Ignoring Alex Salmond won't make him go away

[inverkenny]

bye bye Gordon.

[N330AA]

Christ those Scots are sensitive.

[jistaface]

Didn't they realise that dissing a nation's head of government is a slap in the face to the nation, not the man?

[krackersdave]

@RichardElden Hardly - what you going to fight with - 40% of the UK armed forces are of Scottish birth or decent...

[chancergordy]

A civil war in England is nonsense but in the interests of debate, let's play along with this 'tosh'

What happens in another country is of no interest to me. This inevitably happens when a poor country like England tries to come to terms with its own shortcomings.

You could borrow some money from Scotland but only if we Scots can pick your next leader.

Good luck for your independent England future.

[krackersdave]

@chancergordy Civil war is utterly inevitable in large parts of England - it'll take time (50 years) but the growth of Islam and the massive birth rate of Islamic families makes the future clear. It's just a fact - give it time and whats happening to the coptic Christians in Egypt will be happening here...

[sonyipod1987]

This is quite typical behaviour. It is similar behaviour to attempts by Ireland to gain independence in the late 1800's and throughout history and it could even be shown that such behaviour caused Northern Ireland spiral out of control for many years too. Especially under Margret Tatcher's government. Its very childish and England is only making matters worse and holding off the inevitable. It just show's Scotland has a stronger share of its powers and English leaders are rightfully worried.

[Gusdocs1]

Gordon Brown phoney Scotsman

[TheDdm1234]

maybe he will this time since he is a MAJORITY government as David Cameroon has more to loose! HA

[paul24111]

WELL GORDON BROWN DIDNY LAST LONG.DID HE. BIG FAT BUNGLING GIT..

[MarvellousMuffin]

@paul24111

A president that nobody elected.

[K100RS]

I cant get this video to play past 1:13and it takes ages to get that far Great work keep it up

Saor Alba

[MrScottishJamie]

most people who r against the snp r english

[jed371]

@MrScottishJamie no, trust me. if you gave us a vote, we would vote scotland out of the United Kingdom any day of the week. Please get out of our parliament, and take the welsh, and irish with you. You see westminster? its the parliament of england, its the first parliament to exist in the world. please have independence and see were it gets you. you wont answer to london anymore, maybe to brussels

[MrScottishJamie]

@jed371 stats show the english vote conservative aka david cameron and margaret thatcher stealing our oil and money they r not many english democrats voters they r a minority

[MsCailleach]

@jed371 Dearie me, what is it they teach in England instead of history?

The first parliament in the world was in ICELAND in the year 930AD. The Westminster Parliament is not and never was the Parliament of England. It was created to replace the English and the Scottish Parliaments in 1707.

Might want to try reading a history book, love.

[cjmastablasta]

Labour think they have a god given right to run Scotland. They continue to ignore the people of Scotlands views on more powers for the parliament and they will pay for it at the election box. The unionist parties joined together to oppose a refarendum on more powers while at the same time in wales support one. No democracy for Scots it seems. NI already has more fiscal powers than we do. Seems westminster is not prepared for giving up Scotlands resources yet. Scotland robbed blind as per

[cjmastablasta]

Just shows how much labour in Scotland are more envolved with party politics than actually running the country. They are a shamefull lot of misfits in holyrood. Nothing to offer apart from bitchin and moaning. God help us if they get back into admistration. The Scottish government have managed to put through more of their policies than the previous labour admin but u would never think it with the unionist media in Scotland. bashing thr SNP with every labour claim and acusation no democracy here

[cameranzo1]

LOL gordon brown is pissed about SNP in power!

[thenatman01]

You'd think the BBC were trying it now... ignore the SNP and they'll go away.  ScotlandSpeaks.

[YARROWS]

Alex Salmond goes into a cold swet when he can't find his Braveheart dvd.

[pokerkid99]

tom mcabe? lol. generic labour drooler. you all know that if IQ tests were still mandatory the labour benches in Edinburgh would be empty.

[mrfrostynova]

Gordon Brown - monumental twat.

[rebelyell250]

dont invite salmond anywhere,hel only take that muppet sandi thom with him and give her snp/uk cash,pair of w>>>s

[warriorprince1010]

Alex "glasgow murder rates and unemployment being ignored "Salmon hates the English less than the BBC and Brown.

[Alba12349]

Gordon Brown is a traitor

[PeterFirthFan]

Alex salmond is a Nazi.

[strathpipe]

Considering the SNP have both their hands tied behind their backs Mr Salmond and the SNP have done very well indeed the best ever in fact, as for Mr Brown it's Broon the GOON really! also if Mi5 or Mi 6 7/8 or what ever they call them were not involved in the election the SNP won I will eat my sporron...where did the new fangled counting Machines come from? eh

[VillaMan08]

I wish Alec Salmond would go away, his just another EU puppet that wishes to seprate from Westminster so he can sell our souls to Brussles..Like Blair and Brown....

[WhyCantIVote]

The SNP is pretty much just a nationalist version of Labour. Apart from that the two parties have similar ideaologies.

[ConCon75]

I hope us N.Irish follow you scots out of the Union, then the Irish can shut the fuck up and finally work out WE ARENT BRITS!

[sportsnut712001]

Those guys look so faaat so they have not the power to move their body trough their society. I can not imagine some initiative in them to rule the world! They can not rule their own bodies!

[lemmidos]

Brown is communist fabian scum, end of story.

[NeMeImpuneLacessit]

Gordon is an ignorant fuckwit. Son of the manse, don't make me laugh. With his morals, conscience and social skills he is more like a son of satan. I wish he would go away if we ignored him.

No matter how bad things get and how often he is told to get to hell, he just comes out with the same drivel about getting on with the job, (of ruining the country) and that he's the best man for the job, (of ruining the country) .

Saor Alba!

[strathpipe]

SCOTLAND WULL and so will Alex Salmond......watch yer Mouth Punk.

[davieboy198607]

I really hope SNP win the referendum vote next year

[hydra8888]

Gordon is an unelected tool.

[ahumanfly1975]

gordon your a sick wee man

[Birsey89]

Wow thats ridiculous at the end how he just ignores the questions about the new SNP government; on what grounds is he ignoring the question? Its just childish really.

[sniker45]

salmond has a vision of the future and it isnt the united kingdom

[GrittyPunk]

Salmond will put scotland on its knees you silly idealistic tool, And put scotland into complete whiplash under Europe,

[Wyrdtimes]

Brown is such an ignorant fekker.

I wish England had a man like Salmond fighting our corner.

[andysquare]

waydeey or whatever your name is. the SNP are not what you and many other uneducated retards would term as 'nationalist,' they are the scottish NATIONAL party and there is a difference. If you read their manifesto you will see they tend towards policies in direct contrast to 'nationalist' parties such as the BNP

[GrittyPunk]

You fucking idiot, Do you really believe that bullshit

Go pick up a history book or better yet talk to someone who was about when germany went the same way

SNP might hide under democracy, But their intentions are completely nationalistic and borderline facist

[baronsarwarofgovan]

So Mr Punk, tell me how the National Socialist German Workers Party of the 1930s promoted the ideals of self-determination and internationalism?

I suspect you can't. In which case your point is factually bereft, ideologically moronic, and utterly ignorant.

You fucking idiot.

[GrittyPunk]

Alright, Since you asked so nicely you fruitcake, What part of your beloved arse kissing Alex Salmond promotes internationalism? Exactly how does "he" promote self determination, The concept and most of his plans ideas for Scotland involve using and exploiting situations which are just ludicrus, He's telling shallow minded morons like you what you want to hear in the hope you will give him what he wants, And tbh, Its going to be funny as hell to watch him put Scotland into the shitter

[baronsarwarofgovan]

I would've said giving Scotland (self) the opportunity vote Aye or Naw to independence in a referendum (determination) would qualify as self-determination. Meeting the UN target for 0.7% of GDP to be given over to foreign aid and playing a full role in the EU & UN is internationalist.

Mind you, having read some of your comments elsewhere and - shock! horror! - discovering you're a bigoted BNP fucknugget, you wouldn't really be interested. Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out.

[SeanOBriain]

@GrittyPunk that's the same type of fear-mongering that us Irish were told when we sought independence. Decades on, we had one of world's strongest economies with one of the highest percentages of the population in the world to go onto university. Detractors will tell the Scottish people that they can't go it alone and that they are not capable of running their own affairs. This is posturing bollocks, and the sooner you realise - the better.

[chancergordy]

@GrittyPunk, you must be a labour numpty then!

tell me how much the uk borrows each month from international banks and then try to explain to me why scotland is better off staying part of the sinking ship, sorry, the uk.

[ConCon75]

I hope Scots get independence but when they get it ill be voting for another party to rule scotland not the psuedo tori SNP.

Im coming back across the Irish sea to vote on Independence as an ulster scot.

[MontagueBurton]

I'm presuming you mean pseudo Tory. Your time across the water has left you lacking in certain knowledge, the SNP are a left of centre party. Don't take my word for it.

 "The SNPs nationalism is based on citizenship, rather than on ethnicity, religion, or language, and is pro-immigration." ------- H.D.S. Greenway -- Boston Globe ---- 11th March 2009

[ConCon75]

yea i know that now, i was still quite confused at the time i posted that.

Scotland has the potential to become like norway or sweden if its managed properly.

[danny88101]

The United Kingdom saw off Hitler, we can see of Alex Salmond.

[WilliamTaylor1]

Alex Salmond would crush Hitler using only logical argument and then he would mentally cripple you by singing 'Rowan Tree'.

The dude abides.

[davie12]

No you can't

[jmarow]

Speaking as an Englishman I have quite a considerable respect for Mr Salmon.He has a straight forward honorable objective and pursues it well. Admittedly he is actively trying to stoke resentment in England at all the perks Scots Get but us English dont, but I blame Nu Labour for making this possible

[Aw5977az]

There has never been a more important time for the United Kingdom to remain one country than now . The terrorist threat facing us is very real .

Scotland and Wales are just as vulnerable as England . This is one small island , we need to stand firm .

[eoin1916]

Agree the terror threat from Brown hasnt diminished from Blairs Brit imperialism. Saor Alba. Bye bye brits.

[Aw5977az]

Your view is insular and misguided.

[WilliamTaylor1]

Aw5977az... Your comment would put a smile on the face of any terrorist rat bastard that read it.

WE DO NOT FEAR THESE PEOPLE. We despise them and will conquer them. Scotland has already taken the first vital steps in stopping these extremists, we did what had to be done.

We kicked them in the nuts.

[thetruthuncovered]

Alex Salmond is an honest and genuine man fighting for such a justified cause.

Gordon Brown and the Labour party are dishonest, and fight for nothing but Middle East chaos.

[waydeewaydee]

Fuck salmond, hes a sweaty faced liar and I hate that people can't see it.

Nationalism is a terrible thing.

[davie12]

learn to live with it... it's the future

[alacas69]

What the people of Scotland should see by the time of the next election is a change of mood across the land; they will have seen and experienced first hand the difference between a party that sticks up for Scotland and its interests and that of the tired old Labore habit of being Westminster's poodle. Let the voters decide at the next election and decide they will ...they will decide from the knowledge that things improved under an SNP administration! Vote for Scotland, Vote SNP.

[Brilliantcreem]

The people of Scotland are for the most part are a down to earth , common sense bunch of people. By the time the next election is due in Scotland , all of the people living there will see this man for what he is.

They deserve someone who will work for their interests within the the UK. That man is not Alex Salmond.

[technophiles]

You are having a fucking laugh. The amount of shit Gordon Brown has dump to shit all over Scotland and out of those times, the amount of times Alex Salmond has stood up for us and seen justice. Moron.

[Brilliantcreem]

For your information ,I am not a moron nor do I pretend to be Einstein . I am not having a laugh . I,m far from perfect but I like to think I have good manners.

[technophiles]

Er, I never said you pretended to be Einstein. I just think you should become a bit more politically educated before you pass comments on our political status. Cheers. FYI, you can hardly call criticising the First Minister as "having good manners" love.

[beatityatube]

Fucking Nazis! Don't be fooled by this bunch. Consider the Nazi War criminal's son who is in the SNP government and happens to have come into many millions (how his Nazi father came into hsi fortune - who can say?). The fucking mind boggles. SNP = N still stands for Nazi. Fuck these bastards. Vote against them Scotland!

[ToulacAxeHand]

Have you ever read before?

Maybe read a manifesto?

maybe read SNP's manifesto?

Have you seen our Muslim MSPs, the only ones being in SNP?

You're either English, and unaware of how the politics in Scotland works, or you're blind and dumb.

[elkydosser]

dirty arrogant barstewards

soar alba

[alacas69]

Why should Scotland not have independence if the people vote for it? Why is nationalism a four-letter word for Scotland but when used in terms of the UK its not? If nationalism is not important in this new global era, then why not let the UK be subsumed lock-stock and barrel into a Federal Europe; I somehow think unionists would shudder at that prospect...double standards anyone?

[Constantine99999]

I am proud to be British. I cherish the traditions and peoples that make this country Great Britain. I have English Irish and Scottish blood, and regard myself as British. Salmond is a self seeking opportunist.

[Constantine99999]

He knows that `nationalism` is a non-issue, because the E.U `Federalists` have their own agenda for the U.K. I admire the people that make up the four corners of the U.K. You seem to have a pathological hatred for English. I feel sadness for you. My evidence, is the backdoor `E.U Constitution` that`s being ferreted through the doorway.

[Constantine99999]

Get real. What happens when the oil runs out? Will you Nationalists go running to the E.U for handouts? You live in a dream world, and your xenophobia is so worrying. I don`t have any issues with the Scots. I admire Scottish tradition and history. Can the same be said for you with England?

Anyway, this is the end of my contribution to this debate.

Think about it..

[alacas69]

The xenophobia seems to be alive in your mind; you are the one commenting about the political system as if it were a Scotland V England football match. I like the majority of SNP supporters and Scots in general do not HATE the English or anyone in fact. Again its quite simple, why is Nationalism a four letter word for Scotland and not for UK interests? It's a double standard. Scotland's finances are NOT all about OIL, although it's nice to have it in a world where it's in demand.

[alacas69]

"You seem to have a pathological hatred for English" You don't know me at all, and have no evidence for such nonsense. That type of statement that suggests you don't understand the real issues behind the SNP. It's not a football match. Scotland V England or some nonsense! It's a need to control our affairs to benefit the people who live here, which includes all types of nationality.

[Constantine99999]

What tosh! The Scottish parliament (aka talking shop) is well funded on taxes raised throughout the U.K. So tell me, how will Scotland fund itself as an `independent` under E.U sovereignty?

(The oil is running out by the way).

[alacas69]

All political parliaments can be classed talking shops, what a 'silly' statement to make. Yes similarly Westminster is funded also by taxes raised in Scotland, where is your point? The UK is borrowing money to fund itself and balance its books, many economists now agree that Scotland can finance itself if Independent and its not all about OIL, which is running out (like the world supplies), maybe 30 years if no new fields are developed.

[alacas69]

That's excellent that you feel that way, being proud in your country is good, however the fact is EVERYONE is different and there are many who don't feel like that, which is why many follow the SNP. Your feelings of Britishness and the statement that Alex Salmond is a "self seeking opportunist" are a Non sequitur and are hardly valid. I bet you have never once spoken personally to Mr Salmond and have instead based your bias on what you have read in press.

[Constantine99999]

Did one ever have to travel to Germany before WW2 to know Hitler was a tyrant? But to be fair to Salmond, he knows how to work an audience. The majority of Scots like the English do not want separation, only a few narrow minded people do.

[alacas69]

Again how do you 'KNOW' what the majority of Scots want, read it in the Sun did we? Opinion polls vary depending on the way the question is asked and the issue has not had a proper 'unbiased' airing in public without the usual unionist and Murdoch media bias and scaremongering. The Tories before Devolution and when Labore broached the issues of a minimum wage used Similar Scaremongering tactics. Many business leaders in Scotland are now in favour of it, things are changing.

[Constantine99999]

Helloooo! :-) The majority of Scots don`t want it. They realise the same as us English, Welsh and Northern Irish that it will benefit nobody apart from the SNP who have no intentions of removing Scotland from the E.U. How you can call yourselves `nationalists` is surely a joke? I`ll tell you this, if Scotland was going to pull from the E.U I would happily live with you in Scotland!

[alacas69]

Ad hominem attacks on the party leader and SNP supporters usually show the perpetrator has lost the argument or does not understand the issue clearly. Ireland is a Sovereign state and yet is a Member of Europe; I believe they are doing pretty well too.

[Constantine99999]

It`s all smokescreen and mirrors. The SNP haven`t any intention of pulling Scotland out of the E.U, and in the not too distant future Scotland (like Northern Ireland, Wales and England) will constitutionally cease to exist. All he is doing is creating animosity and hatred between the English and Scottish. There is no profit in this man to anybody. The only beneficiary will be err, Alex Salmond..

[alacas69]

Where is your evidence for such a statement?

[ScottishUnionist2]

the SNP are scum

[alacas69]

What a silly, childish, moronic statement to make. Over-generalised, labelling, nonsense!

[hafpipe]

I can't wait for Scotland to get it's Independence. I just hope we can get our freedom before we are over run by Southern Incomers. there might not be any Scots left in Scotland to run the country!

[Prd777]

The Independence movement is not about racism. You are racist. Fuck off. You embarras us all.

[Constantine99999]

What about foreign `incomers` or is that a different issue?

[rolandsausage]

Maybe Alex should have thrown a few bombs in England during the 70's then Brown-Nose might have said hello. Totally pathetic. Labour have spit the dummy coz the Scottish people are finally starting to wake up.

[joebobbatch]

you people are such fucking homos I hate all scotts let them burn George Bush is King dog WAT UP BITCH hhuh what you need yo

[majikdayin91]

Time has come.Stop bringing the scots down we've been told we are not good enough to run our own affairs while countries the size of ireland,Norway with a simalar population and even luxembourge the size of strathclyde prosper but oil rich and full of enterprenuers we're continually told this won't work and that wont't work.Scare tacticts. YE DON'T SCARE ME ALL YOU UNIONIST PARTIES! SAOR ALBA! TIOCHFAIDH ARLA!

[burslemboy]

im not shocked at all, he'd bore them to death..

[taig6338]

The fact of the matter is, most oil platforms are in Scottish waters, all clean water(ie no need for kettle filters, descalers) comes from Scotland. England will be stronger without the Scots, come on who are they trying to kid, plus the likeability factor of Scots thoughought the world and the hatred of all things english. ALBA GU BRATH, oh and we'll dig a trench along the border n sail away fae england wi the SNP.

[beatityatube]

Alex Salmond otherwise known as TWO CHEQUES has been conning the nation since May, he claimed he would not claim a salary for his MP seat at Westminster. Fact is he has not stopped claiming both salaries. Since becoming First Minister, Salmond has been on a wage of £155,279. This does not include his expenses which last year totalled £157,844. Salmond = greedy opportunist.

[alacas69]

Eating your words now huh!

[beatityatube]

How so asshole? He still holds a seat in Westminster and yet does not go to Westminster, and won't resign his seat. Is that fair on his constituents? He's an asshole who is still pocketing a lot of money.

[alacas69]

Ahhh, you have resorted to the depths of childish, moronic labelling...playground antics at best, which also sums up the rest of your comment. Ask his constituents; they voted him in with a good majority too. As for the salary it comes with the job, you are free to apply.

[beatityatube]

Actually asshole, they didn't know when they voted for him that he would later refuse to his seat at Westminster - when he no longer went there. He's an asshole and in the way. The SNP are a pathetic party with a Nazi criminal's son in their administration. Fuck them! No matter time will put things right, and the SCottish voters will give the SNP a much deserved kick in their Nazi baws.

[alacas69]

You are still at the moronic labels...indicative of your personality I imagine. In any case he still works for his constituents and an election is on the cards in a few months by the look of it. It's a shame you find it necessary to resort to that language, very emotive but ineffective. You have your vote and everyone else has theirs, time will tell, thus far I believe that the SNP have little to worry about come the election.

[ToulacAxeHand]

He's resigned his seat :-P

[Kilsally]

The Ulster Unionists have rallied against Ian Paisley and his DUP accusing him and his party of being Ulster Nationalists in cahoots with Alex Salmond`s SNP and the Weslh Nationalists and the Irish Nationalists of the SDLP & Sinn Fein to undermine Westminster.

[indigopw]

If Scotland were to become independent, England would become a stronger country. It's not just Scotland that is held back by the union.

[jmorrison230582]

Very true. Independence for England!

[Privetscott]

mon snp

[tarmagan]

If Labour carries on like this, we may not need a referendum. In fact, let us start working now to make the next General Election for Westminster a vote from Scotland for independence! Two years -- that is all they've got!

[alacas69]

The stronger Scotland becomes as a nation, the more likely Independence, thus it's in the interest of the Union and Westminster to ensure that Scotland does not perform at her best. Its time all right, time the people of Scotland saw through the facade of the Union and moved on. Independence would not be 'separation' as is often touted, but more like an 'annulment'!

[Constantine99999]

Oh come on! Most of our major politicians in cabinet are Scottish and the country is being run by a Scottish monopoly. Do they hate themselves and their own heritage to do Scotland down? I don`t think so. They are opportunists like the SNP. Your argument holds no water! Sorry.

[alacas69]

Who cares what Tory Bliar says or does after the Iraq lies and cash for peerages etc. As for Gordon Brown...well he may be the PM (gifted to him), but also looks set possibly to be the PM who will preside over Nu Labores demise.

[BlairSupporter]

Slimey, sneering Salmond makes me puke. There were NO CHARGES for the honours fiasco - which was a politically motivated charade set up by the SNP. They almost succeeded in bringing down a PM & the government over NOTHING. You lot should be ashamed. Iraq will also prove Blair right. By then you big-mouthed cowards might have sorted your nationality out. I'm Scottish, btw.

[alacas69]

Are you, how wonderful! Why cowards BTW? There was never any real chance of the cash for peerages inquiry really getting to the bottom of things, that would be 'just' and thus a non starter in today's political system. As for Iraq, you may say that from the comfort of your computer room; however tell that to the families of the slaughtered and maimed victims of that sad, expensive farce. I have read that Iraq is costing £2,678,000 per day; what a 'BLOODY' waste!

[BlairSupporter]

Wonderful that we are not all parochial nationalists! Cowardly - because you have the mouth but not the balls to see the larger political picture. (It's not all about Edinburgh!) You condemn those who have the courage to try to bring freedom and democracy to others. Iraq - WHO EXACTLY is doing the killing? People like you never answer this. We know who is PAYING in hard cash for trying to bring freedom & democracy: the "evil west". The true cost, if we all surrender, could be much, much higher.

[alacas69]

Utter nonsense. If you support the war so much, get a tin hat and head over, or are you too cowardly to do so...simply sit back and pontificate while others spill their lifeblood! Larger political picture, I guess you mean YOUR political picture. Who is doing the killing in Iraq; if you don't already know that, don't waste people's time with inane comments about it! People like me? LOL what a silly statement, you don't know me but instead appear to live on ASSumption and rhetoric!

[BlairSupporter]

I notice you still don't answer the question I asked about the REAL killers.The cause & effect argument DOES come in here, & some blame Blair for the effect.He may even do so himself.But as for "inane" - your insults show who is expert at that.I believe that people who sign up know it is not a rose garden and that they can't pick and choose.Like Blair, I don't believe they have died for nothing.Would sign up if I could.Can't unfortunately.

[alacas69]

What insults have I levelled at you? I have commented on your comments only, it is you however my fellow youtuber that stooped from the very beginning into 'ad hominem' attacks. "Slimey, sneering Salmond", "you big-mouthed cowards" etc. Don't sign up get over there and help out on a charity front then; cant see you doing that either, leave it to some other poor soul to be maimed and killed, easier to comment from the safety of your computer room huh? Real killers, arms dealers!

[BlairSupporter]

True, I did cast an ad hominem attack at Salmond in the same way as he constantly did in the Commons to Blair.Should have applauded his rubbing the index fingers together gestures! If the killers are the arms dealers, there is no hope or blame for politics, surely, as it's ALL out of our hands. Er, yes, we all have our purposes in life. Fighting on the front line, supporting democracy, withstanding evil. Just that we don't always agree on what is evil.

[alacas69]

Two wrongs don't make a right. I agree with you, evil is whatever a person decides it to be, just as one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. Iraq has turned into a quagmire of blood and misery and was avoidable. One thing is certain, someone somewhere is making tons of cash out of that miserable affair; rich business criminals who remain in the shadows and feast on the spoils paid for by the lifeblood and misery of our soldiers and the many dead Iraqis.

[BlairSupporter]

Lots of things in life are avoidable. I am relieved it wasn't MY decision to make in support of the USA. I might well have gone Blair's way then too. I think people conflate wrongly the results so far, with the purpose. Easy to criticise the mess the evil, (advisedly chosen) insurgents are making, when WE don't need to make the decisions. We just criticise with 20/20 vision.

[alacas69]

There have been occasions in history where countries have invaded other countries for various reasons and it has ended in a mess. With the lessons from history and the pool of minds available at the time, its hard to understand how anyone could not have envisioned the outcome we see now, especially when a country has such strong religious beliefs and culture. Many did advise against, sadly the trigger-happy and the financially ravenous had their way with political support.

[BlairSupporter]

You're right about the historical mess. It is clearly easier to defend than attack; the 'hearts & minds' easier to win. I don't believe Blair was 'trigger happy', though he has an interventionist approach which some despise, though it worked in Kosovo & Sierra Leone: i.e. the world is a SMALL, inter-connected globe. If we do NOT trust our politicians, and suspect they're all up to something, whose politicians are we going to trust? Or does anarchy rule, OK?

[alacas69]

I don't believe it was a purely political decision, I believe motives such as financial ones were as much a factor; forcing up oil prices, oil contracts and of course the vast sums spent on the military and the testing of new weapons and tactics in a live battle theatre. Irrespective of the motives people's lives are being lost and the world is not a safer place, terrorist threats are higher now than ever before and the resulting impact on civil liberties will be felt for years.

[BlairSupporter]

So the SNP will NEVER make 'political' decisions around anything to do with finance, eh? We'll see. Thank goodness someone is keeping our military capacity up to scratch. Or could pacifism win out in the end? I don't THINK so. People's lives have been lost for years where dictators rule - only WE don't hear about it, so bear no responsibility. Except that Blair thought we should - Kosovo, Sierra Leone. Civil liberties? Whose? The islamists who want Blair brought 'back in a box' from the ME?

[alacas69]

Some wars are needed; the battle or Britain for instance and pacifism would have done no good there. Again it's easy to talk about war from the cosy living room, not the same when you or your colleagues are 'turned to mince' by an IED! The UK is not the world police, the USA already 'think' they are! It's that type of attitude that makes other cultures mad at the arrogant Western powers and their idea that they somehow know best. The UK has enough problems to fix here at home!

[BlairSupporter]

OK, alacas69. You and I are evidently miles apart politically. So if you don't mind, I'll bow out. You can say you've won this little battle if it keeps you happy. I'm happy with that. Future 'battles' and 'wars' will be tackled differently, and by others, I'm sure. Not on YouTube.

[alacas69]

Its cool that people don't agree, its all part of life, I'm sure we will agree on some things and others not, maybe wars should be fought on Youtube instead of the battlefield so that the only injuries, if there were any, could be to peoples sentiments, which usually are far more easily healed. All the best.

[revjimbob]

Like all bullies, the Labour Party can't handle it when they get toppled off the top of their pile. Every slight to the Scottish Govt is being noticed by the people.

[eg428]

Gordon Brown doesn't even have the decency to appreciate that people in Scotland who support nationalism are part of a rich and varied spectrum of democracy that should be celebrated! He doesn't want Scotland to have a national identity, full stop.

[TopherT1979]

Sheer arrogant contempt by the Prime Minister as well the PM in waiting.

At long last, the true colours of "New Labour" showing themselves as the Anti Scotland pack of scaremongers that they have always been.

They are scared to death of losing Scotland.

The wind of changing is blowing.

[ibnakhtar]

That wasn't a very environmentally friendly car at the end there!

[Bubzz]

lol

[suzieanne22]

Shows Brown and Blair to be churlish and hypocritical. Not just an insult to Alex Salmond - it's an insult to the Scottish electorate.

[hughesm303]

Excellent work, Glen.

[CossieMoJo]

Churlish attitude from the future PM. His boss is no better - sitting with IRA men and then heading off to shake hands with Gadaffi - didn't he used to sponsor state terrorism and killed innocent Scottish people in their homes. I hope Mr Brown remembers he is a public servant and must work with the govt the Scottish public voted for. Scotland's not his own to do with what he wants.