEAT WITH BASSLINE smacking dancers in the freaking face all night loooooong!!!!! Stop talking about it and go dance to it!!! peace y'all.
djisfan 10 months ago
Yes, this was the first house track to be pressed on vinyl! It is irreplaceable!
discjockeyfuture 1 year ago
@djmike10 Not even close to freestyle! What are you listening to!
housemanchi 1 year ago
it sounds more the techno that was came out a couple of years earlier in Detroit. there are several 1981 disco tracks that were laid on vinyl that were also condidered house tracks. but this one seems like the truest one of all.
dcboy555 1 year ago
No, this is NOT the first house record made, Jesse was trying to make Italo and stuff like Baker, Benitez and Robie were making in New York, the first HOUSE RECORD is "Funkin with the Drums" by Farley "Funkin" Keith.
DJBlackAdam 1 year ago
@DJBlackAdam Wrong! I can name several records that came out before Funkin with the Drums(don't get me wrong it has some slamming tracks!) but i think even if you ask Farley himself he'll tell you that your incorrect.
housemanchi 1 year ago
@housemanchi You are dead on right, thanks
djisfan 10 months ago
You can hear the Kraftwerk influence quite easily
SonofJaphet 1 year ago
what about Z Factor - I Like To Do It In Fast Cars from 1983!!!!!
blaxwax 1 year ago
I thought 'house' was a reference to the 'warehouse' club in NYC back when Frankie Knuckles was spinning
tylersmyler 1 year ago
afrika bambada
tylersmyler 1 year ago
like no joke my dad went to school and everything with saunders and he used to spin his stuff and do radio with him
skut9 1 year ago
Go to Deephouse page. Read the history of House.
djisfan 1 year ago
It is a very long stretch to call this house. Chicago House, nooooh!
First it contains the Roland TR-808 drum machine with a very weak kick.
Secondly, the bass line is repetetive, but too static with the same 1/8 notes. Not the ones with the funkier feeling. As some has pointed out that one sounds more like an Italo Disco Bassline.
Third, and this is most important, large parts of the song there is the typical Breakbeats with the 808-claps that sounds very much like the early electro/freest
MrModulator 1 year ago
@MrModulator First. Chicago House YESSS. Jesse Saunders layed this groove down. It is so damn basic when you listen to it. There are no fancy ass studio magic tricks going on here. This is what House sounded like in the very beginning. The youngbloods out there who say "but I don't hear the standard bass kick followed by the hi hat" House eventually evolved to that more polished boom-chi sound. Listen I bought this freakin' record when it came out. I payed $3.99 at Loop Records Chicago. I know.
djisfan 10 months ago 12
@MrModulator
sorry, you don't know what you're talking about.
asspop123 9 months ago
@MrModulator You are very un informed mrmodulater. He is correct. This is the first HOUSE record. There were many many goods tracks before this time. The best way to refer to these earlier recordings in pop culture is PROTO-HOUSE. The genre fist drew elements (THIS IS HINDSIGHT) from disco, rare grooves, funk, boogie, electro, ect. The instrumentation became more electronic getting away from the string pieces of disco at first. The house you are refering to began a couple yrs. later.
daftendz 7 months ago
@MrModulator Sometimes we refer to a track and say its electro or its techno. When we go back to the stylistic origins it was way more experimental. It wasnt until a coulple yrs. later that we can look back and say ok that is HOUSE!
daftendz 7 months ago
@MrModulator Who are you exactly, Mr. 'SRB's have nothing to do with V2's'?
Helsingfors 6 months ago
@MrModulator Just because it uses an 808 means nothing. The 909 didn't even exist when this was made. I believe Jessie Saunders was the first to get a 909 when they came out too (somebody confirm)? Look up the documentary Pump up the Volume for more history. Not all of the history, but the important bits are in there.
ahd2006 4 months ago
This was the first house song to go public out of Chicago!!
freakyckb 1 year ago
Comateens "Get Off My Case" (Dub mix) 1983 first House record z Steve Silk hurley copied it on his Jack Your Body x
Vasilouxxx 1 year ago
@djmike10
You...must...learn
laino83 1 year ago
All the research I have done pretty much says this: This is the first House song that got on vinyl. There are other earlier House songs that did NOT make vinyl at the time. The primary example would be Your Love, made on cassette. However, this song was really important as it told all the wanna be producers at the time, that they could make House too. Also, mind you, it was called House music because it was played at the "Wharehouse" venue. It wasn't a genre at the time.
DarkRagnarok8 1 year ago
So to those who say there's songs that were House before these songs. It's true in regards to "the House feel and style". Which yes, if you really want to go back and trace roots, you would follow the line backwards from Disco, to Funk, to Soul/Jazz. However, strictly speaking as what WAS played at the Wharehouse, these were the original homebrew "House" songs. It was these songs that made it to Europe and then boomed into what we have now.
DarkRagnarok8 1 year ago 6
If you ask me personally, House styled dance music predominantly started with Disco first. which pre-dates Italo and everything else. Think about it. The scene, the culture, the music, the drugs. This wasn't just another sub set of music, it was something that actually swept across the board and took everyone for a ride. As for the first "techno"/edm song... there really isn't an answer because no one will agree on the definition of that.
DarkRagnarok8 1 year ago
I think the Eddy Grant track, which was made seven years before this, is a better claim to the beginning of house, and also possibly techno and trance.
a147pro 1 year ago
@a147pro I imagne it was an insparation, House is a bit of evreything
fagAshLil1234 1 year ago
@a147pro Now I heard everything.
djisfan 10 months ago
this is definitely house, but then come to think of it - there's other songs that sound like this from earlier, so my deduction is that there never was the 1st house record - it originated organically between 70s disco and the chicago sound of the 80s - thank god house music was made - it truly is outstanding - thank you jesse saunders and MAYBE depeche mode and the others - you are all worthy
jezjonson 1 year ago
@djmike10 ......wow.
djisfan 1 year ago
this is so not freestyle. it's house. techno was even sounding like this at the time. but freestyle is on a breakbeat and not a 4/4 as this track is. and at the time, house dj's were always mixing it up with freestyle.
dcboy555 1 year ago
after all this time this is still curiously exciting. still regarding the "is it the first house track" debate ( i assume you mean chicago house) my recollection of the first track i ever heard identified specifically as 'house' was jm silk's 'music is the key' circa 1982
jona4x 1 year ago
@jona4x "Music Is The Key" was released in 1985. Great Real House jam!!!!
djisfan 1 year ago
@djisfan Yes that's true, it was the first release on dj international records!
housemanchi 1 year ago
I dunno. I think it's a crap ass song compared to either later house music, or other records coming out in 1984
luckystrke 1 year ago
@luckystrke yeah this is not all that musical, it's just that it's a huge piece of music history I think. Like comparing today's tight Linkin Park or Metallica to the original rock of Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly etc.
djisfan 10 months ago
Never heard before, but it sounds really like European minimal electro stuff from the early 80s (except the handclaps). Grauzone, Liaisons Dangereuses, Snowy Red or Front 242...
watch?v=_1xIgdKX-dY
daisaigai7 1 year ago
@daisaigai7 yeah.
djisfan 10 months ago
I think the first House/Techno/Trance record was
Grauzone - Film 2 (1981)
PedroAmor93 1 year ago
early house was very influenced by ITALO!!!!
i really think that the early chicago producers were trying to create their own version of italo music. look at this record and the knight action 12".
miamiwax 1 year ago
miamiwax, thanks for your input man! Knight Action is not the best example you could have given because if your trying to say they were Italo I would def not agree. That was absolutely original early Chicago House. The members of Knight Action were responsible for many early House classics - check it at Discogs. Good site for research. Thanks again.
djisfan 1 year ago
@djisfan no way man!!! i don't know how familiar with italo stuff you are but i DEFINITELY think stuff like r trax and d rail is SUPREMELY influenced by italo. you should check out italo tracks like stopp "i'm hungry" to see what i mean. stopp's track was HUGE with ron hardy as were sooo many other italo classics. i guess we can agree to disagree but i think italo was the prime influence on early house.
miamiwax 1 year ago
I don't disagree with you that Italo was a huge influence on House. But are you saying that Knight Action was Italo? By the way I am very familiar with Italo disco. I was buying that stuff when Importes Etc. store was only a small shack in a parking garage on Plymouth Ct. I posted the only video of Stopp I'm Hungry.
djisfan 1 year ago
@djisfan Yeah Importes Etc. was always one of my weekly stops, id always hit it and Loop records, man i was just a kid back then. I think about it often, great memories!
housemanchi 1 year ago
Perhaps House style started with the TR-808. Maybe some italio disco influence more than state side pop disco of the past, that didn't embrace the electronic sound that often.
lucasrohlf 2 years ago
The drum machine 4/4 bass tight and hitting hard is the heart of the house sound - even before keyboards/organ were added.
djisfan 1 year ago
Whoever said Burnin Up by Imagination as 1st house track has a point. It was from 81/82 and we're talking the remix so probably 82. When i 1st heard it a year or so ago I was shocked it's literally a blueprint not just for the 86/87 sound but for the euro piano monsters of 88-90. Uncannily modern sounding.
The person above whos going on about Imaginations big hits is completely missing the point as were not talking about them...
ancientraver19881989 2 years ago
you looked on the internet to see when how house music was born??get real and enjoy.get off the train!!!
jdoors0 2 years ago
House music, at least the vibe of it, had already existed in NYC for a number of years dating back to the days of disco. Ny records similar to Jesse Saunders even existed before 1984..(funky soul makossa..rap version, for instance, very similar vibe, was fairly big in the days of the post disco sucks movement). But of course, in NY this underground sound.. it wasn't called house...Chicago coined that term..and in my opinion..House music..that vibe..that feeling..all peaked in ChiTown..
DjJohnnyM68 2 years ago
The term House music is derived from Chicago club The Warehouse. Records spun by Frankie Knuckles were known as 'house' records cuz they were records played at The Warehouse. It was used to describe anything with a deep underground feel to it from NY or elsewhere. Later, Chicago labels like Trax and DJ International made records with a style similar to these.
DjJohnnyM68 2 years ago
What about "Single Girl" by Knight Action, it was also released in 84. Not sure of the exact release date, but i could ask my buddy Duane since he's the guy who made the track. Does it warrant consideration?
housemanchi 2 years ago
Yes! It definitely is in the running. I know many people don't care or see the revelance but I do. Thanks for your input. Give my respect to your friend. I always loved that song.
djisfan 2 years ago
@djisfan Some of the other tracks he's done are "Jump Trax", "D Rail- R-Trax, "Cut By A Laser" and many others! " Like This" by Chip E was done in his parents basement studio, Duane has done so many killer house tracks, if you'd like to check out alot of what he's done type his name in the youtube search box and enjoy!
housemanchi 2 years ago
Nice!!!!
House was everywhere around the world first. But it peaked it Chicago (the real stuff, house heads know what I mean).
All I'm gonna say is Frankie and Ron at the Box the Fall of '85.
Love
g1a1h1 2 years ago
I completely disagree with this, the first HOUSE tune I heard was 'Imagination - I'm burning up' circa 1980.. Have a look for it. There is a slight disco element, int here too.. But it is HOUSE...
Cyntax1972 2 years ago
Imagination is a good band. I love "Just an Illusion" and "Flashback" by them. But their music is not House. Remember in its basic earliest state House was a drum machine, some obscure vocals, maybe a sampler. Very basic Dj made stuff. Not Donna Summer's "I Feel Love" like someone said. To get my point see music by Chip E, Adonis and Farley is a great example. Yes it got its influence from Disco but that's where the connection stops.
djisfan 2 years ago
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1fabster 2 years ago
House music in my opinion was very influenced by disco . All the early house pioneers were making disco based records with limited budgets . Take away the orchestras and electric guitars , the brass and the backing singers and you have the house sound , samples , a drum machine and vocals . low budget production disco and funk.hope this makes sense.
1fabster 2 years ago
@1fabster if it weren't for disco there would be no house so yes you are right.
ANGELO13111 2 years ago
I would have to agree, I feel Giorgio Moroder with Donna Summer in the late 70's with I feel love - took the disco vibe and pointed it in another direction to what later became House
alastair68 1 year ago 2
@alastair68 definitely.
ANGELO13111 1 year ago
dude.. i was lucky enough to see jesse saunders play live at a club. not many ppl came to see him, which sucked. but hey! i got to meet him. he even spinned on my bf's CDJs :D
sweet stuff tho! thanks for sharing
talyst 2 years ago
No one never mention that between the end of the Disco Era in 1979 and between and 1981 there was a short lived Punk Out Hour on WVON radio station show hosted by DJ Herb Kent. Who introduced house music to chicago main stream. It aired and played the first house music on the radio. Followed by WKKC. Kraftwerk, Martin Circus and Blondie and Devo were some of the first artist to hit the air waves. These were the first aired mixes that evolved into HOUSE (1981 Julian HS)
razor1234 2 years ago
def remember Herb Kent busting out some classic cuts especially Martin Circus! I remember the call letters to be WXFM. The next day we ran into Loop Records and copped the jams he played. He introduced us to some pretty fresh music.
djisfan 2 years ago
I was going to HOUSE music clubs(Prince Street Loft)1980...this cant be first...plus there were many artists who are part of the genre but not classified as house....
BIGRICK1961 2 years ago
Sleeping Bag Records....Dinosaur L Go Bang(1982)...wow dude dont use Wikipedia...j/k...
BIGRICK1961 2 years ago
You right alot people don't know this. Only the first generation Deep House heads know this.
DoubleMM70 2 years ago
The evolution of music is an organic process and it's hard to pinpoint the "first song".
HunSavage 2 years ago
This was the third trax put out be Saunders but the first with vocals. As far as music made for and played in House this one of the first from Chicago. Songs like Walk the Night and Disco Circus weren't made in Chicago but they are House. What people listen today in Europe you can call house but unless it 's played in Chicago it ain't house you wouldn't go to Jamica and play some No Doubt and call it Reggae. House started in Chicago, House is Chicago.
sleprock86 2 years ago
dude, relax, mr dj, you're not what you play. My point is noone ever mentions New Order, Cabaret Voltaire, and others who were professional sounding at the time as the origins of house music. My point is that this is not any closer to the modern form than they were. By the way, hip hop today is a pile of garbage and so is modern rock and pop. Today's snotrags need to pose and bitch less, and listen and research more.
TheRealCritique 2 years ago
Thanks to everyone for their opinions and views. My opinion and memory of what House is and how it started differs from others. House music was created by Dj's who were influenced by a wide variety of music. Kraftwerk I believe had a huge part. Dj's were making these very basic beat tracks and slowly introduced their taped sounds at the gigs to layer other tracks over them. I can go on and on (sorry for the pun) I gotta go to work now but I will continue my thoughts later. Peace
djisfan 2 years ago
Kraftwerk would have been a bigger influence to mr atkins & co making the detroit sound , but hey house music up the middle if you move left or right you get techno & acid , it,s all good from here.
1fabster 2 years ago
I've read the classifications, but frankly this doesnt sound any more house to me than new order, who were far better at the time. I know New Order isn't like the house of today, but neither is this...
TheRealCritique 2 years ago
I don't understand your lame point!
Why would it sound "like the house of today" when it's now about 25 years later?
So is the rock music of today not rock because it doesn't sound like it did 25 years ago, what about Hip-Hop?
By the way this sounds like house to me.... the 4/4 beat, the open hi-hat on the 8th notes, the 120bpm tempo, the skipping snares on the 16th notes, the bass line, the electronic sounds.
House music is basically a modern electronic form of Disco and you're a moron!
DJDAMIAN72 2 years ago
Also, the sound that is popular right now is the European sound. That's what years of evolution here did to the music. After the European evolution of house music, it suddenly became popular in the rest of the world, including the USA.
NOT this sound you hear in this video, where nobody in the world gave 2 shits about.
This is also the reason why you are so proud of "the beginning of house". It's a little childish to act like you are responsible for anything in the house scene today, lol.
willemdawillem 2 years ago
willemdawillem - ur speaking out of ur ass brother.
teejayandrade 2 years ago
Its tough trying to figure out what was the first rock, disco, rap, house (song) etc...Saying jesse saunders was the first is not a bad guess but how do we categorize what house house music is. To me set it off by strafe is the first recognized house song to ever come out but alot of people labeled it as Garage (paradise) which wouldnt be wrong either. I think alot of artist hold this same controversy
mattylga 2 years ago
To: mattylga
"Set It Off" by Strafe is a very dope song but it doesn't sound like House Music at all, the only thing on it close to it is the open Hi-Hat!
"Set It Off" is more like Electro-Funk / Hip-Hop, like "Planet Rock" and all those dope early 80's B-boy records we used to Pop & BreakDance to!
House Music has electronic Disco drums for the dance floors,
Electro-funk had Funk BreakBeat drums for the B-boys!
Peace.
DJDAMIAN72 2 years ago
Alot of people will disagree with me and thats the fun part reading everyones input on the subject. I grew up on house and it seems all the main cities had their own style. Chicago where it started supposedly, new york with that garage style house( which is why i threw strafe in there), detroit with their fast pace version, jersey and england. My interpretation of what house music was is differs from others!!
mattylga 2 years ago 2
I have posted about 20 different videos about House Music, it's start etc. My side of the story went unkown until youtube.
I am bringing out unknown fact.
lrmxr1 2 years ago
The first copies were on LP, yellow lable. The initial drum are a take from Let No Man Put Usander and the concept of the song is from a Bootleg title On & On.
I got the song from Vince Lawrance himself prior to the wax hitting the stores in Chicago.
I consder It's House by Chip E as the first House record because 1, it was original 2,the title 3, ill include a video resposne.
lrmxr1 2 years ago
what's up man? First thanks for taking the time to comment on this. Chip E's stuff is incredible and I wish I still had em all. I'm sure there were tunes laying around on tapes at home or in studios before this came out. "It's House" came out in 1985 while this tune "On & On" released in 1984. So my point pretty much is this was the first House released on vinyl. Peace.
djisfan 2 years ago
This song wasn't anywhere near close to being the first or one of the best house cuts of the early 80's. I know Jesse & Vince & can remember when Jesse spun in the basement of a many houses on the South Side of Chgo & he will tell you that this cut actually did not get tat much fanfare. And Vince...by time he did become acknowledged i the genre, thanks to fat boy Farley & others, it had become to commercial & lost alot of it's luster & soul. Check disco DAI or any mix tape from Frankie on Adams.
mggj65 2 years ago
hey what's up? thanks for checking it out and for your comments. Now, this is the first "House" tune put on vinyl. I did not say it was the best. In fact the main reason I picked it up was the 117bpm track on side 2. It's a copycat of the "Mix Your Own Stars" beat track - yum!! Peace to you bro!
djisfan 2 years ago
Ugh, are we really still this pedantic in our thinking about music? Ideas (musical ideas included) DON'T exist in a vacuum, they get passed around and evolve over time. While you might be able to say that after about 1985 or 1986, house was a genre in it's own right, it didn't just pop into existence with one record. And yes, the kids in the UK DID take it and make it their own.
VideoGeek1973 2 years ago
wow, I had to look up pedantic. Nice. I'm not a nut about what's the absolute in everything, but it is fun to discuss it. You love music and records as I do then you enjoy everything about it. Even showing off my geeky collection. The birthplace House is Chicago. And yes that's important. To all who grew up with it and used it in their style. You should know where the roots are. I never rant like that, I need a nap now.
djisfan 2 years ago
Yes house is a conglomeration. This may have been the first cut named behind "House" music. But .. "I Feel Love" by Donna Summer was house before it was called House. That song was not disco it was Very much a prototype for house and techno music.
xiloves 2 years ago
first one, last one, all blah blah blah, a style of music never just comes from one record! that's wanky panky talk to me!
nebski 2 years ago
Not my taste, but i can fully appreciate that none of the rave scene in England would have happened if it wasn't for tunes like this. We just took this and made it our own. 5*
Pr0ject2 2 years ago
You made this your own???Really,,, you took from American house music and made money from it thats all you did. Yes we love the way Uk loved our music but no ,it was our own before it was yours......
KNXCPLNJ 2 years ago
I didn't say it was ours first... We took House music and made it evolve into Acid House, then what is now known as Old Skool Hardcore, then onto Jungle, then what the rave scene is all about now Drum n Bass. It all evolved from Chicago house and Detroit Techno. House is still there obviously but we put our own spin on it. The rave scene in Britain in constantly evolving with new styles. I'm not wrong look it up.
Pr0ject2 2 years ago
Acid House is from the Music Box and Ron Hardy from the winter spring of "86".
What you don't understand is that what was coming out of Chicago in the mid 80's was watered down version of House for export. real underground House never left the city.
sleprock86 2 years ago
And by the way musics is for everybody...
Pr0ject2 2 years ago
Look up the History of House on YouTube...will tell you everything you want to know.......lots of videos to see, N'Joy ;-)...xx
Kyesnanny 2 years ago
I agree it was a gradual transition from Disco & Dance. There were traks out in 82-83 that sound like "early House". I gues u cld say that Jesse's release of On&On really startd the flow of traks that were to follow. Early Trax & DJ Int. releases (Jungle Wonz, Marshall Jefferson, Sterling Void, etc) definitely had a different sound from what had happened before. And, anyway, I'm still real overwhelmd coz I just receivd a wonderful personal email from the man himself ~ Jesse. Means so much.
bootsamou 2 years ago
And just so you know, and you won't be completely misinformed, "On and On" by Jesse Saunders was released in 1984. The classic "House" sound was already established WAY before 1984, with songs such as "Can't Play Around" by Lace from 1982, and "Can't Fake the Feeling" by Geraldine Hunt from 1980. 1984 was when House was already in its prime, having been establish for several years already.
JECTV 2 years ago
Hmmm. Well.... I kno "Can't Fake..." may have been part of the Warehouse gay disco thing but it really is distinctly Disco. (I bought it & remember dancin to it !). The sound of "House" that we came to know really did stem gradually from later trax in 82 & 83. And I would say that probably 86 was it's prime... but hey ! let's not argue over a couple of years eh? Ha ! Let's just keep luvvin it, my friend. xx
bootsamou 2 years ago
oh no, no argument here! I TOO actually think house was truly in its prime in 86 as well.... I think 86 and 87 were the best years in house..... a lot of the greatest garage music was released in 86, like "Lets get Brutal" (nitro), "Celebrate" (subject), "I'll take You On" and "Hungry for your love" (both by hanson & davis)...... the list just goes on. "Cant fake the feeling" was one of those records that was released in one point in time (1980), then revived in a later point in time (84-85).
JECTV 2 years ago
there is no such thing as a "first" house record. "House" music was a gradual creation, blending out of disco, into breakdance beats, and fused with soul/r&b vocals. House music didn't just start out of nowhere as "house".... so a "first" record could never exist.
JECTV 2 years ago
First 500 were with black labels and were obviously all sold quite locally in Chicago. If u can find one on Discogs, be prepared to pay about $300 (£200). The subsequent pressings with a white label will be more in the region of £50 - £100.
U are very lucky to have the black one Sir.
bootsamou 2 years ago
cooooo
HipHopForDnBHeads 2 years ago
Jamie Principle's were the first house songs, but this was put on vinyl first. There's a lot of songs in the comments that predated house, that resemble house. But I would say Loose Joints' "Is It All Over My Face" is more closer to house than all of them though.
mick2spic 3 years ago
Ok I know somebody is going to ask:
1. Bostich-Yello
2. Situation (move out)- Yaz or Yazoo
3. Aeiou- Freeze-John Rocca
4. Walk the Night-Skatt Brothers
5. Din da, da-George Kranz
6. White Horse-Wonderland Ave.
That's for the true heads. After Rock Lobster but before Jamie Principle. I used to mix it up at Mendel and at our community center. Those were the days.
Moor4u 3 years ago
It falls into a phase after disco where people were experimenting with the disco sound to change it but keep some key elements. Walk the night was mixed into other cuts during the beat break after house got popular because of the lyrics. Played for shock value among straight people and for the amusement of the gay crowd.
Moor4u 3 years ago
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Moor4u 3 years ago
Here's my two cents back in 82/83 the first song I remember that seemed like house was a joint called "move out" of course i'm not talking about the classic disco joints which were the foundations for chi-town house but move out came out and then all the classic house joints followed.
28thStonyisland 3 years ago
I remember the transistion that you're talking about between disco and house. "Move out, Bostitch, White Horse, Dun da da, AEIOU, Walk the Night" those are considered electronic and not house but they had that feel and laid the basis.
Moor4u 3 years ago
when you say 'move out' do u mean 'situation' by yazz (aka yazoo)?
frontosa777 2 years ago
According to most old school house heads here in Chicago, the first house track ever made was "its house" by Chip E....but who really knows though!?!?!
mrdeedz1 3 years ago
i dont know whats more important:
whats the first housetune or whats the first best.
the first best and serious ones for me were "sweet D - thank ya" and of course marshall jefferson (dont know exactly whats first of them =)
watch?v=4dwUsOEpDf8
well, if i only were 2 or 3 years older it could be another tune.
xtom1973 3 years ago
It is the second house record ever (after Your Love by Jamie Principle) but it is the first ever house record to be put on vinyl
thecalmmusicalspirit 3 years ago
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thecalmmusicalspirit 3 years ago
Alt aber echt geil!!
DiSscOjUnkY 3 years ago
1:38 empieza
qwerty2acerty 3 years ago
How about SKAT BROS , WALK THE NIGHT . From 1979 . it was not known as house but its definantly house style ,a Ron hardy favourite
ferguson077 3 years ago
I think you mean Skatt Bros, Walk the Night, and i have heard this arguement before. The style is no where near house, even the remix. Its awful. The nearest they get to early house is the ridiculous " moustache " craze that swept the gay population at the time...Awful awful awful tune, which ever gendre..
leedou72 3 years ago
yes i aree Walk the night is not a great tune , but its a house style drum beat with electro samples and a vocal . and like i said Ron hardy plus larry levan and knuckles all played it , its that in 1979 there was no House music term as such
ferguson077 3 years ago
What?!Walk the Night not a great tune!?
Try telling that to a packed dancefloor at 1a.m.!
oldcomforter 2 years ago
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Moor4u 3 years ago
It goes on and on...BITCH
XD!!!! Awesome song
MelloToJello 3 years ago
bear in mind house is a very diverse genre,
to be fair i wouldn't like to say what the first ever house track was but unless there is another track earlier using a 303 bass synthesizer and incorpirating other fundimental aspects i think this is deffinatly up there as a possibility. If any1 knows of anything earlier please leave a list of track name and date i'm on a mission now ha ha
stuiedelap85 3 years ago
JM Silk "Music is the Key" (1985) is argued to be the 1st but it is contentious...many think it is "On &On"...
mickeymusicstar 3 years ago
Giorgio Moroder - I feel love (1978) is older that this. Look for it
djkaditaly 3 years ago
i feel love is disco music, not house
haigna 3 years ago
House DEFINITELY followed disco. There was no "HOUSE MUSIC", before the term was coined by visitors to the Warehouse Nightclub in Chicago. The early form of mixing was dubbed "House." It wasn't until around 1983 that house had its first song identified as house, and created originally. That song was what came to be known as Your Love, by Jamie Principle. This (On and ON) is DEFINITELY the first song recorded as HOUSE on a Chicago label, the city of origin for House music.
cboneofenglewood 3 years ago
Yes you are correct sir!! Disco was Sylvester, Martin Circus, Sing,Sing. think Your Love may have debuted at the Plant in 83. I can't remember if I had graduated already when this came out. (Kenwood 83)This cut is old as dirt though but "Your Love" set it all off. I also remember losin it at Sauer's the first time I heard "Bad Boy". Remember the Underground on Lower Wacker/Michigan? That was the loudest shit I ever heard in my life.
snowblind413 3 years ago
I remember the R2 Underground. Lol Sauer's, I forgot about that one. Thanks for the memories. PLJ '84
Moor4u 3 years ago
I am very curious on what those House tracks are from that era. Could you list them or even better post a vid? Thanks!
djisfan 3 years ago
its arguable house music developed e.g on influence being late disco - see 'just like a door knob' by Touché tho the version on ytube is played much too slowly :D
gyrovague 3 years ago
the full title of 'on and on' is 'on and on 144' or some other number - anyone know the number properly?
gyrovague 3 years ago
This is the first house RECORD.. literally as in it was the first house track ever put on Vinyl (which is also commonly referred to as a record) and sold to the public.. there were many house tracks made before this but they were distributed on tape.
mikechorizo 3 years ago
This is the third house trax made and the first one made for radio.Jesse put out a group of beat tracks that form the base beat for this song and he took a beat and laid sound efxs over for the second trax. the beats where realesed in "83" the second beats wheren't.
andrecryer 3 years ago
The Original was this but not the firts played it's was On&On by Mach
jetit 3 years ago
first house track is YOUR LOVE frankie knuckles, i think they did it in print too
bigguy0813 3 years ago
"Your Love" came out a year after this.
timeswasting 3 years ago
Your Love" by Jamie Principle
mick2spic 3 years ago
nitro deluxe ripped it bigtime !
jackal2513 3 years ago
Shit,that is so fucking cool,,,On and On
KNXCPLNJ 3 years ago
look at discogs, you can find more info over jesse and i see that jesse's first track in 83'/84' is.
kelpenoler 3 years ago
It's the same pace as Mary's. It one dude and "OOh's" the key. This must sound bizarre but play the Mary track and she's using the ooh as her first vocal on the track. Grew up in CT listening to college radio (exposed to much underground). I recall a college DJ claim the guy was from Middletown or Waterbury CT, can't confirm. I have been looking for this song for years. Listen to Mary's again before the heavy bass kicks in (10 secs) it's his version then they modernize it.
sheltonmarc 3 years ago
No god status just yet. I not asking about the great Issac Hayes tune, I'm asking about the one from the eighties where the guy starts with the ooh's (about six of them) and then "when were back in grade school you wanted to be it"...and adds that ooh thing throughout the song. Mary's version is closer to his than Issac's! Come on man your rep is on the line....
sheltonmarc 3 years ago
do you remember if it was a slower song or faster? Give me as much as you remember (a group or solo act) thanks.
djisfan 3 years ago
The lyrics go.. "when we played tag in grade school you wanted to be it"...I know it's the Jackson five but the guy bit'em.
sheltonmarc 3 years ago
Thanks man. Actually I'm surprised/shocked that you knew that. Been searching forever, your pretty thorough. Here's a puzzler...Mary J samples a tune/melody on her "I love You" track but gives the poor guy no credit. She uses his piano melody no doubt. I remember the song, it exists. She even bites the guys "OOH". If I remember he bites the lyrics from a Jackson Five song. If you know that one your a 80's god!
sheltonmarc 3 years ago
Originally it's by Isaac Hayes. Tune is "Ike's Mood" sampled later by Biz Markie for his "Make the Music With Your Mouth" Yeah Boy!!
djisfan 3 years ago
hey anybody know who sang Moody, it's where Chip E/K Joy got the phrase "Like This" from. The artist in Moody says it..
sheltonmarc 3 years ago
Moody is by ESG. Great track!!
djisfan 3 years ago