On Feb. 18, 2010, the FBI and detectives from the Philadelphia District Attorney's Office executed search warrants at the clinic as part of an investigation into illegal prescription drug activity. What investigators found inside proved to be far more troubling.
The problem is, McCain didnt vote to illegalize birth control, just to not force insurance companies to provide it if they have moral objections. That is their right to object on moral grounds. It is their freedom of religion. If a woman wants birth control she can still buy it. It just won't be free.
On Pittsburgh Abortion Clinic where 7 babies were killed AFTER birth – 1 mother died. "I was flabbergasted to learn that the DOH did not think their authority to protect public health extended to clinics offering abortion services," Rendell, a former Philadelphia mayor & district attorney, said in a statement. " ... I immediately directed them to inspect these facilities. It was simply preposterous that the department took this position, ever."
If you are referring to Gonsell's clinic, that place is a real life example of an illegal abortion clinic practicing unsafe abortion (back alley) methods. Expect more of them as anti choicers keep having their way and closing safe legitimate clinics.
This is the website of an organisation that 'promotes the advancement of sexual and reproductive rights" I've nothing against sexual rights or contraception but you are hardly going to get an unbiased opinion from an organisation who stated aim is MORE ABORTIONS.
Anyway, I'll read on. Although I find it extremely offensive to listen to them describe murder as basic healthcare.
I see you've got your horse blinders firmly on. Please quote where they state that they want "more abortions"? Good luck with that, lol. The Guttmacher Insittue is a highly respected neutral third party organization for reproductive health. Sorry that reality doesn't conform to your biases, but thats how it is.
@loner1878 I think you are interpreting based on biased data. For example, are you seriously suggesting that anyone in Ireland would allow a situation where a woman's life was at risk from continuing a pregnancy? If that was the case, I guarantee you, that you would be quoting me the names of women who died in these situations.
I think you seriously need to read the judgments; and not websites whose funding comes in part from abortion providers.
Yeah, the case taken to the human rights court. And lets not forget a 1992 case, where 14-year-old girl raped and impregnanted by her neighbor sued the government to permit her to travel to England for an abortion. The government tried to stop her even though she was threatening to commit suicide. Fortunately for Irish women, organizations with people who actually care can help them obtain abortions overseas.
I have read the judgements, maybe you need to drop your personal biases on the subject as they are clearly impeding your ability to see the topic clearly.
RE your comments on Guttmacher - please don't tell me they are neutral.
RE your comments on any bias I might have - I can assure you that as someone who regularly works in colleges in Maryland and in Berlin - life would be far easier if I took a anti-life position than a pro-life position. That's one of the reasons I admire secular pro-lifers - there is no economic reward, just moral courage.
Guttmacher is neutral, the issue is their research findings don't conform to your beliefs. I can't tell you how many people I know claim Snopes is a left-wing conspiracy because it debunks some of their pet myths. And I have a friend who thinks its a right wing conspiracy because it debunked one of hers. All perspective, see?
Yes, they are neutral third part and highly respected research organization. Their findings just don't suit the warped view of reality that anti choicers favor.
@loner1878 Alan F. Guttmacher was president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America and a leader in the International Planned Parenthood Federation in the 1960s and early 1970s. He founded the Guttmacher Institute, the research arm of Planned Parenthood. How you can say it isn't a biased organization is beyond me. They support whatever Planned Parenthood supports, thus are extremely leftist and try to promote a greater acceptance of abortion, contraception, & all Planned Parenthood does
The Guttmacher Institute began as a semi-autonomous research branch of Planned Parenthood, but became an independent, not-for-profit corporation in 1977 and was re-named in honor of Alan F Guttmacher. You can try and claim bias, but realize then you have to back up your little claim by proving the scientific studies and individual researchers working on them are all biased as well.
Sorry you have a problem with contraception and legal medical procedures,.
wow, you live in the USA and you know "a lots of abortion rights activists working in Ireland" - it always makes me wonder why the abortion industry can't find many Irish people to do its marketing and propaganda.
I'm sure you're a great person; but did you ever consider that pro-abortion spin - putting murder in terms of 'rights' has clouded your judgment?
You can't just destroy people because they are problematic and have no one to speak up for them - that's fascism.
One expert who spoke at the United Nations estimates that up to 200 million women and girls are missing worldwide because of sex-selective abortion and female infanticide.
I'm a liberal with nothing positive to say about McCain or his fascist cronies who recently took over the House. But here's a simple idea that could give the democrats supermajorities in the U.S. Congress and landslide victories for Obama and other democratic candidates. Back off on abortion, especially the taxpayer-funded third-term kind. Pro-life democrats would be virtually unbeatable. 57% of Americans think abortion is murder. We want to win next time, don't we?
I don't see you providing any statistics about Americans' opinions on abortion. Show me any poll from any medium that shows that the majority of Americans are pro-choice.
The fact that abortion remains legal is proof enough, plus the fact that 1 out of 3 women in the US will have an abortion during their lifetime is another. Even the survey from the LA Times the year before showed most Americans are pro choice. Its normal for anti choice activism to increase when the opposing political party is in office. I study statistics quite a bit, and I would advise you to take in outside variables and not buy them at face value.
People who don't know what the effects of illegal abortion are. I lived in a country where abortion was illegal and the laws against it only made it a dangerous back alley procedure - for poor women of course. I used to be "pro life" until I saw what the reality was. I reccomend you google the article "The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion" for some interesting insights on some people who don't follow what they preach.
Right, your women have to go to England for them. I know a lot of abortion rights activists working in Ireland. Heard the European Court of Human Rights ruled against Ireland on Thursday for stopping a cancer sufferer from terminating a pregnancy that would likely have caused her to die. Very admirable.
@loner1878 Firstly, nobody was preventing her having an abortion. Thats spin.
Secondly, there reason the European Court of Human Rights was involved is because, despite several referendums and elections where people overwhelmingly voted pro-life, the only way foreign pro-abortion business people could hope to introduce an abortion culture is to impose it.
Thirdly, The Court recognised and upheld Ireland's article acknowledging the personhood of the unborn.
Abortion is illegal in Ireland and she was denied one by the law. That is the very definition of preventing her from having an abortion.
Werent contraceptives illegal in Ireland until the 1980's under the same dark ages mentality? No one gets rich from working in abortion services. I love your complete denial of the reality of countless Irish women who have to go abroad for this basic healthcare.
@loner1878 I think you need to re read the judgments.
Also, again all pro-abortionists I speak to seem to do this, whats the connection between condoms/contraception and abortion. Abortion is the willful destruction of another human.
I love your statement that no body gets rich from abortion. what do you base that upon?
And all anti choicers I talk to seem to be comeplety clueless on what should be an obvious connection. You claim to want to reduce abortion, yet many oppose contraceptive access and accurate sexual education in schools (and I should point out many anti choice conservatives also oppose welfare and head start programs. Brilliant logic, isn't it?)
@loner1878 I've never done any thing to stop anyone having access to contraception nor have I opposed sex education nor have I ever voted anything other than social democratic, which I can guarantee you is a far more left wing position than the US Democratic party.
Where exactly did I single you out alone for that? I merely explained to you what I see as an obvious connection between abortion and contraceptives, which you asked for to begin with. Apparently its only "stereotyping" when I say anti choicers do something but its fine for you to generalize "pro-abortionists." Watch the hypocrisy, m'kay?
@loner1878 wow, you live in the USA and you know "a lots of abortion rights activists working in Ireland" - it always makes me wonder why the abortion industry can't find many Irish people to do its marketing and propaganda.
I'm sure you're a great person; but did you ever consider that pro-abortion spin - putting murder in terms of 'rights' has clouded your judgment?
You can't just destroy people because they are problematic and have no one to speak up for them - that's fascism.
Oh please, the anti choice (aka forced birther) is the easiest stance. Trust me, I used to be one. It was so easy dismissing women's circumstances and labeling the other side with petty labels (anti life, LOL) And I know plenty of people who are religous and pro choice. I've known some sexist, anti-gay rights secular people in my time as well.
I'm amused about something, you imply there's an economic reward for secular pro-choicers. What do you mean by that?
Uh huh, just like halting construction on a house is the same as destroying a home. Or eating a seed is the same as chopping down a tree, right?
Common sense. Many medical fields are far more profitable than abortion care and don't involve having to wear a bulletproof vest under your scrubs or have daily death threats from crazed fanatics.
@elegantlywasted100 I was quoting Planned Parenthood's figure that 0ne in three women by the age of 45 have had an abortion, I assume that refers to USA.
What's best for women is the same thing that's best for men: to recognize how great sex is, fall in love,lose virginity,have great sex, break up,have heart broken,get drunk,sleep around,find better guy,have sex,break up,hate guys,get drunk,sleep with girl,become lesbian,getSTD,find out you'rePG,go to Planned Parenthood,give them $400,go home,feel sad. Get high,get laid,get drunk get laid...Or you could abstain from sex until marriage. Pro Choice message.
@yaoifanficlover i am not anti-war, and I am in question about the death penalty. I am a Christian, and I believe (based on the Word of God) that there is a time for war. I do also believe that we, humans, don't have the right to take the lives away from people. I am also a proud American, so I do think that we are doing by sticking up for our country. ( "war" )
@LovedbcHim thanks! you too... It really makes me sick inside when I read some of these comments and have to converse with people who think it is okay to do this to an innocent life. I am going to my first pro-LIFE march this weekend! I would like anti-lifers to go watch how an abortion is preformed. It is pretty interesting and shows people just how barbaric it is. Also it irritates me when adults fight with me..a 15 year old, but it makes me feel better that I actually have morals haha!g-luck!
@kazooga1234 abortion is just an unwanted miscarriage? are you kidding! NO ONE WANTS A MISCARRIAGE! abortion is when a tube is inserted vaginally and vacuums the HUMAN (not parasite! do you even know what a parasite is!!!) out. (killing it) Don't tell other people to "google their facts" when you can't even spell seriously, and you just speak constant drivel. Try reading a book.. womens' rights!? what about the baby's rights?! what about the future woman inside that womb! ACCEPT IT'S WRONG!
@kazooga1234 selfish mother? where are the rights for that human? and what the hell are you talking about concerning circumcising? Parents who choose to do that is usually bsed on their religion which they want to bring up THEIR child which they brought in to the world. Circumcised males are thought to have lower incidences of urinary tract infections.
Removal of the foreskin is thought to provide a greater degree of protection against sexually-transmitted diseases. it is healthy to do.
@kazooga1234 no one wants their baby to be killed? then PLEASE explain to me why they abort their babies. I don't care if they don't want to..no matter what the case is IT IS STILL AN INNOCENT BABY!
glenn beck and o'reilly got people to kill one of them? really? that doesn't even make sense! beck is a Christian (he doesn't believe in murder) please explain to me what you were typing..it is not clear. and is every human hitler? the rights for a woman? what about that future woman inside of the
@LovedbcHim really you would choose putting your child up for adobtion eventhough there is an extreme likelyhood of death and tourcherment in an adobtion center shows you dont even know what a group home is like go watch emptysawesome vlogs to have an idea what that type of life is like
@Kitsune1414 lofl funny thing about that i have read somewhere that hitlers mom wanted to have him aborted maybe you could use that in an arguement to make people see why abortions are needed it will help keep another hitler from being around
I know, I read that too!! As horrible and evil as the man was he did aid us in seeing what the human body could take and advance medicine that much further. But he is still evil and disgusting and if I could, I'd go back and shoot him. Or abort him. Either way.
@kazooga1234 But you tell people that this world is evil so why should we even have children in it. I don't know if you noticed but there was no "Oh hope your daughter is doing well" after I mentioned how I had her, there was no concern. I'm not trying to send you on the offense, but maybe you really don't have any concern for a child's life. Abortions SCREW up women's lives, it's not just taking away the baby's. Women who have had abortions, live with it for the REST OF THEIR LIVES!
@LovedbcHim its because it is you dont no what its like for people like me growing up in an abusive household its horrible and there are people who had it worse then me like emptyisawesome you think the world is great but its not there are so many people who are starving in america because of this horrible resection that is why mothers choose to murder their children then give them up for adobtion once they are born of coarse they go to jail for that but still and no abortions save womens lives
@LovedbcHim so they dont get screwed up so women can get an education and go to college instead of having to take care of a baby they make it so 16 year olds can have a childhood instead of have to grow up to fast they make it so women dont have to live a life of hell trying to work 3-4 jobs like riley is trying to pay for his baby and they choise to have the baby but there are many people who choose not to because its to hard and they rather have something called a childhood or go to college
@LovedbcHim not to mention not many guys are like riley most guys just abandon the girl once they find out she got knocked up and then they claim the girl is a slut eventhough she was only with 1 guy and yes there are times when girls have been with more then one guy but from what i find out the patterned is one girl makes one mistake fucks a guy gets preg and he abandons her and that guy ends up being the father of 8 babys of 5 different baby mamas if they dont have abortions and putting a guy
in jail for not paying child support doesnt help anything because the money is still not being paid its just taking up room in jail cells where people like linsey lohan should be because she only did 2 weeks of her 3 month centance in jail because of over crowding and that over crowding also makes it so horrible criminals like rapest get out sooner so if you want more over crowding in jail and more people on welfare then you have the right way of thinking but its wrong women need to have a
@LovedbcHim choise so their lives dont get fucked up and loser guys dont make loser children who end up joining gangs and doing drugs and fuck up their lives and without a father in their lives its more likely that that would happen not to mention that if a girl gets preg at the age of 16 its extremely likely that the same thing will happen to her baby if she goes through with having the baby and thats not right and abortions make life so much easier and keeps population down
@kiwigirlhottie nobody asks for their baby to be killed i mean i no that there where those illigal abortions going on and glenn beck and o reilly got people to kill one of them and i think another one was doing jail time but usually women dont want their babys to be killed eventhough when we had that major resection i heard some horrible storys about women drowing their babys because they couldnt financly take care of them so they killed them but they also went to jail for that
@mcbowser it doenst suck to be a women what it just means is that as much rights as women have now we need to make sure that the rights women have are strong and that they wont get taken away and we can use anybodys help to make that possible after all it could also suck to be a guy since baby boys are being circumcised all the time still and thats horribly wrong as well i have been working on getting boys the right for their foreskin since boys rights arent being thought about as much as womens
The Constitution never mentions the act of sex nor does it confer upon the people a fundamental right to have sex. Sex was not important to our founders. In the 1700s they just were not preoccupied with sex as we unfortunately are today.
@ToxicOdiousOne wrote "Sex was not important to our founders. In the 1700s they just were not preoccupied with sex as we unfortunately are today" I'm sure you have some data to support your claim, otherwise, that is just some really bizarre posturing.
Fuck you. We have the right to have sex. Its our body. Just because someone has sex doesn't make them a whore or skank birth control prevents abortion. Go shove a rake up your ass douche.
Sorry but it's not a child. Its a human, yes, but its a non-sentinal being. It's a zygote, embryo or fetus. It HAS no rights. Women have more rights than that parasite.
@Kitsune1414 Yes, it is a child. Look it up in the dictionary. Fetus means child in it's earliest stage of live. A zygote stage only lasts till about 4 weeks. Most women don't even know they are pregnant at that time. Embryo goes on from 4 weeks to 12 weeks, and starts out as the size of a thumbnail, but by the time the baby is 12 weeks, it can weigh up to 6 ounces and is about the size of a golfball or a little bit bigger. So you tell me that's not a child again??
Its not a child. It is not a child until it is out of the mother's body. If it can be taken care of by anyone but her (i.e not in HER body) it is a child. Fetus does not mean 'child in the earliest stages of live (I suppose you mean 'life') I did look it up.
May I ask you something? If the fetus were gay, would you STILL protect the gay fetus?
@Kitsune1414 If it's not a child, then why is it fully formed with all it's organs by twelve weeks? And yes I would by the way, I don't know why you asked me that question. It's still a "child". God has a plan for both the mother and the child. Psalm 139 " You created me in my mother's womb." God created you, what if your mom were to have made a decision for you to kill you instead. Aren't you glad you got a chance at life? Don't you think those children would be too?
My mother thought about aborting me. I'm not going to be depressed and 'my mother doesn't love me blahblahblah' and that quote is about ONE specific person who was a prothet who was all special! Not about every fucking child in the damn world. And it's not 'fully formed' at 12 weeks. You don't know anything but your religion and if Hitler had been aborted, all those Jews would be alive.
@Kitsune1414 You are the one who believes in a lie. Your mom did not abort you because God has a reason for you to be here and she loves you and so does God. Oh and that special person was a king. He was David, he was not a prophet. Whens the last time you read the bible before saying what verse came from whom and so forth? You altough try reading it next time. It's a great book. A "baby" is fully formed by twelve weeks. Have you ever personally seen an ultra-sound. Their human.
Yeah I know my mother loves me. God doesn't. If He did, I wouldn't have tried to commit suicide or have anxiety or depression. And no, I won't read the Bible because one: I cannot understand it and two: it's a waste of money. And I don't have time to read it. And I'm not Christian, I'm Wiccan so kiss my ass.
The fetus is not fully formed by twelve weeks, its lungs still need to be created and it nervous system as well. And no and I don't intend to. I'm adopting.
@Kitsune1414 "I wouldn't have tried to commit suicide or have anxiety or depression. "
No mention of God in that statement. I do see the word "I". Selfishness is the opposite of Love and suicide is the ultimate selfishness. I am sure your pagan religion will help you with that though.
@Kitsune1414 If I were faced with adoption or abortion, I would choose adoption, not to mention that there are also a lot of wonderful, warm, strong and loving adoptive families or even foster homes out there who want children.
I wouldn't. Abortion for the win! I fear prgnancy and hate birth. And if there are 'great' 'loving' adoption and foster families, then why the hell are there so many kids still up for adoption? Seriously, can you answer that?
@Kitsune1414 Abortion is wrong. It is MURDER no if's ands or buts, it's wrong. Kitsune, have you ever really seen pictures of aborted babies? They are torn apart, burned alive, thrown into a trash can or lab jar with phemildahide, left in a soiled utility room to die silently by themselves. On top of that try watching a video of a baby being aborted. The baby actually pulls hers/himself away from the abortionists tools and actually fights them. I hope that seeing this would open your eyes
@LovedbcHim its not fully formed by 12 weeks it doenst get its brain until its 6th months thats when it starts about and if your getting your facts from the bible i suggest you use real facts called google and just search for things about when a baby is a baby and when it cant be aborted and
@kazooga1234 No by the 8th week the brain is formed, and my proof is from an ultra-sound. And about your suicide, I've been there but it's my faith in God's love for me that God me through me. Depression, done that too. I've been healed of my depression too. Suicidal feelings is a very painful thing to go through and most of the time it happens because of circumstances. The pain is beyond what anyone can imagine. But with God all things are possible. God still loves you.
@LovedbcHim if a mother doesnt want her child how well could she take care of it i mean to want it means you love it to not want it means that you dont love it so no i dont think the children would want to be born if they knew they wherent wanted
@LovedbcHim well by forcing somebody to have the baby doesnt mean that they will grow up in a loving envoirment what abortion does is save everybody pain i grew up in a very abusive household and if somebody said they wanted to kill me i would say go right on ahead and most children that are aborted would be welfare children anyways and that means that your tax payer money would have to go to supporting them and more children on welfare means higher taxes and it means your taxes will be highered
@LovedbcHim what fetus means is a parasite that lives inside of the women or something going to be a child that could still easily be a misscarage and i have known women who know they are preg before 4 weeks and i have know idea where you come up with this shit but at 8 weeks that creature inside a women is nothing 6 ounces lofl a book weights more then that hell i think a pen weights more then that its nothing its not the size of a golfball thats y when illigal abortions where done most of the
@kazooga1234 I've been pregnant, that's how I learned of their size at that gestation. What you believe in is a lie. Try going to a nuetral obgyn. They will show you the actual size of an 8 week embryo, and it definitely is not the size of a lentil bean.
@LovedbcHim no it doesnt mean that what it means is that you have seen it in a magifine glass not what it accually looks like go google it you will see that a sonagram magnifies it so you can see whats inside you not its accual size and it cant be found when an illigal abortion is done a lot of the times and that is caz its so small and they have seen blown up pics of what it looks like so they think they can find it and they go to look they dont see anything eventhough its there
@kazooga1234 No, an obgyn can look inside and see the baby. It doesn't have to always be through an ultra-sound. Often there have been times when women have gotten pregnant again during the last trimester of their pregnancy, and the ob will go to do a vaginal exam after the one baby is born and find, oh yeah, surprise they are 10-12 weeks pregnant. Often the ob looks to see if the uterus has gone back to normal size and some will actually see that 10-12 week baby. Ask any ob.
@LovedbcHim they went wrong and left the fetus still in the mothers body its because they couldnt find it it was so small so dont put this lieing bull shit out there and its not a child it is something that can come out in a womens period still and that happens way more times then people know
@kazooga1234 Look at "my nine week abortion" That is an actual embryo. Yes it can come out in your period, especially when women do not know they are pregnant, and some women can find out they are pregnant when they are four weeks, but that is very rare. Usually by the time women find out they are pregnant, the baby is already almost fully formed already. This woman took the abortion pill, and she thought that she would pass blood clots, but it was her actual child instead.
@LovedbcHim right and all an abortion is is a wanted misscarage i cant believe you are a women against womens rights i mean siriously thats just fucked up you cant say that i cant have an abortion caz my family are a bunch of pricks and i dont want them to beat up on my baby like they did me thats just shitten wrong and its not almost fully formed not at all you siriously need to google your facts thats why its so easy to be done caz its a nothing and i have never heard of abortion pills
@LovedbcHim im not saying that abortion pills dont exist but if they do its of coarse you will have an abortion if you take them if a women wanted to keep her baby and took them i would say she is so stupid she doesnt deserve to have a child
@kazooga1234 Ugh, she wasn't dumb and a lot of women do this because they are mis-informed about the abortion pill. They think that they will pass blood clots. Planned Parenthood does not tell them that it will be an actual embryo that is not microscopic that they will be passing.
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 nobody kills children because if they did then they would be in jail and by making birth control not paid by the insurance companys its a way of saying you cant have sex
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 abortion dont kill people illigal abortions kill people and fetus arent people they are parasites and if you dont no that then go do research a fetus isnt anything its a wanted miscarage when a women decides to get an abortion and miscarages happen all the time
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 yet the health insurance companys do every day not to mention that when abortion is illigal then people who are accually living get an illigal abortion and then they die trying to have them done so not only does the non existing thing not live if you even think it will live but the person who has that thing inside them doesnt get to live either so pro life that cock sucker
@kazooga1234 just because ppl do something illegal doesn't mean you legalize it. also, if the woman is helped get it done, not only did she not get in trouble for murder, she can go do it all over again. i'd rather HER die during an illegal abortion than her get pregnant and kill her child. don't confuse that with me not caring about her life....and just because you lost this debate doesn't mean you should result to name calling.
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 first all yes it does why do you think so many people want to legalize pot its because the war on drugs isnt working and to have it be legal makes sense and also you are saying that you want higher taxes caz thats what will happen if we got rid of abortions not to mention that its always the women that gets stuck with the child while the father just leaves and doesnt pay for child support or anything they usually end up in jail but the jails are already over crowed thats
@kazooga1234 i'm not feeding the troll anymore. also, i'm not anti-choice because anti-choice is giving the baby no choice. and again, just because you lost this debate doesn't mean you should result to name calling. i'm done feeding the troll.
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 its not a baby it cant breath on its own there for its not living and i am not the troll you are for going on to a page that is oviously for womens rights when your against giving women the right to choose and by not letting a women choose what to do with her body it is anti choise caz a fetus and baby cant choose after all i am for boys being able to choose if they want to be circumcised but the parents always make that choise for the babys and thats y america has the high
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 est percentage of circumcisions and that just proves that babys cant choose anything so you have just lost ever single arguement you put out there
@kazooga1234 i'm circumcised and i lost that choice but i had alot of other ones...also, i wasn't slaughtered.......and yes it is anti-choice to do it........NOW i'm done feeding the troll.
its mutilation of the penis to be circumcised and its extremely painful and its wrong your missing a vain to your penis and having an abortion isnt being slaughted caz its not a fucking living thing the deffinition of living means that you can breath on your own and think on your own a fetus cant do that it doenst have any brain until its you cant get an abortion and its something at like 5 months when the brain starts to grow and also there is a theory that if your circumcised you are more
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 voilent that explains why you dont want women to have the same rights as guys do after all guys can just abandon living children who need to have a father in their lives but you dont think a women should be able to have that easy of a choise not to mention you said that women who get abortions should have to feel pain now thats just fucked up and gross you dont care about another persons life at all all you care about is making other peoples lives miserable
@kazooga1234 I've gone to a country where drugs and alcohol were legal, and it was actually more rampant and less controlled than it is here. I think pot should only be legal for certain circumstances, because it does help some people with serious medical issues, but the truth is our country is much better off because of the laws that we have, excluding the abortion law. Abortion is out of control because it is legal for any reason.
why a lot of people are only spending 2 weeks of their jail sentances in jail not to mention its a womens right to do whatever she wants to with her own body and you call yourself pro life isnt being pro life protecting somebodys life and your saying that you want accual living people to die you are discusting you are the one that doenst deserve to live not to mention you are trying to take away a womens constitutional right
@kazooga1234 Then that means the woman altough murder anyone who is dependent on her right? We are very pro-life and pro-woman. There are ways to save both a woman's health and a baby's life and there is help out there for any mom. Try looking into women's pregnancy centers which provides counseling, free diapers, baby clothes, maternity clothes, ultra-sounds, pregnancy tests, free cribs and other baby and mother needs. Besides I was one of those women whose health was at risk
@kazooga1234 I loved my little girl enough to let her live. Most women who are pregnant would do what they can to take care of themselves and their child, and when it comes down to it, they would put their child first, although still trying to keep themselves healthy. I had listeria, and both my daughter and I could have died. When they removed her via c-section, the listeria had begun eating at her body and had already eaten half of her placenta. Listeria is a parasite, not unborn babies.
@kazooga1234 But shouldn't that tell you enough that these little babies that we are hurting so much are fighters and whether they may cognitively understand it or not, they want to live. When I see pics of babies who are aborted, some of those babies were the same gestation that my daughter was born at, it really breaks my heart. But if you all want to continue your belief that it is o.k to abort unborn children, feel free, because it is not o.k and you will be judged.
@kazooga1234 It is never o.k to take a life because a woman wants to live the way that she wants to live. God bless everyone. He's the one that created us anyways. It should be His decision whether or not to take a life, not ours.
@LovedbcHim its not a life if you want to take it and plant it some place else and let it grow that is fine its not allowed in my body and its a parasite deffinition of parasite something that needs to use your body to live in hence a fetus is a parasite and instead of saying abortions are wrong maybe since your a women you should focus on making it so adobtion centers in america are better and easier to adobt from that is why there are so many people on the streets caz the adobtion centers suck
@LovedbcHim also more babys die in adobtion centers then you probably know not to mention that they mistreat the babys and mis diagnosis the babys with problems and thats how a decent amount of the deaths happen so why the hell should a baby and a mother have to suffer so badly and you said you kept your child think about if you had to give up that baby could you do it prob not but many people have to give up their babys and not keep them at all thats why they get the abortions
A woman is not a life support system for a uterus. She is a sovereign, free human being who has a right to decide what's best for herself. The Founders believed in this too, as evidenced by the words "pursuit of happiness" and "liberty". Also, slavery (forcing a woman to provide physical service/servitude to a fetus or whatever you want to call it) is ILLEGAL due to the 13th Amendment. So any and all anti-choice legislation is, by definition, unconstitutional and anti-American
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 that thing i just pasted to you was by upstatenooyawkah and i have every right to call you a fucking useless peice of shit that wants to fuck the world up more then it already is go fucking suck cock you low life
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 /watch?v=PDDhBMguf3o&feature=sub that is a youtube link i think this guy does a good job explaining why he stopped being prolife and it might help you understand why abortions arent killing anything at all and you will prob like what this has to say about a new law that passed in a fucked up state that i cant stand thats destroying womens lives
why dont you shut yours its the guys who are skanks they have their legs open way more then girls have theirs and i bet your against abortions so if your against abortions wouldnt you be for birth control after all it lessens the likelyhood of a girl having an abortion of coarse when guys like you gets a girl knocked up since you wouldnt do anything for that baby or the girl she should be able to have an abortion caz she wouldnt be able to take care of it herself and it will keep you out of jail
Women have the miraculous power to bring another human being into this world. It is a magnificent and sacred ability.
If you don't want that gift and responsibility... then get a hysterectomy! If you create another life accidentally... then give it to someone through adoption. But don't kill the child. That is what abortion truly is.
Pregnancy... is brutal. It means incredible sacrifice and love and pain and sorrow. But it is the most beautiful and noble thing women can do in this life.
right we have a power that we choose not to use and if we choose not to use it we shouldnt be forced to have an extreme presedure done when a simple harmless abortion can be done and abortions dont kill its people like you who kill because by making abortions illigal all it does it make it more likely for the brith givers to die when trying to get rid of whats in their stomachs or turn to drugs and get addicted trying to get an abortion another way you cant stop abortions only make them safe
@Amulek1234 pregnancy accually isnt brutal not if a women wants it what you are trying to make women do is brutal you dont see us as people you see us as sex objects and i wont be anybodys sex object
@kazooga1234 She didn't say that. No one sees you as a sex object, at least not us. But she's right pregnancy is brutal for some women (I was one of them) but it's worth it because now I have a wonderful little baby girl. I would go through it again. I was sick most of my pregnancy and my daughter was born at 28 weeks premature. I had a very rare infection that almost killed her. It was not easy, she really is such a blessing in our lives and will always be.
@LovedbcHim news flash guys see girls as sex objects all the time the thing is a girl doesnt just have to be a sex object its only worth the pain caz you wanted to have the baby its not worth the pain if you cant afford the child and dont want it i have heard so many storys about women being forced to have their babys then killing them and then killing themselves one story you can look up is about this women who was forced to have a child and then she drowned it in a lake then drowned herself
@kazooga1234 And by the way, I can't afford the my daughter, but I never aborted her because I love her. Most couples who have babies have a hard time being able to afford them. I really don't see not being able to afford them as an excuse to kill them. They are human and they are not parasites. I work in the medical field, I've been in a NICU and they are definitely not parasites.
well there are some girls that would either be homeless if they tried to have a child or would have to give up the baby i bet you also wouldnt put the baby up for a adobtion either there are many girls that also have to choose between having a baby and going to college and thats not fair either so they get an abortion for that reason and you seem to have a decent job that what about the girls that work at mcdonalds or something and
@LovedbcHim can barely afford anything and they are parasites if you dont want them and you also said that you have a guy in your life well think about if you didnt have that guy and thats what also happens to many girls and they cant handle taking care of a baby on their own and for that they shouldnt have to go through the pain when no fucking ass guy has to jack shit for that creature that shouldnt even be around caz the guy is such a fucking prick and wont use a fucking condom
Some people abort because they don't love the thing in them. They don't want it. I know if I got pregnant I'd abort cause I fear pregnancy and hate birth. And being unable to afford a reason to abort. They are human and they are parasites. The babies in the NICU are no longer parasites. They don't need a human body to care for their every need. As in Mother isn't the only one they need. Anyone can take care of them.
@LovedbcHim does that sound like its worth the pain or how about women who have MS and can be paralyzed and have their entire lives ruined and since they cant walk after having the baby they cant take care of the child or not as well or not without help you cant say that abortions are bad it shows that you have no idea how many women have gotten their lives fucked up from drugs or alchole trying to have abortions
@kazooga1234 My cousin has MS, and after she found out about the MS she got pregnant with twin girls. She is now an aerobics instructor who is in her 50's. She is also a grandmother now, because one of those girls had a baby boy. MS is a degenerative disease, and someone who has can be fine one day and then the next not be able to walk ever. But having those children did not make her MS worse. It only made things better.
@iRewel not all women are whores and most of the girls that get knocked up and have abortions are because they believed they fell in love with a man who was so fine until she gets preg and he wants nothing to do with her or whats inside of her and thats when a girl gets an abortion
@kazooga1234 - Way to pull fake stats out of your ass. Girls don't get abortions because they were in love and got dumped. Do you think your mom would kill you if your dad left her? That's the same logic... or lack of logic, rather.
Abortions are always the result of irresponsibility, slut or not. Even the girls that get them aren't going to deny that.
@iRewel i didnt pull fake stats out of my ass i can prove what i am saying and the guy wouldnt pay up you need to read annies baby if you think guys pay up listen to destinys child sweet sixteen siriously i wish my dad left fuck i wish i where dead at times i grew up in a horrible home and its caz the girls cant afford the child by themselves and most guys dont take responcibilitys for the babys that they make just watch the judge shows judge joe brown judge judy judge mathis all those guys
@kazooga1234 - Everything you just typed indicates that you're a clueless retard. Official statistics don't come from Judge Judy and Destiny's Child songs.
@iRewel show up on those shows caz they are the loser sluts and most of the girls have only been with one guy and they just act as if the girl is a slut and the girl just thinks one time it wont get them preg and not many guys are like riley and accually take responcibilty for their mistakes your the a fucking slut yourself most guys are sluts not girls girls have to be in love before they have sex usually caz they like to make love guys however are emotionless fuckers
@kazooga1234 - That's a nice combo of illiteracy and incoherent rambling. Were you even trying to say anything or are you just banging on the keyboard with a hammer and posting whatever comes out?
@iRewel its not just those satistics i cant send links in youtube so i can only give what little info i know that is easy for morons like you to go look up tell me what satistics you want me to find and i will send them to you in a PM and the reason i type like this is because it saves charaters and your just to much of an idiot to be able to read and if you even knew something called facts and really cared about people you wouldnt even be typing to me but you only care about causing more misery
@kazooga1234 - The reason you're the illiterate is because you're unbelievably stupid, which you continue to prove by quoting TV shows and songs as references.
Everything you type is stupid and you have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about, so why would I care if someone that couldn't pass 3rd grade English calls me a moron?
your wrong your the one that cant read and like i said i used those caz i can accually put them into the comment section unlike links from google and i have every idea what i am talking about i also happen to know with abortion being legal that it has gone down a lot and same with teen pregnecy i have found that out in my reaseach i bet that is something you also didnt know and i type like this caz its the comment section and there is a limit and if it was a PM i would use puncuation
@iRewel all that i get out of pricks like you is that if your 13 14 15 or 16 year old daughter got preg you would make them have a baby even if they didnt want it and if they didnt want it you make them drink themselves to death or go try drugs just so they can get an abortion on their own think it wont happen you will see it would happen just like that
@kazooga1234 - Wrong again. Maybe you shouldn't try figuring stuff out... you know, since you're unbelievably stupid and your only skill seems to be spewing gibberish. Seriously, did you skip every day of school? If you're over 8 years old, there's absolutely no excuse for being that clueless and illiterate.
@iRewel im not wrong go watch the vlogbrothers latest upload its something hank did it was a prank call he made to somebody he prank called facts your the one that is spewing lies and fears just do some research it isnt that hard and i never skipped school and was always on time maybe thats why i can always pown your idiotic ass when you arent even part of nerdfightera but then again we dont want scumbags trying to take away womens rights
@kazooga1234 - More stupidity from an idiot. Real shocker.
Right... you were a real genius in school, which explains why you can't even form a single sentence that makes sense. How could I forget that incoherent rambling and illiteracy are the signs of brilliance.
The fact that you just said "pown" while making an ass out of yourself should be enough to convince even an idiot like you that you're not very bright.
your the stupid one that doesnt believe in facts and i dont use puncuation caz it takes up more room in the comment section and i like to only leave one comment if you typed to me in a PM then i would use correct grammer and puncuation your the one that keeps telling me that i am wrong when i can prove how right i am prove me one fact that you say there is no way you can get your stuff is just made up bullshit and i like using pown caz im a gammer and i am way smarter then you will ever be
@kazooga1234 - No, you're just an illiterate moron that's incapable of saying anything intelligent. Spelling everything wrong doesn't save space, so you need to come up with a new excuse for that one. Or just admit you're an idiot.
@iRewel if i am so illiterate how come i can read what you type not to mention that you are the moron for ignoring facts like the fact that abortion and teen pregncy is down or how about the fact that getting an abortion is a womens constitutional right and to quote a republican named ronald ragen (i dont no if i spelt that right and i dont care) "facts are stubborn things" and that is because facts are truth and you cant argue with them and then call yourself smart like you are attempting to do
/watch?v=FTK7lC72I04 this also proves that its the loser guys fault of why abortions are needed and i think the satistics that get said will also help you see how much abortions are needed to keep taxes down and things like that
Good insurance shouldn't as a collectivist system pay for female problems with taxpayer money. No abortions or birth control. I am not paying as a man for shit that not my gender's problem.
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elegantlywasted100 3 months ago
@TheRealMidori Abortion isn't Contraception. Contraception doesn't stop a human heart from beating.
Pro-abortionists try to make a link between opposition to abortion and contraception because their arguements don't stand up to scrutiny.
elegantlywasted100 4 months ago
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The problem is, McCain didnt vote to illegalize birth control, just to not force insurance companies to provide it if they have moral objections. That is their right to object on moral grounds. It is their freedom of religion. If a woman wants birth control she can still buy it. It just won't be free.
GracieLacie333 8 months ago
On Pittsburgh Abortion Clinic where 7 babies were killed AFTER birth – 1 mother died. "I was flabbergasted to learn that the DOH did not think their authority to protect public health extended to clinics offering abortion services," Rendell, a former Philadelphia mayor & district attorney, said in a statement. " ... I immediately directed them to inspect these facilities. It was simply preposterous that the department took this position, ever."
teton99 1 year ago
@teton99
If you are referring to Gonsell's clinic, that place is a real life example of an illegal abortion clinic practicing unsafe abortion (back alley) methods. Expect more of them as anti choicers keep having their way and closing safe legitimate clinics.
loner1878 8 months ago
This is the website of an organisation that 'promotes the advancement of sexual and reproductive rights" I've nothing against sexual rights or contraception but you are hardly going to get an unbiased opinion from an organisation who stated aim is MORE ABORTIONS.
Anyway, I'll read on. Although I find it extremely offensive to listen to them describe murder as basic healthcare.
elegantlywasted100 1 year ago
@elegantlywasted100
I see you've got your horse blinders firmly on. Please quote where they state that they want "more abortions"? Good luck with that, lol. The Guttmacher Insittue is a highly respected neutral third party organization for reproductive health. Sorry that reality doesn't conform to your biases, but thats how it is.
loner1878 1 year ago
@loner1878 I think you are interpreting based on biased data. For example, are you seriously suggesting that anyone in Ireland would allow a situation where a woman's life was at risk from continuing a pregnancy? If that was the case, I guarantee you, that you would be quoting me the names of women who died in these situations.
I think you seriously need to read the judgments; and not websites whose funding comes in part from abortion providers.
elegantlywasted100 1 year ago
@elegantlywasted100
Yeah, the case taken to the human rights court. And lets not forget a 1992 case, where 14-year-old girl raped and impregnanted by her neighbor sued the government to permit her to travel to England for an abortion. The government tried to stop her even though she was threatening to commit suicide. Fortunately for Irish women, organizations with people who actually care can help them obtain abortions overseas.
loner1878 1 year ago
@elegantlywasted100
I have read the judgements, maybe you need to drop your personal biases on the subject as they are clearly impeding your ability to see the topic clearly.
loner1878 1 year ago
RE your comments on Guttmacher - please don't tell me they are neutral.
RE your comments on any bias I might have - I can assure you that as someone who regularly works in colleges in Maryland and in Berlin - life would be far easier if I took a anti-life position than a pro-life position. That's one of the reasons I admire secular pro-lifers - there is no economic reward, just moral courage.
elegantlywasted100 1 year ago
@elegantlywasted100
Guttmacher is neutral, the issue is their research findings don't conform to your beliefs. I can't tell you how many people I know claim Snopes is a left-wing conspiracy because it debunks some of their pet myths. And I have a friend who thinks its a right wing conspiracy because it debunked one of hers. All perspective, see?
loner1878 1 year ago
@loner1878 Guttmacher is an affiliate of Planned Parenthood. Of course they aren't neutral.
GracieLacie333 8 months ago
@GracieLacie333
Yes, they are neutral third part and highly respected research organization. Their findings just don't suit the warped view of reality that anti choicers favor.
loner1878 8 months ago
@loner1878 Alan F. Guttmacher was president of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America and a leader in the International Planned Parenthood Federation in the 1960s and early 1970s. He founded the Guttmacher Institute, the research arm of Planned Parenthood. How you can say it isn't a biased organization is beyond me. They support whatever Planned Parenthood supports, thus are extremely leftist and try to promote a greater acceptance of abortion, contraception, & all Planned Parenthood does
GracieLacie333 8 months ago
@GracieLacie333
The Guttmacher Institute began as a semi-autonomous research branch of Planned Parenthood, but became an independent, not-for-profit corporation in 1977 and was re-named in honor of Alan F Guttmacher. You can try and claim bias, but realize then you have to back up your little claim by proving the scientific studies and individual researchers working on them are all biased as well.
Sorry you have a problem with contraception and legal medical procedures,.
loner1878 8 months ago
@GracieLacie333
“Reality has a well-known liberal bias."
-Stephen Colbert
loner1878 8 months ago
@GracieLacie333 It is called Propaganda! aka Lies!
elegantlywasted100 3 months ago
wow, you live in the USA and you know "a lots of abortion rights activists working in Ireland" - it always makes me wonder why the abortion industry can't find many Irish people to do its marketing and propaganda.
I'm sure you're a great person; but did you ever consider that pro-abortion spin - putting murder in terms of 'rights' has clouded your judgment?
You can't just destroy people because they are problematic and have no one to speak up for them - that's fascism.
elegantlywasted100 1 year ago
@elegantlywasted100
Oops, you double posted. Forcing women to give birth against their will is nothing short of slavery.
loner1878 1 year ago
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teton99 1 year ago
@teton99 Exterminating Girls because thats the way men like it!
elegantlywasted100 1 year ago
I'm a liberal with nothing positive to say about McCain or his fascist cronies who recently took over the House. But here's a simple idea that could give the democrats supermajorities in the U.S. Congress and landslide victories for Obama and other democratic candidates. Back off on abortion, especially the taxpayer-funded third-term kind. Pro-life democrats would be virtually unbeatable. 57% of Americans think abortion is murder. We want to win next time, don't we?
spinemelter2000 1 year ago
@spinemelter2000
57% thats bullshit. I would not vote for any "pro life" democrat.
loner1878 1 year ago
It's 57% according to a Los Angeles Times poll.
spinemelter2000 1 year ago
@spinemelter2000
57% from a phone survey of 1000 random people are pro life. You have to do better than that.
loner1878 1 year ago
I don't see you providing any statistics about Americans' opinions on abortion. Show me any poll from any medium that shows that the majority of Americans are pro-choice.
spinemelter2000 1 year ago
@spinemelter2000
The fact that abortion remains legal is proof enough, plus the fact that 1 out of 3 women in the US will have an abortion during their lifetime is another. Even the survey from the LA Times the year before showed most Americans are pro choice. Its normal for anti choice activism to increase when the opposing political party is in office. I study statistics quite a bit, and I would advise you to take in outside variables and not buy them at face value.
loner1878 1 year ago
@loner1878 If 1 in 3 women have had abortions - and I am not contesting that - why is there so much opposition to abortion.
elegantlywasted100 1 year ago
@elegantlywasted100
People who don't know what the effects of illegal abortion are. I lived in a country where abortion was illegal and the laws against it only made it a dangerous back alley procedure - for poor women of course. I used to be "pro life" until I saw what the reality was. I reccomend you google the article "The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion" for some interesting insights on some people who don't follow what they preach.
loner1878 1 year ago
@loner1878 I live in Ireland - where abortion is not legal. As a community we don't indulge in mass abortions ... something to do with compassion.
I don't care if others do or do not follow what they preach.
elegantlywasted100 1 year ago
@elegantlywasted100
Right, your women have to go to England for them. I know a lot of abortion rights activists working in Ireland. Heard the European Court of Human Rights ruled against Ireland on Thursday for stopping a cancer sufferer from terminating a pregnancy that would likely have caused her to die. Very admirable.
loner1878 1 year ago
@loner1878 Firstly, nobody was preventing her having an abortion. Thats spin.
Secondly, there reason the European Court of Human Rights was involved is because, despite several referendums and elections where people overwhelmingly voted pro-life, the only way foreign pro-abortion business people could hope to introduce an abortion culture is to impose it.
Thirdly, The Court recognised and upheld Ireland's article acknowledging the personhood of the unborn.
elegantlywasted100 1 year ago
@elegantlywasted100
Abortion is illegal in Ireland and she was denied one by the law. That is the very definition of preventing her from having an abortion.
Werent contraceptives illegal in Ireland until the 1980's under the same dark ages mentality? No one gets rich from working in abortion services. I love your complete denial of the reality of countless Irish women who have to go abroad for this basic healthcare.
loner1878 1 year ago
@loner1878 fourthly, again get your facts right, if a woman's life is at risk she can have an abortion. That's in the constitution of Eire.
elegantlywasted100 1 year ago
@elegantlywasted100
Then for some reason it was not followed in this case. You should be concerned.
loner1878 1 year ago
@loner1878 I think you need to re read the judgments.
Also, again all pro-abortionists I speak to seem to do this, whats the connection between condoms/contraception and abortion. Abortion is the willful destruction of another human.
I love your statement that no body gets rich from abortion. what do you base that upon?
elegantlywasted100 1 year ago
@elegantlywasted100
And all anti choicers I talk to seem to be comeplety clueless on what should be an obvious connection. You claim to want to reduce abortion, yet many oppose contraceptive access and accurate sexual education in schools (and I should point out many anti choice conservatives also oppose welfare and head start programs. Brilliant logic, isn't it?)
loner1878 1 year ago
@loner1878 I've never done any thing to stop anyone having access to contraception nor have I opposed sex education nor have I ever voted anything other than social democratic, which I can guarantee you is a far more left wing position than the US Democratic party.
You are operating on stereotypes!
elegantlywasted100 1 year ago
@elegantlywasted100
Where exactly did I single you out alone for that? I merely explained to you what I see as an obvious connection between abortion and contraceptives, which you asked for to begin with. Apparently its only "stereotyping" when I say anti choicers do something but its fine for you to generalize "pro-abortionists." Watch the hypocrisy, m'kay?
loner1878 1 year ago
@loner1878 wow, you live in the USA and you know "a lots of abortion rights activists working in Ireland" - it always makes me wonder why the abortion industry can't find many Irish people to do its marketing and propaganda.
I'm sure you're a great person; but did you ever consider that pro-abortion spin - putting murder in terms of 'rights' has clouded your judgment?
You can't just destroy people because they are problematic and have no one to speak up for them - that's fascism.
elegantlywasted100 1 year ago
@elegantlywasted100
Nice try at dramatic propaganda. Abortion is a medical necessity and a right. Pre fetal tissue is not a sentinent person and it is not murder.
loner1878 1 year ago
@loner1878 I don't mean to sound glib - but what is "Pre Fetal Tissue"?
elegantlywasted100 1 year ago
@elegantlywasted100
Oh please, the anti choice (aka forced birther) is the easiest stance. Trust me, I used to be one. It was so easy dismissing women's circumstances and labeling the other side with petty labels (anti life, LOL) And I know plenty of people who are religous and pro choice. I've known some sexist, anti-gay rights secular people in my time as well.
I'm amused about something, you imply there's an economic reward for secular pro-choicers. What do you mean by that?
loner1878 1 year ago
@elegantlywasted100
What most pregnancies resemble in the first trimester.
loner1878 1 year ago
@elegantlywasted100
Uh huh, just like halting construction on a house is the same as destroying a home. Or eating a seed is the same as chopping down a tree, right?
Common sense. Many medical fields are far more profitable than abortion care and don't involve having to wear a bulletproof vest under your scrubs or have daily death threats from crazed fanatics.
loner1878 1 year ago
@elegantlywasted100 I was quoting Planned Parenthood's figure that 0ne in three women by the age of 45 have had an abortion, I assume that refers to USA.
elegantlywasted100 1 year ago
@elegantlywasted100
Check the Guttmacher Institute. And take a look at abortion rates around the world while you're at it.
loner1878 1 year ago
@loner1878 I'll google it.
elegantlywasted100 1 year ago
You didn't respond to my question. You didn't name any source. You probably just assume that most people agree with you.
spinemelter2000 1 year ago
@spinemelter2000
You didn't ask for a single source. You mean for the 1 in 3 women statistic? Make yourself clear, I don't read minds.
You forget there is also widespread support for abortion rights. If there were so much oppostion alone why is it still legal?
loner1878 1 year ago
MCCAIN IS PROBABLY AN ABORTION SURVIVOR DOESNT TINY SHIT LOOKS LIKE ONE. I AM GLAD HE DID NOT MAKE IT NOT EVEN HALF WAY TO BEING PRESIDENT.
PALOMITA694 1 year ago
What's best for women is the same thing that's best for men: to recognize how great sex is, fall in love,lose virginity,have great sex, break up,have heart broken,get drunk,sleep around,find better guy,have sex,break up,hate guys,get drunk,sleep with girl,become lesbian,getSTD,find out you'rePG,go to Planned Parenthood,give them $400,go home,feel sad. Get high,get laid,get drunk get laid...Or you could abstain from sex until marriage. Pro Choice message.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@yaoifanficlover i am not anti-war, and I am in question about the death penalty. I am a Christian, and I believe (based on the Word of God) that there is a time for war. I do also believe that we, humans, don't have the right to take the lives away from people. I am also a proud American, so I do think that we are doing by sticking up for our country. ( "war" )
kiwigirlhottie 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim thanks! you too... It really makes me sick inside when I read some of these comments and have to converse with people who think it is okay to do this to an innocent life. I am going to my first pro-LIFE march this weekend! I would like anti-lifers to go watch how an abortion is preformed. It is pretty interesting and shows people just how barbaric it is. Also it irritates me when adults fight with me..a 15 year old, but it makes me feel better that I actually have morals haha!g-luck!
kiwigirlhottie 1 year ago
@kiwigirlhottie So i'm assuming that you're anti-war and against the death penalty.
yaoifanficlover 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 abortion is just an unwanted miscarriage? are you kidding! NO ONE WANTS A MISCARRIAGE! abortion is when a tube is inserted vaginally and vacuums the HUMAN (not parasite! do you even know what a parasite is!!!) out. (killing it) Don't tell other people to "google their facts" when you can't even spell seriously, and you just speak constant drivel. Try reading a book.. womens' rights!? what about the baby's rights?! what about the future woman inside that womb! ACCEPT IT'S WRONG!
kiwigirlhottie 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 selfish mother? where are the rights for that human? and what the hell are you talking about concerning circumcising? Parents who choose to do that is usually bsed on their religion which they want to bring up THEIR child which they brought in to the world. Circumcised males are thought to have lower incidences of urinary tract infections.
Removal of the foreskin is thought to provide a greater degree of protection against sexually-transmitted diseases. it is healthy to do.
kiwigirlhottie 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 no one wants their baby to be killed? then PLEASE explain to me why they abort their babies. I don't care if they don't want to..no matter what the case is IT IS STILL AN INNOCENT BABY!
glenn beck and o'reilly got people to kill one of them? really? that doesn't even make sense! beck is a Christian (he doesn't believe in murder) please explain to me what you were typing..it is not clear. and is every human hitler? the rights for a woman? what about that future woman inside of the
kiwigirlhottie 1 year ago
@kiwigirlhottie You go girl:)
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim really you would choose putting your child up for adobtion eventhough there is an extreme likelyhood of death and tourcherment in an adobtion center shows you dont even know what a group home is like go watch emptysawesome vlogs to have an idea what that type of life is like
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@jimmyatemysocks It it's hard, then why would you do it?
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
welcome to mccain's women's clinic, SORRY WE WON'T KILL YOUR BABY
kiwigirlhottie 1 year ago
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@kiwigirlhottie
people like you should have been aborted.
Kitsune1414 1 year ago
@Kitsune1414 lofl funny thing about that i have read somewhere that hitlers mom wanted to have him aborted maybe you could use that in an arguement to make people see why abortions are needed it will help keep another hitler from being around
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234
I know, I read that too!! As horrible and evil as the man was he did aid us in seeing what the human body could take and advance medicine that much further. But he is still evil and disgusting and if I could, I'd go back and shoot him. Or abort him. Either way.
Kitsune1414 1 year ago
@Kitsune1414 ya and then we also wouldnt have people calling obama hitler when he is nothing like him if he was aborted
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 But you tell people that this world is evil so why should we even have children in it. I don't know if you noticed but there was no "Oh hope your daughter is doing well" after I mentioned how I had her, there was no concern. I'm not trying to send you on the offense, but maybe you really don't have any concern for a child's life. Abortions SCREW up women's lives, it's not just taking away the baby's. Women who have had abortions, live with it for the REST OF THEIR LIVES!
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim its because it is you dont no what its like for people like me growing up in an abusive household its horrible and there are people who had it worse then me like emptyisawesome you think the world is great but its not there are so many people who are starving in america because of this horrible resection that is why mothers choose to murder their children then give them up for adobtion once they are born of coarse they go to jail for that but still and no abortions save womens lives
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim so they dont get screwed up so women can get an education and go to college instead of having to take care of a baby they make it so 16 year olds can have a childhood instead of have to grow up to fast they make it so women dont have to live a life of hell trying to work 3-4 jobs like riley is trying to pay for his baby and they choise to have the baby but there are many people who choose not to because its to hard and they rather have something called a childhood or go to college
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim not to mention not many guys are like riley most guys just abandon the girl once they find out she got knocked up and then they claim the girl is a slut eventhough she was only with 1 guy and yes there are times when girls have been with more then one guy but from what i find out the patterned is one girl makes one mistake fucks a guy gets preg and he abandons her and that guy ends up being the father of 8 babys of 5 different baby mamas if they dont have abortions and putting a guy
kazooga1234 1 year ago
in jail for not paying child support doesnt help anything because the money is still not being paid its just taking up room in jail cells where people like linsey lohan should be because she only did 2 weeks of her 3 month centance in jail because of over crowding and that over crowding also makes it so horrible criminals like rapest get out sooner so if you want more over crowding in jail and more people on welfare then you have the right way of thinking but its wrong women need to have a
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim choise so their lives dont get fucked up and loser guys dont make loser children who end up joining gangs and doing drugs and fuck up their lives and without a father in their lives its more likely that that would happen not to mention that if a girl gets preg at the age of 16 its extremely likely that the same thing will happen to her baby if she goes through with having the baby and thats not right and abortions make life so much easier and keeps population down
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kiwigirlhottie nobody asks for their baby to be killed i mean i no that there where those illigal abortions going on and glenn beck and o reilly got people to kill one of them and i think another one was doing jail time but usually women dont want their babys to be killed eventhough when we had that major resection i heard some horrible storys about women drowing their babys because they couldnt financly take care of them so they killed them but they also went to jail for that
kazooga1234 1 year ago
sucks to be a woman, what a horrible life
mcbowser 1 year ago
@mcbowser it doenst suck to be a women what it just means is that as much rights as women have now we need to make sure that the rights women have are strong and that they wont get taken away and we can use anybodys help to make that possible after all it could also suck to be a guy since baby boys are being circumcised all the time still and thats horribly wrong as well i have been working on getting boys the right for their foreskin since boys rights arent being thought about as much as womens
kazooga1234 1 year ago
The Constitution never mentions the act of sex nor does it confer upon the people a fundamental right to have sex. Sex was not important to our founders. In the 1700s they just were not preoccupied with sex as we unfortunately are today.
ToxicOdiousOne 1 year ago
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@ToxicOdiousOne wrote "Sex was not important to our founders. In the 1700s they just were not preoccupied with sex as we unfortunately are today" I'm sure you have some data to support your claim, otherwise, that is just some really bizarre posturing.
kcsorci 1 year ago
Birth cunt troll? Shut your legs skank.
ToxicOdiousOne 1 year ago
@ToxicOdiousOne
Fuck you. We have the right to have sex. Its our body. Just because someone has sex doesn't make them a whore or skank birth control prevents abortion. Go shove a rake up your ass douche.
Kitsune1414 1 year ago
@Kitsune1414 i don't think he said you can't have sex, just not kill your child.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7
Sorry but it's not a child. Its a human, yes, but its a non-sentinal being. It's a zygote, embryo or fetus. It HAS no rights. Women have more rights than that parasite.
Kitsune1414 1 year ago
@Kitsune1414 that's why the "parasite" trys to avoid the abortionst's tools
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7
That makes no sense...
Kitsune1414 1 year ago
@Kitsune1414 Yes, it is a child. Look it up in the dictionary. Fetus means child in it's earliest stage of live. A zygote stage only lasts till about 4 weeks. Most women don't even know they are pregnant at that time. Embryo goes on from 4 weeks to 12 weeks, and starts out as the size of a thumbnail, but by the time the baby is 12 weeks, it can weigh up to 6 ounces and is about the size of a golfball or a little bit bigger. So you tell me that's not a child again??
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim
Its not a child. It is not a child until it is out of the mother's body. If it can be taken care of by anyone but her (i.e not in HER body) it is a child. Fetus does not mean 'child in the earliest stages of live (I suppose you mean 'life') I did look it up.
May I ask you something? If the fetus were gay, would you STILL protect the gay fetus?
Kitsune1414 1 year ago
@Kitsune1414 If it's not a child, then why is it fully formed with all it's organs by twelve weeks? And yes I would by the way, I don't know why you asked me that question. It's still a "child". God has a plan for both the mother and the child. Psalm 139 " You created me in my mother's womb." God created you, what if your mom were to have made a decision for you to kill you instead. Aren't you glad you got a chance at life? Don't you think those children would be too?
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim
My mother thought about aborting me. I'm not going to be depressed and 'my mother doesn't love me blahblahblah' and that quote is about ONE specific person who was a prothet who was all special! Not about every fucking child in the damn world. And it's not 'fully formed' at 12 weeks. You don't know anything but your religion and if Hitler had been aborted, all those Jews would be alive.
Kitsune1414 1 year ago
@Kitsune1414 You are the one who believes in a lie. Your mom did not abort you because God has a reason for you to be here and she loves you and so does God. Oh and that special person was a king. He was David, he was not a prophet. Whens the last time you read the bible before saying what verse came from whom and so forth? You altough try reading it next time. It's a great book. A "baby" is fully formed by twelve weeks. Have you ever personally seen an ultra-sound. Their human.
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim
Yeah I know my mother loves me. God doesn't. If He did, I wouldn't have tried to commit suicide or have anxiety or depression. And no, I won't read the Bible because one: I cannot understand it and two: it's a waste of money. And I don't have time to read it. And I'm not Christian, I'm Wiccan so kiss my ass.
The fetus is not fully formed by twelve weeks, its lungs still need to be created and it nervous system as well. And no and I don't intend to. I'm adopting.
Kitsune1414 1 year ago
@Kitsune1414 "I wouldn't have tried to commit suicide or have anxiety or depression. "
No mention of God in that statement. I do see the word "I". Selfishness is the opposite of Love and suicide is the ultimate selfishness. I am sure your pagan religion will help you with that though.
croissantanyone 1 year ago
@Kitsune1414 If I were faced with adoption or abortion, I would choose adoption, not to mention that there are also a lot of wonderful, warm, strong and loving adoptive families or even foster homes out there who want children.
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim
I wouldn't. Abortion for the win! I fear prgnancy and hate birth. And if there are 'great' 'loving' adoption and foster families, then why the hell are there so many kids still up for adoption? Seriously, can you answer that?
Abortion is a good thing.
Kitsune1414 1 year ago
@Kitsune1414 Abortion is wrong. It is MURDER no if's ands or buts, it's wrong. Kitsune, have you ever really seen pictures of aborted babies? They are torn apart, burned alive, thrown into a trash can or lab jar with phemildahide, left in a soiled utility room to die silently by themselves. On top of that try watching a video of a baby being aborted. The baby actually pulls hers/himself away from the abortionists tools and actually fights them. I hope that seeing this would open your eyes
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim its not fully formed by 12 weeks it doenst get its brain until its 6th months thats when it starts about and if your getting your facts from the bible i suggest you use real facts called google and just search for things about when a baby is a baby and when it cant be aborted and
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 No by the 8th week the brain is formed, and my proof is from an ultra-sound. And about your suicide, I've been there but it's my faith in God's love for me that God me through me. Depression, done that too. I've been healed of my depression too. Suicidal feelings is a very painful thing to go through and most of the time it happens because of circumstances. The pain is beyond what anyone can imagine. But with God all things are possible. God still loves you.
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim if a mother doesnt want her child how well could she take care of it i mean to want it means you love it to not want it means that you dont love it so no i dont think the children would want to be born if they knew they wherent wanted
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 They would want a chance at being with a family who does love them.
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim well by forcing somebody to have the baby doesnt mean that they will grow up in a loving envoirment what abortion does is save everybody pain i grew up in a very abusive household and if somebody said they wanted to kill me i would say go right on ahead and most children that are aborted would be welfare children anyways and that means that your tax payer money would have to go to supporting them and more children on welfare means higher taxes and it means your taxes will be highered
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim what fetus means is a parasite that lives inside of the women or something going to be a child that could still easily be a misscarage and i have known women who know they are preg before 4 weeks and i have know idea where you come up with this shit but at 8 weeks that creature inside a women is nothing 6 ounces lofl a book weights more then that hell i think a pen weights more then that its nothing its not the size of a golfball thats y when illigal abortions where done most of the
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 I've been pregnant, that's how I learned of their size at that gestation. What you believe in is a lie. Try going to a nuetral obgyn. They will show you the actual size of an 8 week embryo, and it definitely is not the size of a lentil bean.
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim no it doesnt mean that what it means is that you have seen it in a magifine glass not what it accually looks like go google it you will see that a sonagram magnifies it so you can see whats inside you not its accual size and it cant be found when an illigal abortion is done a lot of the times and that is caz its so small and they have seen blown up pics of what it looks like so they think they can find it and they go to look they dont see anything eventhough its there
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 No, an obgyn can look inside and see the baby. It doesn't have to always be through an ultra-sound. Often there have been times when women have gotten pregnant again during the last trimester of their pregnancy, and the ob will go to do a vaginal exam after the one baby is born and find, oh yeah, surprise they are 10-12 weeks pregnant. Often the ob looks to see if the uterus has gone back to normal size and some will actually see that 10-12 week baby. Ask any ob.
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim they went wrong and left the fetus still in the mothers body its because they couldnt find it it was so small so dont put this lieing bull shit out there and its not a child it is something that can come out in a womens period still and that happens way more times then people know
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 Look at "my nine week abortion" That is an actual embryo. Yes it can come out in your period, especially when women do not know they are pregnant, and some women can find out they are pregnant when they are four weeks, but that is very rare. Usually by the time women find out they are pregnant, the baby is already almost fully formed already. This woman took the abortion pill, and she thought that she would pass blood clots, but it was her actual child instead.
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim right and all an abortion is is a wanted misscarage i cant believe you are a women against womens rights i mean siriously thats just fucked up you cant say that i cant have an abortion caz my family are a bunch of pricks and i dont want them to beat up on my baby like they did me thats just shitten wrong and its not almost fully formed not at all you siriously need to google your facts thats why its so easy to be done caz its a nothing and i have never heard of abortion pills
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim im not saying that abortion pills dont exist but if they do its of coarse you will have an abortion if you take them if a women wanted to keep her baby and took them i would say she is so stupid she doesnt deserve to have a child
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 Ugh, she wasn't dumb and a lot of women do this because they are mis-informed about the abortion pill. They think that they will pass blood clots. Planned Parenthood does not tell them that it will be an actual embryo that is not microscopic that they will be passing.
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 nobody kills children because if they did then they would be in jail and by making birth control not paid by the insurance companys its a way of saying you cant have sex
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 ppl kill children everyday, it's called abortion.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 abortion dont kill people illigal abortions kill people and fetus arent people they are parasites and if you dont no that then go do research a fetus isnt anything its a wanted miscarage when a women decides to get an abortion and miscarages happen all the time
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 ppl die naturally everyday, i can't kill others because i want to.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 yet the health insurance companys do every day not to mention that when abortion is illigal then people who are accually living get an illigal abortion and then they die trying to have them done so not only does the non existing thing not live if you even think it will live but the person who has that thing inside them doesnt get to live either so pro life that cock sucker
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 just because ppl do something illegal doesn't mean you legalize it. also, if the woman is helped get it done, not only did she not get in trouble for murder, she can go do it all over again. i'd rather HER die during an illegal abortion than her get pregnant and kill her child. don't confuse that with me not caring about her life....and just because you lost this debate doesn't mean you should result to name calling.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 first all yes it does why do you think so many people want to legalize pot its because the war on drugs isnt working and to have it be legal makes sense and also you are saying that you want higher taxes caz thats what will happen if we got rid of abortions not to mention that its always the women that gets stuck with the child while the father just leaves and doesnt pay for child support or anything they usually end up in jail but the jails are already over crowed thats
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 i'm not feeding the troll anymore. also, i'm not anti-choice because anti-choice is giving the baby no choice. and again, just because you lost this debate doesn't mean you should result to name calling. i'm done feeding the troll.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 its not a baby it cant breath on its own there for its not living and i am not the troll you are for going on to a page that is oviously for womens rights when your against giving women the right to choose and by not letting a women choose what to do with her body it is anti choise caz a fetus and baby cant choose after all i am for boys being able to choose if they want to be circumcised but the parents always make that choise for the babys and thats y america has the high
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 est percentage of circumcisions and that just proves that babys cant choose anything so you have just lost ever single arguement you put out there
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 i'm circumcised and i lost that choice but i had alot of other ones...also, i wasn't slaughtered.......and yes it is anti-choice to do it........NOW i'm done feeding the troll.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
its mutilation of the penis to be circumcised and its extremely painful and its wrong your missing a vain to your penis and having an abortion isnt being slaughted caz its not a fucking living thing the deffinition of living means that you can breath on your own and think on your own a fetus cant do that it doenst have any brain until its you cant get an abortion and its something at like 5 months when the brain starts to grow and also there is a theory that if your circumcised you are more
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 voilent that explains why you dont want women to have the same rights as guys do after all guys can just abandon living children who need to have a father in their lives but you dont think a women should be able to have that easy of a choise not to mention you said that women who get abortions should have to feel pain now thats just fucked up and gross you dont care about another persons life at all all you care about is making other peoples lives miserable
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 I've gone to a country where drugs and alcohol were legal, and it was actually more rampant and less controlled than it is here. I think pot should only be legal for certain circumstances, because it does help some people with serious medical issues, but the truth is our country is much better off because of the laws that we have, excluding the abortion law. Abortion is out of control because it is legal for any reason.
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
why a lot of people are only spending 2 weeks of their jail sentances in jail not to mention its a womens right to do whatever she wants to with her own body and you call yourself pro life isnt being pro life protecting somebodys life and your saying that you want accual living people to die you are discusting you are the one that doenst deserve to live not to mention you are trying to take away a womens constitutional right
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 Then that means the woman altough murder anyone who is dependent on her right? We are very pro-life and pro-woman. There are ways to save both a woman's health and a baby's life and there is help out there for any mom. Try looking into women's pregnancy centers which provides counseling, free diapers, baby clothes, maternity clothes, ultra-sounds, pregnancy tests, free cribs and other baby and mother needs. Besides I was one of those women whose health was at risk
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 I loved my little girl enough to let her live. Most women who are pregnant would do what they can to take care of themselves and their child, and when it comes down to it, they would put their child first, although still trying to keep themselves healthy. I had listeria, and both my daughter and I could have died. When they removed her via c-section, the listeria had begun eating at her body and had already eaten half of her placenta. Listeria is a parasite, not unborn babies.
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 But shouldn't that tell you enough that these little babies that we are hurting so much are fighters and whether they may cognitively understand it or not, they want to live. When I see pics of babies who are aborted, some of those babies were the same gestation that my daughter was born at, it really breaks my heart. But if you all want to continue your belief that it is o.k to abort unborn children, feel free, because it is not o.k and you will be judged.
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 It is never o.k to take a life because a woman wants to live the way that she wants to live. God bless everyone. He's the one that created us anyways. It should be His decision whether or not to take a life, not ours.
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim its not a life if you want to take it and plant it some place else and let it grow that is fine its not allowed in my body and its a parasite deffinition of parasite something that needs to use your body to live in hence a fetus is a parasite and instead of saying abortions are wrong maybe since your a women you should focus on making it so adobtion centers in america are better and easier to adobt from that is why there are so many people on the streets caz the adobtion centers suck
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim also more babys die in adobtion centers then you probably know not to mention that they mistreat the babys and mis diagnosis the babys with problems and thats how a decent amount of the deaths happen so why the hell should a baby and a mother have to suffer so badly and you said you kept your child think about if you had to give up that baby could you do it prob not but many people have to give up their babys and not keep them at all thats why they get the abortions
kazooga1234 1 year ago
A woman is not a life support system for a uterus. She is a sovereign, free human being who has a right to decide what's best for herself. The Founders believed in this too, as evidenced by the words "pursuit of happiness" and "liberty". Also, slavery (forcing a woman to provide physical service/servitude to a fetus or whatever you want to call it) is ILLEGAL due to the 13th Amendment. So any and all anti-choice legislation is, by definition, unconstitutional and anti-American
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 that thing i just pasted to you was by upstatenooyawkah and i have every right to call you a fucking useless peice of shit that wants to fuck the world up more then it already is go fucking suck cock you low life
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 /watch?v=PDDhBMguf3o&feature=sub that is a youtube link i think this guy does a good job explaining why he stopped being prolife and it might help you understand why abortions arent killing anything at all and you will prob like what this has to say about a new law that passed in a fucked up state that i cant stand thats destroying womens lives
kazooga1234 1 year ago
why dont you shut yours its the guys who are skanks they have their legs open way more then girls have theirs and i bet your against abortions so if your against abortions wouldnt you be for birth control after all it lessens the likelyhood of a girl having an abortion of coarse when guys like you gets a girl knocked up since you wouldnt do anything for that baby or the girl she should be able to have an abortion caz she wouldnt be able to take care of it herself and it will keep you out of jail
kazooga1234 1 year ago
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Women have the miraculous power to bring another human being into this world. It is a magnificent and sacred ability.
If you don't want that gift and responsibility... then get a hysterectomy! If you create another life accidentally... then give it to someone through adoption. But don't kill the child. That is what abortion truly is.
Pregnancy... is brutal. It means incredible sacrifice and love and pain and sorrow. But it is the most beautiful and noble thing women can do in this life.
Amulek1234 1 year ago
@Amulek1234 Amen! Thank you:)
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
right we have a power that we choose not to use and if we choose not to use it we shouldnt be forced to have an extreme presedure done when a simple harmless abortion can be done and abortions dont kill its people like you who kill because by making abortions illigal all it does it make it more likely for the brith givers to die when trying to get rid of whats in their stomachs or turn to drugs and get addicted trying to get an abortion another way you cant stop abortions only make them safe
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@Amulek1234 pregnancy accually isnt brutal not if a women wants it what you are trying to make women do is brutal you dont see us as people you see us as sex objects and i wont be anybodys sex object
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 She didn't say that. No one sees you as a sex object, at least not us. But she's right pregnancy is brutal for some women (I was one of them) but it's worth it because now I have a wonderful little baby girl. I would go through it again. I was sick most of my pregnancy and my daughter was born at 28 weeks premature. I had a very rare infection that almost killed her. It was not easy, she really is such a blessing in our lives and will always be.
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim news flash guys see girls as sex objects all the time the thing is a girl doesnt just have to be a sex object its only worth the pain caz you wanted to have the baby its not worth the pain if you cant afford the child and dont want it i have heard so many storys about women being forced to have their babys then killing them and then killing themselves one story you can look up is about this women who was forced to have a child and then she drowned it in a lake then drowned herself
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 I heard of that story, she suffered from post-partum, but that can happen even when mom's want their babies.
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 And by the way, I can't afford the my daughter, but I never aborted her because I love her. Most couples who have babies have a hard time being able to afford them. I really don't see not being able to afford them as an excuse to kill them. They are human and they are not parasites. I work in the medical field, I've been in a NICU and they are definitely not parasites.
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
well there are some girls that would either be homeless if they tried to have a child or would have to give up the baby i bet you also wouldnt put the baby up for a adobtion either there are many girls that also have to choose between having a baby and going to college and thats not fair either so they get an abortion for that reason and you seem to have a decent job that what about the girls that work at mcdonalds or something and
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim can barely afford anything and they are parasites if you dont want them and you also said that you have a guy in your life well think about if you didnt have that guy and thats what also happens to many girls and they cant handle taking care of a baby on their own and for that they shouldnt have to go through the pain when no fucking ass guy has to jack shit for that creature that shouldnt even be around caz the guy is such a fucking prick and wont use a fucking condom
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim
Hi, me again! How ya doin'?
Some people abort because they don't love the thing in them. They don't want it. I know if I got pregnant I'd abort cause I fear pregnancy and hate birth. And being unable to afford a reason to abort. They are human and they are parasites. The babies in the NICU are no longer parasites. They don't need a human body to care for their every need. As in Mother isn't the only one they need. Anyone can take care of them.
Kitsune1414 1 year ago
@LovedbcHim does that sound like its worth the pain or how about women who have MS and can be paralyzed and have their entire lives ruined and since they cant walk after having the baby they cant take care of the child or not as well or not without help you cant say that abortions are bad it shows that you have no idea how many women have gotten their lives fucked up from drugs or alchole trying to have abortions
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 My cousin has MS, and after she found out about the MS she got pregnant with twin girls. She is now an aerobics instructor who is in her 50's. She is also a grandmother now, because one of those girls had a baby boy. MS is a degenerative disease, and someone who has can be fine one day and then the next not be able to walk ever. But having those children did not make her MS worse. It only made things better.
LovedbcHim 1 year ago
I'd let those whores take turns sucking my cock.
iRewel 1 year ago
@iRewel not all women are whores and most of the girls that get knocked up and have abortions are because they believed they fell in love with a man who was so fine until she gets preg and he wants nothing to do with her or whats inside of her and thats when a girl gets an abortion
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 - Way to pull fake stats out of your ass. Girls don't get abortions because they were in love and got dumped. Do you think your mom would kill you if your dad left her? That's the same logic... or lack of logic, rather.
Abortions are always the result of irresponsibility, slut or not. Even the girls that get them aren't going to deny that.
iRewel 1 year ago
@iRewel i didnt pull fake stats out of my ass i can prove what i am saying and the guy wouldnt pay up you need to read annies baby if you think guys pay up listen to destinys child sweet sixteen siriously i wish my dad left fuck i wish i where dead at times i grew up in a horrible home and its caz the girls cant afford the child by themselves and most guys dont take responcibilitys for the babys that they make just watch the judge shows judge joe brown judge judy judge mathis all those guys
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 - Everything you just typed indicates that you're a clueless retard. Official statistics don't come from Judge Judy and Destiny's Child songs.
iRewel 1 year ago
@iRewel show up on those shows caz they are the loser sluts and most of the girls have only been with one guy and they just act as if the girl is a slut and the girl just thinks one time it wont get them preg and not many guys are like riley and accually take responcibilty for their mistakes your the a fucking slut yourself most guys are sluts not girls girls have to be in love before they have sex usually caz they like to make love guys however are emotionless fuckers
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 - That's a nice combo of illiteracy and incoherent rambling. Were you even trying to say anything or are you just banging on the keyboard with a hammer and posting whatever comes out?
iRewel 1 year ago
@iRewel its not just those satistics i cant send links in youtube so i can only give what little info i know that is easy for morons like you to go look up tell me what satistics you want me to find and i will send them to you in a PM and the reason i type like this is because it saves charaters and your just to much of an idiot to be able to read and if you even knew something called facts and really cared about people you wouldnt even be typing to me but you only care about causing more misery
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 - The reason you're the illiterate is because you're unbelievably stupid, which you continue to prove by quoting TV shows and songs as references.
Everything you type is stupid and you have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about, so why would I care if someone that couldn't pass 3rd grade English calls me a moron?
iRewel 1 year ago
your wrong your the one that cant read and like i said i used those caz i can accually put them into the comment section unlike links from google and i have every idea what i am talking about i also happen to know with abortion being legal that it has gone down a lot and same with teen pregnecy i have found that out in my reaseach i bet that is something you also didnt know and i type like this caz its the comment section and there is a limit and if it was a PM i would use puncuation
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@iRewel all that i get out of pricks like you is that if your 13 14 15 or 16 year old daughter got preg you would make them have a baby even if they didnt want it and if they didnt want it you make them drink themselves to death or go try drugs just so they can get an abortion on their own think it wont happen you will see it would happen just like that
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 - Wrong again. Maybe you shouldn't try figuring stuff out... you know, since you're unbelievably stupid and your only skill seems to be spewing gibberish. Seriously, did you skip every day of school? If you're over 8 years old, there's absolutely no excuse for being that clueless and illiterate.
iRewel 1 year ago
@iRewel im not wrong go watch the vlogbrothers latest upload its something hank did it was a prank call he made to somebody he prank called facts your the one that is spewing lies and fears just do some research it isnt that hard and i never skipped school and was always on time maybe thats why i can always pown your idiotic ass when you arent even part of nerdfightera but then again we dont want scumbags trying to take away womens rights
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 - More stupidity from an idiot. Real shocker.
Right... you were a real genius in school, which explains why you can't even form a single sentence that makes sense. How could I forget that incoherent rambling and illiteracy are the signs of brilliance.
The fact that you just said "pown" while making an ass out of yourself should be enough to convince even an idiot like you that you're not very bright.
iRewel 1 year ago
your the stupid one that doesnt believe in facts and i dont use puncuation caz it takes up more room in the comment section and i like to only leave one comment if you typed to me in a PM then i would use correct grammer and puncuation your the one that keeps telling me that i am wrong when i can prove how right i am prove me one fact that you say there is no way you can get your stuff is just made up bullshit and i like using pown caz im a gammer and i am way smarter then you will ever be
kazooga1234 1 year ago
@kazooga1234 - No, you're just an illiterate moron that's incapable of saying anything intelligent. Spelling everything wrong doesn't save space, so you need to come up with a new excuse for that one. Or just admit you're an idiot.
iRewel 1 year ago
@iRewel if i am so illiterate how come i can read what you type not to mention that you are the moron for ignoring facts like the fact that abortion and teen pregncy is down or how about the fact that getting an abortion is a womens constitutional right and to quote a republican named ronald ragen (i dont no if i spelt that right and i dont care) "facts are stubborn things" and that is because facts are truth and you cant argue with them and then call yourself smart like you are attempting to do
kazooga1234 1 year ago
/watch?v=FTK7lC72I04 this also proves that its the loser guys fault of why abortions are needed and i think the satistics that get said will also help you see how much abortions are needed to keep taxes down and things like that
kazooga1234 1 year ago
Good insurance shouldn't as a collectivist system pay for female problems with taxpayer money. No abortions or birth control. I am not paying as a man for shit that not my gender's problem.
ToxicOdiousOne 1 year ago
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@ToxicOdiousOne says: insurane shouldnt pay for female problems with tax payers money.
~~~~~~~~~~~ That will happen when women dont have to put out tax money for mens prostate cancer treatments! Deal?
Sueezee1 1 year ago