Alex Joneses 4 Jesus and Peter Joseph Zeitgeist 2/4 - Venus project vs NWO

[xenuisot3]

zeitgeist stinks and sucks anonymous rocks

[oeruli]

I hope you don't mind me asking about the music you are listening to while you are making your discussion points. I feel like it is and off topic question, but I'm curious because it sounds like the kind of music I like to listen to.

I find your discussion to be interesting, and after watching the interview, it's good to hear this. Although it was really in part 1 where this would have been more appropriate, the idea of evil babies is hilarious and absurd. The competition points are interesting.

[jystyle]

good analysis dude much respect!!

[mauriciosthilaire456]

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[micap20078]

how can alex be friends with david icke when he doesnt listen to a word he says peter is no different to icke?

[socratiz]

@micap20078

Hey Brother!

Could you please tell me if youve seen any acknoledgement of ZM/VP by Icke?

Im really curious as to how Icke is responding to the issue. Thanks for your comment. I would have to agree based on my familiarity with Ickes perception of life.  Have you watched the Zeitgeist London Conference?

[micap20078]

hi

david icke quote "christianity is part of the conspiracy not the solution to it. i accept that is zeitgeist is right".

im not suprised

icke has used achaya s zeitgeist sources many times yrs b4 the movie.

shame alex hasnt noticed or hes just playing dumb.

im worried hes mislead many david icke fans into his own beliefs just like i was.

ive not heard icke talk about the venus project.

[socratiz]

thanks dude,

Ya. On the 1st Zeitgeist I can easily imagine Icke is on the same level.

Addendum is a whole other issue. Strange he hasnt acnkowledged it. Maybe hes scared. Scared about what the venus problem could mean in terms of a new understanding of the world he has percieved around him. I think he'll be fine. Hes alex's opposite in many ways. Hes shown he has no problem in transcending his own belief system because of inconcievable evidence pointing in a certain direction.

[micap20078]

hi i dont think david icke would be scared hes a marxist and looking forward to massive change in the system . i think hes the type that stands on his own and doesnt want to get involved in venus p yet and has avoided taking sides. or perhaps he just hasnt made his mind up yet.

ill let you you know if i hear what he thinks

[BabyCanaryYelllin]

@socratiz Zeitgeist IS bankers! See -  "David De Rothschild @European Zietgeist 2007"

Scarcity is FAKED to scare & control you!

Pygmes have NO word for 'famine'! they cant believe people starve!

ROTHSCILDs are using eugenicist Peter Joseph to describe OBVIOUS mess of THIS system MADE by Rothschild & co & their DELIBERATELY staged 'crisis' - to close system down & make way FOR WORSE GLOBAL BANK CONTROL+ dress it up as 'tracking" & FAKE 'science' & FAKE pod-homes to FOOL YOU!

[BabyCanaryYelllin]

@socratiz If poor environment effects people WHY are TRILLIONAIRES Rockefeller & Rothschild in luxurious homes the WORSE WARMONGERING PSYCHOPATHS?

Zeitgeist parrot SHEEP - see links under my featured vid! You're being FOOLED AGAIN! 

[socratiz]

@BabyCanaryYelllin

Again?.... hmmm.... Parrot Sheep? hmmmm.. judging by your character, it is you who are fooling yourself.

I would definitely not recommend generalizing everything. Its not always so simple. Poor environments r not just described through poverty, by self destructive, poorly prioritized, ego centric belief systems. In fact, poor psychological environments r more destructive then external environments.

Follow the rabbit hole all the way & look into eastern science.

[socratiz]

@BabyCanaryYelllin

U bring up an interesting paradox. When u eat meat, do u realize u r taking part in 1 of the most destructive & brutally violent industries in history? R u Vegan? In fact. We feed over 40B animals a year; food that could b given directly 2 humans. People consciously participate in this industries existence, yet, they justify it cause they r simply carrying on conditioned belief systems. As the trillionaires r. Truth is, we've no idea what their life perspective is.

[ivannagib]

Brilliant vid man. Keep it up! ;)

Ya know i havnt found one plausible argument against TVP and the zeitgeist movement. They are all just people claiming it to be communism or some religious fanatic claiming we're all the devil! haha so yeah no one has come up with an arguement that makes sense really at all! :)

[Jared1981b]

Check out this lecture I came across the other day. Its pretty informative on what is the primary influence of human behavior. /watch?v=3vMC3TPuOOo

[kirlianrose]

We are all born good and are tempted to do evil things. Babylon equals confusion. The apocalypse is the revealing. I just see to many prophecies coming true.

[realitychecking1]

To say Alex has been corrupted and conditioned is indesputable, haven't we all been? He comes from a state of capitalists good-ole-boys and his primitive tendencies rear their head every now and then, but I think some of what he says is realistic.I think we have the capabilities of so much more positivity and human "oneness", but we have to be realistic about the rest of humanity. Not everyone has evolved in the same respect. Likely,more people are like Alex than Peter, but they both mean well.

[graceesty]

The infowars zeitgeist divide is confusing. There's no reason why someone can't be part of the z-movement a 911 truther and an infowarrior.I have great respect for both equally. Hopefully alex and peter will compromise there ideologies and unite the revolution.

[hibobslay]

its not a compotition if you compete against yourself, i dont get how you come to that conclusion.

[socratiz]

@hibobslay

think about Billiard. most of the game has nothing to do with the other person. The same with chess. Yes.

Let alone all the other ways you work off the reference point created by your own progress. the focus becomes progress and not beating the other person. Thats all that changes.

[Vegastr8dope]

This is wild, You Tube actually recommended this video for me! I watched it when you first put it up. I dunno, maybe proof that you tube works, LOL. Love & Gratitude, Rob and the Family

[Masterbeat69]

Money sarved as well as a tender easying the goods changing need, but now money got to go, its just not updated for present and with the money gone so as the corruption and with the corruption gone so the elite and with them gone so is NWO

[Largo64]

The world envisioned here is that of Star Trek. The competition on earth has ceased, and now exploration of the cosmos is truly possible.

But for such a society to be possible in the real world, religion would have to go as well. As long as one man regards another as one his god hates, there will always be war. Gods have got to go. Good comes from people, not from gods.

[dualberettas]

Just have to be careful as the elites start to infiltrate truth with half truth to catch people's attention but still keep them in the dark...

The elites will want to control whatever the new technology/barter system is...

[Elbert51]

And what I mean by that is that is why the Elite who are few controlling the many become the way they do. They stubbornly insist only because of their power and conclusions that they have the right way the only way and will not open to new ideas and solutions from others. In essence their heads go the direction of the divine. And no human or set of humans are God. God is in all of us and therefore we need all to be represented.

[Elbert51]

And just to finish my comment Alex Jones and Peter Joseph are two crusaders of our times. I feel both have great points, and of course differences. If Religion as one example will interfere to invalidate their great insights and findings valid to their missions we are all doomed, We cannot let our focal points and convictions undermine or invalidate all the good of the other. This is where we have to rise above ourselves and see ourselves closer. If not we are no different as the Elite.

[Elbert51]

It is the few Elite or in power that control the many that creates a big problem. More have to be involved in all sectors of society to be able to come up with the issues and ideas that keep things on the path of resolve even though it will never be final.  This is like knowledge, or truth there is no one solution or truth. These are existences of eternal or infinite breadth. To make it short changes are inevitable, because nothing stays constant and many have to be in the control of resolve.

[Elbert51]

This is a very complex debate, or discussion into what has to be done. Genetics, enviroment, conditioning, programing, good and evil, etc. It is a godly task to come out with a perfect solution with imperfect humanity. So the minds have to come together and grasp the best of all ideas, philosophies, and solutions. It means we never attain any sort of solution for all or perfect or satisfying to all but continue to construct and reconstruct open ideas for the betterment of all.

[greggb777]

The question is how hardwired is competition in the brain? Can it really just be conditioning? But if it is hardwired, we can reframe it into sports or outside enemies like the elements.

[greggb777]

I just worry that only a small percentage of people can grasp this notion. This is advanved thought. How would you deal with the resistence? Religious people have NO chance of understanding the realities of the world, because they live within a delusion.

[NewVenusUtopia]

This is a great video. Truth is often the hardest thing to hear. My whole life I have been bred to compete with people. I formally withdraw myself from this system, which will actually take time, but in time i believe we will acheive what peter joseph sees for us.

Good luck everybody! Remember, It starts with you and me!

"We must become the change we want to see in the world".

-Mohandas Gandhi.

[imslicc]

the environment that will be created in a resource-based economy would have its own natural law. abundance will be a natural law. and like gravity, it would take a major interference in order to change this natural law.

[kazatel23]

Psychopats and murderers are symptoms of materialistic system where we live.

[freedomfightertwo]

And you are right about corruption. In the American political system, it's very easy to bribe politicians and get them to do your bidding.

[freedomfightertwo]

We have the technology to run cars on air, but the major oil corporations will not let this get out.

[heal2012]

Alex appears to be experiencing the messiah complex..

[ancestralblue]

We are entering a different time, as your though processes reflect. We're leaving a time in which our species lived exoterically. We thought that all of the reasons that we were what we were was because of the other guy. And so, we sought to control him. Now, we're beginning to understand that the type of life that we live is really a frequency generated life that is the result of belief patterns that sets a magnetic field in which we operate. Any real change we seek is found there.

[rp6107]

Competition that is based to profit off another and to keep them down seems to be the big downfall when it comes to competition. The earth is a big electromagnet. When you pay your Electric Bill, you are paying for a temporary pulse or transmission. The fact of denying home owners due to associations the right to put up different forms of wind energy because of cosmetic purposes or charging land owners that own their own well money to drink the water. Those in power keep scarcity going.Foodngas.

[rp6107]

You are correct on so many points. The technology that we have and the internet is giving those of us seeking the truth to join with others and seek the information we desire at a faster rate than ever before in history. The division thru money and religion is absolutely sickening, But as Drunvalo Merchizedek wrote about man going from 42+2 to 46+2, we being at 44+2 are disharmonic and destructive to ourselves and nature, but we are necessary as seen in the geometries to achieve higher growth.

[righteouspolitics80]

i agree but disgusting would be a little strong for me. i think we should respect the ways and thought proceses we all have regardless of ego or bias. if we can accept our beliefs and share information then we all can benefit. liek a multi faceted approach to a problem, as opposed to a singlr approach. furthermore, an arbitrator in control of who dictates what,is always tyrannical whether it be from either perspective of good or evil. sorta like one mans hero is anothers villian and vice versa.

[righteouspolitics80]

i think it has to be the ego that manifests most of the problems. having a high esteem makes the person feel good i would think. so anything that makes that esteem to be bolstered is what that person will do. so if people become complacent and find that pleasure can be achieved through feeling better that someone else , it will never be eliminated.

[righteouspolitics80]

very good analysis. well thought out. although i do think alex disagreed on this point of the society based on abundance because of the state it creates. when people feel that they are in a secure enviroment they let their guard down, and if evil is not proven to be solely on the environment, people can be vulnerable to tyranny eventually. so having that instinct for survival could morph into evil. just as contentment can morph into boredom which further can morph into something else.

[dellsprospects22]

i think they see all of us as a threat to their elite eutopian idealism and use scarcity to justify their immoral disregard for the horrendous things they do like starvation wars etc..also a great way for them to keep going to the bank..but to them it's more like we're the threat to their environment, and they don't consider us significant (but don't worry too much about the shock jock)

[Nebulous1982]

lol. I thought the earlier video really showed how you spoke! Turns out it was a technical issue. Thnx for sharing your views. I am working on an extensive response to addendum. It's called: The Muslim Response to Zeitgeist Addendum. Everyone, plz subscribe to have the videos delivered straight to you.