makes sense. keeping energy coiled before being released. stay compacted using gravity results in a more controlled and powerful explosion upon release.
of course that's just one aspect of a power pitcher.
As soon as you let gravity take over you expand your release window. You store energy in your Back Leg and, to keep athletically stacked moving into your Foot Plant, you trigger your Foot Plant with your Glove Hand.
Using gravity, striding or cocking blocks your Hip activity at Foot Plant, physically limits your Hip rotation and causes your release window to expand.
Visit the ProPitchingInstitute to see how Pitching Chain Management maximizes results.
Nor do i think is there any correlation between "early core activation" and control e.g. Nolan Ryan (an early core activator) had worse control then Wood (particularly early in Ryan's career). Perhaps "late core activation" puts more torque on the elbow, increasing the risk of traumatic arm injuries.
@aplisi I think we're talking about 2 separate things. The "early core activation" I refer to is the Pitcher making a specific Arm/Leg action to keep his weight centered within his Body. Keeping your weight centered within your Body allows you to land your Foot Strike in an athletically stacked position.
"Late core activation" occurs when a pitcher lands an "unstacked" Foot Strike, instinctively regains their posture and then delivers the pitch.
I don't think "early core activation" makes for an effective pitcher, nor do I think "late core activation" creates an ineffective pitcher. Kerry Wood had years when he was very effective (in 2003 he had 3.20 ERA with 266K).
@aplisi Watch any Pitcher on television. Pitchers with "early core activation" (making Arm/Leg movements to keep their Head over their Bellybutton while standing on just their one leg) clearly pound their target without their target moving than Pitchers who lose their Head/Bellybutton alignment.
You'll find extreme command issues (surviving by being effective wild) with Pitchers showing "late core activation".
@tomitstube Close. A To Flight pitching motion happens so quickly it seems like the Pitcher simultaneously contracts and falls. Looking at the same motion as a Pitching Chain - a one-page. stop-action film strip - you realize otherwise.
The Pitching Chain clearly shows the Pitcher keeps their weight centered within their Body. There no evidence of any weight imbalance the would prompt the Pitcher to fall forward.
Visit the ProPitchingInstitute for more on Pitching Chain Management.
@TheXDTroy Someone already pointed out my mis-spelling. It makes me feel really good to know that a missing "S" is the only constructive criticism you had about this video.
that wasn't his only criticism, he was just pointing out that you are an idiot. cole hamels is one of the most well known arms in the league and you got his name wrong.
@stirling513 Your Throwing Arm discomfort indicates you prematurely lose the energy stored in your Hips. As a result, you end up delivering your pitches with your Throwing Arm working independently from your Hips.
To directly answer your question, send me your pitching motion video. I'll break your video down into a pitching chain, look for your disruptive Arm/Leg movements and tell you whether your weight comes too far forward too soon in your motion.
Should you take the time to study the Top #1 Starting Pitching motions, you'll find their Hand/Leg actions keep their Back Shoulders over their Back Foot through their Separation, their Core remains vertical and their Shoulder stay horizontal into their Loading Phase.
With enough practice, you can also recognize disruptive actions within a motion and the reactions caused by for each movement.
Send me you pitching motion video and I'll prove this to you.
@pitchingsolutions lol not that hard to find out... if ur arm hurts it may be because your throwing motion got messed up o.O i'd recomand not throwing too much if it hurts or u may blow ur shouler/elbow out xD it hurts trust me QQ u will miss baseball QQ
your idea of storing energy is bogus. you cant store it. you need to be elastic. storing it just slows you down and prevents momentum, which is truly the key to pitching
To the trained Eye, all the truly Elite MLB Pitchers use their Hand and Leg movements to prompt a Back Knee reaction. To you their Back Leg may look like it collapses, but their synchronized Hand and Leg motions create their Back Knee bend. In reference to a productive Back Knee action, their Back Knee comes over their Back Toe without moving toward the plate. Take a more critical look at the best pitching motions and you'll see what I'm talking about.
kerry wood would've been more dominant had it not been for arm injuries which are related to his arm action. is anyone seriously buying this guys bullshit about using "hand eye coordination to find the target". you're not touching the catchers mitt with your hand. if you have a good understanding of your mechanics you actually don't really need eyes.
What was Mark Prior's major mechanical flaw? I've never seen someone as good (great, actually) as him burn out so fast. Hideo Nomo and Ramon Martinez supposedly had major mechanical problems but they lasted way longer and had far fewer injuries than Prior did.
To say that Nomo had major mechanical problems says the same thing about every Japanese pitcher. Everybody has a different delivery over there as opposed to here where everybody is taught to mimic Roger Clemens' motion.
I agree, with an elite pitching motion, you can throw quality pitches with your Eyes shut. However, when the pitching motion is less than elite, you need your Eyes to guide your Throwing Hand through a productive release point. Kerry Wood would have been more dominant had he relied on his motion to produce his results. He actually relied upon Eye/Hand coordination to produce his results causing him to become very injury prone.
@pitchingsolutions... What is your opinion of Pedro Martinez's pitching motion? Admittedly, it was much more slow and deliberate and less herky-jerky later in his career. His brother Ramon was notoriously criticized for having different deliveries from game to game when he was young.
To me, Pedro Martinez does not have a teachable . Certain Hand/Leg movements caused his Core to tilt. This forced him to rely on Hand/Eye coordination to find his target and made his motion injury prone.
World class athletes can get away with Hand/Eye coordination. Young Ramon was searched daily for a productive release point.
I teach Pitchers who struggle with their Hand/Eye coordination to use their Lower Body to drive their Upper Body through a naturally productive release point.
Warren Spahn stated in 1989 that most pitchers he saw pitching at the time had poor mechanics and singled out Orel Hershiser, Nolan Ryan, Doc Gooden and Roger Clemens as pitchers with good mechanics. Interestingly, Clemens and Ryan had been fairly injury-prone to that point in their careers and Gooden suffered a career-altering shoulder injury midseason that year and ditto Hershiser the following year.
Admittedly, not everyone can be as fluid as Greg Maddux, Don Sutton or Mariano Rivera.
@Gerkinstock Spahn was right. Clemens pitched 24 seasons and Ryan pitched 27 and both of them threw a lot of innings.They both threw hard into their 40's.
Whoever made this is just dumb. To say that wood has worse mechanics and that it shows in woods era. You do realize that their career ERA's are almost identical. Right now Hamels is 3.66 and woods is 3.69. You might want to actually do some research before you make dumb statements like that.
Wood does not have good mechanics, and he never has. Of course, the reason for his numerous injuries, as well as those of Mark Prior are because of over-use and poor mechanics.
Cole Hamels has only played four full seasons, while Wood has played 11. At this point in Wood's career (first four seasons), his ERA was 3.75 with an ERA+ of 113. Hamels' ERA up to this point is 3.71 with a 121 ERA+. Hamels has been better up to this point, and his mechanics are fantastic compared to Wood's.
exactly. not to mention this guy is talking about "storing energy" and how kerry wood has none of that. did people forget that kerry wood used to throw 100 mph ebfore surgery and still gets it up to 96/97 sometimes while hamels can barely touch 94 on a GOOD day? now if your going to talk about arm action, then yeah kerry wood is obviously horrible. but if your going to talk about use of the body to generate record-breaking velocities, then why not look at kerry wood.
Lets ignore the fact that cole hamels Elbow is way above the plane opf his shoulder putting him at risk for elbow/shoulder problems...Cole Hamels is NOT the way kids chould be pitching look at maddux, clemens, or seaver
makes sense. keeping energy coiled before being released. stay compacted using gravity results in a more controlled and powerful explosion upon release.
of course that's just one aspect of a power pitcher.
tomitstube 8 months ago
@tomitstube Thanks, but let me clarify.
As soon as you let gravity take over you expand your release window. You store energy in your Back Leg and, to keep athletically stacked moving into your Foot Plant, you trigger your Foot Plant with your Glove Hand.
Using gravity, striding or cocking blocks your Hip activity at Foot Plant, physically limits your Hip rotation and causes your release window to expand.
Visit the ProPitchingInstitute to see how Pitching Chain Management maximizes results.
pitchingsolutions 8 months ago
Nor do i think is there any correlation between "early core activation" and control e.g. Nolan Ryan (an early core activator) had worse control then Wood (particularly early in Ryan's career). Perhaps "late core activation" puts more torque on the elbow, increasing the risk of traumatic arm injuries.
aplisi 11 months ago
@aplisi I think we're talking about 2 separate things. The "early core activation" I refer to is the Pitcher making a specific Arm/Leg action to keep his weight centered within his Body. Keeping your weight centered within your Body allows you to land your Foot Strike in an athletically stacked position.
"Late core activation" occurs when a pitcher lands an "unstacked" Foot Strike, instinctively regains their posture and then delivers the pitch.
"Early Activation" creates better results.
pitchingsolutions 11 months ago
I don't think "early core activation" makes for an effective pitcher, nor do I think "late core activation" creates an ineffective pitcher. Kerry Wood had years when he was very effective (in 2003 he had 3.20 ERA with 266K).
aplisi 11 months ago 3
@aplisi Watch any Pitcher on television. Pitchers with "early core activation" (making Arm/Leg movements to keep their Head over their Bellybutton while standing on just their one leg) clearly pound their target without their target moving than Pitchers who lose their Head/Bellybutton alignment.
You'll find extreme command issues (surviving by being effective wild) with Pitchers showing "late core activation".
L. a."Skip" Fast
Professional Pitching Institute
pitchingsolutions 11 months ago
i dont see what u mean by how they move their heads forward and store energy in their back legs
millerliteisgud 1 year ago
@millerliteisgud ~ what he means is to contract your body during your windup, while falling toward the plate.
it's the same principle a snake uses when coiling for an attack.
tomitstube 8 months ago
@tomitstube Close. A To Flight pitching motion happens so quickly it seems like the Pitcher simultaneously contracts and falls. Looking at the same motion as a Pitching Chain - a one-page. stop-action film strip - you realize otherwise.
The Pitching Chain clearly shows the Pitcher keeps their weight centered within their Body. There no evidence of any weight imbalance the would prompt the Pitcher to fall forward.
Visit the ProPitchingInstitute for more on Pitching Chain Management.
pitchingsolutions 8 months ago
Take a look at my sons vid and tell me if you see anything he needs work on?
CalShane1 1 year ago
Take a look at my son and tell me if you see anything he needs to work on to prevent injury? Thank you
Shane
CalShane1 1 year ago
@TheXDTroy Someone already pointed out my mis-spelling. It makes me feel really good to know that a missing "S" is the only constructive criticism you had about this video.
pitchingsolutions 1 year ago
@pitchingsolutions Sorry, but I happen to be a diehard Phils fan AND a grammar nazi.
TheXDTroy 1 year ago
@pitchingsolutions
that wasn't his only criticism, he was just pointing out that you are an idiot. cole hamels is one of the most well known arms in the league and you got his name wrong.
LikeHelicopterCams 11 months ago
my arm has been hurting but idont no if i pitch like the second guy
stirling513 1 year ago
@stirling513 Your Throwing Arm discomfort indicates you prematurely lose the energy stored in your Hips. As a result, you end up delivering your pitches with your Throwing Arm working independently from your Hips.
To directly answer your question, send me your pitching motion video. I'll break your video down into a pitching chain, look for your disruptive Arm/Leg movements and tell you whether your weight comes too far forward too soon in your motion.
pitchingsolutions 1 year ago
@pitchingsolutions thats bs. you have never seen this guy pitch and you magically know what is wrong his delivery already?
tim191219 1 year ago
@tim191219 Tim, it's not magic.
Should you take the time to study the Top #1 Starting Pitching motions, you'll find their Hand/Leg actions keep their Back Shoulders over their Back Foot through their Separation, their Core remains vertical and their Shoulder stay horizontal into their Loading Phase.
With enough practice, you can also recognize disruptive actions within a motion and the reactions caused by for each movement.
Send me you pitching motion video and I'll prove this to you.
Skip
pitchingsolutions 1 year ago
@pitchingsolutions lol not that hard to find out... if ur arm hurts it may be because your throwing motion got messed up o.O i'd recomand not throwing too much if it hurts or u may blow ur shouler/elbow out xD it hurts trust me QQ u will miss baseball QQ
TheWhiteBankai 1 year ago
your idea of storing energy is bogus. you cant store it. you need to be elastic. storing it just slows you down and prevents momentum, which is truly the key to pitching
bangsnapsgalore 1 year ago
downward head movement is only your back knee collapsing. when it bends it you should be going forward already.
iShockerBBC 2 years ago
pitchingsolutions 1 year ago
btw cole hamels with an S at the end
ky4l55e 2 years ago 2
kerry wood would've been more dominant had it not been for arm injuries which are related to his arm action. is anyone seriously buying this guys bullshit about using "hand eye coordination to find the target". you're not touching the catchers mitt with your hand. if you have a good understanding of your mechanics you actually don't really need eyes.
DiskidsacomIetehomo 2 years ago
What was Mark Prior's major mechanical flaw? I've never seen someone as good (great, actually) as him burn out so fast. Hideo Nomo and Ramon Martinez supposedly had major mechanical problems but they lasted way longer and had far fewer injuries than Prior did.
Gerkinstock 2 years ago
its because Prior was so big and that basically put way more weight on his arm
iShockerBBC 2 years ago
no its because his arm action brought his elbow high above his shoulder putting a shit load of stress on his elbow and shoulder and it blew.
SimpleStuff31 1 year ago
To say that Nomo had major mechanical problems says the same thing about every Japanese pitcher. Everybody has a different delivery over there as opposed to here where everybody is taught to mimic Roger Clemens' motion.
SoftBank47 1 year ago
no its because his arm action brought his elbow high above his shoulder putting a shit load of stress on his elbow and shoulder and it blew.
SimpleStuff31 1 year ago
pitchingsolutions 1 year ago
@pitchingsolutions... What is your opinion of Pedro Martinez's pitching motion? Admittedly, it was much more slow and deliberate and less herky-jerky later in his career. His brother Ramon was notoriously criticized for having different deliveries from game to game when he was young.
Gerkinstock 1 year ago
To me, Pedro Martinez does not have a teachable . Certain Hand/Leg movements caused his Core to tilt. This forced him to rely on Hand/Eye coordination to find his target and made his motion injury prone.
World class athletes can get away with Hand/Eye coordination. Young Ramon was searched daily for a productive release point.
I teach Pitchers who struggle with their Hand/Eye coordination to use their Lower Body to drive their Upper Body through a naturally productive release point.
pitchingsolutions 1 year ago
Warren Spahn stated in 1989 that most pitchers he saw pitching at the time had poor mechanics and singled out Orel Hershiser, Nolan Ryan, Doc Gooden and Roger Clemens as pitchers with good mechanics. Interestingly, Clemens and Ryan had been fairly injury-prone to that point in their careers and Gooden suffered a career-altering shoulder injury midseason that year and ditto Hershiser the following year.
Admittedly, not everyone can be as fluid as Greg Maddux, Don Sutton or Mariano Rivera.
Gerkinstock 1 year ago
@Gerkinstock Or Tom Seaver.
lothartheterrible 1 year ago
@Gerkinstock Spahn was right. Clemens pitched 24 seasons and Ryan pitched 27 and both of them threw a lot of innings.They both threw hard into their 40's.
themetalgod21 9 months ago
actually hes better than all the pitchers in the MLB
JOuimet2 2 years ago
Tim Lincecum is better than Cole Hamels
JOuimet2 2 years ago
they're both incredible pitchers.
brightdeltasun 2 years ago
Whoever made this is just dumb. To say that wood has worse mechanics and that it shows in woods era. You do realize that their career ERA's are almost identical. Right now Hamels is 3.66 and woods is 3.69. You might want to actually do some research before you make dumb statements like that.
jkpenguin 2 years ago
Wood does not have good mechanics, and he never has. Of course, the reason for his numerous injuries, as well as those of Mark Prior are because of over-use and poor mechanics.
Cole Hamels has only played four full seasons, while Wood has played 11. At this point in Wood's career (first four seasons), his ERA was 3.75 with an ERA+ of 113. Hamels' ERA up to this point is 3.71 with a 121 ERA+. Hamels has been better up to this point, and his mechanics are fantastic compared to Wood's.
EricAnno 2 years ago
exactly. not to mention this guy is talking about "storing energy" and how kerry wood has none of that. did people forget that kerry wood used to throw 100 mph ebfore surgery and still gets it up to 96/97 sometimes while hamels can barely touch 94 on a GOOD day? now if your going to talk about arm action, then yeah kerry wood is obviously horrible. but if your going to talk about use of the body to generate record-breaking velocities, then why not look at kerry wood.
DiskidsacomIetehomo 2 years ago
kerry wood sucks ass hard with the indians
samtheman1256 2 years ago
who is cole hamel? is he related to cole hamels?
kennocure5 2 years ago
lol
iTyyler 2 years ago
same dude asshole
ry32l 2 years ago
hahahahaha
brightdeltasun 2 years ago
so what kerry wood had 20k's in one game
maggotsretards 2 years ago
yah about 4 years ago
ry32l 2 years ago
Lets ignore the fact that cole hamels Elbow is way above the plane opf his shoulder putting him at risk for elbow/shoulder problems...Cole Hamels is NOT the way kids chould be pitching look at maddux, clemens, or seaver
bigtortiaman 2 years ago
hamels has unique but vertually perfect mechanics...his elbow is in perfect position...thats the reason why he hasnt sustained any arm injuries yet
ry32l 2 years ago
read much? this guy has been complaining about his shoulder and elbow all season.
DiskidsacomIetehomo 2 years ago
yea...hes human, all pitchers arms get sore at some point...and that wasnt even what kept him on the DL! he had an ankle issue. jackass, read much?
ry32l 2 years ago
cole hamels stupid
26philsphan 2 years ago
"you can see this in his ERA" hahaha connected well or terribly, that was funny
lifeafter79 2 years ago