Rutgers refuses to Honor Milton Friedman

[ManInAHighCastle]

I don't quite know what the intention was here. Everyone else probably turned up to get drunk.

[zotone]

It is astonishing how ignorant the students of now inexistent Centurion proved themselves to be. With all due respect, here's a couple of facts. Friedman publicly criticized the values of public university education, especially Rutgers. He even disregarded to comment on his years at Rutgers when contacted by one of our proffs (letter in NJ hall). Honoring Friedman validates his rejection of public education and undermines foundations of RU. Centurion, I'm not surprised you are dead now.

[dragan221]

@zotone Honoring a Stalinist undermines a lot more than the foundations of RU. It undermines the entire foundation of out society, including freedom of speech, freedom of religion and every other right and freedom that we enjoy. So what's your point again?

[Questfortruth86]

This video perfectly exemplifies the confusion that has come to define our age.

[BrickLaneBetty]

@Questfortruth86 and low intelligence.

[YourNameHere1212]

knappy headed liberals! I guess I have less - thought it couldn't get much lower - respect for rutgers.

[DavidHilll]

@YourNameHere1212, Friedman does NOT deserve to be honored in ANY way!

[YourNameHere1212]

@DavidHilll Advocating for more freedom, personal responsibility, and a larger pie for everyone is meritless.

[DavidHilll]

@YourNameHere1212, Friedman didn't advocate "freedom." He provided the theortical justification for attacks on freedom to be undertaken in the NAME of freedom! Friedman was an extremist who promoted an ideology which could never be realized in the real world because he was simply an armchair revolutionary.

All Friedman ever did was sit around & theorize "if x then y should happen." His theories almost never hold up to reality because they can't: they're grounded in unachievable theoreticals

[YourNameHere1212]

@DavidHill Good luck with that nonsense.

[unfad1ng]

@DavidHilll

IM sorry but you seem to have confused Freidmans ideology with Communism

[carlindelco]

@DavidHilll Oh ok.. yeah especially after you cited all the reasons why they should maintain support of robeson over Friedman.. A communist over an America Patriot?

[HerrSchenkel]

While I'm a supporter of a lot that Friedman did, trying to crash that performance is kind of a dick move and what I expect from liberal college students. Dressing up as Soviets and playing the anthem whilst handing out papers with facts would have been a better idea. But then again, I have a fetish for totalitarian uniforms, haha.

[thomasdaveluy]

Milton Friedman, second photo him and bush. Says it all really. "Intellectuals".

[chokin2]

shame on rutgers

[kysit02]

Milton Friedman's attempts, and success, at liberating an entire nation under horrible conditions doesn't exactly rival Robeson's praise of a mass murderer and totalitarian dictator as you imply. We apologize that his "evil" plans of freedom and economic prosperity offend you.

Also, please explain how I am a "neo-fascist" as you say all Centurion writers are?

[BrickLaneBetty]

You need to read more about Paul Robeson and his beliefs in socialism, anti-colonialism the USSR, you've bought into the David Horowitz lies and much of what you speak is out of context. Freidman is the reason the economy is in shitter now but maybe as rich people this does not effect you? MF in many of his interviews takes zero responsibility for the greed band exploitation that capitalism has caused in fact all he does is bring up communism as some strawman.

[Nintendomanwill]

As for exporting jobs to the third world, America should gain comparative advantage by exerting labour in a greater division of it: YET you blame this freedom you haven't had (lack of gold standard has killed international finance due to the Franken-Money forced on us by central banking and Fractional Reserve banking!) when you should be blaming Chinese mercantilists who hoard dollars stolen from Chinese workers, not for 'greed' but to keep the dollar high and the Yuan low soAmerica=uncompetitiv

[BrickLaneBetty]

At the moment of economic abundance, the concentrated result of social labour becomes visible and subjugates all reality to appearance, which is now its product." -Guy-Ernest Debord

I'm not a bitch. I hate Stalin. A bitch refuses to admit and see a problem with literally evreything in the US coming from China.

The Us is the only country where "Artisan hand crafted" means made in China.

You have no sense of where responsibility should be. capitalism is fine but not Friedman's free 4 all.

[BrickLaneBetty]

I've been a Robeson historian for over a decade and be happy to debate any of you ANY time about how wrong and malicious you all are.

It's a neo-fascist revisionist stereotype to make Communist affiliations, the "crime of crimes" but the world is smaller now and the right wing can't cover up their crimes as before. Robeson risked his own neck to, as Jackie Robinson said, because he sincerely wanted to help his people. Milton Friedman was happy to sit back and risk the lives of others.

Tacky.

[Nintendomanwill]

You blame freedom for removing America's prosperity when you have had less and less freedom over the period you lament: as well as being a stupid little bitch, and one of the nastiest people I have ever seen to comment on economic issues (which is saying something, congratulations Ms Stalinist!) you are obviously insane since you blame free trade when you haven't had it, you blame freedom's lack of redistribution of wealth when you've had that in SPADES; you should blame American governments!

[BrickLaneBetty]

"Freedon"?? Greed and out sourcing is not freedom. it's stupidity. If you learn anything from the mistakes of the Stalin era it's that too much power and freedom corrupts regardless of what system you call it. Our great Us flag is made in China!

[kysit02]

To BrickLaneBetty: Your embarrassing attempts to demonize and diminish Milton Friedman are futile because of centuries of economic history backing him up. It is true, Milton Friedman guided Chile's economy, while not agreeing with Pinochet's policies in any way, chose to make their country a bit freer. After his plans were actually implemented, the time period was known as the "miracle of Chile" due to their economy booming and becoming one of the best in the Americas.

[BrickLaneBetty]

Pinochet asked Friedman to write him a letter about his judgments on what Chilean economic policy should be, which Friedman did . He advocated quick and severe cuts in government spending and inflation, as well as instituting more open international trade policies—and to provide for the relief of any cases of real hardship and severe distress among the poorest classes. He did not choose this as an opportunity to upbraid Pinochet for any of his repressive policies

[BrickLaneBetty]

His views of monetary policy, taxation, privatization and deregulation informed the policy of governments around the globe, most notably the administrations of Margaret Thatcher in Britain, Ronald Reagan in the US and Augusto Pinochet in Chile.

So why are you not marching regarding how many people Augusto Pinochet in Chile killed or Reagan in Central America?

HYPOCRITES!!

[RadiantMirage]

Just because one's policy informs government policy does not mean it dictates it. You act as if the massive power of the state and its subsequent abuses magically disappeared under Reagan and Thatcher(like Friedman would have wanted).It doesn't take long to realize that the reality of power hungry politics prevents Friedman's ideas from being implemented at any large scale. Token deregulation here and there is irrelevant, but is typically used by liberals to decry capitalism as a whole.

[BrickLaneBetty]

Friedman neglects to mention that human greed simply cannot be trusted and must be closely regulated in regards to big buisness. Look at Firestone Tires from Robeson's perspective and you get my drift. MF would want few restrictions put on their means of production and it has amounted gross exploitation that continues. Just one of thousand examples of MF style capitalism. It kills small businesses and let's Wal mart move in.

[RadiantMirage]

@BrickLaneBetty To respond to the point about greed, I guess Friedman and I hold a higher opinion of Man's ability to govern his own affairs than you do. If Man can't be trusted, you expect to give a small group of government bureaucrats(who are also men, by the way) power to control the rest? What magical pool of angels do these philosopher kings come from? What prevents them from colluding with big business to sate their own greed, creating infinitely worse abuses of power? Nothing.

[BrickLaneBetty]

An opinion that has been proven wrong so many times that I'm not really sure who programmed your interstellar tracking device!

Big business decided to bust Unions and out source US jobs overseas-millions of jobs. They had to move the call centre to India and push the small Toy store, coffee shop and drug store/mercantile merchant off of main street in order to amass more money and it has destroyed a lot of what was beautiful about the US.

[Nintendomanwill]

Oh dear, it appears we have a spurious idiot here called BrickLaneBetty. Let's kick this stupid socialist bitch's inane ramblings to bits!

1. If you use force to make war on the market you make war on the people: if I want to shop at Walmart, let me, forcing people to patronise small business pushes up costs for EVERYONE, we're all linked in the Division of Labour you stupid little girl.

2. Unions have never helped poor people but make labour and consequently EVERYTHING too expensive.

[BrickLaneBetty]

I can't answer the rest of the questions only that the US worked with Unions and smaller businesses with higher quality goods sold to Americans by the Americans who made them.

Robeson was the most globally famous artist of the first half of the 20th century-no one else came close. Google him. You will be shocked you never heard of him.

[Nintendomanwill]

3. US jobs have been exported because of labour unions making them too expensive: big business does bust those violent institutions, thank, god, so entry level workers can have the chance that unions deny them and so hard-workers can advance against the wishes of Union thugs. Your commitment to international harmony and contractual society is beautiful, you disgusting, bellicose harpy!

4. Greed does not do anything but hone productivity and living standards in the catallactic orderofindiviudals

[BrickLaneBetty]

you are drinking Koolaid

[Nintendomanwill]

Yet you blame the 'free' market when you should be blaming the Chinese government for hoarding dollars keeping their workers poor and unable to import, deliberately so as to keep the dollar appreciating thus hurting exports; which isn't helped by the constant malinvestment and overconsumption caused by the Fed as you spend money you don't have that's being created out of thin air while interest rates are pushed low to facilitate this expansion so that people save LESS-blame Fed 4 uncompetitivnes

[BrickLaneBetty]

I hold Clinton, GATT, Fastrack aka nafta on steroids responsible too. and I'm, not AT ALL a Liberal,

I'm a leftist . A leftist and a liberal are two very different types of political philosophies. One is an anti-materialist and one masses wealth pretending to do it ethically.

[Nintendomanwill]

5. There are reasons for the decline of US manufacturing: the debt-driven malinvestment of credit-expansionary booms formed by your beloved central-bank, the Fed, and their tyrannous and fraudulent control over interest rates, leading consumption to increase while savings decrease and causing speculative booms in areas whose price index is driven only by inflation and not real demand from the market: i.e. malinvestment. China, a mercantilist socialist state, steals incomes and hoards dollars

[BrickLaneBetty]

That said Friedman SHOULD have a building seeing as Lazy "fair" capitalism has created the recession which is now the monument to the collective US conciousness . But using bogus and taken out of context history,Rankin/Bilbo/Martin Dies/Hoover style antics to defame Robeson is not the way to accomplish it.

[RadiantMirage]

@BrickLaneBetty I would blame it on government actually, and easy credit provided by the fed, causing everyone to get "drunk" to use George Bush's analogy. The recession is actually the good thing, the bubble was the problem. Note: Fannie and Freddie are not a product of free market capitalism but a government/private sector lovechild, and they were one of the worst actors contributing to this crisis. I actually have never heard of this Robeson character before, so I won't comment on him.

[BrickLaneBetty]

I don't disagree entirely.

[Nintendomanwill]

The second thing is that you are a filthy ignoramus who should put up and shut up! Why do you advocate more of the same statism that has maintained America's ghettoes with welfarism, that has destroyed international relations with protectionism and currency fluctuations...with your fiat currency you prevent the little man from gaining wealth through stable money supply (partly the fault of monetarists like Friedman who wasn't a true free market economist) and prevent international development.

[Nintendomanwill]

6. You are Marxist scum who should be attacked like a savage animal for your attempts to promote the rule of coercion in wages and in deciding who can buy from whom! You are Marxist because you believe that employers profit at the expense of employee, you believe in mythical class conflict and expropriation: well here's two rectifying truths for you:

There is only capitalism, with varying degrees of coercion from which we can be weaned by contractual society, freedom will always make capitalism.

[BrickLaneBetty]

Violence now? I'm not a Marxist. not everyone who disregards Friedman is a Red. neither is everyone who defends Paul Robeson. the fact that you breakdown into some primitive creature just shows you are no better than then a fascist.

I'm in my 30's, I remember the world before your great ideals brought walmart &crap like target. that's your sweatshop cheap world with no unions you want to be help foster the society that sees exploitation profit then you're just another idiot in a Nike t-shirt.

[Nintendomanwill]

And if your knowledge of society and the natural laws which govern its economic operation extended beyond what you recall from your no-doubt halcyon childhood, then you would remember a time of sound money before Gold Standard was ended, when credit booms could only be so extensive; you would furthermore know of a time before Trust Busting when governments didn't intervene so much in the affairs of the free market: now you have fiat currency and fiscal insanity, you're taxpaying slaves, paupers.