My Nuke Mod (v1.1) for Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance

[F0ulimm]

hello and sorry for the stupid question, but in who come the file exactly?

[F0ulimm]

@F0ulimm Ok have this. thanks for the Mod

[KokiStar11]

how do you make amod?? PLEASE HELP

[lukaszpro1993]

TRUE NUKE OF RTS GAMES !!!!! :D

[iZahik]

I think this is a very useful mod :D nukes should be this devastating

[JPEXALTRA1]

I do not get this mod at all. What is special about it?

[Ntalikeris666]

@JPEXALTRA1 Why don't you ask the description?

[ThePandemic101]

@Ntalikeris666 How do I drop a nuke with the t3 strategic bomber?

[ronaldli5]

I really don't see why NO ONE on the internet comments on why 82.5mins is needed to make one fucking strategic missile launcher ??? I DONT HAVE THAT MUCH FUCKING TIME IN MY HANDS WHEN A MISSILE IS ONLY 10% OF WINNING THE ROUND! WHAT THE FUCK? Can someone please tell me why this is fucking so.

[Ntalikeris666]

@ronaldli5 The only thing i can tell you, is that in Skirmish and Multiplayer (in Forged Alliance) Nuclear Missile Launchers take 10 minutes to make, and that if you only use one engeneer.

Happy?

[ronaldli5]

@Ntalikeris666 but it was 82.5 mins in the first campaign mission when i was a cybran. and i couldn't set up m forcce even after 1 hr.

[Ntalikeris666]

@Ntalikeris666 Yeah i know the campaign build times are a whole different story.

[Szasz0407]

@ 4:33

The chief engineer of that saucer just went to the bathroom and forgot to shovel some more coal into the engine.

It has, you know, just fallen down. :)

[Kyronea]

Holy Jesus Fuck! I thought the radii in the original were large for an RTS, but this? This is...this is quite frightening.

[dejvid213]

where is the mod folder i cant find it is it because i have downloaded supreme commander forged alliance on the pirate bay or do i need to make an mod folder in

C:/program files/THQ/Gas Powered Games/Supreme Commander - Forged Alliance

[WolfytheWolf5667]

0:55

Those shield's didn't help in the slightest.

[vAndyyyxD]

SupCom2 Nukes suck!

[11Thefuture]

this is impressive

[gamerty5]

so epic when you show how it looks on ground aeon are on drugs and like lights holy night

[gamerty5]

so epic when you show how it looks on ground

[joshua41175]

u shoulda used one that wasnt ur experimental for seraphim

[Ntalikeris666]

@joshua41175 At the time i made V1.1, the Regular Seraphim nuke was not tweaked at all, so i did not show it. Now that 1.5 is WiP, when in Release it, i will make a video, of the new features.

[joshua41175]

@Ntalikeris666 still really cool i like the shock wave

[Huzegun]

Just letting you know you are such a turtle.

[Ntalikeris666]

@Huzegun Partially true :-)

But when it comes to the vid, the bases i made are just there to be demonstrate the radius of the nuke, and basically if you examine then the structure paterns make absolutely no sense.

[megawtfmusic]

BUT my forged alliance HASNT a MODS folder...what ??? how do i do that ?!?!??!

[Ntalikeris666]

@megawtfmusic 2 ways:

First of all, the Read Me file exists for a reason

Second, if you dont have a Mods folder in the directory Of your FA, create one.

[megawtfmusic]

@Ntalikeris666 haha oh...ok thxxxx

[Ntalikeris666]

@megawtfmusic NP ;-)

[megawtfmusic]

HEY HOW DO YOU DO THAT ???????? PLSSSSSSSS

[Ntalikeris666]

@megawtfmusic

How do i do what?

[megawtfmusic]

@Ntalikeris666 make mods ? or didnt you do that ??

[megawtfmusic]

@Ntalikeris666 aaaah nothing ;)

[Ntalikeris666]

@megawtfmusic

;-)

[shady1943]

it would be better to test-detonate on a location without any volatile units/structures....or else the true effect of the bomb is somewhat unclear

[Ntalikeris666]

@shady1943

The whole mod is about changing the behaviour of the nuke not its effect.

[1987Andreas]

@shady1943 how does the effect get clear when u have nothing to blow up?

[Earthplayer]

Is it possible to change the size of the explosion animation? Which value do I have to add/modify (I'm new to .lua editing

[Ntalikeris666]

@Earthplayer

Yes, it is possible to do so, but i am not sure where and which parameters you have to change to mod it.

[Earthplayer]

@Ntalikeris666

thanks

[Earthplayer]

Btw is it possible to create a "third" ring to the already existing 2 damage rings of a nuke? And if yes it is possible to add a stun effect to it and make it 50% larger than the outer damage ring? so enemies far away of the explosion which are just hit by the shockwave wouldnt receive any damage (or at least just 2% of the damage they take in the middle of the explosion) but get stunned for about 10 secs. due to the falldown causing radio signal loss for a short time.

[Ntalikeris666]

@Earthplayer Unfortunately, the game features 2 damage radiuses. The Inner and the Outer. What i have done, is, that in the vicinity directly beneath the Nuke (imagine an area the size of the fireball) everything recieves damage instantly, and is annihilated like in a real nuke. Then , the outer radius, starts where the inner ended, and progresses dealing with a particular amount of damage. As far as i am concerned, you cant make a third damage radius.

[Ntalikeris666]

@Earthplayer The only thing i can do, is to make the inner radius a lot larger, and decrease its damage to something like 500 or so, and then make the other radius follow the shockwave. Though, if i do so, the buildings directly beneath the nuke, will not be destroyed instantly. I Had a really hard time syncronizing the outer radius with the visual effect of the UEF nuke, and still its not perfect.

[Earthplayer]

@Ntalikeris666

kk, will you make a version 1.5 or is this the final? :) I would love to see a stun effect for 10 or 15 seconds ontop of the damage so the surviving units wont look like they just got hit by a normal weapon but by a devastating one. (in my opinion it would be a normal effect if an experimental gets hit that hard that it's reactors and engines fail for a few moments after collide with the shockwave).

[Ntalikeris666]

@Earthplayer Well, adding effects is another story. There are many things which I consider possible for an upcoming release. For example, a good idea is an EMP blast that affects a huge radius for 30 seconds or so, and another more difficult idea, is to make the damage progressive. (so that as the shockwave expands, the damage dealt gets lesser and lesser, but something like that is not that easy to implement. I am not even sure if it is possible in the particular game.)

[Ntalikeris666]

@Earthplayer Though be aware that I want my mod to be relatively Balanced. (Defence has been tweaked and so on) so I cant make dramatically large radiuses.) Also having a nuke that does a little damage at a large radius (your initial idea) can bring out problems such as, Power Plant explosion chain reaction, in a way that the oponent base will be decimated by his own buildings (unfair) , or having a radius that goes beyond the one of the anti nuke, so you can infact destroy it.

[Earthplayer]

Oh my gosh awsome O.O Will this mod work with the newest patch? If yes I will search my game DVD again and reinstall this game :D

[Earthplayer]

@Earthplayer

Nevermind, works like a charm, also seems to work fine with 4th dimension ^^

[Ntalikeris666]

@Earthplayer

Thanks a lot for your comment!

Though, double check the 4th dimention thing, cause, if i remember correctly, all nuke explosions looked the same when i combined these two mods.

[Earthplayer]

@Ntalikeris666

Used a modmanager and loaded your mod as last so every thing before gets overwritten.

[xxh4ny0uxx]

Strategic Launch Detected

-Hunker you fuckin transformer wannabe!-

(in this scene you survive the blast with 100 hp)

ssssstttrrraaaaatteeeeeeegiiii­iiccc launch DETECTED

-awwww fuck!-

[Jrhoney]

Woot! Nuclear weapon testing FTW!

[PrototypeU41]

wow that was beautiful, they should have this nuke on SC2...instead of the dinky ones they have

[MultiVAJJ]

and thats how fallout 3 was made

[VeryBigLama]

lol at the tags

[manhunt2walkthrough]

wow looks awsome^^ 5*

[Infernalicon]

PREPARE FOR NUCLEAR ATTACK...

[GearsGod280]

You fucking suck at this game

[Ntalikeris666]

@GearsGod280

You fucking suck at understanding what you see.

[NHCPmn]

@GearsGod280 how does he suck at the game?

[DutchPromethean]

Whats the fun of spamming nukes all over the map...

Lets see how you like to be nuked!

[Ntalikeris666]

@DutchPromethean

I really dont get your comment :/

[Bleeps88Productions]

@DutchPromethean err well it takes a lil while to get teh nuke and lol its for fucking around obviously if u dont liek watching your enemy die in a nuclear fire well then thats not our problems so just buckle down have some pepsi (Coke if thats what you like) and watch some good ol fashioned pornography :3

[fatrat600284]

This mod is made of win.

[DoomKnightTGS]

Akoma ta lipame ta nhsakia XD

[Ntalikeris666]

Hahahahaha xD

[rtsownage]

Never turning off that mod again <3

[Ntalikeris666]

@rtsownage

Hehe !

I am glad you like it ;-)

[Georgeowns]

One question does this not make Seraphim expertimental nuke useless?

[Ntalikeris666]

of course not. Its evem more powerful than it used to be.

[Georgeowns]

oh sorry i didnt think you moded that one

[predatorhonorguard]

@Ntalikeris666 well, it does do 1,000,001 damage already so do you mean it has a larger diameter?

[Ntalikeris666]

Yes, it has a wider radius. I did that to make it more different than the other nukes.

[rtsownage]

Respect.

[zanathron]

holly shit that last one was bad ass...

[Jishiro]

Nice mod and great video.

But I was wondering, did you change the nuke animations for the different factions? Or are these the ones that are from the game itself? Cuz when I'm playing I don't notice any difference from the 3 human factions nukes. And when I watched this video, i noticed that they are a bit different.

Thanks.

[Ntalikeris666]

OOps, sorry my bad i did not get the message correctly. If you are saying that all the 3 faction human nukes look the same, you will have to reinstall the mod. Delete your mods folder, run the game once with no mods, and then, remake and install the mod and everything will be fine.

[Jishiro]

Ok, I discovered that a mod called '4th dimension' was the one causing the glitch and not this mod. Apparently, that mod turns all nuke missiles into UEF missiles. :(

[Ntalikeris666]

Oh i see. Its not the first time this happened. It seems that after all my Mod is not compatible with 4th dimension. But naturally 4th dimension does not change the effects of the nukes. It seems that together with my mod, things get confused. :S

[Sharkoon1000]

i think the AEON nuke is the strongest ...

[Ntalikeris666]

all are the same except for the Seraphim one. (for balance issues)

[PSChrisDC]

sorry but i do not see any differences...

but i think the radius is bigger....maybe

[Ntalikeris666]

There are not any visual differences. The Nuke effects (meaning the results of the explosion) are totally altered.

[PSChrisDC]

um.... allright^^

(i google the word "altered" shame on me for my bad english) xD

by the way: the bases are sweet... but my base-building-style is different^^

... i havent found the perfekt nuke mod yet :( i want to have an extreme epic super nuke bomb... the radius should not change so much. but the visual style should look more powerfull

[Ntalikeris666]

Hehe XD

There is a guy who is preparing a mod like the one you describe. I have tried as well, but making a mod is far from easy .

THough i dont know when he is going to release it. I suggest you wait for SupCom2

[PSChrisDC]

good to know.. of course it is not easy to make a mod like that.. i cannot even make a map on an editor (well ok but hardly^^)

supcom 2 is coming out on march isnt it?

btw: who's that guy? O.O?¿

[Ntalikeris666]

Yea i see.

SupCom2 Is coming out on 2010, but there is not a specific release date yet.

That guy is in GPG Net and his nickname is "Lopus"

[PSChrisDC]

ok... link?

why do i answer so late and you do so early? im too slow xD

o found avid (sth with "biggest nuke")

just look at my history on my site...

[Eagle0600]

Read the description. It's a complete re-balance of the nuke system. Not just the nukes themselves.

[SpamtaroFTW]

Hey thats very neat! the seraphim nuke and cybran nuke i thought rocked!

[Ntalikeris666]

Thanks a lot :-)

[Ntalikeris666]

Yea, sometimes music might ruin a video.

Thanks ;-)

[Ntalikeris666]

Ok thats fine!

In order to get a Nuke silo you have to upgrade your factory/commander to Tech3. After you upgrade to Tech3 get an engineer and start building the Strategic Mussile Launcher. Though you need resources to do so. After that, when the nuke is ready you will be able to launch it.

[Ntalikeris666]

If you have installed it correctly (just put it in your mods folder) enable it in the mod manager, and then just play the game and build a Nuke silo. After you do that just fire a nuke and you will see :-D

[TheKing170591]

What is this for a Nuke Mod this Nukes are normally in game before this Mod sry what for ma Mod???

[Ntalikeris666]

Nope. You are wrong. The nukes are ingame, but they are not doing that much damage. The radius of the nukes in the mod is increased, and i also tweaked some other stuff, so that they act (NOT LOOK) more like a real nuke. The range of the anti nukes is also increased, so that the game is balanced and i also tweaked build times and costs.

[niceboar]

yay

[majormattxx1]

I like this mod and thats all i wanted to say

[RastiMinato]

Nuke mod?

Nao plz? :(

[Ntalikeris666]

I was away for the week. :-/

[RastiMinato]

ohhh, i see.

[niceboar]

Still not done?

[Ntalikeris666]

Sorry for delaying, there has been an issue with my PC but fortunately i have saved the mod in an external drive so i will be able to upload it.

[niceboar]

oh okay cool

[Ntalikeris666]

New mod Ready!!!

Check description

[niceboar]

link's dead

where can i get it?

[RastiMinato]

He will upload version 1.3 soon if I´m not mistaken about what he says. ;)

[Ntalikeris666]

you are not mistaken at all !

[RastiMinato]

Just as I 'thought'! =P

[Ntalikeris666]

not really....

[Oeszilee]

i adore this game:)

[Etragan333]

That camera angle at 2:00 is badass. Missile defense still works against these correct? Will any amount of shields work? Also, for the Seraphim did you use one of their nukes or their experimentals? Do they both get the bonus?

[Ntalikeris666]

Yea its cool!

OF course, the missile defence is now recalibrated for the updated nuke ( Bigger radius) so the game is balanced.

The seraphim nuke seen in the vid is the experimental one.

[noscoper45]

two words holy shit

[bryce1029]

the SERAPHIM  was the best one!

[RastiMinato]

deadend broken?!!?

or "just" another project?

[Ntalikeris666]

i am just making some improvements in the current mod.

[RastiMinato]

finally another guy "spaming" your vids ...

just kidding ;)

didn´t know you were still improving this nukes though.

[Ntalikeris666]

yea, i am making small improvements. I am now trying to add an EMP effect as metioned in one of my comments.

[Ntalikeris666]

Guys, if you want you can join my gaming Group called "Console & PC Games 2008-2009"

Thank you.

[RastiMinato]

the only thing I can say about this is ... ^^

[Dudekahedron]

oh!! and make 'em affect under water units too. more realistic =P

[Dudekahedron]

I downloaded your mod and in the read me you said that you're willing to take suggestions? Well i got one the EMP pulse in real bombs i was thinking the EMP pulse would affect everything of all players on the whole map for a little time. and yeah the bombs gotta be bigger!!

[Ntalikeris666]

The EMP idea is quite good, and i might implement it ! For something like a min all the structures of all players will be disabled. I dont wanna make to bombs bigger, because of balance issues. Also the explosion radius of the standard nuke is perfeclty matched with the UEF explosion's shockwave. Making it bigger would be exaggerated...

But the EMP idea is really good !

Thanks for sharing with me your opinion!

In my next releash , i will take care of it!

[Dudekahedron]

HOORAY!! thanks a bunch! looking forward !

[Ntalikeris666]

No problem ;)

[chrisy909]

hey, u remember me? i was the first viewer of this when it came out!

[Ntalikeris666]

Yea i remember you!

[geover330]

sorry re ntalika exw mia erwtisi: emeine tpt meta i ta ekanes PALI ola limpa????lol plaka ekana pantos oraia ekri3oula

[Ntalikeris666]

XD...

[RastiMinato]

*brain explodes*

[Ntalikeris666]

lol XD

[RastiMinato]

to which comment ?

[Ntalikeris666]

*brain explodes*

[DaC00lguy72]

bah the last 1 is just the seraphim t4 nuke

[Ntalikeris666]

no it isnt. Its original radius was 60 now it is 85. It is just that the Island it small for its explosion.

[RastiMinato]

lol nuke is too uber for island ^^

[Ntalikeris666]

heh XD

[RastiMinato]

LOL some hours away and then Greek again XD

when I look at all that written ...

2nd brain explode (in one day 0_o) ^^

about supcom 2:

I seriously hope the nukes will be f***ing badass (eventually combined with better graphics ...) *can´t wait T_T*

[DDEagle]

yeah supcom2,, how awesome must that be,, Chris said in his review about supcom when it first came out, he's gonna use the full 4 gig

+ of ram

[RastiMinato]

you actually need that for supcom 1

i myself have 4gigs and supcom still doesn´t want to run perfectly

(they shall decrease the recommented PC stats since the actual ones are not correct for next supcom ^^)

[Ntalikeris666]

RAM is not the most important when it comes to Supreme Commander... You need mostly a really good GPU and then a good CPU, Then RAM comes in...

[KANELIVESINMYHOUSE]

diko s mod einai?

[Ntalikeris666]

Edelos.

[KANELIVESINMYHOUSE]

re otan kaneis zoom teleios sto edafos kai ta exeis terma ta grafika posa fps exeis?

[Ntalikeris666]

otan kano zoom sto edafos exw peripu 30 fps.

[KANELIVESINMYHOUSE]

xaxa! emena paei sto 14-17 an kai osos kai na paei lag dn vlepw

[Ntalikeris666]

emena arxizei ke lagarei otan mazeftei polis kosmos...

[KANELIVESINMYHOUSE]

pantws ta grafika tou sup com den me entiposiazoun, dn xerw gt oloi lene oti xrieazese kalo systyma gia na to paikseis full

[Ntalikeris666]

da3i re si, borei na min exun TIS treles leptomeries alla emena prosopika mu aresun. Xriazese kalo systima giati, einai para pola unit stin o8oni taftoxrona.

[KANELIVESINMYHOUSE]

nai i malakia me to sup com einai oti

1 tech 1 defense = 50 units

[Ntalikeris666]

ne....Egw 8elo na do pos 8a einai to SupCom2...

[KANELIVESINMYHOUSE]

ekei akoma pio mlkia :O haha ekei tha einai 1 def= 200 units and btw pote vgenei ayto? se kana xrono? eida hmeromhnia dekemvrio 2009 dld se enan xrono

[RastiMinato]

so how is the "annihilation of these still not pretty nukes" going 1st general ? =D

[Ntalikeris666]

heh! SITREP: The data is attacking me and i am pinned down. The Algorithm's troops are denying to show a nice fucking result! BUT! i am trying to remain alive despite the massive brutal attacks of some "forged Files!" OK, in other words i am still working on it, but somethings just make my mind blackout! Especially when i have to modify a complicated effect... I will send you an example of what i mean...

[RastiMinato]

LOL you forgot the giant code walkers attacking you =D

but I know what you meant; seems quite difficult

I somehow knew that and I didn´t want to let it seem like "it shall be completed tomorrow"

you can take your time!

[Ntalikeris666]

LOL, i saw your message! If that guy releshes his mod next year, when am i going to? (Might me earlier though) But you dont know how much i am looking forward to Supreme Commander 2... How do you think nukes will be there? (i imagine some badass mushroom clouds...)

[CaramelMan24]

nice mod, thats how powerful nukes should be in the game! extra punishment for forgetting to put up nuke defence hehe

[Ntalikeris666]

Thanks!

[RastiMinato]

just say when you begin work on it

[Ntalikeris666]

i have started now, but things look quite more difficult than i expected them to be. Most of the effects i have modyfied are not working propertly and seem worst than the original ones. I will consult some forums and keep up the try.

[RastiMinato]

even without that much experience you keep trying it, that´s something you should be proud of

(I seriously would be too lazy =D )

Didn´t think you would be that far already 0_o

[Ntalikeris666]

Thanks! Modding on the one hand could have a really nice effect, but its preperation on the other hand is painful...

[RastiMinato]

I think I can imagine it ...

the work is probably a pain in the ass

but then seeing the results might be like ...

heaven?

and all that along to school ...

(I myself even dont know when or what tests I´m going to write =P )

[Ntalikeris666]

heh XD actually now (if you have heard any international news) there is a really bad situation in greece (Protests bandalisms etc) that started because of the murder of a 15 year old by a cop. So right now we have closed our school as a sign of expostulation.

[RastiMinato]

nooooooo =)

(well, i don´t need to care ! i´m good enough to "sleep" in the lessons and still being one [or the] best in class lol)

GET TO WORK NAOW ;D (plz)

[Ntalikeris666]

Yes SIR!

[RastiMinato]

that´s the spirit XD

[RastiMinato]

when will you be finished with the work on your "ideas" ?

*cough* want pretty nukes *cough* ;D

[Ntalikeris666]

it will take me some time, because i am really busy at the time.

[RastiMinato]

"some time" ... is about... ???

(may I ask how old you are? The informations on your channel are wierd)

[Ntalikeris666]

Heh, i know my channel information is wierd.

I am 16. You know, i like dabbling with modding but right now i am too busy, so now you know why i will need "some time"

BTW, How old are you?

[RastiMinato]

only wanted to know how long "some time" is in your opinion (f.e. one week, one month etc.)

BTW look on my channel information (the things I´ve written)

[ohhh and if the birth date you´ve written is right in my country you would be 15]

[Ntalikeris666]

i am 15 years old and 6 months and 10 days.

As for the mod, first of all, what i am trying to do (all the effects Etc) is reeeeeaaaaaalllly difficult. Whats more, imagine that in order to check if the effects are working i have to start the game every time i make a lil change. There are lots of files that i have to modify for each nuke (shockwave emmiters, effects, particles), and right now (these weeks) i am really busy with tests and stuff like that. SO , be patient.

[RastiMinato]

i am 15 years old, too (and 3 months and 28 days and 10 hours and 24 seconds atm =P )

i believe you that this is really difficult and I´M PATIENT, only wanted to know when this version will be finished around =*(

[disturbedrulez2]

how do you even download mods for supreme commander and where do you extract them to

[Ntalikeris666]

the link for the mod is on the description. To use the mod, exract the "Realistic Nukes" Folder in your mods folder located on the directory of your game.

[RastiMinato]

It is still version 1.2 though =D

btw. is this mod on the vault?

would make disturbedrulez2´s life much easier

would only have to DOWNLOAD it and the vault would automatically put it in the right folder

What will you do to the cybran/aeon nukes?

(want to know what ideas!)

[Ntalikeris666]

Here are my ideas: AEON NUKE: when the missile goes off, a bright flash occurs (as it is now) and a shockwave (that distorts the air) is created as the fireball is increasing in size. I might iplement some of your ideas too about the AEON NUKE.

Cybran : The nuke goes off in mid air, and it creates and intense flash. After that a thick fireball with a concution wave around stats to rise up in the air and as it goes highier and highier, it creates more rings above it.

[RastiMinato]

sounds interesting ... (read all plz)

All I didn´t get were the fireball(what fireball? There is no fireball like thing atm) and the rings.

(know what rings you meant, but I want to know HOW you meant the rings are "above" cause all the rings above the ball would seem ... weak somehow =/ )

I could have gotten it wrong but I think the ball should rise above one or two of these rings just to create a good look

(sorry if I spam this vid with comments)