So ein Blödsinn - bis auf das HMM mmm etc. Wieso dreht er sich 2x. Will er dem bösen Gegner eine Chance geben?Der ist noch dämlicher, denn er nutzt sie nicht. Grundsätzlich versucht Super Wong Drehungen aus dem Tai Chi in eine SV Situation einzubringen.Stelle mir einen 60 jäh. Verteidiger vor, der sich erst 2x dreht und Beine zu hebeln versucht. Nein. Kurze Schläge auf entsprechende Stellen und ausweichen + nachgeben können - um eben wieder Schläge anbringen zu können - das ist WT oder Kampf
there are no chi powers^^. Simple physics can explain it. And after years of training your bones and muscles are different, same as reflexes. There is no chi. You can google it if you want
@Ixtzalit BS!!!!!! If that was true, why then is their the conception of religion? If what you are saying is true, there would be no such thing as religion. Where did you look up Chi? On wikipedia? I'm not telling you to believe anything, but try to keep an open mind. Yes, physics can explain a lot, but physics is only in this dimension. Think outside the box.
@celticbattleaxe Htas your opinion. I can clearly see that. And that are not only physics. I ve read about bone and muscle augmentation of martial arts sportmen. And religion is just a different story. Sry but its nonsense to speak about it in my opinion. I will not change my mind. There is no 'chi'.
@celticbattleaxe People believe that. People believe many things. But people who know about physics, the muscle augmentation and bones of sportmen dont blieve that.
@Ixtzalit well, that is like saying, there is no such thing as romantic love or friendship. You can say "years of training and practice" or you can say "manipulation of chi energy", the result is the same. I am a Deist btw. We believe in a Creator, but not divine intervention or revelation; we see God as the Watchmaker who wrote the laws of physics and then put it on autopilot, creating the universe and evolving life.
At University of California, Irvine, there is a Phd biochem professor studying tai chi and qigong - quantitatively. Changes in heart rate, blood flow, electromagnetic activity, photon emission, etc. i was at the lecture about two weeks ago.
eee (dot) uci (dot) edu/11w/14000
go down to "tai chi measurements 2/15/2011" under class powerpoint presentations
@TsangBokyan Yes, thats a part of the meditation. Meditations change the blood flow or heart rate, same as other sport disciplines. The only thing that i dont believe is that a Chi fighter can knock out a guy punching 13 tons in his face. Thats bullshit in my opinion. I saw K1 battles whre proffesional karate fighters fought against kick - , thai- or regular boxers. There was no chi. The better ones won. You can see alot of such battles on youtube.
Best martial art taught in ten seconds: Block, dodge, flank and strike. Just do this really fast over and over again then maybe you'll win a fight or two, maybe.
Incase thats not clear enough the purpose of all martial arts is to defend disable or attack. it's also used to train the body mind and prepare you against all circumstances so of course it is applicable in almost any situation.
It has also been proven to have great health benefits relating to a strong body good circulation increased stamina greater metabolisim and healing rate. Whilst reducing stress levels and increasing the ammount of endorphins in your body.making you happyer
stop spamming away about ring non ring this is a video a man has posted to advertise his lessons. not a debate on where tai chi can be used. I'm sure the master would be happy to tell you him self if he wasn't sick of exactly this type of arguement.
For your information tai chi is a martial art refined over 500 years and it is for self defense not entertainment. That being said Tai chi can and has been used to kill. But anyone thinking of training for that purpose has missed the point entierly.
How is MMA limited? Last I checked kung fu doesn't have a style when on the ground. MMA has a lot more style possibilities, for example. Jiu-Jitsu Greco-Roman Wrestling Muay Thai Karate Western Boxing Dirty Boxing Sambo Sudo Kempo Olypmic Wrestling need I say more?
uh. kung fu is a chinese general term for martial arts. There are many styles and they differ alot. however, no matter which style, they all include ground techniques. Some styles have a stronger emphasis of it than others. the bottom line is, good practitioners of kung fu don't become helpless if u get them on the ground.
mma is a sport, not something you will use in a street fight cause you can't touch somes parts of the body !!!
(so a good mma fighter isn't a good street fighter)
all the techniques ju jitsu muay thai etc...have been creat to be a sport
a game ...but the street is not a game it's serious so when you have to fight when you know the real kung fu who will use fingers head shoulder the inside hand and so on, mma is real sportmen or sportwomen...thanks
That's not true. You can use certain styles that are for MMA in a street fight aslong as you learn it at the right gym where it isn't modified. That's what seperates MMA and street fighting. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for example, i'm taking BJJ classes but the teacher doesn't teach modified BJJ. Once a week he teaches us what to do if we're in a street fight and how to utilize BJJ as a defensive martial art. Same with muay thai, you can use certain leg kicks to keep your enemy at a distance.
ok if you are aware if you are present you can make and will make some moves from bjj or muay thai but if you are fear of the violence of a street fight what happened???
Obviously i'm not afraid of violence if i'm sparring at my gym. You say you do kung fu but what kind? Kung fu is a general term for martial arts.
I agree that each style is limited and that's why you practice different styles. Obviously you won't use BJJ against a kick boxer. That's why i'm a BJJ, muay thai, Kali and greco-roman wrestling practitioner.
@pojo205 ummmm... you definitely CAN use BJJ against a Kickboxer as well as wrestling. I've done it. You CAN use kali against any one of them. Etc. You don't need to separate them in the way you do. The more you train, the more alike they all become.
i have practice karate kick boxing muay thai french savate and in the street i don't use this i do kung fu : i mean i play with my opponent i want nothing he want fight i want play
a style what ever it is is limited do this like this and always repetition a non style action is unlimited and i find it in real kung fu. think about it..read bruce lee books...just to see the difference thanks
pojo, difference when you fight in a ring with rules, ref & on a floor that gives.
Most martial arts were not designed for the ring. MMA people are not out to kill opponent though some look like they may if they get a chance. Majority of Martial arts is for self defence not for a long battle with a ref, if you hit the ground it would not be the same as MMA mat.
Self defence
Ring fighter
Street fighter
Warrior
These all have different mentality & training, fights not always one on one.
You can still use ring fighting martial arts in a street fight. You can't say a certain style is for street fighting or for ring fighting but not for both. Yes, some styles are very strict like Aikido. Being strictly self defense. but almost all styles have both an offense and a defense.
If each style was categorized then where would JKD fall into?
Because I know for a fact that it's street applicable for self defense. And I know it can be used in a ring.
pojo205, I did not say you cannot use what these people know in the streets, majority will win, they are in great shape & ready to fight, but the mentality is still very different than a street fighter that will not hesitate to pull your eye out.
Aikido is meant for peace time, not to go against a fighter, majority of them would lose.
I have seen many people train for years & they would not be albe to stop a street thug, that includes many in JKD.
@pojo205, My point is not to disrespect or make fun of. Your training & your mentality has a lot to do with who you are going to go against. If you dont understand what I am saying it is not hard to find out for yourself. If you are not ready for lfie & death, you have not trained for that, then you wont be ready when time comes to do so. Majority of martial arts practised in the world, they are not ready for kill or be killed, or to go in a wring to fight three 5 min rounds & last.
all the guys that watch MMA please look and rewind the move he just did to that student as he went for a grapple. As kung fu is way more powerful and fluid then MMA would ever be, sorry it's just truth.
a real fight looks more like this than anything i've seen in the martial arts word. you're not going to do brazillian jujuitsu on the street, karate lets everyone know you've been training, judo and aikido are the next smoothest things to do.
actually, ive noticed that one good kick to the testies works very well on the streets :3 not sure to which MA the honors of inventing that kick goes to..
You've been under a rock these last ten years. BJJ works rather well on the street. Karate and Judowill kick your ass, and aikido is pretty much useless.
i haven't been under a rock. i've kept up with the whole thing. i just would'nt take anybody to the ground on the streets. i grew up on the streets so everything i look at, i ask that question. that's just me.
you wouldn't do it because you don't know how. i grew up on the streets, too. Funny how that happens, huh? I don't need to ask that question, anymore, because I know the answer. BJJ works just as well on the streets as anything else will.
Yes, because all judo-style takedowns are easy to take, especially for people that don't know how to fall properly, right? Think again.
More than one person? if someone watches you slam their buddy's head into the concrete and dude is bleeding all over the place, you think they are gonna rush in for you? Most likely not.
But, either way, you find yourself running when dealing with more than one person, unless you like to get beaten up.
We both know the "grab my wrist" game that goes on in most aikido studios is a joke for use in the real world. Most Aikido sensei will be honest and tell you that aikido is not for use in a real confrontation. If you want to work out, and happen to like doing aikido, then that's fine, but really... it's not for any self defense; not the way it's trained.
(sry if my English spelling's wrong) well.. i feel very sad for u cause this is the internal work... it's the metal work.. it's not about grabing your wrist game,.. just to let u know every martial art has a powerful message in it....
@nomamao what the hell are you talking about i do train aikido and i also train muay thai and i believe aikido its a really intense martial art. i believe any aikido master will absolutely kick your ass
You place far too much stock in a system that's not even meant for fighting. Any aikido master will tell you that. You should really just keep up with your Thai Kickboxing and move along.
@nomamao you are an idiot sir. I don't think you speak for any martial art masters, especially those for Aikido, the only mastery you speak for is the mastery of ignorance and stupidity.
@anonymousbecause if you happen to believe aikido works for real world application without a compliant partner, you'd have to post some video evidence. Very little to none exists. have fun trying to find some.
I think the majority of armchair warriors should probably be shut their mouths. all martial arts work, you just need to know the roots of system (why they worked they way they did when they were made), their strengths, and then pick something up that helps strengthen the weaknesses in the martial art. So anyone arguing aikido doesn't work should ask them selves why is it taught to cops? They all work.
@anonymousbecause any serious aikidoka will tell you that aikido isn't for fighting. You ask the guy that trains you and they will tell you the same thing.
From what little I know about tai chi, this guy seems to have amazing form. Every move is total body power, he does not lose his centerline or his ground except for very brief transitional (quick) moves. Even then he seems to to a really good job of just moving his legs around his ground and keeping his back one.
What real tai-chi martial arts? There is a traditional Tai-Chi internal Kung Fu school right down the street from my house and this is almost exactly what they practice. Of course there is more instruction and practice than asskicking going on but this is only because they are learning. When applied in real life situations, Tai-Chi often loses its gracefulness to make room for practicality. I would rather defend myself well than get beat up in style!
if I'm not mistaken, they are forbidden to show off because pride makes them weak. Besides, Tai Chi is mainly for health and self defense. It's a rather painful martial art for young ppl without patience like myself :P This is just my own opinion.
yup, i personally agree with wut u said... actually not onle TaiChi is painful for ppl without patience, most traditional Chinese Martial Arts are the same, it requires unimaginable time, patience and heart to give in, so thats why some ppl say that Chinese Kung Fu is useless
I thought kungfu is one of the most feared martial arts? Before bruce lee, only Chinese were allowed to learn Kung Fu, so you have Bruce lee to thank for finally allowing other races to be able to learn it XD
It's like a quick breath-out. In some Fighting Styles (nearly all :D ) you have to make a breath out for a reason, like building up momentum and, of course, to breath :D I fought 4 Years Kickboxing, I had to do a "Ziss" .
It's like that scene from the film Airplane (the pilot in the airport), except this guy's trying to get his Sunday papers but he's constantly attacked.
i think when size becomes an issue in the fight, a different style of fighting would be used. i.e blows to the side of the head, joints, and then take advantage of the opponents mass to keep them from moving around to much. (big people can move to well in small spaces)But what about a massive person that was good at qigong?
Somewhat fake, and somewhat real. But my intuition says that there are no such things as fake in this world. Only copies that are improved and copies that are less useful.
As a matter of fact, this video brought light into the idea of turning tai chi into combat. Though his martial arts may be unusable in real combat(yet), he already proves to be of high potential in the arts. Once he masters the arts as a real combat weapon, then you can really judge him. For now, let the new master walk.
Hehee, nice. Atleast someone knows how to use tai chi in combat. People who practice tai chi as a self defense art should post more vids like that, so people would see that tai chi is more than slowly drifting around.
LOL Shi Fu Wong is not letting off now he, he. That music reminds me of wacky races the cartoon. I certainly like his Gong Fu - his outfit is quite cool and the man's stamina is very alive.
For those that don't read Chinese, 3xzq's comment says "This is 'fake' or 'false' taiji". I agree 100%. Master Wong might be a mighty fine external martial artist, but he doesn't exhibit the qualities laid out in the taiji classics.
I agree with you.but the classics also state that their is a tme to be hard and a time to be soft. Okay why does everything have to be related to sex?
Seems like a good style, but there are some of the techniques that leaves me a bit skeptical...Not to talk against it because I don't study it, but some techniques that give your back to your opponent aren't a bit dangerous? I can see how the leg techniques work and I can see that they do work, but is it necessary to give your back in some of them?
I like this Master Wong, and i have some of his dvd's. They are helpful to me. I have a saying, better to be tried by 12 that to be carried by 6. If some worthless uneducated rubbish druged up piece of crap tries to kill you, then kill them, do not worry about the law. In that moment of madness, the law will not be there to help you, only your training can help you, and the more you train, the more help you give to yourself. So remember, better to be tried by 12 than to be carried by 6.
Yes, but in some cases, even training can't save you from an assault, in many many cases of assault, it is better to just run away than fight them off. I'm a student of Jiu Jutsu, and even though I know a plethoras of disarmement techniques against blunt objects, knives and even fire weapons as well as techniques against fists and grasping...I would try them out only if I was 100% sure that I'd be able to pull them off.
Hmm! Seems to have a lot more in common with Chen or Shaolin perhaps than Tai Chi as its practised these days (Yang or Wu). Still looks effective as a fighting art.
Hmmm...yes you would practically use the momentum of your opponent but can it be done a smooth way or using the opponents force and take it back to him...i remember now the circle of taiji...there is the principle...
I thought that Taiji was the "Art of Softness" I can't see softness in that man...i see that his body is like a wooden post...or something...i want to Taiji combat in a smooth way soft but strong and the body was loose and supple...then for me that is Taiji...
Actually not in this case. Here Yang is the family name not the opposite of Yin. In this DVD Master Wong demonstrates the progression of tai chi by incorporating both speed and Fa Jin. Most Tai Chi is demonstrated at the slow (Yin in this case) speed for health and as a training tool. Incorporating explosive force is the development. However, he is displaying effort or strength but ideally the Fa Jing should be dropping body weight against an off posture foe either to strike or throw.
You see that a lot. Forgetting about quan "fist" for a second, what can "taiji / t'ai chi" be referring to? Is it "Great Ultimate", or "Great Extremes" or "Grand Poles", as in Yin and Yang? Why is what Westerns refer to as the "yin/yang symbol" called the "taiji symbol" in Chinese? Might it be that because the "Great Ultimates" or "Great Extremes" or "Grand Poles" being referred to are "Yin" and "Yang"? Hmmmm?
I do not think that it is because of the reference of yin and yang which makes Taiji "Great Extremes" what it is. I think what makes Taiji Great is because how two completely different elements (yin/yang, night/day, man/woman, hydrogen/helium) can come together and make things possible and amazing.
if you understand the principles, you will not be restricted to only the techniques in the form. once the principles of taiji has been grasped, any technique, anything, goes. that is TRUE taiji.
Tai chi practiced for combat is for real,i have tried to arm bar a tai chi guy with a bjj arm bar they are like rubber,the ligaments and tendons are so loose and relaxed,mma fighters should really explore the benefits of tai chi for combat,the internal power harnessed by tai chi experts is amazing,but it requires many long years of training if you want quick dynamic results this is not the style for you,
I noticed that he was using Strength, but that is a part of taichi combat. i never heard the 2 stroke thing. maybe there is something else mixed with it. I have never seen a taichi player fight and subdue anyone in two strokes (pushing hands does not count). But I am no master so..
He is using Taichi, Its just that Most taichi practicianer don't know much about fighting at all. When you fight using taichi you are supposed to forget the rigid form. The taichi movements are not unique, They are similary to movements in other arts. It is The way toward understanding the mechanics of movements that makes taichi unique. you can apply taichi principle to any art if you master the mechanics of YOUR body.
I didn't say that he what he used isn't Taichi. He use a mix of martial arts including Taichi. If it is pure taichi, the aim should be no more than 2 strokes to subdue the opponent with such stroke patterns. You do note that he used a lot of strength duriong execution.
I truly believe that it is impossible to "stay soft" in a real combat situation. Adrenalin will make it impossible to do so. He is showing how to take what you learn out on the streets. Too many people are drawn to the esoteric nature of the internal arts, but never learn how to really fight.
Yeah, it kind of sucks that some people into a "hippie" exercise program. It is an internal martial art first and an exercise program second.
But the real goal of Tai Chi, from my experience so far, is that if you are in a combat situation you would want to have a equal balance of hard(Yang) and soft(Yin). If you let the yang(hardness) take over, you can become rigid, block chi flow and the exertion of certain Fa Jing's that are essential to using Tai Chi in combat.
Taiji is not just for health and relaxation. Taiji is not just for martial art. You must have both elements. Many people stress fa jin because it's so obvious to the ignorant, but there are many other energies that must also be developed, such as ting jin and nian jin (reading and sticking), zou jin (yielding energy), hua jin (neutralizing energy), na jin (targeting energy), as well as fa jin (issuing energy) before one realizes the godlike stage of dong jin (understanding energy).
What you are saying is the truth. the taichi teaches you to relax the muscles so that the blood that is carrying the Adrenalin can be spread to all of the muscles, instead of being isolated to the organs and brain do to tight muscle constriction. When you have an excess of Adrenalin in your organs, you will feel sick to your stomach (butterflys) when you have an excess in the brain you will freeze up.Its not stayin soft, just remember to relax and your second breath will come quicker.
He make lack fluidity but the way he portrays tai chi allows more people to realise how destructive the art can be, althuogh the same results can be achieved without using so much external force.
master wong is good at applying the techniques in fighting, which even many proclaimed taiji masters can't do. His only malattributes lie on the fact that he's relying too much on his external physique and he lacks fluidity which many other taiji masters do have. One must have both (fluidity-meaning stay soft externally but hard internally- and practicality).
the chi part is actually superior kinetic linkage that comes from years of martial and qigong pratice. that has only been earned by blood,sweat and tears.
observe the K.L of new students to that of a master/instuctor, notice how doing techs or drills notice the "movement" of the tech.
isn't that more of other heavy energy martial arts of JKD, for taichi there's not many other ways when you talking about 'jair lake da lake'
i.e borrow strength to edmit strength
usually the original concept of taichi is to not attack first and to twist or swirl the enemies punchies till the energy/force dissipates.....watch the chinese tv show on youtube 'taichi TVB' thats the best concept of taichi when fighting
close your eyes and listen to the video... weird huh?
misterflashbang 2 days ago
he is good..
agustiawan100 4 weeks ago
So ein Blödsinn - bis auf das HMM mmm etc. Wieso dreht er sich 2x. Will er dem bösen Gegner eine Chance geben?Der ist noch dämlicher, denn er nutzt sie nicht. Grundsätzlich versucht Super Wong Drehungen aus dem Tai Chi in eine SV Situation einzubringen.Stelle mir einen 60 jäh. Verteidiger vor, der sich erst 2x dreht und Beine zu hebeln versucht. Nein. Kurze Schläge auf entsprechende Stellen und ausweichen + nachgeben können - um eben wieder Schläge anbringen zu können - das ist WT oder Kampf
DaiBangAdler 7 months ago 3
kaj se igrajo hehehee
CZ3ro 8 months ago
swear this man is also teaching wing chun lol........
i regconizes his voice
nicholas160 10 months ago
@nicholas160 He is lol
cerberus600 4 months ago
your hee , he , hem , he , plus your background music , sucessfully made my heart jump very fast
mrletspl4ygames 1 year ago
its krillin
Ryubusu 1 year ago
what does this guy not do?
TheAdrokk 1 year ago
@TheAdrokk Tai Chi it would seem is the answer!
Blackeyedog23 9 months ago
that last one was cool as
NewZealfighter 1 year ago
Very good moves. Moves that work guaranteed.
shinbooks 1 year ago
nice
wanshei 1 year ago
i feel bad for the dude getting dropped over and over and over lol
gustibank95 1 year ago
Bullshit... Taiji is not about fancy moves. This is like wushu.. or like a shaolin using "taiji moves"..
INDUSTRIAL3X 1 year ago
there are no chi powers^^. Simple physics can explain it. And after years of training your bones and muscles are different, same as reflexes. There is no chi. You can google it if you want
Ixtzalit 1 year ago
@Ixtzalit BS!!!!!! If that was true, why then is their the conception of religion? If what you are saying is true, there would be no such thing as religion. Where did you look up Chi? On wikipedia? I'm not telling you to believe anything, but try to keep an open mind. Yes, physics can explain a lot, but physics is only in this dimension. Think outside the box.
celticbattleaxe 1 year ago
@celticbattleaxe Htas your opinion. I can clearly see that. And that are not only physics. I ve read about bone and muscle augmentation of martial arts sportmen. And religion is just a different story. Sry but its nonsense to speak about it in my opinion. I will not change my mind. There is no 'chi'.
Ixtzalit 1 year ago
@Ixtzalit I'm not asking you to change your opinion, but I am telling you what I and countless others believe.
celticbattleaxe 1 year ago
@celticbattleaxe People believe that. People believe many things. But people who know about physics, the muscle augmentation and bones of sportmen dont blieve that.
Ixtzalit 1 year ago
@Ixtzalit well, that is like saying, there is no such thing as romantic love or friendship. You can say "years of training and practice" or you can say "manipulation of chi energy", the result is the same. I am a Deist btw. We believe in a Creator, but not divine intervention or revelation; we see God as the Watchmaker who wrote the laws of physics and then put it on autopilot, creating the universe and evolving life.
neutrino78x 1 year ago
@Ixtzalit
At University of California, Irvine, there is a Phd biochem professor studying tai chi and qigong - quantitatively. Changes in heart rate, blood flow, electromagnetic activity, photon emission, etc. i was at the lecture about two weeks ago.
eee (dot) uci (dot) edu/11w/14000
go down to "tai chi measurements 2/15/2011" under class powerpoint presentations
TsangBokyan 11 months ago
@TsangBokyan Yes, thats a part of the meditation. Meditations change the blood flow or heart rate, same as other sport disciplines. The only thing that i dont believe is that a Chi fighter can knock out a guy punching 13 tons in his face. Thats bullshit in my opinion. I saw K1 battles whre proffesional karate fighters fought against kick - , thai- or regular boxers. There was no chi. The better ones won. You can see alot of such battles on youtube.
Ixtzalit 11 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Best martial art taught in ten seconds: Block, dodge, flank and strike. Just do this really fast over and over again then maybe you'll win a fight or two, maybe.
pccadm1 1 year ago
i wish i had chi powers. =(
MegaSuxification 1 year ago 5
ha ha ha if this is tai chi i am robocap
they dont tense and move like that
OSAKONT 1 year ago
lol, i want to become the next avatar!
aglopser 1 year ago
how is called the Master
alexmiresan 1 year ago
Master Wong is the man!
PissedFechtmeister 1 year ago
bald
deadbackbone 1 year ago
if i close my eyes i think i'm in a crazy asylum or something lol. nice moves tho :D
Seirios86 1 year ago
what on earth are you lot nattering about?
This man is a joy to watch, would be so grateful to be his student. Love the shoulder barge!
thanks.
bodunchar 1 year ago
Incase thats not clear enough the purpose of all martial arts is to defend disable or attack. it's also used to train the body mind and prepare you against all circumstances so of course it is applicable in almost any situation.
It has also been proven to have great health benefits relating to a strong body good circulation increased stamina greater metabolisim and healing rate. Whilst reducing stress levels and increasing the ammount of endorphins in your body.making you happyer
nice vid sifu
QuiteDrunkOnGin 1 year ago
stop spamming away about ring non ring this is a video a man has posted to advertise his lessons. not a debate on where tai chi can be used. I'm sure the master would be happy to tell you him self if he wasn't sick of exactly this type of arguement.
For your information tai chi is a martial art refined over 500 years and it is for self defense not entertainment. That being said Tai chi can and has been used to kill. But anyone thinking of training for that purpose has missed the point entierly.
QuiteDrunkOnGin 1 year ago
this is very impressive but i dont think this is viable in the ring... let alone the street!
strongerthandeath666 2 years ago
mma is the worst thing, so limited!!! kung fu is unlimited so much possibility!!!!
lraf123 2 years ago
pojo205 2 years ago
uh. kung fu is a chinese general term for martial arts. There are many styles and they differ alot. however, no matter which style, they all include ground techniques. Some styles have a stronger emphasis of it than others. the bottom line is, good practitioners of kung fu don't become helpless if u get them on the ground.
rex1KILLER 2 years ago
mma is a sport, not something you will use in a street fight cause you can't touch somes parts of the body !!!
(so a good mma fighter isn't a good street fighter)
all the techniques ju jitsu muay thai etc...have been creat to be a sport
a game ...but the street is not a game it's serious so when you have to fight when you know the real kung fu who will use fingers head shoulder the inside hand and so on, mma is real sportmen or sportwomen...thanks
lraf123 2 years ago
That's not true. You can use certain styles that are for MMA in a street fight aslong as you learn it at the right gym where it isn't modified. That's what seperates MMA and street fighting. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu for example, i'm taking BJJ classes but the teacher doesn't teach modified BJJ. Once a week he teaches us what to do if we're in a street fight and how to utilize BJJ as a defensive martial art. Same with muay thai, you can use certain leg kicks to keep your enemy at a distance.
pojo205 2 years ago
ok if you are aware if you are present you can make and will make some moves from bjj or muay thai but if you are fear of the violence of a street fight what happened???
lraf123 2 years ago
Obviously i'm not afraid of violence if i'm sparring at my gym. You say you do kung fu but what kind? Kung fu is a general term for martial arts.
I agree that each style is limited and that's why you practice different styles. Obviously you won't use BJJ against a kick boxer. That's why i'm a BJJ, muay thai, Kali and greco-roman wrestling practitioner.
BJJ if they take me down.
Greco to protect against take downs
Kali if weapons are involved
Muay Thai if we're just throwing punches.
pojo205 2 years ago
@pojo205 ummmm... you definitely CAN use BJJ against a Kickboxer as well as wrestling. I've done it. You CAN use kali against any one of them. Etc. You don't need to separate them in the way you do. The more you train, the more alike they all become.
nomamao 1 year ago
@nomamao
Yay for someone one that actual knows something.
7eyedviper 10 months ago
@7eyedviper I've been doing Kungfu for ten years and have competed for at least 3 of them. I know all about how to get hit in the face hard. lol.
But, somewhere along the line I learned how to punch,elbow, knee, kick, break and throw.
nomamao 10 months ago
i have practice karate kick boxing muay thai french savate and in the street i don't use this i do kung fu : i mean i play with my opponent i want nothing he want fight i want play
lraf123 2 years ago
a style what ever it is is limited do this like this and always repetition a non style action is unlimited and i find it in real kung fu. think about it..read bruce lee books...just to see the difference thanks
lraf123 2 years ago
pojo, difference when you fight in a ring with rules, ref & on a floor that gives.
Most martial arts were not designed for the ring. MMA people are not out to kill opponent though some look like they may if they get a chance. Majority of Martial arts is for self defence not for a long battle with a ref, if you hit the ground it would not be the same as MMA mat.
Self defence
Ring fighter
Street fighter
Warrior
These all have different mentality & training, fights not always one on one.
ShorinRyuRonin 1 year ago
You can still use ring fighting martial arts in a street fight. You can't say a certain style is for street fighting or for ring fighting but not for both. Yes, some styles are very strict like Aikido. Being strictly self defense. but almost all styles have both an offense and a defense.
If each style was categorized then where would JKD fall into?
Because I know for a fact that it's street applicable for self defense. And I know it can be used in a ring.
You could even use Aikido in a ring.
pojo205 1 year ago
pojo205, I did not say you cannot use what these people know in the streets, majority will win, they are in great shape & ready to fight, but the mentality is still very different than a street fighter that will not hesitate to pull your eye out.
Aikido is meant for peace time, not to go against a fighter, majority of them would lose.
I have seen many people train for years & they would not be albe to stop a street thug, that includes many in JKD.
Try using Aikido in a ring, you wont make it
ShorinRyuRonin 1 year ago
@pojo205, My point is not to disrespect or make fun of. Your training & your mentality has a lot to do with who you are going to go against. If you dont understand what I am saying it is not hard to find out for yourself. If you are not ready for lfie & death, you have not trained for that, then you wont be ready when time comes to do so. Majority of martial arts practised in the world, they are not ready for kill or be killed, or to go in a wring to fight three 5 min rounds & last.
ShorinRyuRonin 1 year ago
all the guys that watch MMA please look and rewind the move he just did to that student as he went for a grapple. As kung fu is way more powerful and fluid then MMA would ever be, sorry it's just truth.
kenshinro7 2 years ago
This video is really funny hahaahXD, Nice backgound music though!
Fastdogg562 2 years ago
Wong time no seeeee!
Fastdogg562 2 years ago
a real fight looks more like this than anything i've seen in the martial arts word. you're not going to do brazillian jujuitsu on the street, karate lets everyone know you've been training, judo and aikido are the next smoothest things to do.
chebf1231 2 years ago
actually, ive noticed that one good kick to the testies works very well on the streets :3 not sure to which MA the honors of inventing that kick goes to..
veshkeat 2 years ago
lol
lordtains 2 years ago
You've been under a rock these last ten years. BJJ works rather well on the street. Karate and Judowill kick your ass, and aikido is pretty much useless.
nomamao 2 years ago
i haven't been under a rock. i've kept up with the whole thing. i just would'nt take anybody to the ground on the streets. i grew up on the streets so everything i look at, i ask that question. that's just me.
chebf1231 2 years ago
you wouldn't do it because you don't know how. i grew up on the streets, too. Funny how that happens, huh? I don't need to ask that question, anymore, because I know the answer. BJJ works just as well on the streets as anything else will.
nomamao 2 years ago
i would not takedown someone.. cause that limits movement,and if theres more than 1 guy ur fucked at that point
drinkbudyXD 2 years ago
Yes, because all judo-style takedowns are easy to take, especially for people that don't know how to fall properly, right? Think again.
More than one person? if someone watches you slam their buddy's head into the concrete and dude is bleeding all over the place, you think they are gonna rush in for you? Most likely not.
But, either way, you find yourself running when dealing with more than one person, unless you like to get beaten up.
nomamao 2 years ago
Nothing's useless.
lordtains 2 years ago
Not much to do if all you've got is a cake :3
veshkeat 2 years ago
aikido is good for play-acting.
nomamao 2 years ago
You've never done Aikido, how can you say something about it. Even worse, you're saying something about it and actually believing it.
Doesn't matter though. Your loss.
lordtains 2 years ago
all the wrist locks in the world don't make up for actual fight training. Sorry, your loss.
nomamao 2 years ago
Aikido is not about wrist locks. So there goes your point.
My loss in what exactly?
lordtains 2 years ago 2
your loss in actual self defense knowledge, IF all you do is aikido.
nomamao 2 years ago
shut up and listen... u only see wrist lock... but you cant see the internal work... and that why u say good for play-acting....
when u know it... u will not say it.... i bet u...
Xw0LveS89 2 years ago
We both know the "grab my wrist" game that goes on in most aikido studios is a joke for use in the real world. Most Aikido sensei will be honest and tell you that aikido is not for use in a real confrontation. If you want to work out, and happen to like doing aikido, then that's fine, but really... it's not for any self defense; not the way it's trained.
nomamao 2 years ago
(sry if my English spelling's wrong) well.. i feel very sad for u cause this is the internal work... it's the metal work.. it's not about grabing your wrist game,.. just to let u know every martial art has a powerful message in it....
Xw0LveS89 2 years ago
@nomamao what the hell are you talking about i do train aikido and i also train muay thai and i believe aikido its a really intense martial art. i believe any aikido master will absolutely kick your ass
guitaroon 2 years ago
You place far too much stock in a system that's not even meant for fighting. Any aikido master will tell you that. You should really just keep up with your Thai Kickboxing and move along.
nomamao 2 years ago
@nomamao you are an idiot sir. I don't think you speak for any martial art masters, especially those for Aikido, the only mastery you speak for is the mastery of ignorance and stupidity.
anonymousbecause 1 year ago
@anonymousbecause if you happen to believe aikido works for real world application without a compliant partner, you'd have to post some video evidence. Very little to none exists. have fun trying to find some.
nomamao 1 year ago
@nomamao
I think the majority of armchair warriors should probably be shut their mouths. all martial arts work, you just need to know the roots of system (why they worked they way they did when they were made), their strengths, and then pick something up that helps strengthen the weaknesses in the martial art. So anyone arguing aikido doesn't work should ask them selves why is it taught to cops? They all work.
anonymousbecause 1 year ago
@anonymousbecause any serious aikidoka will tell you that aikido isn't for fighting. You ask the guy that trains you and they will tell you the same thing.
nomamao 1 year ago
@nomamao Aikido's spiritual message is not for fighting, but the techniques are.
anonymousbecause 1 year ago
who said that when au r kicking you stay at the same pose? YOU can kick by the other leg while rotating in the air
ArutsuroTomohisa 2 years ago
great coriography
DANTHETUBEMAN 2 years ago
hem, hee, he, huah
poopNshare 2 years ago 60
LOL!
GeneralHanSolo 2 years ago
he he huh uuuuaaaaahhhuuu!!!!
Fastdogg562 2 years ago
huh huh huh huoooh!!
lol his sounds
lordtains 2 years ago
@poopNshare lol when i realized what you were writing it made me laugh so hard my dogs started biting me lol
gustibank95 1 year ago
i wanna fight him
yourM0th3r 2 years ago
he would kick your ass.
dackjaniels555 2 years ago
haha id like to see that
yourM0th3r 2 years ago
I would love to fihgt the Ouki. He falls to just about anything.
imanatural1 2 years ago
lol
Arrmazing 2 years ago
You go master wong
Bayhound184 2 years ago
combat tia chi my friends in europe pratice that, its hard core
furlong08857 2 years ago 2
i thot the guy in black woodah learned by kno XD
emoboynumber13 2 years ago 2
From what little I know about tai chi, this guy seems to have amazing form. Every move is total body power, he does not lose his centerline or his ground except for very brief transitional (quick) moves. Even then he seems to to a really good job of just moving his legs around his ground and keeping his back one.
ThirdEyeLight 2 years ago
you should know the real tai-chi martial art
kazenosensei 2 years ago
What real tai-chi martial arts? There is a traditional Tai-Chi internal Kung Fu school right down the street from my house and this is almost exactly what they practice. Of course there is more instruction and practice than asskicking going on but this is only because they are learning. When applied in real life situations, Tai-Chi often loses its gracefulness to make room for practicality. I would rather defend myself well than get beat up in style!
ThirdEyeLight 2 years ago 2
It is obvious that he is not internal. But at the same time their are not to many internal martial artist out their demonstrating the art.
Kepheri 2 years ago 6
I just had quick look on his YOUTUBE site
He is mixing other chinese kung fu
he got the tai chi form... but nothing insidE?
is more like hard form and some technic ~~~~~~!
lee2028 2 years ago
Well, he might be mixing in soft with the hard. I haven't seen everything.
minxlabrada 2 years ago
Some of those moves are pratical, the grapple throwdowns are awesom...he might do well in a mma tournament
rok30 2 years ago
yeah too bad none of the Tai Chi masters goes to MMA
BRCaonidaye 2 years ago
if I'm not mistaken, they are forbidden to show off because pride makes them weak. Besides, Tai Chi is mainly for health and self defense. It's a rather painful martial art for young ppl without patience like myself :P This is just my own opinion.
plovakia 2 years ago 2
yup, i personally agree with wut u said... actually not onle TaiChi is painful for ppl without patience, most traditional Chinese Martial Arts are the same, it requires unimaginable time, patience and heart to give in, so thats why some ppl say that Chinese Kung Fu is useless
BRCaonidaye 2 years ago 2
I thought kungfu is one of the most feared martial arts? Before bruce lee, only Chinese were allowed to learn Kung Fu, so you have Bruce lee to thank for finally allowing other races to be able to learn it XD
plovakia 2 years ago
Why he hu hu sounds?(:. Does not make any sense.
tezoAZ 2 years ago
It's like a quick breath-out. In some Fighting Styles (nearly all :D ) you have to make a breath out for a reason, like building up momentum and, of course, to breath :D I fought 4 Years Kickboxing, I had to do a "Ziss" .
KeijiXII 2 years ago
" Hi hi hi hi.", " Ah " LoL
Bobbisky 2 years ago 2
some of them look quite humurous actually :P
pingcheng 2 years ago
Music reminds me of Sonic the hedgehog.
log6778 2 years ago
I love this guy, he makes the movements look so easy
rudeboyg86 2 years ago 6
those are quite good moves, although there are some unneeded ones between them
but hey, its all about traditional techniques right?
RoyalKiD90 2 years ago 9
@RoyalKiD90 Some of the "unneeded" moves that were in this were actually breaks. He can't go all out on a training partner.
jrwellin 1 year ago
It's like that scene from the film Airplane (the pilot in the airport), except this guy's trying to get his Sunday papers but he's constantly attacked.
Good moves though. Love the videos.
simozonelayer 2 years ago
wonder how he would do angainst someone large in size, don't get me wrong the guy is skilled, but i wanna see him against someone larger than him.
suj123456789 2 years ago
i think when size becomes an issue in the fight, a different style of fighting would be used. i.e blows to the side of the head, joints, and then take advantage of the opponents mass to keep them from moving around to much. (big people can move to well in small spaces)But what about a massive person that was good at qigong?
DeathscytheGOD 2 years ago
Somewhat fake, and somewhat real. But my intuition says that there are no such things as fake in this world. Only copies that are improved and copies that are less useful.
As a matter of fact, this video brought light into the idea of turning tai chi into combat. Though his martial arts may be unusable in real combat(yet), he already proves to be of high potential in the arts. Once he masters the arts as a real combat weapon, then you can really judge him. For now, let the new master walk.
ytacc0 2 years ago
Hehee, nice. Atleast someone knows how to use tai chi in combat. People who practice tai chi as a self defense art should post more vids like that, so people would see that tai chi is more than slowly drifting around.
nabapoisu 2 years ago
too much hu hu.
tezoAZ 2 years ago 3
LOL Shi Fu Wong is not letting off now he, he. That music reminds me of wacky races the cartoon. I certainly like his Gong Fu - his outfit is quite cool and the man's stamina is very alive.
34thshaolinstudent 2 years ago 4
这是假太极
3xzq 2 years ago 3
For those that don't read Chinese, 3xzq's comment says "This is 'fake' or 'false' taiji". I agree 100%. Master Wong might be a mighty fine external martial artist, but he doesn't exhibit the qualities laid out in the taiji classics.
Ge1Ri4 2 years ago 4
I agree with you.but the classics also state that their is a tme to be hard and a time to be soft. Okay why does everything have to be related to sex?
Kepheri 2 years ago
:-D
Ge1Ri4 2 years ago
LMFAO!!!
BoxFreshNikes 3 years ago
ive only began my studies of the internal martial arts and i agree. i shouldnt even be watching this
lFHFReloaded2arby 2 years ago
i wonder what happens when sumone acually fights him back
giantpeniz 3 years ago 4
I have seen many Chi and Tai Chi before and this is a good example of Tai Chi
Fiftypence08 3 years ago
haha he looks like hes straining for a shit but otherwise pretty good lol
soleris12345 3 years ago
Seems like a good style, but there are some of the techniques that leaves me a bit skeptical...Not to talk against it because I don't study it, but some techniques that give your back to your opponent aren't a bit dangerous? I can see how the leg techniques work and I can see that they do work, but is it necessary to give your back in some of them?
irregularzero 3 years ago
I like this Master Wong, and i have some of his dvd's. They are helpful to me. I have a saying, better to be tried by 12 that to be carried by 6. If some worthless uneducated rubbish druged up piece of crap tries to kill you, then kill them, do not worry about the law. In that moment of madness, the law will not be there to help you, only your training can help you, and the more you train, the more help you give to yourself. So remember, better to be tried by 12 than to be carried by 6.
macktheknife888 3 years ago 6
what the hell are 12 and 6
TheSenseofTouch 3 years ago
Friend, 12 is for 12 members of a jury in a court of law. The 6 are the 6 man who will carry your coffin if you get killed, or die.
macktheknife888 3 years ago 3
Yes, but in some cases, even training can't save you from an assault, in many many cases of assault, it is better to just run away than fight them off. I'm a student of Jiu Jutsu, and even though I know a plethoras of disarmement techniques against blunt objects, knives and even fire weapons as well as techniques against fists and grasping...I would try them out only if I was 100% sure that I'd be able to pull them off.
irregularzero 3 years ago 3
Tai Chi is really beautiful. I'd love to see a friendly match between a master of Tai Chi and Karate.
Radjehuty 3 years ago
Hmm! Seems to have a lot more in common with Chen or Shaolin perhaps than Tai Chi as its practised these days (Yang or Wu). Still looks effective as a fighting art.
dmccavish 3 years ago
great!
universeseed 3 years ago
so many useful ways of counterattacking the opponent :P
lil5hit 3 years ago
the wonder of tai chi combat is the contrast to the relaxed movements--that they could use it with such rigour and mastery
its not a matter of counteracting the force of the opponent, it's a matter of going with the flow of the opponent, leading them to their own trap
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chazlilz123 3 years ago
mortal combat !
new91178 3 years ago
Hmmm...yes you would practically use the momentum of your opponent but can it be done a smooth way or using the opponents force and take it back to him...i remember now the circle of taiji...there is the principle...
partzchinchankimpang 3 years ago
i think he should fight kimbo slice ! theres a real opponant for him !
lwlwbwbw 3 years ago
I thought that Taiji was the "Art of Softness" I can't see softness in that man...i see that his body is like a wooden post...or something...i want to Taiji combat in a smooth way soft but strong and the body was loose and supple...then for me that is Taiji...
partzchinchankimpang 3 years ago
technically your correct but when it's applied in combat you use the opponents momentum against them forcing you to use a larger amount of force
haloman123123 3 years ago
The soft part of Taichi is the Yin. This is the Yang style of Taichi.
iiEatCrayons 3 years ago
Actually not in this case. Here Yang is the family name not the opposite of Yin. In this DVD Master Wong demonstrates the progression of tai chi by incorporating both speed and Fa Jin. Most Tai Chi is demonstrated at the slow (Yin in this case) speed for health and as a training tool. Incorporating explosive force is the development. However, he is displaying effort or strength but ideally the Fa Jing should be dropping body weight against an off posture foe either to strike or throw.
roborali 3 years ago 3
actually its "Great ultimate fist", hence the name (or its something similar)
karatemaster64 3 years ago
You see that a lot. Forgetting about quan "fist" for a second, what can "taiji / t'ai chi" be referring to? Is it "Great Ultimate", or "Great Extremes" or "Grand Poles", as in Yin and Yang? Why is what Westerns refer to as the "yin/yang symbol" called the "taiji symbol" in Chinese? Might it be that because the "Great Ultimates" or "Great Extremes" or "Grand Poles" being referred to are "Yin" and "Yang"? Hmmmm?
Ge1Ri4 2 years ago
I do not think that it is because of the reference of yin and yang which makes Taiji "Great Extremes" what it is. I think what makes Taiji Great is because how two completely different elements (yin/yang, night/day, man/woman, hydrogen/helium) can come together and make things possible and amazing.
Kepheri 2 years ago 2
WTH are you talking about?
singerwithkunai 2 years ago
if you understand the principles, you will not be restricted to only the techniques in the form. once the principles of taiji has been grasped, any technique, anything, goes. that is TRUE taiji.
lucidmist 3 years ago
Tai chi practiced for combat is for real,i have tried to arm bar a tai chi guy with a bjj arm bar they are like rubber,the ligaments and tendons are so loose and relaxed,mma fighters should really explore the benefits of tai chi for combat,the internal power harnessed by tai chi experts is amazing,but it requires many long years of training if you want quick dynamic results this is not the style for you,
rguz1 3 years ago 3
What tai chi style is this?anyone can tell me please?!!
mariano033 3 years ago
I noticed that he was using Strength, but that is a part of taichi combat. i never heard the 2 stroke thing. maybe there is something else mixed with it. I have never seen a taichi player fight and subdue anyone in two strokes (pushing hands does not count). But I am no master so..
Rasepreme 3 years ago
The demonstrator is using Taichi as a front. It is not full Taichi but a mixture of different martial arts.
denzuko1 3 years ago
He is using Taichi, Its just that Most taichi practicianer don't know much about fighting at all. When you fight using taichi you are supposed to forget the rigid form. The taichi movements are not unique, They are similary to movements in other arts. It is The way toward understanding the mechanics of movements that makes taichi unique. you can apply taichi principle to any art if you master the mechanics of YOUR body.
Rasepreme 3 years ago
I didn't say that he what he used isn't Taichi. He use a mix of martial arts including Taichi. If it is pure taichi, the aim should be no more than 2 strokes to subdue the opponent with such stroke patterns. You do note that he used a lot of strength duriong execution.
denzuko1 3 years ago
yea i was trying to figure out why he was putting so much strength into each move as well
Tuxun 3 years ago
Does anyone know a Yang tai chi, tai chi chen, or northern praying mantis trainer in or near St. Petersburg, Florida?
PRPWR 3 years ago
I truly believe that it is impossible to "stay soft" in a real combat situation. Adrenalin will make it impossible to do so. He is showing how to take what you learn out on the streets. Too many people are drawn to the esoteric nature of the internal arts, but never learn how to really fight.
jelqer 3 years ago
It's not difficult. It takes a great deal of practice that's why the internal arts are so difficult.
Ryooken 3 years ago
Yeah, it kind of sucks that some people into a "hippie" exercise program. It is an internal martial art first and an exercise program second.
But the real goal of Tai Chi, from my experience so far, is that if you are in a combat situation you would want to have a equal balance of hard(Yang) and soft(Yin). If you let the yang(hardness) take over, you can become rigid, block chi flow and the exertion of certain Fa Jing's that are essential to using Tai Chi in combat.
Scott200 3 years ago 2
Taiji is not just for health and relaxation. Taiji is not just for martial art. You must have both elements. Many people stress fa jin because it's so obvious to the ignorant, but there are many other energies that must also be developed, such as ting jin and nian jin (reading and sticking), zou jin (yielding energy), hua jin (neutralizing energy), na jin (targeting energy), as well as fa jin (issuing energy) before one realizes the godlike stage of dong jin (understanding energy).
Ge1Ri4 2 years ago
What you are saying is the truth. the taichi teaches you to relax the muscles so that the blood that is carrying the Adrenalin can be spread to all of the muscles, instead of being isolated to the organs and brain do to tight muscle constriction. When you have an excess of Adrenalin in your organs, you will feel sick to your stomach (butterflys) when you have an excess in the brain you will freeze up.Its not stayin soft, just remember to relax and your second breath will come quicker.
Rasepreme 3 years ago
I want to go help that man in black,,,,come on, who comes with me?
guotie 3 years ago
he good teacher he knows to many styles
he confuse wat to tell people he good teacher though i like his video!!! the best i ever seen so far good work ....u know any sanda kung fu?????
shua559 3 years ago
why concentrate on arms and legs when you shoul use your body? great show but external power
arb0gast 3 years ago
Would you say Matser Wong that Tai Chi is way better than JKD?
jeetkunejimi 3 years ago
He make lack fluidity but the way he portrays tai chi allows more people to realise how destructive the art can be, althuogh the same results can be achieved without using so much external force.
survivor9413 3 years ago 3
he may be using too much external power however, you wouldn't want to meet him in a dark alley :P
dragMANwoot 3 years ago
master wong is good at applying the techniques in fighting, which even many proclaimed taiji masters can't do. His only malattributes lie on the fact that he's relying too much on his external physique and he lacks fluidity which many other taiji masters do have. One must have both (fluidity-meaning stay soft externally but hard internally- and practicality).
NTNGUYEN 4 years ago 3
the chi part is actually superior kinetic linkage that comes from years of martial and qigong pratice. that has only been earned by blood,sweat and tears.
observe the K.L of new students to that of a master/instuctor, notice how doing techs or drills notice the "movement" of the tech.
(fuild and fast, effortless yet POWERFUL!
LibraryLies 4 years ago
This is a very personal style. The way it should be. A good movement is different for every single body.
monkfg 4 years ago
monkfg
isn't that more of other heavy energy martial arts of JKD, for taichi there's not many other ways when you talking about 'jair lake da lake'
i.e borrow strength to edmit strength
usually the original concept of taichi is to not attack first and to twist or swirl the enemies punchies till the energy/force dissipates.....watch the chinese tv show on youtube 'taichi TVB' thats the best concept of taichi when fighting
LAHrebirth 3 years ago
That's also what I thought: Don't attack, simply be and react in a proper way.
monkfg 3 years ago
Wheter in Taichi chuan or in Jujutsu, that is the secret to victory!
Feraydun 3 years ago