Why does Gergiev hold on to chords when they're not written that way? At the very end of the second movt, for example ( at 9.58) he holds on to the trombone/ trumpet chord so that it becomes about 2 bars longer. And at the end of the Finale he does the same thing again, adding a fermata on to the huge last chord so that it lasts about three times as long. And, for the OPPOSITE type of interference, check out the final bar of his Rite of Spring recording- the huge pause before the last crash
Because he likes it this way. It's music, it should be a living thing and a conductor at least should be allowed a little freedom. If not you end up with music being static and boring, and honestly there could be nothing worse and totally pointless as boring music. So I would say enjoy the freedom and variety...
@marckaptijn1 Oops, apologies for getting the wrong orchestra- I think both the Concertgebouw and the Rotterdam are outstanding. But I still hate the sort of distortions that Gergiev likes so much. Why doesn't he trust the composers ? I know it excites the groundlings, but it just betrays a banality in his 'interpretation' as far as I'm concerned.
First time i was aware of this piece was on Isao Tomita's Electronic Masterpiece, The Bermuda triangle....I urge everyone to hear that version...It will give you goosebumps
@Rockabilly500 Yes. But, explaining myself would be pointless because nothing will probably change your mind. So, I don't know why I posted anything in the first place. Enjoy the illusion of DCI musicality.
@mariomario987 Wow, man. How about you come off it and let people enjoy their music? I'm sure you're a PhD. in music and could tell me all about how I'm wrong for enjoying the passion that is radiated out from a particularly amazing DCI performance. I guess hundreds of young and talented musicians coming together to put out the best performance they possibly can means nothing in the world of music.
I heard this live, about 10 years ago in the Concertgebouw in Amsterdam with Gergiev! MG, I really almost fell off the balcony for sheer excitement and tension! The effing best performance ever of this piece!!!
Listen 0:30 and 0:55! Most interesting, impressive, powerful and exciting is the beginning of the first part of this suite. Also the whole second part.
@organboi Haha- I think you'll find that the 'out- of-tuneness' you are hearing, and obviously finding disagreeable,
is called dissonance, and,( get this), the composer wrote it like that .... on PURPOSE! The orchestra, by the way, is the great Concertgebouw- fegarded as one of the world's top orchestras, if not the greatest- and I agree
@marckaptijn1 the new york philharmonic was 2 orchestras that merged the new york symphony and the damerosh orchestra they have been calling the boston symhony that since the 1800s
This is kinda like a calmed down version of rite of spring.
Nobodyknowsme021 4 days ago
Why does Gergiev hold on to chords when they're not written that way? At the very end of the second movt, for example ( at 9.58) he holds on to the trombone/ trumpet chord so that it becomes about 2 bars longer. And at the end of the Finale he does the same thing again, adding a fermata on to the huge last chord so that it lasts about three times as long. And, for the OPPOSITE type of interference, check out the final bar of his Rite of Spring recording- the huge pause before the last crash
paulybarr 8 months ago
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Because he likes it this way. It's music, it should be a living thing and a conductor at least should be allowed a little freedom. If not you end up with music being static and boring, and honestly there could be nothing worse and totally pointless as boring music. So I would say enjoy the freedom and variety...
marckaptijn1 5 months ago
@marckaptijn1 Oops, apologies for getting the wrong orchestra- I think both the Concertgebouw and the Rotterdam are outstanding. But I still hate the sort of distortions that Gergiev likes so much. Why doesn't he trust the composers ? I know it excites the groundlings, but it just betrays a banality in his 'interpretation' as far as I'm concerned.
paulybarr 5 months ago
la mia preferita da sempre...
flammadiddle 9 months ago
E pensare che questo lavoro fu l'esordio di Prokovieff
967Capricho 1 year ago
dance of the pagan monster on the graves of mankind - important to face the monster and transform it or we are all goners
flowforms 1 year ago
dance of the pagan monster on the graves of mankind -
flowforms 1 year ago
@flowforms the sythians were barbarians watch the movie the vikings
spacepatrolman 3 months ago
First time i was aware of this piece was on Isao Tomita's Electronic Masterpiece, The Bermuda triangle....I urge everyone to hear that version...It will give you goosebumps
SpacedHaitian 1 year ago
I don't get why I like this. A year ago, I would have hated it. :)
Flutist11 1 year ago
since 0:00 to 2:30 aproximately it's indicated on the score as Allegro Feroce, right?
Arghier 1 year ago
elp did a great cover of the second movement in this song
MUYA123SLAYER 2 years ago
phantom regiment '06 ;)
Rockabilly500 2 years ago 15
@Rockabilly500 except this is actually music
mariomario987 2 months ago
@mariomario987 Implying that Phantom Regiment does not play beautiful music.
Rockabilly500 1 month ago
@Rockabilly500 Yes. But, explaining myself would be pointless because nothing will probably change your mind. So, I don't know why I posted anything in the first place. Enjoy the illusion of DCI musicality.
mariomario987 1 month ago
@mariomario987 Wow, man. How about you come off it and let people enjoy their music? I'm sure you're a PhD. in music and could tell me all about how I'm wrong for enjoying the passion that is radiated out from a particularly amazing DCI performance. I guess hundreds of young and talented musicians coming together to put out the best performance they possibly can means nothing in the world of music.
Rockabilly500 1 month ago
Very organic, unlike the rite of spring, More melodic, despite its "wildness"
dajohnthomas69 2 years ago
I heard this live, about 10 years ago in the Concertgebouw in Amsterdam with Gergiev! MG, I really almost fell off the balcony for sheer excitement and tension! The effing best performance ever of this piece!!!
k6l11h58 2 years ago 2
Listen 0:30 and 0:55! Most interesting, impressive, powerful and exciting is the beginning of the first part of this suite. Also the whole second part.
AchJenkins 2 years ago
First heard it and loved it in Phantom Regiment's 2006 show. Sounds way different going from a corps to an orchestra but still amazing.
Marine8133 3 years ago
I did a marching band show on this!
JmanRomania 3 years ago
this orch is out of tune way too much.
organboi 3 years ago
@organboi Haha- I think you'll find that the 'out- of-tuneness' you are hearing, and obviously finding disagreeable,
is called dissonance, and,( get this), the composer wrote it like that .... on PURPOSE! The orchestra, by the way, is the great Concertgebouw- fegarded as one of the world's top orchestras, if not the greatest- and I agree
paulybarr 8 months ago
@paulybarr Actually the orchestra is the Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra and u just insulted the Rotterdam pride... lol
marckaptijn1 5 months ago
@marckaptijn1 the new york philharmonic was 2 orchestras that merged the new york symphony and the damerosh orchestra they have been calling the boston symhony that since the 1800s
spacepatrolman 3 months ago
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marckaptijn1 2 months ago
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marckaptijn1 2 months ago
@spacepatrolman Well, that's just dandy... happy for you... :-)
marckaptijn1 2 months ago
This Prokofiev's "Rite of Spring". Fantastic. Fantastic performance.
Opoczynski 3 years ago
didnt stravinsky write rite of spring?
rossman181 3 years ago
I mean this is Prokofiev's response to Stravinsky's Rite of Spring.
Opoczynski 3 years ago 3
oh i didnt know that, cool! thanks for the little peice of knwoledge :P
rossman181 3 years ago
listening the tempo... all violinists who play this piece are actually people with cybernetic arms to be able to have hte stamina.
dxhaloxc 3 years ago 9
@dxhaloxc 00:48 this part sounds like chinese jazz they call this the poor mans right of spring
spacepatrolman 3 months ago
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they um screwd up the rythum at the biggining...
btw im playing this in orchestra this year
CelloGod295 3 years ago
Good that the trombones re-organized the rhythm of the entire orchestra in the beginning...
Oswalda13 3 years ago
One of the most powerfull pieces I've ever heard!!
geir86 3 years ago