The Supreme Court says corporations are people and money is speech. This has distorted our founders' intentions so perversely that we find ourselves in a situation where corporations can funnel millions into political messaging during campaigns with NO disclosure of who is providing the funds. Meanwhile voter repression via new voter ID laws (from corporate funded ALEC) puts burdens on the elderly and poor who may live in areas where they don't have the good records. Corporations rule us.
I saw the filibusterer and I swear to god I fell asleep within an hour in. I actually woke up when he yielded to the floor so I had a good day's sleep that day
Why should everyone pay the same tax when the wealthy try to get out of paying their workers a living wage? Most of the super rich are thieves in a very real sense. I don't consider it their money. Much of it they didn't earn, they stole!
@notyouraveragejuan That's not how it works kiddo. Employers have to compete for labor just like everything else. An employer wants to pay as little as possible and an employee wants to get paid as much as possible. They have to strike a balance. Opportunity cost (go look it up). Actually try reading something on economics instead of spewing liberal idiocy. Also tell me who did Bill Gates rob? Last I checked consumers willingly gave him their money.
@notyouraveragejuan So what the rich are supposed to take care of the poor? This Government is for the people by the people if someone pays more then another then they own us right? Who is the government here for? YOu or Me? Rich or poor? If everyone paid the same and our government didn't take from so many to give to so many other people. Why should i have to pay for someone else to get medicaid but i can't get any help for me? You want them to take more from some people and less from others?
@kydenj28 You can't get blood from a stone. Taxing everyone a flat 10% wouldn't even come close to generating enough revenue to sustain the society as it exists now. That's where the US is now. Not enough revenue. So, the options are to either tax the middle class until they're poor, cut services like education, police/fire services, etc, or you tax the top earners and deny them another new yacht or summer home that year.
Those are the options. Destroy mid-class, destroy society, or anger Repubs
@BigMikeMcBastard NOPE. Higher taxes mean the govt and politicians have more money, doesn't necessarily mean it will trickle down to the poor. Let's look at the alternative. Who do you think builds the summer homes and yachts? Tooth fairy? They did tax yachts extra once. Guess who lost their jobs? The middle class workers who build yachts.
@H1TMANactual More money means that social programs don't have to be cut. The government getting more money isn't a bad thing.
The people who build their summer homes and yachts don't live in America. Corporations are investing their extra income overseas, where they can exploit workers more easily than in the US where people still (barely) have unions and labor laws to protect them. The jobs they've created have not been American jobs, nor will they ever be.
@BigMikeMcBastard And that's called capital flight. Usually the result of higher taxes at home. You want the capital back and invested at home then you will have to lower the taxes. And cheaper labor overseas is fine. That means we pay lower for products. And I explained to you about higher taxes. Govt programs tend to be very inefficient.
@H1TMANactual Government vs. privatized is best summed up with Medicare vs. private insurance. In short, government programs can work fine but private programs invariably throw people under the bus whenever possible to maximize profit.
Corporate taxes are the lowest they've ever been and the situation is not improving. Many corporations pay no or minimal taxes due to loopholes. Capital flight is a hollow talking point. There's no truth to it. Lower taxes for corporations won't help
@BigMikeMcBastard If you don't know what you're talking about, then there is no shame in admitting it. Capital flight isn't a "talking point", it's an economic fact supported by empirical evidence. Low taxes have been proven to work in countries like Hong Kong, Estonia and Bahamas (look it up).
No what can be demonstrated is inefficiency and waste prevalent in govt programs. $120 billion is lost in fraud ALONE in medicare. Ya think people could have been helped with that money?
@H1TMANactual Once again, taxes are the lowest they've ever been and many corporations avoid them entirely via loopholes and zero benefit has been reaped.
Comparing it to other countries is fairly silly as the issue is far more complex than "well look at Estonia, that country is clearly comparable to America!"
You want to talk about inefficiency? Americans spend vastly more than anyone else in the world on their medical coverage, and they have terrible infant mortality and lifespan
@BigMikeMcBastard 1. No one is advocating loop holes. And there is no such thing as corporate taxes, cost is either paid by owners, share holders or consumers.
2. Fairly silly? I think I am wasting my time here. You don't know much about these topics.
3. Half of healthcare is govt run actually. Private covers 3 times the people at the same cost.
@H1TMANactual All hail the corporate overlords, I will advocate for the interests of people who give a shit about neither myself nor my country as long as it's in lockstep with the whims of my affluent political party leaders.
@H1TMANactual Capital flight won't happen to the U.S. because we are one of the lowest taxed countries in the world. Where is the human capital gonna flee to? Europe? They have a much higher effective tax rate.
@kydenj28 Be more specific. A flat % tax would be more equal and it should be done on all purchases so even illegals would have to pay on the system they are taking advantage of.
@knightnoctum well i kind of agree except if you check out the Fair tax. They want like 22% sales tax, and i'm talking like 10% flat tax (God only wants 10% so why not the US Gov.) Then Company's would push the tax on us by having higher prices. But I agree everyone who benifits from the US tax system should put in. But then there would be a "loophole" so that people would not have to pay taxes. I think if we stop the welfare state and the big Gov. spending it would solve our problems.
Discourage spending by putting all taxation on spending during an economic crisis?
Could the Republicans be proposing more to harm the country? Why don't they just propose a formal declaration of the US's death as a world power and ask China to sign it?
@kydenj28 this country is a welfare state because almost 100% of the income created in the last 10 years went to the top 1%. so poor getting poorer because prices go up, middle class disappearing because education is getting expensive and Repubs are preventing federal grants for college education and the rich keep getting richer. HOW IS THIS FAIR? God would want everyone to have a good life yet most people don't, and plus that's not a rule of God, that's a position of your church.
IM For The Board of Enfranchisement of The U.S.A. which will have a program
that will enfranchise more people U.S wide state to state ,with a 1.5 Trillion Dollar Federal funding being that we have Gold reserves. The Stock of Gold will be up and Gold will be $2500 a Troy ounce, This program will create 2 Million Jobs supporters are welcome together we stand
The rich also take more than their fair share. They don't pay people decently and rip off customers. They hide their money overseas. They hire foreign workers to get out of paying people anything they can actually live on. They're a bunch of greedy robbers. Tax them.
Freddie and Fannie were CASUALTIES, not the culprits of the subprime crisis. That's a different subject. I was talking about how the rich should pay more taxes because they steal from the middle class, don't pay workers what they should, etc.
@Salvysahagun 40%? That is 40% of income. You think all the money the top 2% makes falls under income? Hedge fund and dividends and taxed only 15%. Wall street is in control of the oligarchy that is the U.S.
Are you in the top 2%? If not, well, congrats on blindly following an agenda that has nothing to do with one's right to earn, morals or God. It's to let the super rich amass more. They are moving on to China, Brazil, etc to earn more. The death of the middle class in the U.S.
@Salvysahagun: Still taxes. What is your definition of taxes? The deficit was created by Bush: 2 wars, prescription drug plan, tax cuts for the wealthy. Why should the public even be responsible to pay for this? Raise taxes on the weatlhy.
@Salvysahagun The stimulus prevented a much more economic hit from happening by all accounts. Maybe it would have been better to go through a depression so that a broken financial system could have been allowed to collapse, though. Either way he didn't cause the problem but he averted a much bigger disaster by passing the ARRA.
As for taxing the rich, it's not about eliminating the deficit overnight, it's about getting out of the red and reducing it over time. Zero tax hikes will not do that.
@Salvysahagun Where does the amount of 700 billion over ten years come from? If corporations actually had to pay their taxes and the wealthy were taxed appropriately, how do you know that that would amount to 70 billion in revenue per year? A quick glance at the 2010 Tax Foundation report says that corporate tax loopholes cost the government $628.6 billion over a five year period.
In effect, many corporations pay less than 5% tax rates due to all of this according to Capital IQ. Is that fair?
700 billion in 10 years is a quote I heard from Sanders a few weeks ago.
I don't think you realize how income tax works.
According to the constitution it has to be apportionated.
The supreme court later ruled that the only thing that can be taxed as "income" is profit. If a corperation decides to invest ALL of its profit back into the company than it is not subject to an income tax.
@Salvysahagun None of that has anything to do with anything. And was Sanders referring to takes hikes, closing corporate loopholes, and/or corporate tax increases in general? Whatever the case, saying "well it doesn't instantly solve the debt problem" as a reason not to do any of those things at all is obviously quite foolish. It would make a significant difference and generate much needed revenue from people who are not contributing appropriately.
@Salvysahagun And quite frankly there are two futile wars and a grossly overfunded military which any reasonable government would take the axe to if making cuts were really so important. The idea of cutting medicare, social security, raising the retirement age, cutting education, etc, and not even touching the military budget is ludicrous.
The military budget should always be 60% of the federal budget. and as Jefferson stated the Navy is the most important function of military and the Army should only exist during a time of War.
The Federal Government should not be involved in legislating education. An average state gets 20% of its Revenue from the Feds. We have spent billions on education and the price per student has skyrocketed. yet no changes in test scores. Money is not educations problem.
@Salvysahagun What the budget "should" be depends on the needs of the day. When the country is facing major economic issues, the budget should be malleable such that it can have the fat trimmed to avoid making grievous social spending cuts.
Although Jefferson was a pretty great guy, what he said during his day is not necessarily applicable to the country today.
Cutting money from education will not help the situation. Education is one of the most important things a country can invest in.
@Salvysahagun The first year of the worst part of the great depression was 1929, try googling the great depression and the roaring twenties, feel free. Not a hard fact check here.
Harding did nothing to mitigate the great depression. He served for 1 term from 1921-1923 and was one of our worst presidents ever. I like the underdog too man. Maybe you are thinking of Calvin Coolidge, another fine Vermonter?
@Salvysahagun I guess the world just made up the Roaring Twenties huh? Big liberal lie? Look I am very happy you found someone with a PHD to latch onto with your magical theories. His book looks like "economic conspiracy theories for dummies", but its cool. I forgot I have a college education and don't get all my information from youtube videos and "that highschool class I took once".
When ever liberals see someone creditable with data they just call him a conspiracy theorist.
Mainstream History has been rebutted ALL the time.
What the discovery that Jefferson and Washington where slave owners was OK, but Warren Harding recovering America through Government Downsizing is lie.
Just rember that History is always told from the Winners pov.
@Salvysahagun I am not a liberal, but ok. I am not even bothering to dispute your ludicrous claim that a 1 term lame duck president was an American hero (who btw was one of the first people to suggest farm subsidies, small government my...). What I am disputing is one of the most retarded stances I have ever seen, that the depression started in 1920. I don't care if Jefferson or Washington were slave owners. All I care about is if you are going to make fantastic claims, do some homework.
"Government policy to moderate the depression and speed recovery was minimal. The Federal Reserve authorities were largely passive. … Despite the absence of a stimulative government policy, however, recovery was not long delayed."
@Salvysahagun Good talk. Your an idiot, move along troll. Your not even on topic anymore, now your just saying the New Deal (1933-1936, 13 years after your imaginary great depresion) wasn't a large enough stimulative program and that the Fed prior to the Glass-Steagall didn't do anything (probably because they couldn't because they had none of today's powers until after the depression. Its clear your under educated and over opinionated.
@Salvysahagun Oh I am sorry, I assumed you were a humongous moron when in fact your just an idiot. Yup Harding fixed the recession of 1920 by doing nothing. A one year recession, "fixed". Keep on it man some day you'll make it. Let me know when you get the economic degree. You'll notice every single recession post the great depression was much better managed in terms of GDP downturn. Actually you probably won't notice that because of the blinders your wearing.
@Salvysahagun And here I was thinking my 13 examples trumped your one. Life's full of surprises huh?
I also really appreciate the strong math skills at work from an individual comparing volatility of an event to the magnitude. I too get overly excited by large numbers.
Then again your fresh out of highschool, it takes a bit to switch over to the frontal cortex.
BTW I think there were 3 other arguments you gave up on. Feel free to blather on about that too.
@Salvysahagun The 13 or so recessions post-Great Depression with far lower -GDP growth than the the recession of 1920 referring to when I said "every single recession post the great depression was much better managed in terms of GDP downturn." Recessions have gotten better with a more powerful Fed. Harding cut some spending (not much), threw down a tariff to appease the legislatures and generally did nothing. Hoover was his commerce sec. at the time btw. Both were useless, Hoover less so.
The Great Depression was caused by the Feds monetary policy. Up until 1913 America did fine with out central bank. The Federal Reserves practices where the trigger of the crash while Hoovers interventions prolonged it.
FDR actually ran on Platform attacking Hoovers spending and growth of the Federal Government as FDR's running mate put it Hoover was "Leading the country down the path of socialism".
If it only took two years for a much bigger crash to recoop why so long GD?
3.) This recession was caused by Government housing subsidies. Wall Street only accounts for 30% of the Subprime market.
4.) The Stimulus is hurting Economy because many City's are using that money to remodel their retail centers when 70% of GDP is already Consumption. Do you not see the next bubble?
5.) Healthcare in America was affordable by everyone before medicare and Medicaid, Medicare and the Surge of Healthcare Regulations.
@Salvysahagun I don't think you know what inflation is. Inflation never was higher than college tuition inflation. If you are comparing the consumer price index with the cost of college tuition, which I highly doubt you are, the growth of the prior was never higher than the later.
Lots of things caused the housing bubble to pop. If oversimplification were a limp wristed softball team, you'd be its captain
@Salvysahagun I do enjoy facts, government subsidies absolutely drive up prices. Just what you originally stated was garbage and I pointed it out. CPI inflation was never higher than college tuition "inflation", so they didn't "flip flop", nor would normal people label that inflation. Inflation is "a rise in the general level of prices of goods and services in an economy over a period of time."
@Salvysahagun BTW the information if from Inflation Data dot com.
Have you ever thought the cost of higher education had anything to do with supply and demand? 1992 was the first year of heavy subsidized student loans (per the inflation data article). The trend was already occurring well before that period, if I open my eyes and look at the graph...
According to recent data from college board 60% of undergrads are on Federally backed student loans and grants . Cut those grants and cut back on student visas. After the Universities loose 60% of their clients they'll have to make HUGE cuts that will eventually lead to lower prices.
A collapse of the Corrupt university system would be perfect.
After they all collapse we set up Public universities the way they where meant to be.
@Salvysahagun Undergraduates are the new High School, get with the present. Jobs in America require more education than jobs 40 years ago. Grants for Masters and PhDs are far lower and are still free for the VERY intelligent, because they are allowed to teach and make money to pay for their education (called a Student Aid, but I am pretty sure if you have no familiarity with the Masters and PhD programs if you are harping on FAFSA/Pell Grants). Any more amateur hour left?
@Salvysahagun Stuff was cheaper in 1960? No way! Are you comparing this to an index or just making bold unfounded statements like the rest of your examples "with references"?
@deeppurple28 You have a choice. I took a black, ball-point pen into the booth with me, in 2008, and wrote Mr. Kucinich in for POTUS. It is YOUR vote, give it to the individual YOU feel deserves it and/or has earned it. I like President Obama and yes, of course, he's infinitely better than any of the corporate whores, in the GOP, but he's not different enough, from them, to get MY vote.
He will teach Obama integrity, how to grow a spine, and how to be a real representative of the people. We already have the Republicans to represent the Corporations, we don't need another.
Thanks to liberal policies America can no longer afford to pay for medicare, social security, unemployment and many other services. We also need to lower the minimum wage to $2/hr in order to compete with China and bring jobs back home. Fiscally responsible conservatives like Paul Ryan and John Boehner know this and are currently
working to end these wasteful handout programs and bring the minimum wage down so that America can be great again. God bless the GOP!
Outlaw lobbyists. It used to be illegal what they are doing, bribing politicians. The American public needs to wake up and see what a precipice we are at. Thank you, Bernie Sanders!
i love Bernie Sanders. this man is amazing and he inspires me to stand up for what is right. one of the few people we have in government that actually cares about us and works day and night to do what is in the best interest of all of us. we would have one hell of a better country if there were a few more guys like him
@photolitherland I didn't ask you but anyway since you think you know, where did you get that statistic? What site did you click off of google? LOL at answering google
my man bernie, if i was a congressman, i would skank right next you and fight the facism that our country will soon face..... revolt and resist always :)
I thought that the country will revolt. We keep giving our rights away without a fight. We can not even fight to keep the right, how are going to fight to get the rights back. Our country is becoming facist country as we are attacking unions. Unions did not crash the economy. Communism and facism are afraid of unions not democracy.
@zaneybaney420 I agree with you and wonder what will it take for this country to rise. When will people take the streets and take charge of their country. Are we waiting for the time when none of us can feed our children to revolt against rich assh*les. When AIG CEO gave themselves bonuses, I thought that the country will revolt. We keep giving our rights away without a fight. We can not even fight to keep the right, how are going to fight to get the rights back.
@sabina2475 im waitin for a revolution, honestly if one were to happen i swear i will take a shit load of 2ce and just throw molotof cocktails..... but until then i stay positive and just blaze hard, listen to some ska and raggae to calm down from watchin the news lmao
@sabina2475 dont worry, punks, squattas, and crustachians have been planning a revolution forever...... we're just all to drunk to actually start throwing molotofs....... btw if your ever feeling down, listen to some johnny hobo, very intelligent homeless punker :)
Bernie Sanders is a truly American hero. I wish all politicians could have the same moral values as Mr. Sanders. But, this is far fetch.... US is another "Banana Republic"... pls read Mr. Sanders book "The Speech"
Taxes are what pays for thing that is federally funded. Why reduce the amount of revenue that you will take in, especially the revenue from those that have the money to actually pay, and then complain about loss of jobs and failing social programs. These laws and extensions are not what the 90% of the population of this country want. If I'm not mistaken, the people that are put into office are there to represent those very people that they are financially and ethically raping.
We are living in what I call a Ping-Pong Society. Simply having Dem on one side of the game and the Rep on the other side and we the people are the ball and those elites behind everything are playing the game. The president can't fix this issue, the senate can't do much unless it was one party. Senate has become a war zone in which the two parties fight each other, this is not what the founding founders wanted, instead they wanted both parties to work together. The only solution is to revolt
this is a great, great human being. the United States needs more of Bernie Sanders, and I'm not even American. As a Canadian I laud Bernie, and I hope the United States can get with the program.
How can his opposition defend themselves against his arguments?
tax cuts for the rich while cutting programs for poor people?
I don't undertand why Americans aren't more outraged and voting those lying clowns out of office. We need more level headed, logical thinkers like Senator Sanders fixing our problems.
@LisaSYRMarie: We argue on Youtube because the wealthy have a strangle hold on mainstream media. It is at best a watered down truth presented there. You won't find the truth anywhere except MSNBC and Bill Maher.
@Leatherbubba Man, what a surprise. I should've expected such eloquence from a "Leather Bubba". If I was in your presence things would be different. And you couldn't do anything to Bernie without serious consequences. You would be greatly hurt over something like that, cock smoke.
paying attention folks? this is what a motherfucking statesman looks like...the man has a one-ton jock. just imagine if half the congress gave a rip for the average man or woman a la Bernie. let's all think about what he has to say.
@ES7upyours - Your grammar is incorrect. You should have typed, "you're" or "you are". Better check your spelling before you start casting aspersions about someone else's intelligence.
Carmen there are corporate DEMS just like there are corporate REPUBs. They're just different sides of the same coin.The only difference is with Repulicans you know they despise anyone that doesnt have money!
SubcommandanteJev from Stuttgart, Germany ALMOST has it right...
it's NOT the "DEMS" fault people are voting against their own interests - STOP *LIKING* THAT STUPID COMMENT! it's the RepublICAN'T BAGGER GOP's fault because it's them who give fox (FAUX 'EWES" SHEEPLE) their falsified propaganda & ridiculous talking points.
The Dem party isn't "perfect" but it IS fighting for "we the people" -
NO REAL CHANGE is possible as long as the Fed, Fiat Debt-Curreny and Fractional Reserve Banking exists.
The Fed gives corrupt crony politicians the power to borrow, debase & spend to buy “support” from Special Interest Groups, Too Big to Fail corporations, the Military-Industrial Complex & Banking Cartel.
Central Banking = Political Bribery & Cronyism!
Watch: Money, Banking and the Federal Reserve" here on YouTube.
It is not punishing the rich to repeal their unfunded tax breaks. They were supposed to use them to create American jobs, and they didn't. All they did do was create a record budget deficit.
The American people need to stop drinking Rush Limbaugh's Kool-Aid and start realizing that Bernie Sanders is right. Too bad Obama can't provide this kind of guts and leadership...
@mrbwoab I second that: Bernie Sanders for president! Yes, they should stop drinking Rush Limbaugh's Kool-Aid, but they will never do so because someone said they should. They simply lack critical thinking skills--or are too lazy to use them. I say we start tying prudent carrots to sticks, start guiding them away from the Kool-Aid they've been drinking. Cattle prods maybe? A reality TV show which subtly teaches economics with innumerable kicks to the balls? Spend money on educatio--oh...damn.
In 2008, the average tax rate PAID by the top 1% of earners was 23.27%. The average tax rate paid by the bottom 50% of earners was 2.59% The top 25-50% paid 6.75% on average. In other words, the top 1% of earners paid almost 10 times the tax rate as did the lower 50% and almost 4 times the rate of folks who made $33K to $67K (top 25-50%). How much more would be their "fair share?"
RON PAUL 2012!!!
freakylocz14 1 month ago
If corporations are ppl, then just about all of them belong in jail.
Why havent more ppl signed his petition yet?... oh yeah, thats right, they are too busy living in la la land watching Lady Gaga music videos.
29zc 1 month ago
Who on earth would have the trust in his idea, the power needed to speak for 8 hour ?
MenwithHill 2 months ago
If corporations are people why don't dey pay no got damn taxes? Aint dat some booshit!
bigbnigga11 2 months ago
The Supreme Court says corporations are people and money is speech. This has distorted our founders' intentions so perversely that we find ourselves in a situation where corporations can funnel millions into political messaging during campaigns with NO disclosure of who is providing the funds. Meanwhile voter repression via new voter ID laws (from corporate funded ALEC) puts burdens on the elderly and poor who may live in areas where they don't have the good records. Corporations rule us.
johnnyna321 2 months ago
I saw the filibusterer and I swear to god I fell asleep within an hour in. I actually woke up when he yielded to the floor so I had a good day's sleep that day
tapests 2 months ago
Nobody gets between a man and his grandchildren.
wliiaIScool 3 months ago
@wliiaIScool West Wing reference?
gdsm93 1 month ago
@gdsm93 Yes sir! Nice catch
wliiaIScool 1 month ago
Why should everyone pay the same tax when the wealthy try to get out of paying their workers a living wage? Most of the super rich are thieves in a very real sense. I don't consider it their money. Much of it they didn't earn, they stole!
notyouraveragejuan 5 months ago
@notyouraveragejuan That's not how it works kiddo. Employers have to compete for labor just like everything else. An employer wants to pay as little as possible and an employee wants to get paid as much as possible. They have to strike a balance. Opportunity cost (go look it up). Actually try reading something on economics instead of spewing liberal idiocy. Also tell me who did Bill Gates rob? Last I checked consumers willingly gave him their money.
H1TMANactual 1 month ago
Illegals aren't even coming into this country right now because there are no jobs. Flat tax puts the tax burden on the middle class.
The Great Depression was caused by deregulation, just like the great Recession.
notyouraveragejuan 5 months ago
@notyouraveragejuan caused by the federal reserve and special deregulation for the banking sector.
jfn1103 4 months ago
Flat tax everyone pay the same>)
kydenj28 5 months ago
@kydenj28: Why should everyone pay the same when everyone does not make the same? Or more specifically, rip off their workers the same?
notyouraveragejuan 5 months ago
@notyouraveragejuan So what the rich are supposed to take care of the poor? This Government is for the people by the people if someone pays more then another then they own us right? Who is the government here for? YOu or Me? Rich or poor? If everyone paid the same and our government didn't take from so many to give to so many other people. Why should i have to pay for someone else to get medicaid but i can't get any help for me? You want them to take more from some people and less from others?
kydenj28 5 months ago
@kydenj28 You can't get blood from a stone. Taxing everyone a flat 10% wouldn't even come close to generating enough revenue to sustain the society as it exists now. That's where the US is now. Not enough revenue. So, the options are to either tax the middle class until they're poor, cut services like education, police/fire services, etc, or you tax the top earners and deny them another new yacht or summer home that year.
Those are the options. Destroy mid-class, destroy society, or anger Repubs
BigMikeMcBastard 4 months ago 10
@BigMikeMcBastard NOPE. Higher taxes mean the govt and politicians have more money, doesn't necessarily mean it will trickle down to the poor. Let's look at the alternative. Who do you think builds the summer homes and yachts? Tooth fairy? They did tax yachts extra once. Guess who lost their jobs? The middle class workers who build yachts.
H1TMANactual 1 month ago
@H1TMANactual More money means that social programs don't have to be cut. The government getting more money isn't a bad thing.
The people who build their summer homes and yachts don't live in America. Corporations are investing their extra income overseas, where they can exploit workers more easily than in the US where people still (barely) have unions and labor laws to protect them. The jobs they've created have not been American jobs, nor will they ever be.
BigMikeMcBastard 1 month ago
@BigMikeMcBastard And that's called capital flight. Usually the result of higher taxes at home. You want the capital back and invested at home then you will have to lower the taxes. And cheaper labor overseas is fine. That means we pay lower for products. And I explained to you about higher taxes. Govt programs tend to be very inefficient.
H1TMANactual 1 month ago
@H1TMANactual Government vs. privatized is best summed up with Medicare vs. private insurance. In short, government programs can work fine but private programs invariably throw people under the bus whenever possible to maximize profit.
Corporate taxes are the lowest they've ever been and the situation is not improving. Many corporations pay no or minimal taxes due to loopholes. Capital flight is a hollow talking point. There's no truth to it. Lower taxes for corporations won't help
BigMikeMcBastard 1 month ago
@BigMikeMcBastard If you don't know what you're talking about, then there is no shame in admitting it. Capital flight isn't a "talking point", it's an economic fact supported by empirical evidence. Low taxes have been proven to work in countries like Hong Kong, Estonia and Bahamas (look it up).
No what can be demonstrated is inefficiency and waste prevalent in govt programs. $120 billion is lost in fraud ALONE in medicare. Ya think people could have been helped with that money?
H1TMANactual 1 month ago 2
@H1TMANactual Once again, taxes are the lowest they've ever been and many corporations avoid them entirely via loopholes and zero benefit has been reaped.
Comparing it to other countries is fairly silly as the issue is far more complex than "well look at Estonia, that country is clearly comparable to America!"
You want to talk about inefficiency? Americans spend vastly more than anyone else in the world on their medical coverage, and they have terrible infant mortality and lifespan
BigMikeMcBastard 1 month ago
@BigMikeMcBastard 1. No one is advocating loop holes. And there is no such thing as corporate taxes, cost is either paid by owners, share holders or consumers.
2. Fairly silly? I think I am wasting my time here. You don't know much about these topics.
3. Half of healthcare is govt run actually. Private covers 3 times the people at the same cost.
H1TMANactual 1 month ago
@H1TMANactual All hail the corporate overlords, I will advocate for the interests of people who give a shit about neither myself nor my country as long as it's in lockstep with the whims of my affluent political party leaders.
BigMikeMcBastard 1 month ago
@BigMikeMcBastard Nope. I am advocating for the common man. Where do think jobs come from? If you knew what I know.
H1TMANactual 1 month ago
@H1TMANactual Capital flight won't happen to the U.S. because we are one of the lowest taxed countries in the world. Where is the human capital gonna flee to? Europe? They have a much higher effective tax rate.
wangsta25 2 weeks ago
@wangsta25 There is already an estimated $10 trillion sitting outside US.
H1TMANactual 2 weeks ago
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╭∩╮（⃕__⃕）╭∩╮➔ CAPITALISM & COMMUNISM not EQUAL..!!!
DRUGLORDS+GOVERNMENT is COUNTERFEITING MONEY for SLAVERY..!!
BANKERS & DRUGLORDS screwed life & society in human history.
BURN DRUG LORDS ALIVE & OCCUPY THE WORLD..!!
CAPITALISM = NO REAL FREEDOM. WORLDS FAKE ECONOMY.
fight for LAST DROP BLOOD for MONEY & POWER = OPPORTUNIST MANIPULATIVE REALM LANDLORD GRABBER PIG ROYAL LAZY FAMILY.
HARD WORKING PEACE LOVING HAPPY HONEST SOCIETY were always the slave victim and poorly starve to death. :(
koppellhinex 1 month ago
@kydenj28 baaaad, bad bad bad bad.....
WoahSalmo 5 months ago
@kydenj28 Be more specific. A flat % tax would be more equal and it should be done on all purchases so even illegals would have to pay on the system they are taking advantage of.
knightnoctum 5 months ago
@knightnoctum well i kind of agree except if you check out the Fair tax. They want like 22% sales tax, and i'm talking like 10% flat tax (God only wants 10% so why not the US Gov.) Then Company's would push the tax on us by having higher prices. But I agree everyone who benifits from the US tax system should put in. But then there would be a "loophole" so that people would not have to pay taxes. I think if we stop the welfare state and the big Gov. spending it would solve our problems.
kydenj28 5 months ago
@kydenj28 I agree that they should get no more then 10%
knightnoctum 5 months ago
@kydenj28
Discourage spending by putting all taxation on spending during an economic crisis?
Could the Republicans be proposing more to harm the country? Why don't they just propose a formal declaration of the US's death as a world power and ask China to sign it?
nafaidni 3 months ago
@kydenj28 this country is a welfare state because almost 100% of the income created in the last 10 years went to the top 1%. so poor getting poorer because prices go up, middle class disappearing because education is getting expensive and Repubs are preventing federal grants for college education and the rich keep getting richer. HOW IS THIS FAIR? God would want everyone to have a good life yet most people don't, and plus that's not a rule of God, that's a position of your church.
coolragazzo94 3 months ago
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IM For The Board of Enfranchisement of The U.S.A. which will have a program
that will enfranchise more people U.S wide state to state ,with a 1.5 Trillion Dollar Federal funding being that we have Gold reserves. The Stock of Gold will be up and Gold will be $2500 a Troy ounce, This program will create 2 Million Jobs supporters are welcome together we stand
PattersonAndWhipson 6 months ago
The rich also take more than their fair share. They don't pay people decently and rip off customers. They hide their money overseas. They hire foreign workers to get out of paying people anything they can actually live on. They're a bunch of greedy robbers. Tax them.
notyouraveragejuan 6 months ago
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I think I'll buy a shirt that says "It rained today...I'm going to blame Obama"
Balian49 7 months ago
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Balian49 7 months ago
Freddie and Fannie were CASUALTIES, not the culprits of the subprime crisis. That's a different subject. I was talking about how the rich should pay more taxes because they steal from the middle class, don't pay workers what they should, etc.
notyouraveragejuan 7 months ago
@notyouraveragejuan
top 2% pay 40% of the income tax revenue
bottom 25% pay around 3% on average.
The rich pay enough
Salvysahagun 7 months ago
@Salvysahagun 40%? That is 40% of income. You think all the money the top 2% makes falls under income? Hedge fund and dividends and taxed only 15%. Wall street is in control of the oligarchy that is the U.S.
Are you in the top 2%? If not, well, congrats on blindly following an agenda that has nothing to do with one's right to earn, morals or God. It's to let the super rich amass more. They are moving on to China, Brazil, etc to earn more. The death of the middle class in the U.S.
hnassian 7 months ago
@hnassian
I don't think you get it.
of all the IRS tax revenue thats paid in the USA the top 2% account for 40% of it
the top 25% pay 80% of the IRS tax revenue.
oh and 45% of Americans all middle class and poor do not file an any IRS forms.
When are the poor and middle class going to pay thier fair share?
Salvysahagun 7 months ago
@Salvysahagun: Your numbers are scewered. Most people work. They pay FICA, sales tax, and more.
notyouraveragejuan 6 months ago
@notyouraveragejuan
FICA = Social Security and Medicare
Sales = State budget
This benefits the Federal defecit how?
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun: Still taxes. What is your definition of taxes? The deficit was created by Bush: 2 wars, prescription drug plan, tax cuts for the wealthy. Why should the public even be responsible to pay for this? Raise taxes on the weatlhy.
notyouraveragejuan 6 months ago
@notyouraveragejuan
funny,
Obama has spent more per year than the final years of Bush when his spending got out of control
If the government taxed the 400 richest americans 100% of their Net worths and liquidated all their assets. You would still have a 12 trillion to go.
Who voted a second Bail out? a useless Stimulus? and a Medical program that just make the problem worse?
enough said
The rich contribute more than anyone else to the national defecit
about
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun The stimulus prevented a much more economic hit from happening by all accounts. Maybe it would have been better to go through a depression so that a broken financial system could have been allowed to collapse, though. Either way he didn't cause the problem but he averted a much bigger disaster by passing the ARRA.
As for taxing the rich, it's not about eliminating the deficit overnight, it's about getting out of the red and reducing it over time. Zero tax hikes will not do that.
BigMikeMcBastard 6 months ago
@BigMikeMcBastard
The defecit is 12trillion
700billion in 10 years isn't enough. We have to stop spending its the only way.
ARRA is only saving the pain for another day. One top of that it is creating a commercial real estate bubble.
How does this counter my last post?
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun Where does the amount of 700 billion over ten years come from? If corporations actually had to pay their taxes and the wealthy were taxed appropriately, how do you know that that would amount to 70 billion in revenue per year? A quick glance at the 2010 Tax Foundation report says that corporate tax loopholes cost the government $628.6 billion over a five year period.
In effect, many corporations pay less than 5% tax rates due to all of this according to Capital IQ. Is that fair?
BigMikeMcBastard 6 months ago
@BigMikeMcBastard
700 billion in 10 years is a quote I heard from Sanders a few weeks ago.
I don't think you realize how income tax works.
According to the constitution it has to be apportionated.
The supreme court later ruled that the only thing that can be taxed as "income" is profit. If a corperation decides to invest ALL of its profit back into the company than it is not subject to an income tax.
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun None of that has anything to do with anything. And was Sanders referring to takes hikes, closing corporate loopholes, and/or corporate tax increases in general? Whatever the case, saying "well it doesn't instantly solve the debt problem" as a reason not to do any of those things at all is obviously quite foolish. It would make a significant difference and generate much needed revenue from people who are not contributing appropriately.
BigMikeMcBastard 6 months ago
@BigMikeMcBastard
Who doesn't contribute?
45% of Americans don't file their Federal income tax.
A majority of these incomes are middle class
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun And quite frankly there are two futile wars and a grossly overfunded military which any reasonable government would take the axe to if making cuts were really so important. The idea of cutting medicare, social security, raising the retirement age, cutting education, etc, and not even touching the military budget is ludicrous.
BigMikeMcBastard 6 months ago
@BigMikeMcBastard
The military budget should always be 60% of the federal budget. and as Jefferson stated the Navy is the most important function of military and the Army should only exist during a time of War.
The Federal Government should not be involved in legislating education. An average state gets 20% of its Revenue from the Feds. We have spent billions on education and the price per student has skyrocketed. yet no changes in test scores. Money is not educations problem.
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun What the budget "should" be depends on the needs of the day. When the country is facing major economic issues, the budget should be malleable such that it can have the fat trimmed to avoid making grievous social spending cuts.
Although Jefferson was a pretty great guy, what he said during his day is not necessarily applicable to the country today.
Cutting money from education will not help the situation. Education is one of the most important things a country can invest in.
BigMikeMcBastard 6 months ago
@BigMikeMcBastard
Education needs a restructure. It doesn't need more money.
If any thing it needs less. People can do more with less. It happens all the time.
Let the states and local counties or even cities handle their education with out federal intrusion.
College inflation was always lower than General inflation.
Can you explain to me how come the year the DOE was founded it flip flopped?
and today is 3 times general inflation??
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun It never ceases to amaze me how effective the media has been at getting people to actively fight against their own interests.
BigMikeMcBastard 6 months ago
@BigMikeMcBastard
It amazes me how Liberals hate historical examples.
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun It amazes me how assholes don't realize that partisan and party politics is what is destroying our country.
illusionistdave 6 months ago
@illusionistdave
Anyone who supports Bernie Sanders doesn't understand American Politics or the roles of Government in society.
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun how so? typical claim from a blowhard.
jagermaestro1 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun point them out sir, with references, go ahead, i think you will find you are the one that hates historical examples.
jagermaestro1 6 months ago
@jagermaestro1
1st year of the Depression of 1920 was worse than 1929.
Harding got out of it by downsizing government.
College inflation and general inflation flip flopped as soon as Carter made DOE and FAFSA
Government Subsidies created the housing bubble thus the Economic collapse of 2007.
Medical care was WAY more cheaper, affordable and abundant before Medicaid , Medicare, and the surge of Health care regulation in the 1960s
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun The first year of the worst part of the great depression was 1929, try googling the great depression and the roaring twenties, feel free. Not a hard fact check here.
Harding did nothing to mitigate the great depression. He served for 1 term from 1921-1923 and was one of our worst presidents ever. I like the underdog too man. Maybe you are thinking of Calvin Coolidge, another fine Vermonter?
jagermaestro1 6 months ago
@jagermaestro1
No.
If you where to leave out his scandal with out a doubt his government downsizing.
1st year of the Depression of 1920 was worse than 1929.
I forgot that school history teachers don't talk about the depression of 1920 because it would make Harding seem like a hero.
watch?v=czcUmnsprQI
This lecture by PHD Economist Thomas Woods explains Hardings excellence.
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun I guess the world just made up the Roaring Twenties huh? Big liberal lie? Look I am very happy you found someone with a PHD to latch onto with your magical theories. His book looks like "economic conspiracy theories for dummies", but its cool. I forgot I have a college education and don't get all my information from youtube videos and "that highschool class I took once".
jagermaestro1 6 months ago
@jagermaestro1
I LOVE IT.
When ever liberals see someone creditable with data they just call him a conspiracy theorist.
Mainstream History has been rebutted ALL the time.
What the discovery that Jefferson and Washington where slave owners was OK, but Warren Harding recovering America through Government Downsizing is lie.
Just rember that History is always told from the Winners pov.
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun I am not a liberal, but ok. I am not even bothering to dispute your ludicrous claim that a 1 term lame duck president was an American hero (who btw was one of the first people to suggest farm subsidies, small government my...). What I am disputing is one of the most retarded stances I have ever seen, that the depression started in 1920. I don't care if Jefferson or Washington were slave owners. All I care about is if you are going to make fantastic claims, do some homework.
jagermaestro1 6 months ago
@jagermaestro1
"Government policy to moderate the depression and speed recovery was minimal. The Federal Reserve authorities were largely passive. … Despite the absence of a stimulative government policy, however, recovery was not long delayed."
Robert Gordon Keynsian Economist
Irony...
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun Good talk. Your an idiot, move along troll. Your not even on topic anymore, now your just saying the New Deal (1933-1936, 13 years after your imaginary great depresion) wasn't a large enough stimulative program and that the Fed prior to the Glass-Steagall didn't do anything (probably because they couldn't because they had none of today's powers until after the depression. Its clear your under educated and over opinionated.
jagermaestro1 6 months ago
@jagermaestro1
Wait your denying that the Depression of 1920 never existed?
tinyurl(dot)com/data-1920
Even wikipedia has a page for it (LOL)
tinyurl(dot)com/Wiki1920
The Great Depression did not have to be a great depression.
Most of the projects where actually started by Hoover.
"hoover dam", Smoot Hawley, and the largest Peace time tax increase from 23% to 63%.
I'm sorry did Maddow and ever other Progressive say Hoover was a Free Marketer?
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun Oh I am sorry, I assumed you were a humongous moron when in fact your just an idiot. Yup Harding fixed the recession of 1920 by doing nothing. A one year recession, "fixed". Keep on it man some day you'll make it. Let me know when you get the economic degree. You'll notice every single recession post the great depression was much better managed in terms of GDP downturn. Actually you probably won't notice that because of the blinders your wearing.
jagermaestro1 6 months ago
@jagermaestro1
The 1st year of the 1920 depression was worse than than the first year of the great depression.
I think that kills your argument.
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun And here I was thinking my 13 examples trumped your one. Life's full of surprises huh?
I also really appreciate the strong math skills at work from an individual comparing volatility of an event to the magnitude. I too get overly excited by large numbers.
Then again your fresh out of highschool, it takes a bit to switch over to the frontal cortex.
BTW I think there were 3 other arguments you gave up on. Feel free to blather on about that too.
jagermaestro1 6 months ago
@jagermaestro1
What 13 points.
I think you've lost all reason because a phd wouldn't be able to tell what your talking about.
1.) Harding took Auesterity and did better things than Hoover
2.) College would be much cheaper if we just let the entire system collapse by stop subsidizing student loans.
Every American does not need to go to college. It is a fallacy. You don't need a $200,000 degree to own a store or be a mechanic.
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun The 13 or so recessions post-Great Depression with far lower -GDP growth than the the recession of 1920 referring to when I said "every single recession post the great depression was much better managed in terms of GDP downturn." Recessions have gotten better with a more powerful Fed. Harding cut some spending (not much), threw down a tariff to appease the legislatures and generally did nothing. Hoover was his commerce sec. at the time btw. Both were useless, Hoover less so.
jagermaestro1 6 months ago
@jagermaestro1
The Great Depression was caused by the Feds monetary policy. Up until 1913 America did fine with out central bank. The Federal Reserves practices where the trigger of the crash while Hoovers interventions prolonged it.
FDR actually ran on Platform attacking Hoovers spending and growth of the Federal Government as FDR's running mate put it Hoover was "Leading the country down the path of socialism".
If it only took two years for a much bigger crash to recoop why so long GD?
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@jagermaestro1
3.) This recession was caused by Government housing subsidies. Wall Street only accounts for 30% of the Subprime market.
4.) The Stimulus is hurting Economy because many City's are using that money to remodel their retail centers when 70% of GDP is already Consumption. Do you not see the next bubble?
5.) Healthcare in America was affordable by everyone before medicare and Medicaid, Medicare and the Surge of Healthcare Regulations.
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@jagermaestro1
That Robert Gordon quote was concerning the depression of 1920.
Imaginary huh?
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun I don't think you know what inflation is. Inflation never was higher than college tuition inflation. If you are comparing the consumer price index with the cost of college tuition, which I highly doubt you are, the growth of the prior was never higher than the later.
Lots of things caused the housing bubble to pop. If oversimplification were a limp wristed softball team, you'd be its captain
jagermaestro1 6 months ago
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@jagermaestro1
tinyurl(dot)com/Collegeinflation
Notice how the two Heavily government subsidized industries (College and Healthcare) are skyrocketing in price.
is that an accident?
I hope you enjoy the facts.
75% of
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun I do enjoy facts, government subsidies absolutely drive up prices. Just what you originally stated was garbage and I pointed it out. CPI inflation was never higher than college tuition "inflation", so they didn't "flip flop", nor would normal people label that inflation. Inflation is "a rise in the general level of prices of goods and services in an economy over a period of time."
jagermaestro1 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun BTW the information if from Inflation Data dot com.
Have you ever thought the cost of higher education had anything to do with supply and demand? 1992 was the first year of heavy subsidized student loans (per the inflation data article). The trend was already occurring well before that period, if I open my eyes and look at the graph...
jagermaestro1 6 months ago
@jagermaestro1
According to recent data from college board 60% of undergrads are on Federally backed student loans and grants . Cut those grants and cut back on student visas. After the Universities loose 60% of their clients they'll have to make HUGE cuts that will eventually lead to lower prices.
A collapse of the Corrupt university system would be perfect.
After they all collapse we set up Public universities the way they where meant to be.
Free for the VERY intelligent.
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun Undergraduates are the new High School, get with the present. Jobs in America require more education than jobs 40 years ago. Grants for Masters and PhDs are far lower and are still free for the VERY intelligent, because they are allowed to teach and make money to pay for their education (called a Student Aid, but I am pretty sure if you have no familiarity with the Masters and PhD programs if you are harping on FAFSA/Pell Grants). Any more amateur hour left?
jagermaestro1 6 months ago
@jagermaestro1
I'm guessing you must be in the same group of people that thought owning a home was a necessity pre 2006.
Ya how did that work out for you.
Students are going to college and getting degrees then working jobs they could have worked with just a High School Degree.
Apprenticeships, Internships, and continuing education are a much better alternative than a 150,000 piece of paper that says you can Market.
College only makes since if it legally certifies you for a that career.
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
@Salvysahagun Stuff was cheaper in 1960? No way! Are you comparing this to an index or just making bold unfounded statements like the rest of your examples "with references"?
jagermaestro1 6 months ago
@mynameismeowth You can buy the 8-hour speech in a book form i believe.
Stinkywookiee 8 months ago
we need more like Bernie Sanders and less like Ben Nelson
BoxOfOranges84 8 months ago
politicians are experts of converse!
akmv3 8 months ago
Sorry Paulbots, But Bernie is THE MAN! SANDERS/KUCINICH 2012!
deeppurple28 8 months ago
@deeppurple28 You have a choice. I took a black, ball-point pen into the booth with me, in 2008, and wrote Mr. Kucinich in for POTUS. It is YOUR vote, give it to the individual YOU feel deserves it and/or has earned it. I like President Obama and yes, of course, he's infinitely better than any of the corporate whores, in the GOP, but he's not different enough, from them, to get MY vote.
Rennpanzer 8 months ago
One of the best speeches since fdr
djamorpheus 8 months ago
rich ppl get tax breaks -> they spend a lot -> jobs!!
cilvrado 8 months ago
@cilvrado
Rich people gets tax breaks -> They bank it offshore -> No job.
Rich people gets tax breaks -> Create jobs in China -> Jobs in China.
Rich people gets tax breaks -> Get some hair transplant -> No impact on economy.
Rich people gets tax breaks -> Buy a new boat and hold a party -> Creates 30 jobs for 1 night.
The problem is not the tax break it is that the tax break comes no string attached to the rich at all.
Neosaigo 8 months ago 7
@Neosaigo
Rich people invest in china.
as a result you paid much less for that computer your typing on. and Google paid less for the services its hosting youtube on.
Global Economics 101
Salvysahagun 6 months ago
Obama need to get Bernie Sanders as a mentor.
He will teach Obama integrity, how to grow a spine, and how to be a real representative of the people. We already have the Republicans to represent the Corporations, we don't need another.
Neosaigo 9 months ago
Bernie is the best. We need many more like him.
webgeek6 9 months ago 5
Wow what a fucked up ideology .... Fucking republicans
djamorpheus 9 months ago
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Thanks to liberal policies America can no longer afford to pay for medicare, social security, unemployment and many other services. We also need to lower the minimum wage to $2/hr in order to compete with China and bring jobs back home. Fiscally responsible conservatives like Paul Ryan and John Boehner know this and are currently
working to end these wasteful handout programs and bring the minimum wage down so that America can be great again. God bless the GOP!
GOPkicksbutt 9 months ago
Outlaw lobbyists. It used to be illegal what they are doing, bribing politicians. The American public needs to wake up and see what a precipice we are at. Thank you, Bernie Sanders!
dahdahdahdah85 9 months ago
Go Bernie! Go Bernie!
rstbe 9 months ago
Democratic Socialism is where it's at, y'all. For real.
Obama/Sanders 2012! :-)
baronmorris 9 months ago
@baronmorris Obama isn't a Socialist. He supports the corparations just like the GOP. The Democratic Party is a centrist party
rgreenberg35 8 months ago
I say we should pay all congressmen 50k a year, Then they will finally defend the middle class - because they will BE the middle class!
oliG0Poly 9 months ago
@oliG0Poly I agree why do they get a free lunch on the back of the taxpayers
myboymadx 8 months ago
The last real man of the people!
bd610j2 10 months ago
i love Bernie Sanders. this man is amazing and he inspires me to stand up for what is right. one of the few people we have in government that actually cares about us and works day and night to do what is in the best interest of all of us. we would have one hell of a better country if there were a few more guys like him
crayyawn 10 months ago
I wish Senator Bernie Sanders was President Bernie Sanders.
jagzfan33 10 months ago
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Bernie, don't you know I'll fucking rape you?
Leatherbubba 10 months ago
@photolitherland I didn't ask you but anyway since you think you know, where did you get that statistic? What site did you click off of google? LOL at answering google
ThePelicans44 10 months ago
The Bernie Buster!!
Brilliant!!
juntadeluxe 10 months ago
He stood for 8 hours talking non-stop?
LightBrand 10 months ago
my man bernie, if i was a congressman, i would skank right next you and fight the facism that our country will soon face..... revolt and resist always :)
zaneybaney420 10 months ago
I thought that the country will revolt. We keep giving our rights away without a fight. We can not even fight to keep the right, how are going to fight to get the rights back. Our country is becoming facist country as we are attacking unions. Unions did not crash the economy. Communism and facism are afraid of unions not democracy.
sabina2475 10 months ago
@zaneybaney420 I agree with you and wonder what will it take for this country to rise. When will people take the streets and take charge of their country. Are we waiting for the time when none of us can feed our children to revolt against rich assh*les. When AIG CEO gave themselves bonuses, I thought that the country will revolt. We keep giving our rights away without a fight. We can not even fight to keep the right, how are going to fight to get the rights back.
sabina2475 10 months ago
@sabina2475 im waitin for a revolution, honestly if one were to happen i swear i will take a shit load of 2ce and just throw molotof cocktails..... but until then i stay positive and just blaze hard, listen to some ska and raggae to calm down from watchin the news lmao
zaneybaney420 10 months ago
@sabina2475 dont worry, punks, squattas, and crustachians have been planning a revolution forever...... we're just all to drunk to actually start throwing molotofs....... btw if your ever feeling down, listen to some johnny hobo, very intelligent homeless punker :)
zaneybaney420 10 months ago
Thank you for being on the front lines, Bernie.
judyleasugar97 10 months ago
Bernie Sanders is a truly American hero. I wish all politicians could have the same moral values as Mr. Sanders. But, this is far fetch.... US is another "Banana Republic"... pls read Mr. Sanders book "The Speech"
jwceballos 10 months ago
Taxes are what pays for thing that is federally funded. Why reduce the amount of revenue that you will take in, especially the revenue from those that have the money to actually pay, and then complain about loss of jobs and failing social programs. These laws and extensions are not what the 90% of the population of this country want. If I'm not mistaken, the people that are put into office are there to represent those very people that they are financially and ethically raping.
getgodapepsi 10 months ago
We are living in what I call a Ping-Pong Society. Simply having Dem on one side of the game and the Rep on the other side and we the people are the ball and those elites behind everything are playing the game. The president can't fix this issue, the senate can't do much unless it was one party. Senate has become a war zone in which the two parties fight each other, this is not what the founding founders wanted, instead they wanted both parties to work together. The only solution is to revolt
cvunit 10 months ago
this is a great, great human being. the United States needs more of Bernie Sanders, and I'm not even American. As a Canadian I laud Bernie, and I hope the United States can get with the program.
gmpm 11 months ago
Bernie Sanders, American hero.
gildaisawesome 11 months ago
SERIOUSLY...
Bernie Sanders has MY Vote for President.
treid100182 11 months ago
You are Awesome !!!
CarlaMills 11 months ago
I could listen to this guy read a shampoo bottle.
SmogHouseTradingCo 11 months ago 2
you know what i don't understand?
How can his opposition defend themselves against his arguments?
tax cuts for the rich while cutting programs for poor people?
I don't undertand why Americans aren't more outraged and voting those lying clowns out of office. We need more level headed, logical thinkers like Senator Sanders fixing our problems.
zzsql 11 months ago
This man is great, I love it!
longplainfirstnation 11 months ago
People, April 4th is Day of Action, protests to support the middle class. You can log on to their site to find a local protest.
judyleasugar97 11 months ago
GOP MOTTO ; PUNISH THE POOR ! REWARD THE RICH !
kn9ioutom 11 months ago
WHERE IS THE REST OF THE SPEECH
jarjarjenks 11 months ago
I love when ppl on youtube get in stupid arguments...look your all idiots for the simple reason that your ARGUING on youtube...get a life
LisaSYRMarie 11 months ago
@LisaSYRMarie: We argue on Youtube because the wealthy have a strangle hold on mainstream media. It is at best a watered down truth presented there. You won't find the truth anywhere except MSNBC and Bill Maher.
judyleasugar97 11 months ago
@LisaSYRMarie: By the way I am VERY VERY concerned about what is happening in this country. That's certainly worth commenting about!
judyleasugar97 11 months ago
HOORAY FOR WISCONSIN ! FIGHT GOP CORPORATE FASCISM
k9kmc 1 year ago 6
@Leatherbubba Man, what a surprise. I should've expected such eloquence from a "Leather Bubba". If I was in your presence things would be different. And you couldn't do anything to Bernie without serious consequences. You would be greatly hurt over something like that, cock smoke.
TheEquanimous1 1 year ago
@TheEquanimous1 Okay, thank you.
Leatherbubba 1 year ago
BERNIE IS A REAL AMEERICAN !
k9kmc 1 year ago 8
paying attention folks? this is what a motherfucking statesman looks like...the man has a one-ton jock. just imagine if half the congress gave a rip for the average man or woman a la Bernie. let's all think about what he has to say.
MrHippobippo 1 year ago
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A TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT !!!
k9kmc 1 year ago
Sanders is a socialist, and also a sound fiscal conservative.
hespelledyalewitha6 1 year ago 2
HUNT BROTHERS TRIED TO CORNER THE SILVER MARKET ! KOCH BROTHERS ARE TRYING TO CORNER AMERICA !
k9kmc 1 year ago
Bernie Sanders gets it. Why don't we?
Lightmane321 1 year ago
@Lightmane321 -- THOSE WHO ARE NOT COMMIE-WASHED AMERICANS ARE NOT SO GULLIBLE.
mn8aol 1 year ago
@mn8aol OKAY DUDE. THANKS FOR THAT. I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
Lightmane321 1 year ago
@mn8aol -- YOU ARE MOST WELCOME.
mn8aol 1 year ago
See this, kids? This is a Senator doing his job and doing it well. Few other politicians stick up for the little guy like Senator Bernie Sanders.
Snoopz0087 1 year ago 6
Politicians on youtube... expect a lot of rants.. but hey. It's freedom of speech after all in the first place. -.-
chaos190708 1 year ago
RONALD WILSON REAGAN ! COUNT THE LETTERS IN EACH WORD ! 666
k9kmc 1 year ago
@k9kmc your retarded
ES7upyours 1 year ago
@ES7upyours - Your grammar is incorrect. You should have typed, "you're" or "you are". Better check your spelling before you start casting aspersions about someone else's intelligence.
jsphar 8 months ago
@jsphar lol just because i didnt type the ' doesnt mean i didnt know that there should be one. just like im well aware of the ' in didn't
ES7upyours 7 months ago
the classic jew from Brooklyn...gotta love him...a man of the people...not like Glenn Beck
RockawayRiotSquad 1 year ago
i had sex in the elevator the other day... so fun!
SexyChck7821 1 year ago
Carmen there are corporate DEMS just like there are corporate REPUBs. They're just different sides of the same coin.The only difference is with Repulicans you know they despise anyone that doesnt have money!
coronaboy10 1 year ago
I wish Bernie was about 20 years younger though, we soo need more leaders that think the way he does....
coronaboy10 1 year ago 3
SAY WHAT?
SubcommandanteJev from Stuttgart, Germany ALMOST has it right...
it's NOT the "DEMS" fault people are voting against their own interests - STOP *LIKING* THAT STUPID COMMENT! it's the RepublICAN'T BAGGER GOP's fault because it's them who give fox (FAUX 'EWES" SHEEPLE) their falsified propaganda & ridiculous talking points.
The Dem party isn't "perfect" but it IS fighting for "we the people" -
NOT THE CORPS like the RepublICAN'T BAGGER GOP is
carmenelectra10 1 year ago
thank you mr robpeoples
montroclq 1 year ago
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yakyakyak69 1 year ago
It is not punishing the rich to repeal their unfunded tax breaks. They were supposed to use them to create American jobs, and they didn't. All they did do was create a record budget deficit.
The American people need to stop drinking Rush Limbaugh's Kool-Aid and start realizing that Bernie Sanders is right. Too bad Obama can't provide this kind of guts and leadership...
mrbwoab 1 year ago 62
@mrbwoab I second that: Bernie Sanders for president! Yes, they should stop drinking Rush Limbaugh's Kool-Aid, but they will never do so because someone said they should. They simply lack critical thinking skills--or are too lazy to use them. I say we start tying prudent carrots to sticks, start guiding them away from the Kool-Aid they've been drinking. Cattle prods maybe? A reality TV show which subtly teaches economics with innumerable kicks to the balls? Spend money on educatio--oh...damn.
EnigmaticNeurosis 1 year ago
@mrbwoab
In 2008, the average tax rate PAID by the top 1% of earners was 23.27%. The average tax rate paid by the bottom 50% of earners was 2.59% The top 25-50% paid 6.75% on average. In other words, the top 1% of earners paid almost 10 times the tax rate as did the lower 50% and almost 4 times the rate of folks who made $33K to $67K (top 25-50%). How much more would be their "fair share?"
Salvysahagun 7 months ago