i was a shoulder dystocia baby even though i was premature. my Mom is on the smaller side at 5'3" but that's certainly usually big enough to deliver a baby, especially a premature one. i was born in 1986 and she said they used the mcroberts to get me out. no lasting harm to me, and my sister was born 2 years later at full term with no dystocia or any other problems.
@Sprakle347 not really docs are just impatient...it will come out on its own.Ive had 3 1 on the way.Midwives dont rush things docs do...they wanna get home and eat or move onto the next "patient"
Ok so I have to ask how many of these comments came from doulas, CBE's or other birth-workers? I think all our comments are too harmonious for a you tube video.:)
The Sad reality is that we teach OBYGNs more about litigation, insurance and leasing a Lexus than turning a baby...the old midwives have been kept out of the melee to the consternation of happy and harmonious outcomes that portend a life of health. The end result is 1 out of every 3 births in the USA end up with a c-section because of dystocia by default, design and dumbing down. This does create a healthier economy as we create clients and pension plans for medical professionals in the process.
This was a training video-fake vagina&baby. The real thing is a nightmare and
very serious form mom and baby. My son's face was beet red and swollen for days. My sacral-iliac joints were so jammed together that I could not hardly move.
I had to take pain meds and go to a doctor and chiropractor. Very different than the upright vertical birth of my 1st birth. It is impossible to move around on a bed at the hospital or at home to change positions. It is a good idea to try vertical 1st .
ya think...what gave it away...the plastic...hospital birth is fake...we create the drama so we can ride in on our white horses and save the day...."you are lucky we got it in time, or we could have lost you and the baby"...."OH thank you DOCTOR...we will never forget what you have done for us."...you want to see a real birth check out Monty Python's Sketch...you will both laugh and cry at the same time....they tell it like it is.
PLEASE NOTE: Instead of having Mom lay on her back and push, move the MOM. Ask her to try different positions...usually asking mom to get on all fours or "hands and knees". Usually, unless fetal distress is an issue, moving mom will be far more effective and less invasive and overall less stressful.
YES YES....thank you Leslie....read, read and inform yourself of what we do to poor unsuspecting and uninformed mothers in the name of progress and medical heroics...it is sad to the extreme.
a quote from a leading OBGYN at a conference—a midwife asked why not let gravity do the work—his response still gets me laughing—FOR REAL HE SAID: "gravity doesn't work on all women"—wow—who would have thunk it? I guess that is why we see so many flying around like Mary Poppins...Get a MIDWIFE - be happy!
@NatureTrumpsGMO That response is so shockingly bad but I can't help but laugh at it. You know they say even doctors with C averages can practice but that statement makes me think he might have done worse than that in high school.
@danischmell My thoughts exactly. Sadly managing dystocia as describes can cause brachial plexus injury. At times this can make the babies entire arm motionless for the rest of his life.
The McRoberts maneuver gives "an extra centimeter" -- squatting or hands-and-knees positions routinely give a couple of centimeters and perhaps more. Maybe a better move would be the preventive step of having mothers be upright or squatting while giving birth instead of on their backs.
i was a shoulder dystocia baby even though i was premature. my Mom is on the smaller side at 5'3" but that's certainly usually big enough to deliver a baby, especially a premature one. i was born in 1986 and she said they used the mcroberts to get me out. no lasting harm to me, and my sister was born 2 years later at full term with no dystocia or any other problems.
sprinklefriend 1 week ago
u need to push to get the placenta out?
Sprakle347 1 month ago
@Sprakle347 not really docs are just impatient...it will come out on its own.Ive had 3 1 on the way.Midwives dont rush things docs do...they wanna get home and eat or move onto the next "patient"
COULDNTthinkNAMEOFa 3 days ago
Ok so I have to ask how many of these comments came from doulas, CBE's or other birth-workers? I think all our comments are too harmonious for a you tube video.:)
kenjahsmom 1 month ago
The Sad reality is that we teach OBYGNs more about litigation, insurance and leasing a Lexus than turning a baby...the old midwives have been kept out of the melee to the consternation of happy and harmonious outcomes that portend a life of health. The end result is 1 out of every 3 births in the USA end up with a c-section because of dystocia by default, design and dumbing down. This does create a healthier economy as we create clients and pension plans for medical professionals in the process.
NatureTrumpsGMO 1 month ago
This was a training video-fake vagina&baby. The real thing is a nightmare and
very serious form mom and baby. My son's face was beet red and swollen for days. My sacral-iliac joints were so jammed together that I could not hardly move.
I had to take pain meds and go to a doctor and chiropractor. Very different than the upright vertical birth of my 1st birth. It is impossible to move around on a bed at the hospital or at home to change positions. It is a good idea to try vertical 1st .
doula2010 3 months ago 2
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babyfacedstar 5 months ago
ya think...what gave it away...the plastic...hospital birth is fake...we create the drama so we can ride in on our white horses and save the day...."you are lucky we got it in time, or we could have lost you and the baby"...."OH thank you DOCTOR...we will never forget what you have done for us."...you want to see a real birth check out Monty Python's Sketch...you will both laugh and cry at the same time....they tell it like it is.
NatureTrumpsGMO 1 month ago
No mamy blu.
yohel69 6 months ago
PLEASE NOTE: Instead of having Mom lay on her back and push, move the MOM. Ask her to try different positions...usually asking mom to get on all fours or "hands and knees". Usually, unless fetal distress is an issue, moving mom will be far more effective and less invasive and overall less stressful.
LeslieDoula 8 months ago 6
YES YES....thank you Leslie....read, read and inform yourself of what we do to poor unsuspecting and uninformed mothers in the name of progress and medical heroics...it is sad to the extreme.
a quote from a leading OBGYN at a conference—a midwife asked why not let gravity do the work—his response still gets me laughing—FOR REAL HE SAID: "gravity doesn't work on all women"—wow—who would have thunk it? I guess that is why we see so many flying around like Mary Poppins...Get a MIDWIFE - be happy!
NatureTrumpsGMO 1 month ago
@NatureTrumpsGMO That response is so shockingly bad but I can't help but laugh at it. You know they say even doctors with C averages can practice but that statement makes me think he might have done worse than that in high school.
kenjahsmom 1 month ago
um... anyone think of trying the Gaskin maneuver? Way less invasive.
danischmell 8 months ago 8
@danischmell My thoughts exactly. Sadly managing dystocia as describes can cause brachial plexus injury. At times this can make the babies entire arm motionless for the rest of his life.
kenjahsmom 1 month ago
Please watch "Newborn Birth Injuries: The Untold Story"
amanthaeliza 11 months ago
very interesting
kenjahsmom 1 year ago
The McRoberts maneuver gives "an extra centimeter" -- squatting or hands-and-knees positions routinely give a couple of centimeters and perhaps more. Maybe a better move would be the preventive step of having mothers be upright or squatting while giving birth instead of on their backs.
KatsyFGA 1 year ago 27
@KatsyFGA yep, squat and hands and knees both can produced up to 3 extra centimeters while reducing the likely hood of a BP injury.
kenjahsmom 1 month ago