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  • ISLAM IS WRONG! ALLAH DOES NOT EXIST! MUHAMMAD PLAGIARIZED MOST OF THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE & CALLED IT THE QURAN! HE TOOK OUT PARTS OF THE BIBLE & ADDED HORRIBLE STUFF & LIES LIKE KILL THE INFIDELS, 72 VIRGINS & OTHER JUNK CRAP! MUHAMMAD CALLED JESUS CHRIST A GREAT PROPHET & VIRGIN BIRTH! CHRIST WHO CAME 700YRS BEFORE HIM SAID THE BIBLE IS SEALED & CLOSED & ALL OTHERS ARE FALSE PROPHETS (MUHAMMAD IS FALSE & EVIL!) RUN FROM ISLAM TO THE ONLY TRUTH JESUS CHRIST FOR ETERNAL LIFE VISIT cbn.com /podcast

  • DON'T BE LIBERAL MORONS! Muslims faithful to ISLAM believe murdering Infidels (Non-believers) ensures them a spot in heaven. They are the most gullible people ever to walk the planet. Faithful to a ideology of hate that has gone unchanged since Neanderthals became infidels. Don't give thse morons a foot hold in this country. They will impose Shitty Law to rule. They Lynch, Murder, Rape, Sodomise, Mutulate sex organs, Stone, there family members. WHAT CHANCE DOES A INFIDEL STAND? WAKE UP PEOPLE!

  • Islam is a religion based on destroying others.

  • banchood mother-fucking ahmedia..is a great deception..within real context of islam...no doubt ahmedi are worst than non-belivers...as they even changed the meaning of muslims holy book

  • I'm ex muslim and ahmadyya are truly peacefull that's why muslim kill them in there countries

  • muslms dogs

  • @pakistanarchitect: The ahmadiyya community believes that Hazrat Muhammad s.a.w was last prophet who would bear the shria laws.The Islam of our Holy Prophet will propagate to the far corners of the world. We, ahmadi's believe that with all our hearts.

  • (سُوۡرَةُ الاٴحزَاب) (surah/ch:33, Verse: 40)(سُوۡرَةُ النِّسَاء) (surah/ch:4, Verse: 157,158,159), (سُوۡرَةُ المَائدة) (surah/ch: 5, Verse: 117), (سُوۡرَةُ عِمرَان آل) (surah/ch:3, Verse: 55) (سُوۡرَةُ الاٴعرَاف)‏ (surah/ch:7, Verse: 40,41).... U Ahmadiz will realize one Day, Day of Judgement Allah will destroy u soon.... u ppl r not allow to enter In Makkah n Madina, inshallah v will protect Khatme Nabwaat... Inshallah n v r protecting since 1400.... plz come to true Islam!

  • @takewhole

    You explanation totally wrong n illogical. Get some knowledge about ahmadiyya muslims then comment on youtube.

    Goto alislam.org

  • Ahmadis dont understand why they kaffir let me explain it to them. Imagine a dumb fuck in say mongolia is born into a muslim family then when he grows up he says he is imam mahdi and then as the mahdi he decides that some of the laws of islam need to be changed. He decides muslims can eat pork, can indulge in idol worship...would u ahmadis accept him? In the same way we dont accept your fake sheikh, no matter how u try to justify him. Allah & Muhammad saws shud be the only names on your tongue

  • @takewhole lol are you for real ? or a patient at a hospital for the retarded, why i ask with sincerity is one whats laws did Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) change ? two when did he allow pork to be consumed ? three where and how did he allow idols to be worshiped stop listening to those that are leading you to no where by the fires of hell and research yourself with prayers to the Almighty alone for guidance.

  • @takewhole imaging a fucking serial criminal called mohammed "intellegent in his time only ,cause he looks dumb now" fucked my life cause I was born muslim ,what I should do ,I should tell all the people that I didn't knew that I was following a criminal like mohamed ,Ahmadyya are in some ways better but any way fuck mohammed the criminal the sex lover

  • God is great-Ahmadiyya people love the country they live in. Ahmadiyya of USA will always remain loyals of USA! God is great!

  • Islam is at right angles with western culture. Most do not assimilate into western civilation, they build seperate enclaves within the communities.

    Three choices with the spread of Islam: Convert to Islam (often at the point of the sword), dhimmitude, or death. Guys read the Koran, all of the peaceful and tolerant verses were abrogated by Mohammad's revelations in Medina, once he had become a very wealthy and powerful warlord.

  • @eport - Wow you have opend my eyes it is all so clear now...in case you're wondering I am being sarcastic.

    First of all leaving such as comment on a video regarding the Ahmadiyya community shows your own ignorance, secondly if Islam is truly spread by the sword just explain to me one simple fact: How come the most populus Muslim nation in the world (Indonesia with 200 million muslims) is muslim without an Arab Army ever setting foot on its shores?...cntd

  • @eport - Also you prepetuate the 'abrogation' myth which is just utter nonsense, I suggest you read Prophet Muhammed's final sermon before coming to such a utterly derile conclusion.

    Also you say the abrogation was due to his supossed increase in wealth? If he was a man of material gain do you not think he would have accepted the Chiefhood of the Quraish tribe when he was offered even before the inception of Islam, rather than enduring hardship and persecution throughout his old age?...

  • @eport - Prophet Muhammed started preaching at the age of 40, considiring the average life expectancy of 1400 years ago was 30-35 he was in perspective very old.

    He had all the wealth at his disposale yet he shunned it and turned to a life of 'ridicule'.

  • Stop these evil rat breeding fuckers from travelling and the problem will be solved.

  • @draussie - Sometimes I find it amazing as to how incompetent some people are. Do you trawl the web to leave offensive comments in hope that it will give some moral highground in your meaningless life?

    First of all if you knew anything about the Ahmadiyya Community you would not have left such a moronic comment, and secondly who the hell cares about religions.

    Religions like any other ideology is nothing but a bogus mechanisms to control the yearning masses.

    Baffoon!

  • No community is more peaceful than the Ahmaddiya community.

  • @Saifullah65 Prophet Muhammad pbuh and his sahabah ikraam are also ban to Mecca. So it is not the parameter of judgement. God put a parameter of the truthfulness of our beloved prophet Hazrat Muhammad pbuh *THAT SEE ME I HAVE SPENT A LONG TIME PERIOD OF MY LIFE IN YOU! WHY YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND* (roughly meanings) So Hazrat Mirza Ghulam ahmad of Qadian was also a very very pious person and have a deepest pain of Islam in his heart, so that he defeated the Christians. But when he claimed ......

  • Muslims are complacent to barbaric acts and traditions & justify it as "religion". It's a line of crap allowing them passage to apathetic countries. The Muslim movement brings with it traditions;

    - Muslims justify female circumcision & beatings.

    - Muslims justify Honor Killings".

    - Muslims justify Killing Gays & infidels (Non-Muslims).

    - Muslims support - Multiple wives & Child Brides. ***** AMERICA WAKE UP ***** Its called Islamification

  • The most barberic, the most cruel, the most hateable is the Government of America (not common people), American government kills, torture and destroy the whole nations, countries and million of people in mass murders. Just look around and annalyse.

  • Parts of the American Government are corrupt that's for sure. BUT our Constitution & Bill of Rights forbids much of what they do. THE REAL PROBLEM is Americans whom are uneducated & apathetic. AND the ones whom live under the grace of our founding documents have become lazy couch potatoes.

    Still there is no excuse for the Radical Muslims actions.

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  • its facts in news

    its not pakistani media

    only see with one eye

  • ahmadiyya followers are not muslims, their punishment will the hell fire !

  • woww....for once Foz news did not report something stupid and brought sane people for interviews

  • Thekria, we and other muslims don't answer to you.  We will answer to God, not douches like you.

  • well said

  • and who do ypou think you are to say that ahmadi are not muslims? check you're facts before you open you're trap

  • WE MUST NOT ALLOW MUSLIM IMMIGRATION 2 GROW IN AMERICA!these people should live in there own area's,because insurgents & Shari'a will tag along w/ANYONE WANTING A NEW LIVE,hides AMONG peaceful muslims threating them if they cause problems!SO HARBOR UNWILLING,but do so anyways! WITHOUT contacting the police.IF THEY WOULD STAND UP AND TAKE OWNSHIP OF THIS PROBLEM TO STOP THE TERROR THEY WOULD BE WELCOME! INSTEAD CALL OUT RACISM HOLD ANTI-U.S RALLY THE FIGHT BUILDS & IT'S THE M.EAST,SAME AS EUROPE

  • our prophet Muhammad(pbuh) says . that after me there will be 30 false prophet and all of them claim that we are tehe prophets and all them would be the biggest lyers ever lived

  • hmmm....what is the criteria for declaring someone false prophet? What should happen to person who do not accept the divinly guided prophet?

  • Ahmadis are root of all terror and should be dealt with aptly. They are undercover extremist agents who want to convert the world to the way of the false ideology about time western governments banned these people just like all other extremist groups.

  • " Ahmadis are root of all terror and should be dealt with aptly. "

    Hmm.... try posting that on a website for mad people cos I am sure even a 5 year old in his proper senses wouldn't believe that.

    The root of all evil is ignorance, irrationality and the lack of reasoning.

  • No offence goldstein, think we all know it's ignorance glad you admit that. Hence as demonstrated by the ignomorous community of Ahmadis/qadianeesTry posting on 'a website for mad people' It's a free public domain considering the ahmadis protest of being surpressed so please do not try and instruct me on how my freedom of speech should be executed. It's a proven fact senior positions within the Pakistani intelligence is occupied by AhmadisQadianies to cleverly divide Muslims and spreaD rancour

  • " It's a proven fact senior positions within the Pakistani intelligence is occupied by AhmadisQadianies to cleverly divide Muslims and spreaD rancour "

    ROFL!-man, are you on drugs? Which world do you live in? Ahmadis holding high positions in ISI? hahaha.

    Ok that was a good joke- if Ahmadis ever held high positions in ISI then there is no chance the Taleban would have gotten into Pakistan, we all know (by the grace of Allah) Ahmadis are way smarter than the current bearers of that office

  • There is a proof that you guys can reach on higher positions in Pakistan some times openly, some times under cover. MM khan and Zafrullah are examples.

  • drugs? Sorry dnt take drugs it was Mirza your guru who was a self confessed opium user :) 007Yuni has presented you with facts. For years the famous drink brand shazan ran successfully until it was discovered qadianis owned it and plouged the money into various terror activities, which the pakistani populice then boycotted. :)

  • As if enough mosques did not exist? How contradictory the Dr Zafar in the video states; 'we believe peaceful co-existant yet they want to impose themselves on this community of 5,000. Qadiani places are not referred to as mosques but they themselves call them 'bait ul khalas'

  • You know what is the difference between you and Islam or what you guys tried to do with islam.

    For example If somebody cooks a delicious dish with all halal ingredients and halal meat and put only few slices of pork in it. So this will make the whole thing wrong.

    and that is what Qadiyaniat is. Trying to add up wrong things in islam.

  • Making baseless statements won't change the truth, we've had a long conversation and not once have you been able to prove anything.

    I don't understand why you are so inclined towards the mullahs that have been proven to be hypocrites.

    I wish you the best of luck in your life and I hope that all humans find the truth, whatever it is, just remember that on earth you can avoid the truth but in the hereafter there is no avoiding it.

    It was good talking to you, Allah hafiz.

  • Listen! every time you asked for proof/references i gave them. I even showed you the video proof from your own khlifah about the Dajjal.

    Let me give an example about you . Once you said that you will not gonna accpt me muslim unless i believe on your false massih on the other hand at other place you called Sunni and Shias as brothers...What is that? you are truely following Mirza.

    any way Allah tumhain hidayat dai.

  • " Listen! every time you asked for proof/references i gave them. "

    Like from the book whose credibility you couldn't defend yourself?

    " I even showed you the video proof from your own khlifah about the Dajjal "

    In which you had clearly misinterprated what he said - I corrected you on that.

    " Once you said that you will ... Sunni and Shias as brothers "

    All people of the book who are righteous are our brothers.

  • Go and read all my comments from both videos you will see that you tried to prove me a Non Muslim with your own statement.

    You are suffering from some kind of dementia

  • I am not denying that I called you a non-muslim, indeed I did, to be a muslim you need to believe in the Promised Messiah(as) - don't get offended but can you be a muslim if you don;t believe in Essa(as)? Of course not, same applies to the Promised Messiah (as).

    What I said was Ahmadi Muslims don't harbor hatred for someone based on their religion, and if the person belongs to a group that has been called "people of the book" then we are even closer to him/her.

  • Thats good, I just wanted to show other muslims that "what are your (qadiyanies) actual views about Muslims"

    So you call us Ahle -kitab non muslims this mean hahaha thats funny.

  • Ahl-e-kitab because you read the Holy Qur'an (although you understand nothing) and belief in the Holy Prophet(saw) although you don't abide by his teachings.

  • And for us you are just follower of Kazzab.

  • To the Jews, Christians and Idol worshipers - Muslims were just followers of a liar (nauzubillah). Did that affect the Muslims in anyway? Of course it didn't, even today comments of people like you don't affect Muslims :).

    You just keep proving time and again that you are no different from those that have opposed every Prophet (as).

  • I dont care what you think of me. Keep following the Kazzab.

  • Pray to Allah that if Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) was a liar then his Jam'aat should come to an end, and also pray that if he is true then you should come to an end and then see the destruction you'll face.

    Are you blind, can't you see anything? The Islamic Empire has fallen, the ummat is in tatters, weak and feeble, Saudi Arabs who control Mecca are begging non-muslim nations for protection .... was this the state of Islam during the time of Holy Prophet(saw) and the guided ones?!

    Wake up!

  • Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad? tell me where in the quran or in hadith can be found?..total nonsens!

  • Did you see Rohaanay kahazain about the Mirza dawah of marriage with widow and virgin?

  • You didn;t also answer the question Did mirza married a virgin and a widow?

    It is very simple

  • I have 1 more question

    I know you cant even answer my first question

    Question is Mirza said during my life I will marry 1 widow and 1 virgin. How much true is that?

  • " I know you cant even answer my first question "

    Heh - I don't even know what your first question was, you are so mixed up, ask it again and I'll definitely answer it.

    " Question is Mirza said during my life I will marry 1 widow and 1 virgin "

    Can you point out where he said that? These mullahs keep posting rubbish on their sites and they've been proven liars so many times .... bring references of where the Imam Mahdi(as) said that.

  • I am giving a reference now that where he said

    " Its a God intenrion that He will bring 2 ladies into my wedlock. 1 will be the virgin and other widow. Therefore this inspiration that is related to Bikr (virgin), It has been fulfilled, and presently by the grace of GOD, I have 4 sons from this wife. I am still waiting for the fulfillment of the inspiration regarding widow"

    Roohany Khazain Vol 15 page 201.

    Mirza never married a widow

  • LOL - irshad . org -- the destination for all lost souls.

    My friend, even seasoned anti-ahmadiyyat debaters like karimwithlove have accepted that irshad . org is full of lies. Go read the books yourself and come back when you have evidence.

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  • the real enemy of islam is not christian or jews or the west.

    the real enemy of islam thers two of them .

    1-freedom of speak

    2-freedom of choice.

    islam never work fine with freedom.

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  • Muslims and Islam look bad to people because of AMERICA. The government of America is controlled by the Illuminati, the all seeing eye (Look at your dollar, there is a pyramid on there with an eye). Please, please search up about "Illuminati" on YouTube, you will see how horrible these people are, they are the ones who do attacks such as 9/11 just to enforce more security. They want to implant the entire population with an RFID chip.

    The media uses psychology to make muslims look bad.

  • You are bull shit. America doesnt make muslums look bad, its the retards that run around and blow themselves up killing other muslims and American troops. Of course you would blame it on America, because thats what all countries do when something goes wrong. We all see what happens when muslims try to rule a country....They end up killing themselves on an ages old despute about one fuking person at one point in history. Middle Easterners are the only ones killing over religion these days.

  • You are definitely uneducated. Learn how our government kills our own people. Illuminati are the 13 wealthiest bloodlines which have controlled this world for a very long time.

    You are brainwashed by the media, you have never seen a Muslim blow himself up; only in movies. Congratulations on your logic and knowledge. :)

    America is run by Freemasons.

  • Im uneducated? Have you read the comment you just posted? How the hell am I brainwashed? you are a fucking lunatic. Think whatever you want though...Fucking Rag head

  • We should try to be peaceful in both thoughts and actions. Allah is the Judge, not us. Peace does not mean perfection. It is the state of acceptance or tolerance for others existence and choices.

  • who gave u the right to call people muslims or not. your hatred come from jealousy.

    the ahmadies shall progress no matter what opposition there is. its Gods promise.

    no one can interfere with Gods plans.

    Peace be on You

  • now thats Freedom of speech!!

    no worries about Be-headings!!

  • thanks for sharing!

  • This vid is from 9 months ago, what happenned in the end??? Did they let us build the mosque?

  • are you ahmediya????

  • what does that have to do with the question i asked?

  • nothing..im just asking because commented on this specific video .i wanted to sate that ahmediya/qadiyani are not accepted and recognized as muslims in the muslim world.

  • the world's opinion or point of view is worthless/meaningless next to the Allah's or the Holy Prophet's (saw). It is for Allah to decide who is muslim, n who isnt, not the world. And if you have a strong faith, and want it to be deep rooted, then follow the HP's advice (u may have heard this before):

    (cont...)

  • cont...

    Abu Dawood

    ? Book 14, Number 2526:

    The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; (cont...)

  • ...and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree."

    May Allah make you a guided one of true faith, and prevent you from being brainwashed by people with ill-intentions (be that ahmadi, or mainstream muslim scholars, either way) Ameen

  • You are saying so because you completely ignore our beliefs

  • of course i ignore your beliefs i dont want to be part of you i am a sunni i follow only the prophet (pbuh) thats it .people like you divide the umma

    KUFFAR

  • Ignorant as u are should not be speaking like this. Better u go and at least know about what we are all about. We too follow the Holy Prophet. Our whole jamaat follow the Holy prophet. no one can describe the better than we do it. We have a leader who has been appointed by god and he told us to pray Allah for opponents of ahmadiyyat, because you are from the Ummah of the Holy Prophet. We pray you ignorants to see light from Allah and accept the Mahdi and Messiah

  • We divide the umma? Have you ever heard of an Ahmadi suicide bomber blowing himself up in a shia or sunni mosque on Friday?

    Your so-called umma has been so nicely divided by your own extremist mullahs that no one could have done a better job.

    Wake up - the umma you talk of does not exist - only suicide bombers, illiterates, uncivilized creatures exist there.

    If there is an umma then it is the Ahmadiyaa Muslim Jamaat.

  • not just dividing , triyng to make alterations also. Why they are calling them selves Muslims

  • because they are muslim

  • Who? ......YOu mean Qadiyanis

  • yes prophet muhammed said who read kalma he is a muslim dont call him kafir they believe in one allah and his last prophet but different is they said mehdi came u believe he will come

  • All the time I see the change in statements. Some pple I saw from your jamat calling him massih, some pple call him mehdi and some pple call him prophet (naozobillah). Even in his own books he changed so many faces. I feel pity for you because you are following him/ his so called khalifah because you born in a Qadiyani family and thats what your parents told you.

  • no bro. u cant blaime this im not ahmadi im thinking to convert and whatever u said he changing his face calling hm prophet what u believe mehdi messiah be and he call him self a servant of prophet

  • Thats your choice whether to choose jannaat and Jahanam. Any way I still think that you are a qadiyani and pretending to be not

  • " Thats your choice whether to choose jannaat and Jahanam "

    Look at how they talk, as if they are the masters of God and would decide who goes to heaven and who goes hell.

    Whoever you are 007yuni, I don't think you have the power to even harm me in the least against the will of Allah let alone decide whther I go to heaven or hell.

  • If do follow the right path you will go to Jannat but if you will follow the wrong path then its very much clear. So where did I say that I am the 1 who is gonna decide that ....

  • bro. i dont need to lie if i did then allah knows best

  • OK thats your choice bottom line is that Mirza was a planned seed from British Government during 19th century to convince pple and stopping them from fightting against british Govt. He started as a Mubbaligh an later converted to mehdi, Massih and Noauzubillah prophet.

  • 16:113 alawayse people treat them liar same history repeating now a

  • " Ahmadiyyat was a planted seed of the British Government. "

    Whos mullahs *kept reporting* the Imam Mahdi (as) as dangerous to the government rule ? Was it not your sicko mullahs?

    A leader of your Ehle-Hadees sect Maulvi Muhammad Hussain Sahib writes:

    [Ishaatus Sunnah, Vol. VI, No. 10]

    For the Muslims of India it is forbidden to oppose or rebel against the British Government.

    Now tell me who the British seed is.

  • Well Mirza was a big time ass kisser of British government. Thats y you guys have a big Hub in England

  • To 23sfrb:

    Stay firm on your faith, don't let these evil minions of satan like 007yuni mislead you.

    Do your research well and if you have any questions ask them and then make your decision.

  • So pple like you decide who is Satan and who is not..... amazing

  • Absolutely not.

    No human can ever know what's in the heart of another, no one can ever tell the true intentions of another person how then can one judge the other as satan.

  • "don't let these evil minions of satan like 007yuni mislead you"

    hahah I am showing you a mirror and keep your famous trade mark in mind "Love for all hatred for none"

  • " hahah I am showing you a mirror and keep your famous trade mark ... "

    Love for all hatred for none does not mean that we should allow you to mislead others. What it means is we should never hate anyone for what they are or what they do, and I don't hate you.

    Even if I had all the power in the world and you kept insulting me I wouldn't even think of harming you or causing you pain in any form ...... this is what it means.

  • I am not misleading any one. I am preventing an innocent person to follow a wrong path. I never said any bad word to you personaly. Buy the way I have a small question your so called Mehdi is died now and acc to you no Jesus is coming so who is gonna come and straighten up the things? Or Mirza planning to come back

  • Yes you are misleading, Hazrat Essa (as) is dead according to the Holy Qur'an ...... Hazrat Muhammad (saw) told his ummah to crawl over moutains of snow to bai'at on the hands of the Promised Messiah (as) when he arrives ..... here is someone trying to obey the commandment of the Holy prophet (saw) and you are telling him not to --- if this is not misleading then what is/

  • You didn't reply . Let me repeat your Massiha is dead now, Muslims are still suffering so who is gonna come and save us. 1 more thing you call western world as Dajjal so who is gonna come and provide relief to muslims from So called "Dajjal" (I saw your kalifah calling western world Dajjal in a video with full explaination) and buy the way your head quater is in a so called Dajjal country.

  • " You didn't reply ... Muslims are still suffering so who ... "

    No offence but until you accept the Masih-e-maud (as) you can't call yourself a muslim.

    As to Ahmadi Muslims, just google and read the news around the world regarding us, it would be clear to you that we've broken through the chains of ignorance --- great nations listen to what we ahve to say and this is in just a 100 years! Look at the Jam'aats prosperity and what it does not only for its members but for every human.

  • Great! Now you are calling us Non Muslims. Why don't you reply my simple question or just say I don't have answer.

    let me summerize again in point.

    1. Your so called prophet/massiah/mehdi is died who will come to help the suffering Muslim world.

    2. You guys call/refer western world and their system Dajjal but you are a part of it as your main Hubs are in western world

    To the point answers will be appreciated

  • [ I have made 2 comments, read the other too ]

    " 1. Your so called ... suffering Muslim world. "

    He has! Look at the lifes of those who accepted the Imam Mahdi (as) - are they not in a better state than the rest?

    " 2. You guys call/refer western...Hubs are in western.. "

    1- we don't call them dajjal.

    2- Lie! there are more Ahmadis in Pakistan and India that there are in any western nation.

  • So pple of US and rest of developed are in better state too this mean that they are at the right side?

    So guys are being fully supported by them thats why you are in peace.

    and finally let me show the proof that your kalifah's several times called western "christian world ' Dajjal

    just search "The Concept of Dajjal - Part 1" a video by your khalifah or do you want me to post as a video response after downloading. Shame on you guys

  • If you don't have answers go and ask your Kalifah who rides on Mercedes S class most of the time.

  • I have answers my friend and I have given them.

    It is very humble of the Khalifa that he uses a normal car and lives in a normal house - had the Khalifas (all of them) been men who desire wealth and pleasure then they would have built themselves villas instead of building magnificent mosques.

    Ask your leaders what they've done for Islam other than incite hatred against others and destroy the little that exists.

  • should I send you the video link or key search words in which you can see him in Mercedes S class. They are parasites living on your money

  • I never said you were lying, did I?

    What I said was that these are very modest vehicles. Have you seen the Khalifa's house? Compare it with the mansions in which your mullahs live AND then compare the mosques built by each.

    Had the Khalifa wished he could buy a private jet but rather he prefers to spend the tens of millions of pounds in building mosques, your mullahs spnd almost nothing on building mosques - the saudis do that for you - instead they prefer personal luxury.

  • 2. You guys call/refer western...Hubs are in western.. "

    1- we don't call them dajjal

    This is a part of a comment you posted.

  • "

    2. You guys call/refer western...Hubs are in western.. "

    1- we don't call them dajjal

    This is a part of a comment you posted.

    "

    Yes, we don't -- so? We don't call any nation or group of people dajjal.

    It is the crazy anti-ahmadiyyat mullahs that use the dajjal term so often, not us.

  • You are continuously denying what your khalifas said (on many occasion) and I showed it in the video he clearly said that (Christian world/western world) and if you continuously deny and you must be a mentally retarded person

  • " You are continuously denying what your ... "

    What? Please read what you just wrote and see if it makes any sense.

    " and I showed it in the video he clearly said that "

    Said what? Please construct complete and meaningful sentences - I am not a mind reader.

  • I hope you can understand some simple words. Your Khalifas call western chritstian world Dajjal then why they are living in those countries and why they get support from them ( You cant deny the fact becasue there are videos of your khalifas on youtube in which they are calling Modern western world Dajjal)

  • Now you are making sense, none of your previous comments made this clear unless I missed them.

    Now please in a clear post show me the video in which he referred to western nations as dajjal.

  • "The Concept of Dajjal - Part 1"

    just search this in youtube.

    I posted this earlier too. I think your IQ is boderline 70 or less

  • IQ means intelligence quotient and it has nothing to do with eye sight - I must have missed your comment.

    Talking of IQ I think yours is -30 because Khalifatul Masih IV clearly says in the video (you pointed out) that dajjal is the great *christian* powers and their beliefs such as trinity and their behaviours such as eating swine, now look at the top western powers USA, Germany, UK and France and tell me which of these nations calls itself a christian nation? You don't know anything.

  • -30 is not even in the scale of IQ you retard.

    If you think logically who is the christian power now. Is it China....LOLZ

    At the time 7:00-7:02 he used word Western nations. I hope this is enough for you.

    He was almost clear with that and in another video your other Khalifa said same thing

  • " -30 is not even in the scale of IQ you retard. "

    You seem to know a lot about IQ.

    " If you think logically "

    That's what I always do.

    " who is the christian power now. Is it China....LOLZ "

    Haha - that was so funny! There was a time when the Roman empire was a christian power, now all that's left is the catholic church which although weakened is still a power, a bunch of other churches, a few declared christian nations AND in the west their habits. Don't think you can mislead me.

  • It is just like that "Mai Na Manoo"

    I told you your khalifah said at 7:oo min in the video

    By the way is this the church who is conquering the countries. seems like you just don't want to accept and continue the stupid arguement.

  • what's main na manoo - is it a song?

    The church conquered a lot of nations, have you ever heard of crusaders? templars? They were soldiers of the church that went round conquering nations, they even managed to conquer jerusalem at one time.

  • This mean simply you are in state of denial. You are not ready to accept the fact. Crusaders were there in past. Are you in your senses or living in imaginary world.

    Buy the way if mirza was a real mehdi what is did rather than misguiding people.

    Your khalifah is clearly calling world "western"

    and it seems like you didn't even bother to watch his video keenly.

    Your another khalifah was saying the same thing in another youtube video.

  • f mirza was a real mehdi what is did he do rather than misguiding people.

  • " f mirza was a real mehdi what is did he do rather than misguiding people. "

    Let's put misguiding aside cos EVERY prophet has been accused of this.

    Taking of what he did - he did a LOT, I have repeated them again and again, I am putting up a site where I'll just point people hence forth.

    A sign of prophets is miracles, just like Hazrat Muhammad (saw), the Imam Mahdi (as) was taught arabic by Allah.

    alislam . org/library/links/00000005 .html

  • YOu guys decide who was Mirza you just called him prophet some time you call him Mehdi some times you call Massih.

    Just like what he did in his life what a transformer

  • What is it you want me to accept? That every westener is a dajjal? I would never accept that - are they not humans like all of us, there are non-muslims all over the world they should all be dajjals then.

    The Khalifa clearly referred to christian powers, these nations don't give a damn about christianity, so much so that talking of Jesus in UK politics could bring down your party -- how are they christian powers then?

  • I am not saying that. Your Khaliah said that. You are just trying to cover for him

  • I want you to accept that your khaliaf said that and not just only 1 khalifaf.

  • I won't accept that the Khalifa referred to westeners as dajjal, if you say he called individuals dajjal, or perhaps governments or their policies or christian powers dajjal then that I am ready to accept - infact I accept it :p

  • Ok. It took so long to make you accept that. Now can you please tell me that why your Khalifas always praise British Queen and they seem to support these western governments and you guys also do get support from western Governments

  • You wanted me to accept that the Khalifa said all westerners were dajjal which I will never accept.

    As to praising the queen, you should read what your mullahs said about the previous queen - this type of behaviour is called hypocricy.

    Also, respect should be given to whomever it is due, the sikhs ruled over muslims and slaughtered us like pigs but when the British came they gave all religions equal rights - should the queen not be praised for this?

    We are muslims and we act with justly

  • You accepted that Western Government and their policies are Dajjal as per your Khalifah.

    I am wondering what are "MY" Mullah's comments about Queen.

    Its a big joke "British came they gave all religions equal rights" Always HINDUS were prefered and they were given more opportunities" Siks ruled only punjab not whole india

  • If you are just going to be making baseless claims then I am not interested in discussing this with you any further.

    " Always HINDUS were prefered "

    Mention a few laws that gave hindus more preference.

    " Siks ruled only punjab not whole india " - And where were muslims more concentrated?

    Just out of curiosity, are you a Pakistani? cos if you are then your mullahs called you a pig, they called me a pig too but at least I don't follow them.

  • First of all I told you I am a common Muslim who follow just Islam.

    I am pakistan, didn't get assylem like you guys.

    If you read Qudrat Ullah Shahab's shahab nama you will find what was the exact ratio of Hindus to Muslim in government jobs. but you will not understand and continue to kiss British ass like Mirzs did.

  • 007yuni please think before you write ... in Hindustan the population of Hindus is far greater than that of Muslims -- wouldn't that reflect in the people employed in the government? No offence but this is common sense. Go to south africa and you'll find more blacks than whites in the goverment - is this because they are racists?

    "didn't get assylem like you guys"

    I hold a Pakistani passport too!! and FYI ther are over a MILLION Sunni Pakistanis who live in the UK with assylum.

  • Now again I have to spoon feed you or I think you didn't read this book. or I was too concise, I mean the ratio of Muslims as compard to Hindus in terms of their population. For eg. 10 muslims out of 10000 got jobs in comparison to 1000hindus out of 10000. you got it?

    "I hold Pakistan passport too" Wow that is very kind of you. Kindly return that passport to pakistan government and keep your US or UK nationality.

  • " Now again I have to spoon feed you or I think you didn't read this book. "

    Spoon feed me? No offence mate but I think I clearly know far more than you.

    The way you framed the sentence was wrong - and in regards to the book that is a clear lie -- during the British rule no census was ever carried out based on religious beliefs I wonder who had enough resources or authority to have carried out such a census - clear lies.

  • There was no consensus made at any time about job ratio .....so you really think that Muslims were on the top at every aspect, in all government and non government jobs before 1947,,,,you are in not living in real world.

  • " There was no consensus made at any time about job ratio "

    I think you meant census and if no census was carried out then where does the author of your book get his values from?

    " so you really think that Muslims were on the top at every aspect, "

    I never said that - I said it was fair, and I DONT support their rule either, the point I was trying to make is that the British rule was better for muslims than the Sikh rule.

  • *sighhh* Americans still seem to be largely ignorant of the Jama'at... At least in the UK media, they know who Ahmadis are from the non-Ahmadis.

  • Ted409: Its said you can define one's personality by the way he talks, We as Ahmadi-Muslims are not here to prove who's right who's wrong, we only tell our point of view by supporting it with proof We do not go around accusing other people's faith in fact we always claim "Love for all hatred for none"

    On other side read your posts all you are here 4 is to prove 1 point of yours by all means it takes and even if it means to get dirty Please don't debate if you can't answer n just swear & accuse

  • Also English is not our first language, although we try our best to make it clear. Just like you would start speaking urdu, hindi, arabic and when you make mistakes over n over does that means its ur fault ofcoz not you didn't grew up learning the language it takes time to understand and overcome the language so stop pretending you are something just because you can swear in english.

  • 4minus3: Sorry i don't know which prophet you believe in? if the only reason u posted this because u think that is what Holy Prophet PBUH "TOLD" then bro ur wrong. Holy Prophet PBUH said at the time when the actions of muslim ulmaa will be like monkey's that is the time of The The Promised one for which people around the world are waiting for. Please go look at the Fitna video and you will see what Holy Prophet PBUH meant by "Monkeys". Islam means Peace. Love for all hatred for none

  • i have read your quDOUCH. how on earth can you say that people are equal but naturaly play different roles and abilities? that is actually the definition of NOT being equal. maybe you should read a dictionary before you look like an even bigger muskum retard alallllalllallalalala you fucking douch. "women are equal, theyre just not allowed to do the same things as men by our quran" that makes sence....... oopse,wait, no, it doesnt and youre a douch bag

  • A man should take care of a woman coz that's how the 2 have been built.

    When there is a break-in at night & u hear footsteps why the woman is kept hidden & the man goes to fail the intruder. Coz thats manliness. Both men & women have great attributes. Women is best designed for Household maintenance whereas men for bread winning.

    To deviate would be to compromise with childrens upbringing.

  • i am very proud of our ameer saab god blass him.

  • Quran is proving the Mariyam mother of Jesus is supirrior from all woman in the world.

  • Dr. Hassan made a wonderful point; Since they have a fair in the town with a similar attendance and they have made provisions for that they can do the same with regard to the yearly gathering at the mosque.

  • Islam = Peace

    AND

    "The German nation wishes to live in peace with the rest of the world."

    A. Hitler: Speech of march 23, 1933:

  • actually..... Islam is intolerant and backwards. Islam is derived from the root "al-Slim" meaning "to submit or surrender". It does NOT mean peace. Muhammad hated Christians and Jews (5:51), allowed suicide attacks (61:10-12), killed apostates (9:11-12), told his followers to lie (16:106), and steal (33:37), did not treat women as equals (5:6), and forced conversions to Islam (9:12). He led organized 65 military campaigns and led 27 of them.

  • Q: are you trying to show you know more about Islam then Muslims them self?

    Q: Do you actually think by picking "WORDS" which u are interested in don't actually mean the whole sentence (Verse) means that?

    Q: Muhammad PBUH was the first person on earth to introduce women's rights in his time oh sorry I forgot ur not Muslim so you wont know that but infect prior to him PBUH there were not even 1 man in world who had guts to standup and say our women's are not our pet/slave I feel sorry for u ted

  • A:yes, half of you retards cant spell you're own names without wanting to blow yourself up, much less do any ACTUAL research

    A:YES that is exactly what RESEARCH is you tool... i believe i know what you're attempting to ask, however i suggest you repeat the fourth grade before you make another attempt in creating such long and complex sentences.

    A: its comeing im running out of space to own your sorry ass