dont waste your time on this one, historical angle is interesting but certainly dated and bound by fear and a strong christian bias (leaves behind even the other two monotheistic western traditions). and as far as authenticity...total rubbish. one sided view of yoga without any knowledge of the 6 classical schools of india that have transformed and grown side by side and debated tirelessly over the nature of reality. dualism has its proponents as do non-dualists, qualified dualists, etc
Even though,in the 21st century of great communication and knowledge materials available to everybody,brainwashed religious cunt are still available with bereft any basic knowledge or thinking!!
This people know little about what contained in other religions!
Tried yoga, TM, drugs, etc. Found what I was looking for in Jesus Christ. No exercises, medetations for years and years, just simple child like faith in Him.
"Be still and KNOW that I AM GOD" , this is in the Bible. This is the essence of Yoga. What I hear and see in these video clips is fear and insecurity. If you fear Yoga, you don't belong on that path. You may feel more comfortable with these people presenting these documentaries. If you want scary, read biographies of the Christian Saints, now there is the thread that connects Yoga and Christianity.
Neither yoga, meditation, belief in religion of any kind can ever supplant for common sense or a sound thinking mind or give someone a life. If someone finds themselves in India at the feet of a guru after practising meditation or yoga I wouldn't blame those things. I would just say that person is simply a bloody idiot.
What I don't understand is how people think they can separate yoga from its hindu origins. That's like celebrating Christmas and saying your doing it because it was Yeshua's (Jesus) birthday (Which wouldn't be in December, more like September) not because of the fact that its pagan. (EVERYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH CHRISTMAS IS PAGAN). You just can't separate it.
Gods of the New age is biased and spreads lies about other religions. It is good to alert people against brainwashing gurus, but the documentary turns to say everything not christian is Satanic, and that is not a serious researcher critic.
Well, the great , great lie that ANY thing out of the very small criteria of the maker is Satanic. And about everything having to be biased the answer is no, an ethical and well researched documentary must not be biased and should rely on serious scholars, not ex-hippie freaks.
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Hmmm I think your right in some of what yoour saying/writing, sometimes legalismn and black and white thinking is harmful. I think some of the testimonies of former gurus gives some legitimate credence to their point, I guess the opinion you derive, (concering yoga and other things) is going to be from where a persons belief sytems come form
You see Satan everywhere, my friend. Trust God . He is all powerfull and all pervading. Satan is your own fears. If you trust really God, your fears will go away :) And Yoga is good, only comes from a different world, that's all.
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i did yoga for about 20 years. It awakens the kundalini the fires of hell, that then burn you to death like a wick, up to the top of the head. You never see it coming how well you have been tricked, until its too late.
Maybe you made the meditation while being sick or using some drugs, and you had a very bad experience.Some breathing excersices may be dangerous if done without a guide. But many people I know have never complained of this. There are scientific researchers that have found that the yoga excersices improve health on very sick people.
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Actually when Westerners do yoga, after several years they start getting extreme anxiety and all kinds of disorders. All breathing exercises are dangerous and unnatural. There's some pleasure breathing into your abdomen and shooting it up the spine, but it will mess you up in the end worse than drugs ever would. UG Krishnamurti used to warn me that drugs were safer than yoga but i thought that a ridiculous statement at the time.
It could be that these breathing excersices can provoke hiperventilation. That could provoke the anxiety. Do Easterners suffer these disorders? Maybe the right techniques are not being applied here in the West. It is very interesting to hear bad effects from yoga, it is hard to believe.
No, all human beings are almost the same. Here must be a physiological phenomenon related to a bad practice. Why so many people are beneficied by yoga, and some few are reporting nocive side-effects? And there are many branches of yoga. The breathing branch must belong to a specific branch. If you have real scientific or medical information about bad side effects, please let me know.
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It might have been on this documentary, where a doctor is talking about all of these yoga students with nervous problems. "The Kundalini Serpent's Lie ~ 'Ye Shall Be As Gods'" ...
Human beings aren't all the same according to the Bible.
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
I am asking about true facts. Scientific. Human physiology studied by scientists, not religiously biased people. If there is truly a side effect from certain techniques of yoga, it is a serious matter. But to prove it, serious research has to be done.
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hmm thats weird. Poondi is a place, so i wonder if there a previous swami there. i have this recollection of UG Krishnamurti warning about this fearm and saying that even the Poondi swami suddenly became overcome with terror, and jumped in to a fire (or water, i forget) to kill himself, tbecause the fear was so bad. In any case i've messaged who put that video up, to see if he has heard of this. Maybe it was a disciple of Poondi swami, or maybe he tried to commit suicide but failed.
Well. I hope that the video poster aswers you. Anyway, a depression can occur to anybody, and bring that person to suicide. Many insights are not recommended to people that may have a mental illness, dealing with the impermanence of life can frighten a sick person!
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Do you have any sources for this swami that "suddenly became overcome with terror, and jumped into a fire to kill himself, because the fear was so bad" ?
It seems, there is lot that is left unsaid about yoga and its occult practice and origns.
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No i don't sorry, it was UG Krishamurti that told me. He also became totally overcome with terror at one point too, as did Ramana maharshi, as did adi da etc. UG said "you either flip or fly at that point". i hit UTTERLY INSANE TERRIFYING FEAR at the end of my yoga/meditation practice too. You literally could not even imagine or conceive of such terror, as losing your ability to comprehend yourself in time and space. Not knowing where space is, and not knowing when time is. You go insane.
Why would you have fear? I can't understand you, guys. Yoga is an exercise! Well, if you have SERIOUS and scientifical facts that it really attracts devils, make a good video, not the insane crap you are used to.
That is a lie. there is no scientific or serious proof that yoga is harmful. on the contrary, serious research shows that yoga helps people, such as people with cancer.
Oh no, we are not. We are creatures. And God created us for just one purpose only and that is to glorify Him, and to enjoy His Bliss in eternity. We receive Holy Ghost if we believe in Jesus and are baptised. In that way original sin is forgiven and we can call ourselves children of God. it is a wrong idea that we are born with the Holy Ghost. That idea is not just another approach to God, it is error. It has nothing to do with cultivation or meditation. We receive that Grace with baptism.
I guess u shud know history better when you said yoga is anti-christian inventions of demons. How can you limit god to him or his? This just shows how limited and tribal ur ideas abt god are..
Satan has control over nature to an extend that is beyond our comprehension, and yoga and hinduism are his work. Men are tempted with wealth,health,"support of nature",power and self realisation. tm is not science,it is occult yoga practice,it's mantra's are demon names. It's addictive and will destroy your family values,your christian faith, and finally your peace of soul. don't let the enemy of your soul in by opening your mind to him. yoga is an anti-christian invention of demons.
What has yoga to do with satan? It comes from a different background, and everbody does it. Hinduism is just another religion, with its own approach to god. Just live and let others live.
Supposing "Satan" exists, why would he use a meditation technique that is used for relaxing, and in a spiritual context, used to unite with God? Maybe if he is repented and want to return to Heaven :)
yoga was there before jesus came in to this world so are the great spiritual masters. What satans u r talking abt? You are reason for ppl becoming atheist or converting to others religions.
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The world is not that old as hinduism wrongly believes. It is just some 6 or 7000 years old. Evolution is the delusion, and millions years of history is. fossiles of sea animals are found everywhere because of the Great Flood which drowned the earth after Noah had built the Arc. Satan is a living spirit. it is not another word for Maya or delusion. Satan is an angel, whom has turned into devil.
Man!! This is complete foolishness. How can you believe that world is 6000 to 7000 years old? It is better to be satan than to believe such stupid and dump ideas. Anyways yoga is good based on how you use it. You guys are creating some imaginary stories and it is better for small kids to make them laugh. There is nothing like satan and hell. Don't divide yourself from your own nature.
My own nature is not divine as "sanathan dharma" wants to make me believe. On the contrary, my own nature is that of a creature of God's Hand. We as creatures can never stand up and rebel against our Creator, it is wrong to set ourselves up as Gods.
If Yoga was necessary for Salvation Jesus would have been the first to teach, because Jesus did everything for the salvation of men, up to death on the Cross and spilling His last drop of Blood. Christians should stay humble and obedient to God and never get themselves into these practises. hinduism is the religion of nature and of satan who controls nature to an extend that is beyond our comprehension.
"yoga is an anti-christian invention of demons." -- That looks like you are in delusional state and acting upon what was stuffed in ur brain from ur pastors just like islam putting jihadi in to their brains.
Not at all. In paradise satan came as a snake. He tempted Eve and Adam to sin against God's will. satan is an angel who has himself fallen into disobedience and therefore was damned. yoga is a science of nature, it has nothing to do with supernatural God. expanding consiousness is not without danger.
I'm not against your beliefs. Belief is a cover up for insecurities. I just wanted to say, u or Christians do not own the truth. If u r just humble n obedient, u can become a gud parent/child but not the seeker of truth. If u think u r right and rest of religions r bad, i would beg jesus to take u 2 heaven ASAP and leave others.
Why are you saying that i'm bothering others? you don't want to hear the truth, then just leave, and don't read my messages. It's simple. I respect everyone, yet i'm not going along with your ideas about God,freedom,equality,or enlightenment. Call me stupid if you want, i believe in Jesus Christ.
I did not say u r bothering others. Most of the conservative Christians wants others to convert to their religion. None is above god, we are children of god. It is repeatedly said in baghavad gita by krishna that god is supreme. Krishna suggested yoga as one of the four paths to reach him. But what in the west follow is absolutely demonic yoga, they hijacked it and used it for materialistic gains.
I did not say stupid because u believe in Jesus. I said stupid to ur ideas and theories about god, satan and world. The bible u r following is totally misinterpreted and hijacked by west and u guys have been doing for centuries. When u say u r following jesus, i do not think the west is doing so. It is totally fallen prey to wrong ideas abt satan, hell and god.
Yoga is self glorification, and the same trap which lucifer offered to Eve in the Garden of Eden,that she and Adam could be as God Himself, they could be God's equals if they ate from the fruits of the Tree of Knowledge.
Yoga = yoke to a demiGod
looneybineastman 4 months ago
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
LoveJoyPeaceComfort 10 months ago
dont waste your time on this one, historical angle is interesting but certainly dated and bound by fear and a strong christian bias (leaves behind even the other two monotheistic western traditions). and as far as authenticity...total rubbish. one sided view of yoga without any knowledge of the 6 classical schools of india that have transformed and grown side by side and debated tirelessly over the nature of reality. dualism has its proponents as do non-dualists, qualified dualists, etc
xthomfo1 11 months ago
Even though,in the 21st century of great communication and knowledge materials available to everybody,brainwashed religious cunt are still available with bereft any basic knowledge or thinking!!
This people know little about what contained in other religions!
Saraswathiputra 1 year ago 4
If you want to find God, then you must go through Jesus, He is the way, the truth and the life, and there is no other way.
The scripture "Be still and know that I am God" does not mean you empty your mind and open yourself up to "spirit guides"
we are to open our hearts and minds to Christ, renewing our minds by the reading of His word.
daveh291 1 year ago 5
Tried yoga, TM, drugs, etc. Found what I was looking for in Jesus Christ. No exercises, medetations for years and years, just simple child like faith in Him.
Rattmann1953 1 year ago 4
I guess Brahman is like the Zeus of India..Father of all gods..
candyuniverse3000 1 year ago
Brahma--the diety, Brahman--his radiance
xthomfo1 11 months ago
"Be still and KNOW that I AM GOD" , this is in the Bible. This is the essence of Yoga. What I hear and see in these video clips is fear and insecurity. If you fear Yoga, you don't belong on that path. You may feel more comfortable with these people presenting these documentaries. If you want scary, read biographies of the Christian Saints, now there is the thread that connects Yoga and Christianity.
nancysanks 1 year ago
Neither yoga, meditation, belief in religion of any kind can ever supplant for common sense or a sound thinking mind or give someone a life. If someone finds themselves in India at the feet of a guru after practising meditation or yoga I wouldn't blame those things. I would just say that person is simply a bloody idiot.
dharmashooter 1 year ago
I'm an Indian (call me pagan if you will) and have a question - will I not use light bulbs because it comes from the West?
krishnabhishek 1 year ago
What I don't understand is how people think they can separate yoga from its hindu origins. That's like celebrating Christmas and saying your doing it because it was Yeshua's (Jesus) birthday (Which wouldn't be in December, more like September) not because of the fact that its pagan. (EVERYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH CHRISTMAS IS PAGAN). You just can't separate it.
Thatgirlinshoes 1 year ago
watch gods of the new age
planes3333 2 years ago
Gods of the New age is biased and spreads lies about other religions. It is good to alert people against brainwashing gurus, but the documentary turns to say everything not christian is Satanic, and that is not a serious researcher critic.
superCatia 2 years ago
what lies does it spread, ?? everything is biased isnt it?
planes3333 2 years ago
Well, the great , great lie that ANY thing out of the very small criteria of the maker is Satanic. And about everything having to be biased the answer is no, an ethical and well researched documentary must not be biased and should rely on serious scholars, not ex-hippie freaks.
superCatia 2 years ago
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Hmmm I think your right in some of what yoour saying/writing, sometimes legalismn and black and white thinking is harmful. I think some of the testimonies of former gurus gives some legitimate credence to their point, I guess the opinion you derive, (concering yoga and other things) is going to be from where a persons belief sytems come form
peace out nice chatting
planes3333 2 years ago
Yoga is a good, healthy practice. The philosophy behind it is beautiful.
superCatia 2 years ago
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they have 330 million gods lol
EndTimeDelusion1 2 years ago
It is in essence ONE, friend.
superCatia 2 years ago
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the baphomet hand gesture at 4:24
EndTimeDelusion1 2 years ago
That is a mudra, friend.
superCatia 2 years ago
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Same mudra that baphomet makes.
EndTimeDelusion1 2 years ago
You see Satan everywhere, my friend. Trust God . He is all powerfull and all pervading. Satan is your own fears. If you trust really God, your fears will go away :) And Yoga is good, only comes from a different world, that's all.
superCatia 2 years ago
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i did yoga for about 20 years. It awakens the kundalini the fires of hell, that then burn you to death like a wick, up to the top of the head. You never see it coming how well you have been tricked, until its too late.
EndTimeDelusion1 2 years ago
Maybe you made the meditation while being sick or using some drugs, and you had a very bad experience.Some breathing excersices may be dangerous if done without a guide. But many people I know have never complained of this. There are scientific researchers that have found that the yoga excersices improve health on very sick people.
superCatia 2 years ago
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Actually when Westerners do yoga, after several years they start getting extreme anxiety and all kinds of disorders. All breathing exercises are dangerous and unnatural. There's some pleasure breathing into your abdomen and shooting it up the spine, but it will mess you up in the end worse than drugs ever would. UG Krishnamurti used to warn me that drugs were safer than yoga but i thought that a ridiculous statement at the time.
EndTimeDelusion1 2 years ago
It could be that these breathing excersices can provoke hiperventilation. That could provoke the anxiety. Do Easterners suffer these disorders? Maybe the right techniques are not being applied here in the West. It is very interesting to hear bad effects from yoga, it is hard to believe.
superCatia 2 years ago
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Those of the Serpent seed would be well suited to occult practices like kundalini yoga that result in oblivion and emptiness.
EndTimeDelusion1 2 years ago
No, all human beings are almost the same. Here must be a physiological phenomenon related to a bad practice. Why so many people are beneficied by yoga, and some few are reporting nocive side-effects? And there are many branches of yoga. The breathing branch must belong to a specific branch. If you have real scientific or medical information about bad side effects, please let me know.
superCatia 2 years ago
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It might have been on this documentary, where a doctor is talking about all of these yoga students with nervous problems. "The Kundalini Serpent's Lie ~ 'Ye Shall Be As Gods'" ...
Human beings aren't all the same according to the Bible.
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
EndTimeDelusion1 2 years ago
I am asking about true facts. Scientific. Human physiology studied by scientists, not religiously biased people. If there is truly a side effect from certain techniques of yoga, it is a serious matter. But to prove it, serious research has to be done.
superCatia 2 years ago
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Even people in the East go insane with fear and commit suicide after practicing too much yoga, like the poondi swami.
EndTimeDelusion1 2 years ago
Too much yoga... you are stating too much. everything in overquantity can harm. I searched for poondi swami and seems to be all right:
watch?v=2IkC5pTD9dc
superCatia 2 years ago
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hmm thats weird. Poondi is a place, so i wonder if there a previous swami there. i have this recollection of UG Krishnamurti warning about this fearm and saying that even the Poondi swami suddenly became overcome with terror, and jumped in to a fire (or water, i forget) to kill himself, tbecause the fear was so bad. In any case i've messaged who put that video up, to see if he has heard of this. Maybe it was a disciple of Poondi swami, or maybe he tried to commit suicide but failed.
EndTimeDelusion1 2 years ago
Well. I hope that the video poster aswers you. Anyway, a depression can occur to anybody, and bring that person to suicide. Many insights are not recommended to people that may have a mental illness, dealing with the impermanence of life can frighten a sick person!
superCatia 2 years ago
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Do you have any sources for this swami that "suddenly became overcome with terror, and jumped into a fire to kill himself, because the fear was so bad" ?
It seems, there is lot that is left unsaid about yoga and its occult practice and origns.
Thanks mate.
veeunbound 2 years ago
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No i don't sorry, it was UG Krishamurti that told me. He also became totally overcome with terror at one point too, as did Ramana maharshi, as did adi da etc. UG said "you either flip or fly at that point". i hit UTTERLY INSANE TERRIFYING FEAR at the end of my yoga/meditation practice too. You literally could not even imagine or conceive of such terror, as losing your ability to comprehend yourself in time and space. Not knowing where space is, and not knowing when time is. You go insane.
EndTimeDelusion1 2 years ago
Why would you have fear? I can't understand you, guys. Yoga is an exercise! Well, if you have SERIOUS and scientifical facts that it really attracts devils, make a good video, not the insane crap you are used to.
superCatia 2 years ago
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FEAR in Kali/Shiva
No fear in Jesus.
EndTimeDelusion1 2 years ago
Kali and Shiva are cool , dude. No fear.
superCatia 2 years ago
Do you really believe this crap? yoga is good. There is no serious record of an attack of anything!
superCatia 2 years ago
That is a lie. there is no scientific or serious proof that yoga is harmful. on the contrary, serious research shows that yoga helps people, such as people with cancer.
superCatia 2 years ago
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who is Krishnamurtu??
planes3333 2 years ago
Krishnamurti is a guru.
superCatia 2 years ago
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who cares who he is lol. Look at Jesus instead, the Only God who can save you.
EndTimeDelusion1 2 years ago
whats mudra?
planes3333 2 years ago
Mudra is a hand gesture . They have peaceful meaning, and it is supposed to help in relaxation. You can search the wikipedia for a deep explanation.
superCatia 2 years ago
cheers from canada
planes3333 2 years ago
We all ar but sparks of light from the holy Ghost.
superCatia 2 years ago
Oh no, we are not. We are creatures. And God created us for just one purpose only and that is to glorify Him, and to enjoy His Bliss in eternity. We receive Holy Ghost if we believe in Jesus and are baptised. In that way original sin is forgiven and we can call ourselves children of God. it is a wrong idea that we are born with the Holy Ghost. That idea is not just another approach to God, it is error. It has nothing to do with cultivation or meditation. We receive that Grace with baptism.
lithopoonwit 2 years ago
I guess u shud know history better when you said yoga is anti-christian inventions of demons. How can you limit god to him or his? This just shows how limited and tribal ur ideas abt god are..
sundg1984 2 years ago
Satan has control over nature to an extend that is beyond our comprehension, and yoga and hinduism are his work. Men are tempted with wealth,health,"support of nature",power and self realisation. tm is not science,it is occult yoga practice,it's mantra's are demon names. It's addictive and will destroy your family values,your christian faith, and finally your peace of soul. don't let the enemy of your soul in by opening your mind to him. yoga is an anti-christian invention of demons.
lithopoonwit 2 years ago
What has yoga to do with satan? It comes from a different background, and everbody does it. Hinduism is just another religion, with its own approach to god. Just live and let others live.
superCatia 2 years ago
Satan is the deciever and "disguises as an angel of light" though, perhaps he uses yoga?
planes3333 2 years ago
Supposing "Satan" exists, why would he use a meditation technique that is used for relaxing, and in a spiritual context, used to unite with God? Maybe if he is repented and want to return to Heaven :)
superCatia 2 years ago
@superCatia True enough. Bt then the question becomes, which god? They have 330 million and I only have one so how are we on the same page?
hon3yg1rl 1 year ago
yoga was there before jesus came in to this world so are the great spiritual masters. What satans u r talking abt? You are reason for ppl becoming atheist or converting to others religions.
sundg1984 2 years ago
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The world is not that old as hinduism wrongly believes. It is just some 6 or 7000 years old. Evolution is the delusion, and millions years of history is. fossiles of sea animals are found everywhere because of the Great Flood which drowned the earth after Noah had built the Arc. Satan is a living spirit. it is not another word for Maya or delusion. Satan is an angel, whom has turned into devil.
lithopoonwit 2 years ago
Man!! This is complete foolishness. How can you believe that world is 6000 to 7000 years old? It is better to be satan than to believe such stupid and dump ideas. Anyways yoga is good based on how you use it. You guys are creating some imaginary stories and it is better for small kids to make them laugh. There is nothing like satan and hell. Don't divide yourself from your own nature.
sundg1984 2 years ago
My own nature is not divine as "sanathan dharma" wants to make me believe. On the contrary, my own nature is that of a creature of God's Hand. We as creatures can never stand up and rebel against our Creator, it is wrong to set ourselves up as Gods.
lithopoonwit 2 years ago
If Yoga was necessary for Salvation Jesus would have been the first to teach, because Jesus did everything for the salvation of men, up to death on the Cross and spilling His last drop of Blood. Christians should stay humble and obedient to God and never get themselves into these practises. hinduism is the religion of nature and of satan who controls nature to an extend that is beyond our comprehension.
lithopoonwit 2 years ago
"yoga is an anti-christian invention of demons." -- That looks like you are in delusional state and acting upon what was stuffed in ur brain from ur pastors just like islam putting jihadi in to their brains.
sundg1984 2 years ago
Not at all. In paradise satan came as a snake. He tempted Eve and Adam to sin against God's will. satan is an angel who has himself fallen into disobedience and therefore was damned. yoga is a science of nature, it has nothing to do with supernatural God. expanding consiousness is not without danger.
lithopoonwit 2 years ago
I'm not against your beliefs. Belief is a cover up for insecurities. I just wanted to say, u or Christians do not own the truth. If u r just humble n obedient, u can become a gud parent/child but not the seeker of truth. If u think u r right and rest of religions r bad, i would beg jesus to take u 2 heaven ASAP and leave others.
sundg1984 2 years ago
Why are you saying that i'm bothering others? you don't want to hear the truth, then just leave, and don't read my messages. It's simple. I respect everyone, yet i'm not going along with your ideas about God,freedom,equality,or enlightenment. Call me stupid if you want, i believe in Jesus Christ.
lithopoonwit 2 years ago
I did not say u r bothering others. Most of the conservative Christians wants others to convert to their religion. None is above god, we are children of god. It is repeatedly said in baghavad gita by krishna that god is supreme. Krishna suggested yoga as one of the four paths to reach him. But what in the west follow is absolutely demonic yoga, they hijacked it and used it for materialistic gains.
sundg1984 2 years ago
I did not say stupid because u believe in Jesus. I said stupid to ur ideas and theories about god, satan and world. The bible u r following is totally misinterpreted and hijacked by west and u guys have been doing for centuries. When u say u r following jesus, i do not think the west is doing so. It is totally fallen prey to wrong ideas abt satan, hell and god.
sundg1984 2 years ago
Yoga is self glorification, and the same trap which lucifer offered to Eve in the Garden of Eden,that she and Adam could be as God Himself, they could be God's equals if they ate from the fruits of the Tree of Knowledge.
lithopoonwit 2 years ago
right, good point
planes3333 2 years ago