Oh, and Chris was describing one of the earliest drum miking techniques, started when you only had a few inputs that had to be summed to tape. Ribbons (yes ribbons) were often used in the second position he spoke of near the snare and kick. Look up a video with George Massenburg if you want to see this in action. It also sounds awesome if you do it right.
A few things: Chris is a very knowledgeable guy. Also, there IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG WAY to record anything. As long as you aren't frying equipment, and as long as it sounds good and FITS THE PROJECT, then you're doing it right. You think flanging, or tape delay was considered "right" when it was introduced? Or distortion on a guitar amp? If you know how to work your way around a studio, phase becomes less of an issue.
I get what he's saying, but I DON"T agree. You will get a much more rounded quality sound if you isolate the drums and use mics specific to the frequencies that they produce.
what a load of wank. this technique has no mixing possibilities, no stereo overheads, and your prone to phasing problems on all of the mics. not even one close mic?!?!??! did i mention its not even a slingy? poor show!
@residentdrummerpete Phasing problems come from MORE mics, not less. one or two mics is all you need! Have you ever tried using one or two mics on a kit? If you are patient and use your ears, one mic is all you need.
@MrMegaEli Depends on the application, sure its a viable production choice, but i'd like to see you tell a metal drummer that you are only going to use one mic on the kit.
Personally, I tend to use a slightly different setup on drum mics almost every time I record them. It all depends on the song of course, but sometimes I take a minimalist approach and only use 3 or 4 mics, and sometimes it's necessary to go all out and use a mic on every part of the set. Most of the time it's in between that, but again, it varies with each song and what is required.
It's really cool to see what other people are doing, however, and I love seeing new techniques.
Ummm... Hello! I said Slingerland RADIO KINGS. Now if idiots took off the heads that's not what this guys video here is about here because the heads are on the drums. WATCH THE VIDEO. I am talking about this video, not what you hate about 70's drums without heads. MOST RADIO KING players between the 50-70's kept the heads on and they were using a lot of calfskin drumheads too.
Oh, and Chris was describing one of the earliest drum miking techniques, started when you only had a few inputs that had to be summed to tape. Ribbons (yes ribbons) were often used in the second position he spoke of near the snare and kick. Look up a video with George Massenburg if you want to see this in action. It also sounds awesome if you do it right.
JordonGWP 1 week ago
A few things: Chris is a very knowledgeable guy. Also, there IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG WAY to record anything. As long as you aren't frying equipment, and as long as it sounds good and FITS THE PROJECT, then you're doing it right. You think flanging, or tape delay was considered "right" when it was introduced? Or distortion on a guitar amp? If you know how to work your way around a studio, phase becomes less of an issue.
JordonGWP 1 week ago
I get what he's saying, but I DON"T agree. You will get a much more rounded quality sound if you isolate the drums and use mics specific to the frequencies that they produce.
HaakNBake 7 months ago
Where's the Slingerland? Title of this video is misleading.
p0llenp0ny 10 months ago
what a load of wank. this technique has no mixing possibilities, no stereo overheads, and your prone to phasing problems on all of the mics. not even one close mic?!?!??! did i mention its not even a slingy? poor show!
residentdrummerpete 1 year ago
@residentdrummerpete Phasing problems come from MORE mics, not less. one or two mics is all you need! Have you ever tried using one or two mics on a kit? If you are patient and use your ears, one mic is all you need.
MrMegaEli 5 months ago
@MrMegaEli Depends on the application, sure its a viable production choice, but i'd like to see you tell a metal drummer that you are only going to use one mic on the kit.
ScrambledLamb 1 month ago
thats not a slingerland rofl
Monkeyabortions07 1 year ago
There is nothing i hate more than seeing a drum set set up like that. PUT YOUR F'ING TOMS ON THE RIGHT WAY!!!
Etwizzy99 1 year ago
@Etwizzy99 We call that "drum cleavage"...
I12BPhil 1 year ago
Um...that's not a Slingerland Vintage 60's kit. That's a Yamaha Recording Custom kit with and unknown brand snare with Yamaha wood hoops added.
drulius 1 year ago
that's a Yamaha Recording Custom kit, I don't know about the snare
Nootherlove1 2 years ago
nice video. using this setup, what kind of mics (dynamic, cond., ribbon..) would you use for each position, in front, back , mono overhead etc.
thanks.
golafs 2 years ago
hey gearwire, I love the opening synth theme of your videos! who made that? :)
golafs 2 years ago
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mnc74 2 years ago
it would be nice if we could actually hear the results of this method compared to the close miking and/or other ones...
kapdrums 2 years ago
Besides the low-end of the kick and bottom end of the snare, you're also getting the resonant head of the rack tom.
I fail to see how this way of miking is better than your standard X/Y.
forloveishope 2 years ago
Personally, I tend to use a slightly different setup on drum mics almost every time I record them. It all depends on the song of course, but sometimes I take a minimalist approach and only use 3 or 4 mics, and sometimes it's necessary to go all out and use a mic on every part of the set. Most of the time it's in between that, but again, it varies with each song and what is required.
It's really cool to see what other people are doing, however, and I love seeing new techniques.
JoshSitar 2 years ago
i disagree. less mics = less control of drum sound. it would be nice to hear a comparison of your method and a mic on each drum.
cremsoncream 2 years ago
damn it i wanted to hear that slingerland
shoober616 3 years ago 2
You are so right on about less mic's to record drums. I am a big fan of Slingerland Radio King drums and the 1950-70's era of drum recording.
SlugPercussion 3 years ago
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mnc74 2 years ago
Ummm... Hello! I said Slingerland RADIO KINGS. Now if idiots took off the heads that's not what this guys video here is about here because the heads are on the drums. WATCH THE VIDEO. I am talking about this video, not what you hate about 70's drums without heads. MOST RADIO KING players between the 50-70's kept the heads on and they were using a lot of calfskin drumheads too.
SlugPercussion 2 years ago
very useful
samnadel 3 years ago
Never thought about miking drums with that front and back technique. will definately have to try it. I've always used 2 overheads, kick and snare
Bobbyeagle 3 years ago