how to juggle: "The Kraken" (and several variations)

[meshunderlay]

Hey there, so.... I've been working on two different 3 ball tricks recently, and I had a brilliant idea.... COMBINE THEM!....

Guess what happened when I did? I realized I was juggling this pattern with the throws and catches awkawrdly timed and positioned a little differently in the air.

[Morphae]

I feel like there should be some sort of on the back of the hand, stacken variation

[circusbj]

@Morphae For sure! Catching the hold ball on the back of the hand is totally doable. I think we were calling it "The Backen". After reading your comment I found that in the kraken you can catch both the hold ball and the ball that isn't the scoop ball on the back of the hand. It's difficult back of the handing the scoop ball because of the carry but you can tap it before you scoop it. I'll have to work on my back of the hand mills. Thanks for the ideas.

[ObjectManipulator55]

i finally got it! thnx man!

[eladet11]

those tricks are amazing!!!

especially the variation with the spin..

[LevessTwentyFour]

Release the Kraken!! =D

[prsbcrich]

isn't it just a half clawed boston mess? since it has 5 beats and all...

[prsbcrich]

@prsbcrich oh no, the balls don't stay in columns

[MrKoolTrix]

Okay.

[floyddango]

while most advanced 5 ball tricks are pure practise.. an advanced 3 ball trick is just a fucking complicated mess :D to get this shit into your brain ... :D it takes a while :D

[didgeboy287]

@floyddango Yeah, I'm just starting to get this trick down.  Mainly, my problem is keeping every ball the same height and keeping them from colliding. But even as I'm getting it, I'm watching my hands like "I have no idea what's going on."

[floyddango]

@didgeboy287

Funny, as this trick just didn't work I wrote my comment 2 weeks ago. And today after 2 weeks I tried the kraken again and actually got it down. Now I wanted to see wether it looks correctly and I just see your comment linked to the kraken tutorial^^ Well, apparently my kraken is correct :) .. Just have to perfect the throws.

[didgeboy287]

@floyddango I can make it through twice on each side there abouts before I drop. Glad to see someone else succeed. :) Speaking of complicated tricks, Rubenstein's Revenge looks interesting.

[meolox]

Thanks, great trick to learn after Mills' Mess.

[MrKoolTrix]

I can't find small play pit balls anywhere! :(

[mitchel129]

@MrKoolTrix Here in Germany I find many shops with small play pit balls. Here the bigger ones (80 mm) are rare.

[Idiosensory]

BTW thanks a bunch for this video, it's a great tutorial and a lot of fun to throw.

[Idiosensory]

I'm just curious--why does the siteswap even matter for this? I understand siteswap, but it doesn't really tell you anything about this trick. Why do people obsess over correct siteswap notations?

Also, I couldn't tell in the video but, the stacken looks very similar to what I have seen on the wildcats juggling site listed as yo-yo on both sides. I have also heard it called puppet master which I thought sounded better than yo-yo on both sides :0. Any idea where that one originated?

[JugglingTricks]

@Idiosensory yeah the siteswap doesn't really matter for this.. or for most 3ball tricks. Some people just like obsessing over siteswaps for no good reason in particular, haha.

There are alternate names for lots of tricks. I don't know where these tricks or their names originated from though..

[meshunderlay]

@Idiosensory Heya. The reason I personally had been concerned with the siteswap is because I find it's easier for me to learn certain tricks if the siteswap is known. For instance, when I was oringially trying to learn this trick, I was trying to do a 4 throw which makes it into a different trick, therefore it helped to realize that the original trick is simply all 3's.

For instance, the only real difference between reverse chops and takeouts is the siteswap. *shrug*

[aarontimebomb]

lol "The Stacken". i approve

[Pimkins]

@aarontimebomb

haha! my thoughts exactly. I approve of this comment.

[circusbj]

There is no 4. I made a mistake. I apologize. Mystery solved. Further speculation on the subject is redundant.

[JugglingTricks]

Holy crap!! No way! I've been doing this trick for almost a year now, and I always thought it was 42333! How could we both make that mistake?! I'm not sure if I even deserve to be called SiteSwapSteve anymore.. dammit!

[meshunderlay]

It's ok Steve, BJ, you're both still awesome.

If we never make mistakes, we never learn. At least that's what I tell myself to make me feel better when I can't get a trick... ^_^

[05barlj]

huh? 4?

[circusbj]

You're all correct there is no 4 and there is no 2. What kind of jerk posts on youtube without checking his facts?

[meshunderlay]

Hey, I didn't mean anything by it, I was simply stating/asking. Only because as a siteswap nerd I was trying to do the pattern thinking I was doing it wrong.

I meant no offense.

[circusbj]

You are in the right. I was calling Beejay a jerk for posting misinformation.

[meshunderlay]

Maybe I don't see it because it's too fast.

It really looks like just plain 33333 to me. I don't see the 4.

Sorry to be an ass. ^_^. Still, awesome tutorial.

[Draitube]

ye i thought so, looks like a mills mess + reverse cascade variation. i cant see any 4s

[YoungerCsillagpor]

perfect

[desideratoRdam]

very cool tutorial!!!!

[eMretsiM]

Coool! Awesome tutorial!

[Cilloquial]

Great tutorial! Nice and easy to follow!

[Wirthy14]

Awesome BJ!!

and congrats on winning the game of Juggle! :D

Thanks for the great turorial

[meshunderlay]

Awesome.

Never heard of / seen that pattern variation before. (The Kraken)

Good stuff, made my arms nice and tired before bed trying to learn it.

Thanks.

[5bJuggla]

Holy Perseus. If i am to learn any of these, I best get Kraken.

[TriWaZe]

SICK SICK S!CK SICK SICK lol

[thegoheads]

FIRST!!!!! buuahahhahahauahahahaaa