Fascism & Communism are atheist inventions.You'd think with their lack of belief in God they'll invent more humane political ideologies.When in fact they're the biggest psycho mass killers of all time.
@atheistcrimes "Fascism & Communism are atheist inventions."
...whilst Christian inventions include the guillotine, waterboarding, and nuclear bombs. But just because something was invented by a person of a particular belief system doesn't mean that invention is somehow representative of their belief system. Wouldn't you agree?
Moreover, Facism and Communism promote worship of the state (which is why they outlaw god-worship). Most atheists are against any form of worship.
Atheists are the biggest psycho mass-killers of all time?
Hitler was a Catholic. Elizabeth Bathory was a Catholic. The Salem Witch Trials were carried out by Catholics. The Crusades were carried out by Catholics. The Inquisition was carried out by Catholics. Less than 1% of all prison inmates in the USA are atheist, while over 70% of them are Christian/Catholic.
You did not back your statement up at all therefore; your argument is invalid.
Atheists Stalin & Mao alone killed 100 million combined.Hitler WAS catholic but later became an occultist.Salem witch-hunts killed less than 2 dozen you freakin idiot !!!!
1. Hitler's religion is debatable although his autobiography shows that he was a Catholic. Even if he wasn't, his soldiers who actually did the killing were Catholic/Lutheran.
2. Stalin and Mao didn't kill in the name of atheism, but in the name of communism. China had a state religion, by the way.
3. I think you failed to address my other points. Why not? It's ironic, since you're the one calling me an idiot.
1. Hitler stopped doing the sacraments but what he said in Mein Kamf shows that he was a theist: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." Even if he wasn't, his soldiers, who did the killing, were Catholic.
2. Mao was not deified however, we was worshiped almost as one by his followers. State religion means that the belief is in the state, although it is still religion.
Hermann Rauschning in the book "Hitler M`a Dit" said that everything Hitler said Mein Kamf has been just a simple propaganda
"we was worshiped almost"
be seriously... I can say that today's atheists kids worshiped Richard Dawkins ..almost You saw what attacks they began to launch against William Craig, soon as the man criticized Dawkins , almost as if Craig, had committed blasphemy.
1. Okay, so we have one person's word against another's. Who's right? We don't know because Hitler is dead. Now, even if Hitler was an atheist, he did not actually carry out the action of killing people. His soldiers, the ones who actually killed and tortured people, WERE Catholic.
2. I don't know anyone who worships Dawkins. Admire him, sure, but not worship. He isn't our leader. Also, most attacks on Craig are not because he insults Dawkins, but because his arguments are STUPID.
im german and live in the area where hitler went to church every fuckin sunday bitch ........ how can you ever bring up a LOL. (stupid language by the way) that he was atheist ? then Mao Ze Dong was fuckin buddhism ............ atheism sucks....? men you are as same retarded as the language you using, no wonder you belive in god because your small brain cannot follow anything
@MrPersonManXIII "I'm pretty sure albert einstein would have had a religon if he didn't live in germany when hitler was happening ..."
Einstein moved out of Germany in 1933. You don't think Einstein's lack of belief in a personal god might have had something to do with his exploring the wonders of the universe and simply not seeing any evidence of one?
Lincoln was a non-denominational christian, Jefferson was a semi-christian as he had come unorthodox theological views, but still a believer and Darwin always maintained he was an agnostic (he lost his faith at the death of his daughter not due to his theory of evolution) and Franklin was at least a deist, as was Einstein. And As was at least Twain, as he was a Freemason (and belief in a higher power is an obligation) . The poster is rather retarded.
Christians or theists in general hold the same beliefs. They belief in a God. That all the answers of life are in one book and nothing else can be true and such.
Atheists just don't belief in God. It's like putting everyone in the same group that doesn't belief in Bigfoot.
A well, I live in Europe so not gone bother to much thinking about religion ^^.
Excellent, VyckRo. Atheists are hypocritical to be pointing the finger at "priests" pedophiles and thieves "pastors" but are quick to disassociate Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Lenin and other atheism, saying "they did not do these things in the name of atheism". Are quick to be pointing Christians failed but can not find fault in Christ.
@StephenDeMille He believed in slavery. His ultimate goal was to enslave men to men. He was a pacifist. He believed that beggars were morally superior to producers, because they didn't have anything. He thought that money was bad. He didn't believe in reality. He didn't exist. He was insane.
@mrhnm We have two problems: 1) that I HATE to debate in social media. Youtube is only to post comments 2) I'm in Brazil and my forum is in Portuguese. Thus, it is limited means answer it here. I do not like. I like to quote a lot, and use references to that Youtube is horrible. I prefer to use YouTube as a platform to comment on anything but continue the debate in the Forum. If you want to ...
@mrhnm If you want to continue to post here what you think about Jesus I will have the maximum pleasure in collecting all that said, translated to Portuguese (his fellow atheists to the land of Santa Cruz) and answer them.
@mrhnm You and your fellow atheists are sometimes very inconsistent and paradoxical. First, you claim that Jesus was a lot of things, then deny that He existed. Now, if it were so simple, why not just compare it to the fairy garden? Why spend rivers and rivers of arguments to try to defecate on what they think about Jesus? If he was so useless, retarded, insane or non-existent as they claim, why so angry with him?;)
@StephenDeMille The question of whether or not he existed is beside the point really. One can hardly ignore that he had an affect on the world. I argue that affect was for the worse.
Your argument assumes a lack of belief caused atrocities.
Your use of 'LOL' spam in the first minute of the video seems to be an insecure and incoherent attempt at mockery. It came off as petty and undermined your own argument. You also only used two 'anti-atheist' motivational posters, while using seven, if I counted correctly, atheist motivational posters.
So in short-- thank you for helping our Atheist cause! It's quite appreciated, my presumably Christian friend! =)
wtf, why is between "10 People" Albert Kinsey? He was awsome revolutionary sexuologist. And btw. Joseph Stalin was studied christian orthodox school and he had to be pope... and he was not atheist, because of his cult of personality. He fought against other religions because he think about himself as about God and any other God do not have right to be in Soviet Union, then he.
I disagree with the anti-religious posters that insinuate "without religion, many horrible atrocities like 9/11, the Crusades, and the Inquisition would never have happened!" Even without religion, you still have bad people doing bad things. I think anti-theists lashing out against religion this way are trying to find a simple solution to a complex problem.
To VyckRo, may God bless you and your beautiful Romanian homeland, with its lovely Orthodox cathedrals.
@zeppelin8 But those bad people would have no motive to do bad things i.e 9/11, the Crusades and the inquisition without their religion which was basically twisted to back up their goal. And as you may know people are much more reluctant to kill without reason. We are still rational beings (nearly all of us).
What problem? What is the complex problem? Spirituality? It's only complex if you make it be and of course you make it be to prevent a simple solution.
@NordicAspect Well, I guess the complex problem, as I see it, lies somewhere within the sciences of psychology and human behaviour. I think that religion serves as an excellent banner for people to propagate a cause, but if you take that away, they will still find some way of justifying what they do, whether it be through their politics, philosophies, or what have you. I really like the last line of your response. I'm going to take a while to think about it.
@zeppelin8 You know, I just read an interesting study conducted by some university in England and some researchers from the states. It was about people being naturally over optimistic. See, humans are (as far as we know) the only animal capable of realizing their impending death and the optimism is to counter the depression that's bound to occur from that knowledge. It was really interesting and had thorough explanation of which part of the brain did what (frontal cortex: future planning etc.)..
@zeppelin8 ..Let's not go into details, anyway, that made me think that perhaps religions were made simply to soothe the negativity of death or the uncertainty of it. It's funny because that study did say that people tend to ignore the negative things and come up with optimistic events made possible by the negative one i.e death -> fancy afterlife in heaven, death -> rebirth as something better, death -> 72 virgins and paradise, the similarity is unquestionable. What do you think of this?
@NordicAspect (response to your post about the afterlife)- you bring up a good point here, too. I've heard of this study and would like to read it in depth. Unfortunately, I am aware that many crooked religious people take advantage of this human insecurity of death so they can exploit people, convert them out of fear and take their money. I fully admit that it is possible that religions may have had their genesis from this knowledge of impending death.
@zeppelin8 It just hit me, the name of that article is "The optimism bias" if you're interested just look it up on google it should be the first one to pop up.
The fear of death is one possible motive for it but not by any chance the only one. And as much as I'd like to just say it's religion alone that's causing all that exploitation, well, it's not. It's merely a tool, a middleman, catalyst or whatever, capable of much good as well. It's a strange world we live you wouldn't you say?
@NordicAspect Indeed it is :) I"ll be sure to search up The Optimism Bias.
And I've always wondered what the world would be like if religion had never existed... though I guess the only way to see such an effect would be to alter the past. I agree that it is a tool and a catalyst, and it's hard for me sometimes to judge the degree to which religion can be blamed for atrocities, since it's so deeply woven into many cultures.
@zeppelin8 That it is. We may never know what the future holds for us but I can say for sure that religion will never die. There are nearly 7 billion of us and everyone is different, thinks differently. There will always be those who seek comfort from the unknown. Whether that's a good or a bad thing is not for me to decide, it's not for you to decide, it's not for VyckRo to decide. And yet, look at suggestions, those tell a sad story.
Well you have all the communists up there now lets see all the muslim and christian mass murderers through out history, oh wait there are to many to put on a poster.
@VyckRo 1. What about Hussien who used chemical weapons? (for example). 2. So what? the ancient warlords didn't have access to modern weapons if they did they would use them.
A war is a war, whether you use swords and crossbows, or machine guns and ballistic missiles.
No wars have been waged in the name of atheism but there has been much killing in the name of a god. Don't agree? Then explain the Crusades, 9/11, and the Inquisition.
Now, you might bring up people like Mao or Stalin and say "Hey, they were atheist!". Yes, but communist China and Russia had state religions, where the leaders (especially Mao) were revered as living gods.
@mrhnm Ok, while we christians have a bunch of mass murderers, you athiests have the worst and most horrible dictator of all, Stallin. He killed over 10 million Ukrainians by forced famine. And thats just Ukrainians alone. You can't even compaire that to Hittler. And Stalin also sent thousands of Ukrainian orthodox priests to Siberian work camps just because religion in general is unexeptible to the eyes of Stalin. And why do I not think that another athiest leader will not do the same again?
@alexmoskov You are troll. If you weren't you would have read the rest of the comment. Of course people are capable for their actions. Stalin was an atheist, but that's NOT why he did the evil things he did.
@mrhnm oh sorry, I thought you ment that since he is an athiest he did'nt mean to do it or something. my mistake. but what I was trying to say was that athiests can do shitty things too you know, not just christians.
@alexmoskov Of course. But you seem to be making a mistake. Atheism is a very misleading word. It tells you nothing of what someone believes, it tells you what he doesn't believe, on ONE issue.
@mrhnm yeh ok. but keep in mind, christians can't always be the bad guys. Well except for them muslims. Anyway, nice talking to you bro. Hope you stay happy in life. :)
@mrhnm Ignorant. Even the alleged numbers (and atheists are bad history in statistics) who supposedly think the Inquisition and the Crusades (the Inquisition was not pitch this claim) did not cause the death of even the smallest of people who committed atheist systems in the twentieth century.
What happens when you die? Have you told lies, stolen, used God's name in vain(10 Commandments)? If yes, then you're a liar, thief, and a blasphemer in the sight of God. When you die & be judged by God, you'll be guilty of sin, & go to Hell! But God sent His Son Jesus to shed His blood & die on a cross for your sins, He was buried & rose again from the dead on the third day. If you'll believe the Gospel(Jesus's death for your sins, His burial & resurrection)you'll not perish & have eternal life
I don't get you at all ... you seem to promote cristianity and anti-atheism ... but on the other hand your logic and some of your vids seem like you promote atheism and anti-cristianity ... WTF I'm so confused ... what are you and what are you trying to say ?
Cum poţi să te exprimi cu adevărat liber cât timp ceea ce vrei să spui este oprit de revelaţia divină din cartea sfântă a unei religii? Cum ai putea critica, judeca sau pune la îndoială ceva ce vine direct de la un zeu? Cum ai putea să te aperi argumentand raţional pentru o libertate de gândire când cartea sfântă spune că dacă te îndoieşti de zeul suprem meriţi să mori? Şi moartea nu este o ameninţare în van, de la Socrate încoace, cei care s-au indoit de zei nu au avut o soartă uşoară.
Also, regarding the French Revolution: during the Revolution, on 10 November 1793, a Goddess of Reason was proclaimed by the French Convention at the suggestion of Chaumette. As personification for the goddess, Sophie Momoro, wife of the printer Antoine-François Momoro, was chosen. The goddess was celebrated in Notre Dame de Paris (she was put on the high altar in the Cathedral). This would not be Atheism even if they called her the Goddess of Atheism (an oxymoron).
Also, regarding the French Revolution: during the Revolution, on 10 November 1793, a Goddess of Reason was proclaimed by the French Convention at the suggestion of Chaumette. As personification for the goddess, Sophie Momoro, wife of the printer Antoine-François Momoro, was chosen. The goddess was celebrated in Notre Dame de Paris (she was put on the high altar in the Cathedral). This would not be Atheism even if they called her the Goddess of Atheism (an oxymoron).
Ateismul este recunoscut ca originand cu refolutia franceza ateismul statal cu siguranta, bine ca au veniti atei sa schimbe istoria umanitati dupa placul lor.
I would really like to see how you would convince a bunch of peasants to go to war and work the field in the name of Atheism. Or run an economy and a government with the words "There is no Divine".
I wasn't aware of Stalin's alleged religious leanings, but it wouldn't come as any surprise; like most people, he was raised in a society with religion. Nor would his ousting of religion, even if he maintained some inner personal leanings toward "faith", be a surprise; he wanted complete power, and religion was a rival for power.
Stalin had no proof that Communism was superior and would crush capitalism; he took that belief on faith. Hitler's fantasies about Jewish conspiracy and the superiority of the Reich? Again, no evidence, just faith of a strength on par with that of Biblical prophets. Mao Zedong justified his catastrophic Great Leap Forward not with empirical backing, but monstrous faith that it would work miracles.
Atheist of today have no proof that if they rid the world of religion something will be changed, but they have faith. Even if in atheistic countries, people are moving massive to astrology, miraculous crystals, miraculous plants, magic elixirS, vegetarianism. they ( the Atehist) have FAITH!
Which are equally stupid. Even though strife and human suffering won't be removed, and other isms would have to be abolished (like racism, specism, sexism, ageism, heterosexism, homophobia and transphobia, antisemitism and many other forms of xenophobia) that does not mean they should be encouraged. The people which turn to those forms of religulousness are not atheists, but nonreligious people (which can be Christians, Muslims, Jews and what not).
This situation isn't exclusive to Russia, but in all the communist countries in which the Orthodox Church operated. One such country is Romania. The whores who operated the government made Greek Catholicism illegal and confiscated all the Churches and buildings, only to give them to the Orthodox Church. The patriarch of Romania, Justinian Marina said: "Christ is the new Man,. The new man is is the soviet man. Therefore Christ is a soviet." He called Nicolae Causescu a secular God.
That's for forgetting all those priests,killed by atheists at Pitesti, Jilava, Aiud.
All churches destroyed in the name of atheism??
correct?
The events shown by you, just show how great is the atheists perversity , the atheists infiltrated the church, corrupted the clergy, turned Christians, one against others
Are you that stupid. Show me one single dissident atheist who was allowed free because of his Atheism, and a single priest which was imprisoned, even though he was in cahoots with the regime. Thou shalt not lie was the motto. Are you really this intellectually dishonest?
Dacă o discuţie ajunge să implice şi ceva religie, un ateu pierde din start. Nu poti să vorbeşti în faţa unui credincios despre nonexistenţa lui Dumnezeu, să ceri dovezi, să prezinţi convingeri personale. Esti pus la zid imediat, esti privit cu dispret, şi chiar dacă nu au argumente de existenţa Divinităţii, te fac să te simţi ca un păcătos.
Poate vrei sa spui Ateu te priveste cu dispret cum ma facut asta ca la utilisatorur de mai sus ca vezi doamne atei civa sunt destepti si noi restul retardati si inferiori!
Nu cu asta doar atei se desfata, doar ca atunci cand vorbeste un ATEU ai mazga pe ochi si nu vezi greslile lui. Asta pt voi va imaginati ca sunte-ti intr-un razboi cu culturasi civilizatia europeana (aka Crestinismul)!
**** bleagă, Păgânismul şi Pax Romana, cultura greacă şi cu influenţe din Egipt, şi nu cultul deşertului ce a ucis filosofi şi cărturari, care a instaurat frica în imperiu. După ce aţi ajuns la putere, nu v-aţi lăsat până nu a-ţi ars templele şi bibliotecile. Biblioteca din Alexandria e doar una din momentele de glorie ale aşa zisei culturi creştinotarde.
Esti dus cu pluta omule biblioteca din Alexandria a distrusa in timpul lui Cesar, nu iti mai lua cultura din filme, ba mai zic uni ca a fost distrusasi de musulmani si nu stiu mai de cine, parca e un video-game cu o biblioteca nemuritoare care trebuie sa fie omorata de 3 ori (arsa din temeli) si ea ranasere ca pasarea fenix.
Crestinismul a inventat Universitatile, Spitalele stiinta moderna in sine!
De fapt el are dreptate. Caută în orice carte de istorie sau enciclopedie serioasă despre Teodosius şi distrugerea Serapeului în 391: "Paganism was made illegal by an edict in 391. The holdings of the Great Library (both at the Mouseion and at the Serapeum) were on the precincts of pagan temples. While this had previously lent them a measure of protection, in the days of the Christian Roman Empire, whatever protection this had previously afforded them had ceased. "
Phillip K Hitti states that the story "is one of those tales that make good fiction but bad history." He goes on, "the great Ptolemic library was burnt as early as 48 BC by Julius Ceasar. A later one, referred to as the daughter library, was destroyed about AD 389 as a result of an edict by the Emperor Theodosius. At the time of the Arab conquest, therefore, no library of importance existed in Alexandria and no contemporary writer ever brought the charge about Amr or Umar."
Dus cu pluta eşti tu. Acele universităţi şi spitale nu ar fi valorat nimic fără munca erudiţilor din perioada Renaşcentistă (în care ia ghici cât de multă putere a pierdut biserica).
Crestinismul a furat morala. Crestinismul a transformat semnificatia lui “a fi moral” in “a fi obedient fata de niste legi primite telepatic de unii imbracati ciudat”. Oamenii nu-si mai pun probleme de genul “ce inseamna sa fii moral?”, “de ce ar trebui sa fiu moral?”, “de ce a fost imoral sa fac X in situatia Y?” pentru ca raspunsurile sunt gata pregatite.
Daca mai vorbim si de abominatia cu spovedania care sterge cu buretele imoralitatile din trecut situatia e si mai sumbra.
Also, regarding the French Revolution: during the Revolution, on 10 November 1793, a Goddess of Reason was proclaimed by the French Convention at the suggestion of Chaumette. As personification for the goddess, Sophie Momoro, wife of the printer Antoine-François Momoro, was chosen. The goddess was celebrated in Notre Dame de Paris (she was put on the high altar in the Cathedral). This would not be Atheism even if they called her the Goddess of Atheism (an oxymoron).
As I have described, Stalin decided that Communism made people perfect, so genetics didn’t matter. He murdered the whole Medicogenetical Institute and put Lysenko in charge of Soviet genetic. Lysenko decided to make winter wheat by freezing summer wheat for a while, and that was one of his more logical ideas.
Only Communism could make the Breadbasket of Europe starve.
Are you really this stupid. Are you really a cretin? Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of the Divine. Communism is a sociopolitical movement that aims for a classless and stateless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production, free access to articles of consumption, and the end of wage labour and private property in the means of production and real estate. Stop spewing you bollocks!
De la începutul ei şi până în prezent visul oricărei religii este oprirea discursului liber şi automat al criticii şi gândirii raţionale. Mii de ani au reuşit, dar acum castelul începe să se fărâme.
Creştinismul în particular a hotărât destinele a milioane de oameni, de la ungerea reprezentanţilor domnului în scaune de împăraţi şi regi până la ţinerea sclavilor la locul lor promiţându-le viaţă mai bună în eternitatea vieţii viitoare (dar între timp stai şi munceşte până mori).
Khrushchev came over to America in the 50s and he found out what the American Secret was: America produced CORN. So Russians, already on the brink of starvation, were ordered to plant American-style corn. Russia is not America. You can plant maize almost anywhere here and it will grow to some extent. Only a Communist would ORDER it to grow most places north of Crimea.
Communism is PRIMITIVE. It is a Cult, like Political Correctness. So is the idea that there is some SECRET, some KEY to capitalist success. Mao decided that all of the Western countries produced STEEL. So he set up a Great Leap Forward dedicated to producing steel.
I would really like to see how you would convince a bunch of peasants to go to war and work the field in the name of Atheism. Or run an economy and a government withe words "There is no Divine".
This is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Are you really this intellectually dishonest? There are also theists, deists, pantheist and agnostic scientists. The question was about ignorant peasants. Deus lo vult has been the cry of soldiers and warlords for millennia.
I wish you had all seen a documentary about North Korea. It freezes your gizzard. All the pictures on walls are of The Leader. It takes you a while to understand the old lady is thanking The Leader thinking of an old woman and giving her the apartment.
The documentary is about a doctor who went to North Korea and did a hundred or so simple sty removals on blind people there. All of them, when the bandages were removed and they could see, thanked the Leader. No one mentioned the doctor.
In North Korea it is simple: Your job is to be loyal to one thing, The Leader, period. No confusion is allowed. Results don’t matter in North Korea because every failure can and will be blamed on saboteurs. In North Korea, failures just provide an opportunity to knock off “strays” for disloyalty.
In North Korea they don't thank the gods, they thank the leader. How is this Atheism again? That is because everything is driven through the play of loyalties, not logic. This gets very confusing in highly literate societies that pretend they have freedom of speech and where you have hordes of intellectuals in confusion about loyalty.
George Trofimoff, the highest-ranking US military officer ever indicted for, and convicted of, espionage by the United States and sentenced to life imprisonment on September 27, 2001, had been "recruited into the service of the KGB" by Igor Susemihl (a.k.a. Zuzemihl), a bishop in the Russian Orthodox Church (subsequently, a high-ranking hierarch - the ROC Metropolitan Iriney of Vienna, who died in July 1999
Gleb Yakunin, a defrocked Priest and critic of the Moscow Patriarchate who was one of those who had access to the KGB archive documents in the early 1990s, argued that the Moscow Patriarchate was "practically a subsidiary, a sister company of the KGB".
Between 1945 and 1959 the official organization of the church was greatly expanded, although individual members of the clergy were occasionally arrested and exiled. The number of open churches reached 25,000. By 1957 about 22,000 Russian Orthodox churches had become active.
This is considered by some violation of the XXX Apostolic canon, as no church hierarch could be consecrated by secular authorities. A new patriarch was elected, theological schools were opened, and thousands of churches began to function. The Moscow Theological Academy Seminary, which had been closed since 1918, was re-opened.
On September 4, 1943, Metropolitans Sergius, Alexy and Nikolay had a meeting with Stalin and received a permission to convene a council on September 8, 1943, which elected Sergius Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia.
After Nazi Germany's attack on the Soviet Union in 1941, Joseph Stalin revived the Russian Orthodox Church to intensify patriotic support for the war effort.
This situation isn't exclusive to Russia, but in all the communist countries in which the Orthodox Church operated. One such country is Romania. The whores who operated the government made Greek Catholicism illegal and confiscated all the Churches and buildings, only to give them to the Orthodox Church. The patriarch of Romania, Justinian Marina said: "Christ is the new Man,. The new man is is the soviet man. Therefore Christ is a soviet."
"I don't worship a God who endorses slavery but one Who's teachings ended slavery around the world."
First of all, the word is 'whose'. Second, the Bible has been used to condone slavery more than it has been used to end it. After all, God loves murdering, committing genocide, and laying down laws about how beating slaves is okay as long as they're able to stand up after a day or two. Don't forget, Jesus said he came to uphold the old teachings, so they're both equally guilty.
Atheism only means the absence of the belief in a/any God, apart from that atheists differ a lot, there are assholes, good people, and something inbetween. For the mass-murdering part, It is kind of the same reasoning as: Mao was right-handed, therefore all right-handed people are bad. These guys did it out of political ideology, not based on religious (dis)beliefs. Statistics show that atheists, on average, are higher educated, and make up less than 1% of all the inmates in American prisons
Your a fucking moron! I want to feel as if I could possibly change your opinion but ignorant assholes like you are never worth the time, YOUR WAY TOO THICK HEADED! Go suck C.S. Lewis's dick!
1. You are refusing to accept the existence of atoms and atomic theory?
2a. This one is supposed to be sarcastic against the whole, "America is a christian country". It isn't, Thomas Jefferson specifically said so.
2b. Except for the part where the dictators said the state is above everything. i.e., the state is god.
3. Marx/Lenin/Stalin/Pol/Zedong were socialists. It works like this: Socialism->Communism->dissolve of the centralized government->no more human suffering, no more wars.
I always find it interesting how religious people bring up communism and fascism as more aligned with atheist then theist. The only difference is the worship of an infallible head of state compared to an infallible god. While it may technically be an atheistic society, the spirit of it is more aligned with the blind, unwavering, faith of theists.
Even if every charge against atheists in this video is correct, and I don't believe they are Christians killed more. Had it not been for the religious persecution of science then the enlightenment and the resulting advances in medicine and agriculture would have happened sooner thereby saving billions of lives. Hitler has slain his millions, the Church, has slain billions.
Oh and also to mention, "the virgin Mary" is a mistranslation. The actual term was "the young Mary", as in the pretranslation language virgin and young were very close
belief or none belief in God does not stop people doing nasty things to other people. No one has ever been killed in the name of atheism you could not say the same for God.
Stalin may have been an atheist but also he was an arsehole
@angrywhenroused True. Dictators are psychopaths. They have no conscience to begin with, and are likely born that way. They will use whatever is available around them (Religion, Atheism, Communism, etc.) if it will help them attain their psychopathic goals. To say this or that dictator "believed" one way or another is irrelevant. The only thing a despot believes in is himself.
Um..Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were not evil because they lacked a belief in God or gods. They were evil because they were COMMUNISTS! Jefferson, Ben Franklin, Lincoln, FDR, Einstein at el were good people because they were DEMOCRATS/REPUBLICANS! (BTW Hitler was a pagan not an atheist.)
@MrTickleparty "if someones does believes the teaching of their faith there is no reasoning with that person" - So forget conversions right? "decisions making process in modern societies tries to do what is best for all, or use reason, logic and rational. Where as with religion, they do whats best for their followers, exclusively" - Give specific examples because what you said is just patently false to the point where the examples I can give is...EVERY Example.
@MrTickleparty "Exclusivists that put their beliefs on others will always be a problem" - Exclusivitity is a part of opinion. This goes for anything, politics, religion, societal pratices. If you believe your opinion to be the correct one (Why else would you believe that opinion then) than of course you would believe that other opinions are NOT correct. THis is very basic human nature. But for Christianity, its not a matter of not accepting them, but of not believing them. Very different
@MrTickleparty However, after the end of the united Muslim caliphate, a school of thought in Islam took control which decreed that Islam would be a religion of forcefully will, not loving peaceful obedience to God (Allah) This school of thought has dominated Islam for centuries, interupted only by the Ottoman Empire and re-emerged after the end of WWI. islam in its roots is a religion of peace. " I see what type of Christian u r" -And which would that be?
@MrTickleparty " It almost like when Muslims say they are a religion of peace." -...I dont even know what to say to this. Islam since its begining has been a very peaceful religion, partly due to Christianity and Euro-centric influences in its earliest stages. Islam began in its tribal roots, but as the Caliphate grew, European influences took root in Islam, this is the reason why Islamic states were the first to have universal education.
@MrTickleparty "Why b/c you knew the founding fathers never mentioned Christianity for a reason?" - There is no mention of Christianity in the constitution, true. However, the freedom of religion to interact and influence society is a given right and religious express is handled in a way that would not have given the founders of America thought for praise, but cause for revolution. Its not the most important fact, its just the one most distorted by atheists, Treat of Tripoli rather than Amend. 1
@MrTickleparty "Nothing but they feel the need to enter the classroom and act like science is against them." -They dont, secularists have been the one framing the issue as if this is science v. Religion when in fact the two have been sisters for centuries, Christians being the forefront of science for milenia. Religious people have been constantly saying for years that science is not the enemy of religion, but secularists keep perpetuating this myth, as you are now.
@MrTickleparty Americans have traditionally been religious, their leaders have tradtionally been religious, people came to the Eastern US to pratice their religion freely, and most of the founding fathers were Christians and ALL of them supported Christian influences in the governemnt (I know you'll bring up state/religion dont bother because constitutionally thats NOT what it means) Also, its not a matter of science doesnt have all the answers is that some parts of evolution ISNT science.
@MrTickleparty In that case, Hinduism is a LOT like paganism only with Eastern cultural aspects. "and at least they recognize other faiths" -Which brings me to my second point, not all Hinduisms do, many actually DONT accept other gods in their belief system. There are Vishnuites who do not believe that Krishna is the supreme being and some who do. So you're wrong on that matter. "The founding of America had nothing to do with any particular faith, it was very clear" -That is plain wrong.
@MrTickleparty "Maybe Christianity is unique to you b/c its your faith" - No, I mean historically. No other religion has ever been like Christianity and no other group of religious people have ever been like Christians and no other holy book has ever been like the bible. Thats just a fact. And Hinduism isnt that A religion, its a SERIES of religions. There is no central form of Hinduism, so each religion has to be treated as seperate religions .
@MrTickleparty One more thing: Benjamin Franklin was not an atheist. Thomas Jefferson was a weak believer who did believe in some parts of Christianiy, but WAS ultimately a Deist who relied heavily on Christian teachings without ever saying what they really were. Benjamin Franklin suggested that the Congressional Congress begin each morning with prayer, and he led such prayer. THe Historical facts is that MOST of the founding fathers were Christians. America gets historical amnesia it seems.
@MrTickleparty "When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours" - That would make sense is you could use argues against other Gods that you do with Christianity. Christianity is the most unique religion on earth, you cant argue against the Greek gods and the Judeo-Christian god the same way. You make the issue less complex than it actually is. Good job. And no, atheist means you believe in no Gods. You fail at definitions sir.
you are a sad fool
TheXanku 1 month ago
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Damianingus 1 month ago
'The question is are there situations in which atheism can motivated crimes?'
Atheism is so scary, oh my, motivating people to reject god claims all willy nilly
unkledanbot 1 month ago 2
Fascism & Communism are atheist inventions.You'd think with their lack of belief in God they'll invent more humane political ideologies.When in fact they're the biggest psycho mass killers of all time.
atheistcrimes 1 month ago
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@atheistcrimes "Fascism & Communism are atheist inventions."
...whilst Christian inventions include the guillotine, waterboarding, and nuclear bombs. But just because something was invented by a person of a particular belief system doesn't mean that invention is somehow representative of their belief system. Wouldn't you agree?
Moreover, Facism and Communism promote worship of the state (which is why they outlaw god-worship). Most atheists are against any form of worship.
BailiffQuimby 1 month ago
@atheistcrimes
Atheists are the biggest psycho mass-killers of all time?
Hitler was a Catholic. Elizabeth Bathory was a Catholic. The Salem Witch Trials were carried out by Catholics. The Crusades were carried out by Catholics. The Inquisition was carried out by Catholics. Less than 1% of all prison inmates in the USA are atheist, while over 70% of them are Christian/Catholic.
You did not back your statement up at all therefore; your argument is invalid.
foojuice101 1 month ago
@foojuice101
Idiot,can you even do math?
Atheists Stalin & Mao alone killed 100 million combined.Hitler WAS catholic but later became an occultist.Salem witch-hunts killed less than 2 dozen you freakin idiot !!!!
atheistcrimes 1 month ago
@atheistcrimes
1. Hitler's religion is debatable although his autobiography shows that he was a Catholic. Even if he wasn't, his soldiers who actually did the killing were Catholic/Lutheran.
2. Stalin and Mao didn't kill in the name of atheism, but in the name of communism. China had a state religion, by the way.
3. I think you failed to address my other points. Why not? It's ironic, since you're the one calling me an idiot.
foojuice101 1 month ago
@foojuice101
1.The Bibliography on Hitler's life, suggests that he was an occultist
2.Stalin and Mao see the links from the info box.
VyckRo 1 month ago
@VyckRo
1. Hitler stopped doing the sacraments but what he said in Mein Kamf shows that he was a theist: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." Even if he wasn't, his soldiers, who did the killing, were Catholic.
2. Mao was not deified however, we was worshiped almost as one by his followers. State religion means that the belief is in the state, although it is still religion.
foojuice101 1 month ago 2
@foojuice101
"1. Hitler stopped"
Hermann Rauschning in the book "Hitler M`a Dit" said that everything Hitler said Mein Kamf has been just a simple propaganda
"we was worshiped almost"
be seriously... I can say that today's atheists kids worshiped Richard Dawkins ..almost You saw what attacks they began to launch against William Craig, soon as the man criticized Dawkins , almost as if Craig, had committed blasphemy.
VyckRo 1 month ago
@VyckRo
1. Okay, so we have one person's word against another's. Who's right? We don't know because Hitler is dead. Now, even if Hitler was an atheist, he did not actually carry out the action of killing people. His soldiers, the ones who actually killed and tortured people, WERE Catholic.
2. I don't know anyone who worships Dawkins. Admire him, sure, but not worship. He isn't our leader. Also, most attacks on Craig are not because he insults Dawkins, but because his arguments are STUPID.
foojuice101 1 month ago
im german and live in the area where hitler went to church every fuckin sunday bitch ........ how can you ever bring up a LOL. (stupid language by the way) that he was atheist ? then Mao Ze Dong was fuckin buddhism ............ atheism sucks....? men you are as same retarded as the language you using, no wonder you belive in god because your small brain cannot follow anything
orchidswholesale 2 months ago
Excellent video!
Nobleeagle100 2 months ago
I like all the violence and sex in the bible:) haha
bikeracerguy2 2 months ago
@bikeracerguy2
so?
sex?
and
big deal
Andytheantiathiest 1 month ago
I'm pretty sure albert einstein would have had a religon if he didn't live in germany when hitler was happening ...
MrPersonManXIII 3 months ago
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@MrPersonManXIII "I'm pretty sure albert einstein would have had a religon if he didn't live in germany when hitler was happening ..."
Einstein moved out of Germany in 1933. You don't think Einstein's lack of belief in a personal god might have had something to do with his exploring the wonders of the universe and simply not seeing any evidence of one?
BailiffQuimby 1 month ago
What I think is the funniest is that you assumed that the posters were anti-atheist. and their not. nice try at trolling, but you're made of fail
MyAndyno 3 months ago
why is karl marx s bad person, he was just a philosopher
Tacobelcannon 3 months ago 7
My main complaint about this video is not really it's content as the poor production quality of it.
It needs to be tightened up. I can't even read the text it goes so fast.
TheLoyalOfficer 4 months ago
What does the pope, billy graham, adolf hitler, stalin, pol pot, mussulini, mao, etc have in common ? they are all nutters.
debrainwasher1 4 months ago
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believer in what you people want, in the end we will see who is right
monkeywest12 4 months ago
Lincoln was a non-denominational christian, Jefferson was a semi-christian as he had come unorthodox theological views, but still a believer and Darwin always maintained he was an agnostic (he lost his faith at the death of his daughter not due to his theory of evolution) and Franklin was at least a deist, as was Einstein. And As was at least Twain, as he was a Freemason (and belief in a higher power is an obligation) . The poster is rather retarded.
gmcclelland1992 4 months ago
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loved it. You should have used the evil atheist alfred kinsey who had babies raped for science in one of your posters
vrodTHEAntiAtheist13 5 months ago
Ad hominem.
SThea89 5 months ago
I just feel ashamed to be from the same country as this dumbass!
Tzootzy 5 months ago
Don't really get it.
Christians or theists in general hold the same beliefs. They belief in a God. That all the answers of life are in one book and nothing else can be true and such.
Atheists just don't belief in God. It's like putting everyone in the same group that doesn't belief in Bigfoot.
A well, I live in Europe so not gone bother to much thinking about religion ^^.
Londron 5 months ago
Excellent, VyckRo. Atheists are hypocritical to be pointing the finger at "priests" pedophiles and thieves "pastors" but are quick to disassociate Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Lenin and other atheism, saying "they did not do these things in the name of atheism". Are quick to be pointing Christians failed but can not find fault in Christ.
StephenDeMille 5 months ago
@StephenDeMille I can find plenty of fault in christ. Where to begin?
mrhnm 5 months ago
@mrhnm You can start:)
StephenDeMille 5 months ago
@StephenDeMille He believed in slavery. His ultimate goal was to enslave men to men. He was a pacifist. He believed that beggars were morally superior to producers, because they didn't have anything. He thought that money was bad. He didn't believe in reality. He didn't exist. He was insane.
Shall I continue?
mrhnm 5 months ago
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@mrhnm We have two problems: 1) that I HATE to debate in social media. Youtube is only to post comments 2) I'm in Brazil and my forum is in Portuguese. Thus, it is limited means answer it here. I do not like. I like to quote a lot, and use references to that Youtube is horrible. I prefer to use YouTube as a platform to comment on anything but continue the debate in the Forum. If you want to ...
StephenDeMille 5 months ago
@mrhnm If you want to continue to post here what you think about Jesus I will have the maximum pleasure in collecting all that said, translated to Portuguese (his fellow atheists to the land of Santa Cruz) and answer them.
StephenDeMille 5 months ago
@StephenDeMille I'm not parsing the meaning behind your words.
mrhnm 5 months ago
@mrhnm You and your fellow atheists are sometimes very inconsistent and paradoxical. First, you claim that Jesus was a lot of things, then deny that He existed. Now, if it were so simple, why not just compare it to the fairy garden? Why spend rivers and rivers of arguments to try to defecate on what they think about Jesus? If he was so useless, retarded, insane or non-existent as they claim, why so angry with him?;)
StephenDeMille 5 months ago
@StephenDeMille The question of whether or not he existed is beside the point really. One can hardly ignore that he had an affect on the world. I argue that affect was for the worse.
mrhnm 5 months ago
We should all wear our IQs tattooed on our foreheads.
That way the religious idiots would see in a glance what we see all the time: their own stupidity !!
Oh, boy, if they could only SEE !
labxxw 5 months ago
Your argument assumes a lack of belief caused atrocities.
Your use of 'LOL' spam in the first minute of the video seems to be an insecure and incoherent attempt at mockery. It came off as petty and undermined your own argument. You also only used two 'anti-atheist' motivational posters, while using seven, if I counted correctly, atheist motivational posters.
So in short-- thank you for helping our Atheist cause! It's quite appreciated, my presumably Christian friend! =)
theseawolf13 5 months ago
"Atheism - enough for these idiots", now I understand, it is troll video! :)
kikirikikirlafsdfskd 6 months ago
@kikirikikirlafsdfskd
A "troll video! " whit almost 5000 visitors and 500 comments, why you do not have such a " troll video" ???
However, it is known that any criticism of atheism is "trolling"
VyckRo 6 months ago
@VyckRo Maybe, better then to create atheist inquisition or atheist crusades... ;););) :D
kikirikikirlafsdfskd 6 months ago
wtf, why is between "10 People" Albert Kinsey? He was awsome revolutionary sexuologist. And btw. Joseph Stalin was studied christian orthodox school and he had to be pope... and he was not atheist, because of his cult of personality. He fought against other religions because he think about himself as about God and any other God do not have right to be in Soviet Union, then he.
kikirikikirlafsdfskd 6 months ago
I disagree with the anti-religious posters that insinuate "without religion, many horrible atrocities like 9/11, the Crusades, and the Inquisition would never have happened!" Even without religion, you still have bad people doing bad things. I think anti-theists lashing out against religion this way are trying to find a simple solution to a complex problem.
To VyckRo, may God bless you and your beautiful Romanian homeland, with its lovely Orthodox cathedrals.
zeppelin8 7 months ago
@zeppelin8 But those bad people would have no motive to do bad things i.e 9/11, the Crusades and the inquisition without their religion which was basically twisted to back up their goal. And as you may know people are much more reluctant to kill without reason. We are still rational beings (nearly all of us).
What problem? What is the complex problem? Spirituality? It's only complex if you make it be and of course you make it be to prevent a simple solution.
NordicAspect 6 months ago
@NordicAspect Well, I guess the complex problem, as I see it, lies somewhere within the sciences of psychology and human behaviour. I think that religion serves as an excellent banner for people to propagate a cause, but if you take that away, they will still find some way of justifying what they do, whether it be through their politics, philosophies, or what have you. I really like the last line of your response. I'm going to take a while to think about it.
zeppelin8 5 months ago
@zeppelin8 You know, I just read an interesting study conducted by some university in England and some researchers from the states. It was about people being naturally over optimistic. See, humans are (as far as we know) the only animal capable of realizing their impending death and the optimism is to counter the depression that's bound to occur from that knowledge. It was really interesting and had thorough explanation of which part of the brain did what (frontal cortex: future planning etc.)..
NordicAspect 6 months ago
@zeppelin8 ..Let's not go into details, anyway, that made me think that perhaps religions were made simply to soothe the negativity of death or the uncertainty of it. It's funny because that study did say that people tend to ignore the negative things and come up with optimistic events made possible by the negative one i.e death -> fancy afterlife in heaven, death -> rebirth as something better, death -> 72 virgins and paradise, the similarity is unquestionable. What do you think of this?
NordicAspect 6 months ago
@NordicAspect (response to your post about the afterlife)- you bring up a good point here, too. I've heard of this study and would like to read it in depth. Unfortunately, I am aware that many crooked religious people take advantage of this human insecurity of death so they can exploit people, convert them out of fear and take their money. I fully admit that it is possible that religions may have had their genesis from this knowledge of impending death.
zeppelin8 5 months ago
@zeppelin8 It just hit me, the name of that article is "The optimism bias" if you're interested just look it up on google it should be the first one to pop up.
The fear of death is one possible motive for it but not by any chance the only one. And as much as I'd like to just say it's religion alone that's causing all that exploitation, well, it's not. It's merely a tool, a middleman, catalyst or whatever, capable of much good as well. It's a strange world we live you wouldn't you say?
NordicAspect 5 months ago
@NordicAspect Indeed it is :) I"ll be sure to search up The Optimism Bias.
And I've always wondered what the world would be like if religion had never existed... though I guess the only way to see such an effect would be to alter the past. I agree that it is a tool and a catalyst, and it's hard for me sometimes to judge the degree to which religion can be blamed for atrocities, since it's so deeply woven into many cultures.
zeppelin8 5 months ago
@zeppelin8 That it is. We may never know what the future holds for us but I can say for sure that religion will never die. There are nearly 7 billion of us and everyone is different, thinks differently. There will always be those who seek comfort from the unknown. Whether that's a good or a bad thing is not for me to decide, it's not for you to decide, it's not for VyckRo to decide. And yet, look at suggestions, those tell a sad story.
It's been nice talking to you reasonably.
NordicAspect 5 months ago
@NordicAspect It is always a pleasure to talk to reasonable people. Thank you for granting me some of your time :)
zeppelin8 5 months ago
@zeppelin8 You have a point to a degree, how ever religion is a symptom of a greater problem.
mrhnm 5 months ago
Well you have all the communists up there now lets see all the muslim and christian mass murderers through out history, oh wait there are to many to put on a poster.
mrhnm 7 months ago 9
@mrhnm
atheist win, they used mitraliela and missiles! more, more effective than sword and shield
VyckRo 7 months ago
@VyckRo 1. What about Hussien who used chemical weapons? (for example). 2. So what? the ancient warlords didn't have access to modern weapons if they did they would use them.
mrhnm 7 months ago
@VyckRo Good. Atheist in history sucks.
StephenDeMille 5 months ago
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@VyckRo Good. Atheists in history are bad..
StephenDeMille 5 months ago
@VyckRo
Bush...that's all I need to say on that one.
Londron 5 months ago
@VyckRo not when the shield is a magnetic shield.and your respons to mrhnm was irrelivant to his comment.
MrPersonManXIII 3 months ago
@VyckRo
A war is a war, whether you use swords and crossbows, or machine guns and ballistic missiles.
No wars have been waged in the name of atheism but there has been much killing in the name of a god. Don't agree? Then explain the Crusades, 9/11, and the Inquisition.
Now, you might bring up people like Mao or Stalin and say "Hey, they were atheist!". Yes, but communist China and Russia had state religions, where the leaders (especially Mao) were revered as living gods.
foojuice101 1 month ago
@mrhnm Ok, while we christians have a bunch of mass murderers, you athiests have the worst and most horrible dictator of all, Stallin. He killed over 10 million Ukrainians by forced famine. And thats just Ukrainians alone. You can't even compaire that to Hittler. And Stalin also sent thousands of Ukrainian orthodox priests to Siberian work camps just because religion in general is unexeptible to the eyes of Stalin. And why do I not think that another athiest leader will not do the same again?
alexmoskov 5 months ago
@alexmoskov Stalin didn't do his evil because he was an atheist.
mrhnm 5 months ago
@mrhnm What do you mean Stalin did'nt do his evil? Are you saying his actions are not his fault?!!
alexmoskov 5 months ago
@alexmoskov You are troll. If you weren't you would have read the rest of the comment. Of course people are capable for their actions. Stalin was an atheist, but that's NOT why he did the evil things he did.
mrhnm 5 months ago
@mrhnm oh sorry, I thought you ment that since he is an athiest he did'nt mean to do it or something. my mistake. but what I was trying to say was that athiests can do shitty things too you know, not just christians.
alexmoskov 5 months ago
@alexmoskov Of course. But you seem to be making a mistake. Atheism is a very misleading word. It tells you nothing of what someone believes, it tells you what he doesn't believe, on ONE issue.
mrhnm 5 months ago
@mrhnm yeh ok. but keep in mind, christians can't always be the bad guys. Well except for them muslims. Anyway, nice talking to you bro. Hope you stay happy in life. :)
alexmoskov 5 months ago
@alexmoskov Individuals are bad not groups. People are individuals not groups.
mrhnm 5 months ago
@mrhnm Indeed.
alexmoskov 5 months ago
@mrhnm Ignorant. Even the alleged numbers (and atheists are bad history in statistics) who supposedly think the Inquisition and the Crusades (the Inquisition was not pitch this claim) did not cause the death of even the smallest of people who committed atheist systems in the twentieth century.
Atheism is good in bad propaganda since 1792.
StephenDeMille 5 months ago
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@StephenDeMille I have no idea what you are trying to say.
mrhnm 5 months ago
@mrhnm
Christian mass murderes ?
their are none
Andytheantiathiest 1 month ago
@Andytheantiathiest Hitler was Catholic.Next stupid statement please.
mrhnm 1 month ago
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@Andytheantiathiest Christian mass murderes ? their are none"
LOL. The popes and kings who ordered the Crusades? Torquemada? Hitler? Or don't they count?
BailiffQuimby 1 month ago
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What happens when you die? Have you told lies, stolen, used God's name in vain(10 Commandments)? If yes, then you're a liar, thief, and a blasphemer in the sight of God. When you die & be judged by God, you'll be guilty of sin, & go to Hell! But God sent His Son Jesus to shed His blood & die on a cross for your sins, He was buried & rose again from the dead on the third day. If you'll believe the Gospel(Jesus's death for your sins, His burial & resurrection)you'll not perish & have eternal life
gramosjr7 8 months ago
rigggght. What a load of shite that was.
laneypuss 8 months ago
I don't get you at all ... you seem to promote cristianity and anti-atheism ... but on the other hand your logic and some of your vids seem like you promote atheism and anti-cristianity ... WTF I'm so confused ... what are you and what are you trying to say ?
StefanWizard 8 months ago
Cum poţi să te exprimi cu adevărat liber cât timp ceea ce vrei să spui este oprit de revelaţia divină din cartea sfântă a unei religii? Cum ai putea critica, judeca sau pune la îndoială ceva ce vine direct de la un zeu? Cum ai putea să te aperi argumentand raţional pentru o libertate de gândire când cartea sfântă spune că dacă te îndoieşti de zeul suprem meriţi să mori? Şi moartea nu este o ameninţare în van, de la Socrate încoace, cei care s-au indoit de zei nu au avut o soartă uşoară.
IulianRemo 8 months ago
@MrThebiggdude11
Eu nu scriu în engleză ca să înţeleagă şi alţii ce am scris aici, nu, eu o fac pentru lulz :].
TheThordir 8 months ago
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Also, regarding the French Revolution: during the Revolution, on 10 November 1793, a Goddess of Reason was proclaimed by the French Convention at the suggestion of Chaumette. As personification for the goddess, Sophie Momoro, wife of the printer Antoine-François Momoro, was chosen. The goddess was celebrated in Notre Dame de Paris (she was put on the high altar in the Cathedral). This would not be Atheism even if they called her the Goddess of Atheism (an oxymoron).
TheThordir 8 months ago
Also, regarding the French Revolution: during the Revolution, on 10 November 1793, a Goddess of Reason was proclaimed by the French Convention at the suggestion of Chaumette. As personification for the goddess, Sophie Momoro, wife of the printer Antoine-François Momoro, was chosen. The goddess was celebrated in Notre Dame de Paris (she was put on the high altar in the Cathedral). This would not be Atheism even if they called her the Goddess of Atheism (an oxymoron).
TheThordir 8 months ago
@TheThordir
Ateismul este recunoscut ca originand cu refolutia franceza ateismul statal cu siguranta, bine ca au veniti atei sa schimbe istoria umanitati dupa placul lor.
VyckRo 8 months ago
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I would really like to see how you would convince a bunch of peasants to go to war and work the field in the name of Atheism. Or run an economy and a government with the words "There is no Divine".
TheThordir 8 months ago
I wasn't aware of Stalin's alleged religious leanings, but it wouldn't come as any surprise; like most people, he was raised in a society with religion. Nor would his ousting of religion, even if he maintained some inner personal leanings toward "faith", be a surprise; he wanted complete power, and religion was a rival for power.
TheThordir 8 months ago
Stalin had no proof that Communism was superior and would crush capitalism; he took that belief on faith. Hitler's fantasies about Jewish conspiracy and the superiority of the Reich? Again, no evidence, just faith of a strength on par with that of Biblical prophets. Mao Zedong justified his catastrophic Great Leap Forward not with empirical backing, but monstrous faith that it would work miracles.
TheThordir 8 months ago
@TheThordir
Atheist of today have no proof that if they rid the world of religion something will be changed, but they have faith. Even if in atheistic countries, people are moving massive to astrology, miraculous crystals, miraculous plants, magic elixirS, vegetarianism. they ( the Atehist) have FAITH!
VyckRo 8 months ago
@VyckRo
Which are equally stupid. Even though strife and human suffering won't be removed, and other isms would have to be abolished (like racism, specism, sexism, ageism, heterosexism, homophobia and transphobia, antisemitism and many other forms of xenophobia) that does not mean they should be encouraged. The people which turn to those forms of religulousness are not atheists, but nonreligious people (which can be Christians, Muslims, Jews and what not).
TheThordir 8 months ago
This situation isn't exclusive to Russia, but in all the communist countries in which the Orthodox Church operated. One such country is Romania. The whores who operated the government made Greek Catholicism illegal and confiscated all the Churches and buildings, only to give them to the Orthodox Church. The patriarch of Romania, Justinian Marina said: "Christ is the new Man,. The new man is is the soviet man. Therefore Christ is a soviet." He called Nicolae Causescu a secular God.
TheThordir 8 months ago
@TheThordir
That's for forgetting all those priests,killed by atheists at Pitesti, Jilava, Aiud.
All churches destroyed in the name of atheism??
correct?
The events shown by you, just show how great is the atheists perversity , the atheists infiltrated the church, corrupted the clergy, turned Christians, one against others
VyckRo 8 months ago
@VyckRo
Are you that stupid. Show me one single dissident atheist who was allowed free because of his Atheism, and a single priest which was imprisoned, even though he was in cahoots with the regime. Thou shalt not lie was the motto. Are you really this intellectually dishonest?
TheThordir 8 months ago
@TheThordir
"Are you that stupid"
see "Wurmbrand - Atheist Inquisition" on YT. "Soviet anti-religious legislation" or "Russian Society of the Godless" on google!
esti spalat pe creier si atat de plin de ura incat est demn sa te chemi ateu!
VyckRo 8 months ago
@VyckRo
Anti-teismul comuniştilor a fost necesar. Ambele ideologii bayate pe credinţă se băteau pe ciolan.
IulianRemo 8 months ago
@VyckRo
Să uităm totuşi că ingnoranţa este o virtute teistă. Să confunzi ateismul cu comunismul sau nayismul denotă o lipsă crasă de cultură şi discernământ.
IulianRemo 8 months ago
@VyckRo
Dacă o discuţie ajunge să implice şi ceva religie, un ateu pierde din start. Nu poti să vorbeşti în faţa unui credincios despre nonexistenţa lui Dumnezeu, să ceri dovezi, să prezinţi convingeri personale. Esti pus la zid imediat, esti privit cu dispret, şi chiar dacă nu au argumente de existenţa Divinităţii, te fac să te simţi ca un păcătos.
IulianRemo 8 months ago
@IulianRemo
Poate vrei sa spui Ateu te priveste cu dispret cum ma facut asta ca la utilisatorur de mai sus ca vezi doamne atei civa sunt destepti si noi restul retardati si inferiori!
VyckRo 8 months ago
@VyckRo
Mănânci desert turcesc cu gura plină.
TheThordir 8 months ago
@TheThordir
Nu cu asta doar atei se desfata, doar ca atunci cand vorbeste un ATEU ai mazga pe ochi si nu vezi greslile lui. Asta pt voi va imaginati ca sunte-ti intr-un razboi cu culturasi civilizatia europeana (aka Crestinismul)!
VyckRo 8 months ago
@VyckRo
**** bleagă, Păgânismul şi Pax Romana, cultura greacă şi cu influenţe din Egipt, şi nu cultul deşertului ce a ucis filosofi şi cărturari, care a instaurat frica în imperiu. După ce aţi ajuns la putere, nu v-aţi lăsat până nu a-ţi ars templele şi bibliotecile. Biblioteca din Alexandria e doar una din momentele de glorie ale aşa zisei culturi creştinotarde.
TheThordir 8 months ago
@TheThordir
Esti dus cu pluta omule biblioteca din Alexandria a distrusa in timpul lui Cesar, nu iti mai lua cultura din filme, ba mai zic uni ca a fost distrusasi de musulmani si nu stiu mai de cine, parca e un video-game cu o biblioteca nemuritoare care trebuie sa fie omorata de 3 ori (arsa din temeli) si ea ranasere ca pasarea fenix.
Crestinismul a inventat Universitatile, Spitalele stiinta moderna in sine!
Lazoo cu voi!
VyckRo 8 months ago
@VyckRo
De fapt el are dreptate. Caută în orice carte de istorie sau enciclopedie serioasă despre Teodosius şi distrugerea Serapeului în 391: "Paganism was made illegal by an edict in 391. The holdings of the Great Library (both at the Mouseion and at the Serapeum) were on the precincts of pagan temples. While this had previously lent them a measure of protection, in the days of the Christian Roman Empire, whatever protection this had previously afforded them had ceased. "
IulianRemo 8 months ago
@VyckRo
Phillip K Hitti states that the story "is one of those tales that make good fiction but bad history." He goes on, "the great Ptolemic library was burnt as early as 48 BC by Julius Ceasar. A later one, referred to as the daughter library, was destroyed about AD 389 as a result of an edict by the Emperor Theodosius. At the time of the Arab conquest, therefore, no library of importance existed in Alexandria and no contemporary writer ever brought the charge about Amr or Umar."
IulianRemo 8 months ago
@VyckRo
Dus cu pluta eşti tu. Acele universităţi şi spitale nu ar fi valorat nimic fără munca erudiţilor din perioada Renaşcentistă (în care ia ghici cât de multă putere a pierdut biserica).
IulianRemo 8 months ago
Crestinismul a furat morala. Crestinismul a transformat semnificatia lui “a fi moral” in “a fi obedient fata de niste legi primite telepatic de unii imbracati ciudat”. Oamenii nu-si mai pun probleme de genul “ce inseamna sa fii moral?”, “de ce ar trebui sa fiu moral?”, “de ce a fost imoral sa fac X in situatia Y?” pentru ca raspunsurile sunt gata pregatite.
Daca mai vorbim si de abominatia cu spovedania care sterge cu buretele imoralitatile din trecut situatia e si mai sumbra.
IulianRemo 8 months ago
@VyckRo
Also, regarding the French Revolution: during the Revolution, on 10 November 1793, a Goddess of Reason was proclaimed by the French Convention at the suggestion of Chaumette. As personification for the goddess, Sophie Momoro, wife of the printer Antoine-François Momoro, was chosen. The goddess was celebrated in Notre Dame de Paris (she was put on the high altar in the Cathedral). This would not be Atheism even if they called her the Goddess of Atheism (an oxymoron).
TheThordir 8 months ago
@TheThordir
" Goddess of Reason was proclaimed by the French Convention"
Atheism in its most pure form, and republican calendar and all that..
VyckRo 8 months ago
As I have described, Stalin decided that Communism made people perfect, so genetics didn’t matter. He murdered the whole Medicogenetical Institute and put Lysenko in charge of Soviet genetic. Lysenko decided to make winter wheat by freezing summer wheat for a while, and that was one of his more logical ideas.
Only Communism could make the Breadbasket of Europe starve.
TheThordir 8 months ago
@TheThordir
Communism = Atheist
VyckRo 8 months ago
@VyckRo Keep thinking that, it's simply not true. It's hate speech.
SoVvM 8 months ago
@VyckRo
Are you really this stupid. Are you really a cretin? Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of the Divine. Communism is a sociopolitical movement that aims for a classless and stateless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production, free access to articles of consumption, and the end of wage labour and private property in the means of production and real estate. Stop spewing you bollocks!
TheThordir 8 months ago
@TheThordir
I am not "Are you really this stupid. Are you really a cretin?"
whit this argument ends your presence on my channel!
A + Theism
A=Neative ( there is NOT)
Teos = God
Communism, also follows the installation of an atheist regime "state atheism" or "gosateizm"!
VyckRo 8 months ago
@VyckRo
De la începutul ei şi până în prezent visul oricărei religii este oprirea discursului liber şi automat al criticii şi gândirii raţionale. Mii de ani au reuşit, dar acum castelul începe să se fărâme.
Creştinismul în particular a hotărât destinele a milioane de oameni, de la ungerea reprezentanţilor domnului în scaune de împăraţi şi regi până la ţinerea sclavilor la locul lor promiţându-le viaţă mai bună în eternitatea vieţii viitoare (dar între timp stai şi munceşte până mori).
IulianRemo 8 months ago
Khrushchev came over to America in the 50s and he found out what the American Secret was: America produced CORN. So Russians, already on the brink of starvation, were ordered to plant American-style corn. Russia is not America. You can plant maize almost anywhere here and it will grow to some extent. Only a Communist would ORDER it to grow most places north of Crimea.
TheThordir 8 months ago
Communism is PRIMITIVE. It is a Cult, like Political Correctness. So is the idea that there is some SECRET, some KEY to capitalist success. Mao decided that all of the Western countries produced STEEL. So he set up a Great Leap Forward dedicated to producing steel.
TheThordir 8 months ago
I would really like to see how you would convince a bunch of peasants to go to war and work the field in the name of Atheism. Or run an economy and a government withe words "There is no Divine".
TheThordir 8 months ago
@TheThordir
very simple, convince those people that religion, wants to destroy science, and will fight for Atheism
VyckRo 8 months ago
@VyckRo
This is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Are you really this intellectually dishonest? There are also theists, deists, pantheist and agnostic scientists. The question was about ignorant peasants. Deus lo vult has been the cry of soldiers and warlords for millennia.
TheThordir 8 months ago
I wish you had all seen a documentary about North Korea. It freezes your gizzard. All the pictures on walls are of The Leader. It takes you a while to understand the old lady is thanking The Leader thinking of an old woman and giving her the apartment.
The documentary is about a doctor who went to North Korea and did a hundred or so simple sty removals on blind people there. All of them, when the bandages were removed and they could see, thanked the Leader. No one mentioned the doctor.
TheThordir 8 months ago
In North Korea it is simple: Your job is to be loyal to one thing, The Leader, period. No confusion is allowed. Results don’t matter in North Korea because every failure can and will be blamed on saboteurs. In North Korea, failures just provide an opportunity to knock off “strays” for disloyalty.
TheThordir 8 months ago
In North Korea they don't thank the gods, they thank the leader. How is this Atheism again? That is because everything is driven through the play of loyalties, not logic. This gets very confusing in highly literate societies that pretend they have freedom of speech and where you have hordes of intellectuals in confusion about loyalty.
TheThordir 8 months ago
Communism and Nazism are cargo cults.
TheThordir 8 months ago
George Trofimoff, the highest-ranking US military officer ever indicted for, and convicted of, espionage by the United States and sentenced to life imprisonment on September 27, 2001, had been "recruited into the service of the KGB" by Igor Susemihl (a.k.a. Zuzemihl), a bishop in the Russian Orthodox Church (subsequently, a high-ranking hierarch - the ROC Metropolitan Iriney of Vienna, who died in July 1999
TheThordir 8 months ago
Critics charge that the archives showed the extent of active participation of the top ROC hierarchs in the KGB efforts overseas.
TheThordir 8 months ago
Gleb Yakunin, a defrocked Priest and critic of the Moscow Patriarchate who was one of those who had access to the KGB archive documents in the early 1990s, argued that the Moscow Patriarchate was "practically a subsidiary, a sister company of the KGB".
TheThordir 8 months ago
Between 1945 and 1959 the official organization of the church was greatly expanded, although individual members of the clergy were occasionally arrested and exiled. The number of open churches reached 25,000. By 1957 about 22,000 Russian Orthodox churches had become active.
TheThordir 8 months ago
This is considered by some violation of the XXX Apostolic canon, as no church hierarch could be consecrated by secular authorities. A new patriarch was elected, theological schools were opened, and thousands of churches began to function. The Moscow Theological Academy Seminary, which had been closed since 1918, was re-opened.
TheThordir 8 months ago
On September 4, 1943, Metropolitans Sergius, Alexy and Nikolay had a meeting with Stalin and received a permission to convene a council on September 8, 1943, which elected Sergius Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia.
TheThordir 8 months ago
After Nazi Germany's attack on the Soviet Union in 1941, Joseph Stalin revived the Russian Orthodox Church to intensify patriotic support for the war effort.
TheThordir 8 months ago
This situation isn't exclusive to Russia, but in all the communist countries in which the Orthodox Church operated. One such country is Romania. The whores who operated the government made Greek Catholicism illegal and confiscated all the Churches and buildings, only to give them to the Orthodox Church. The patriarch of Romania, Justinian Marina said: "Christ is the new Man,. The new man is is the soviet man. Therefore Christ is a soviet."
TheThordir 8 months ago
lol very enlightening
this guys won't have any excuse before God
IloveYOUviruses 9 months ago
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@ElProximo
"I don't worship a God who endorses slavery but one Who's teachings ended slavery around the world."
First of all, the word is 'whose'. Second, the Bible has been used to condone slavery more than it has been used to end it. After all, God loves murdering, committing genocide, and laying down laws about how beating slaves is okay as long as they're able to stand up after a day or two. Don't forget, Jesus said he came to uphold the old teachings, so they're both equally guilty.
InexplicableHat 9 months ago
Atheism only means the absence of the belief in a/any God, apart from that atheists differ a lot, there are assholes, good people, and something inbetween. For the mass-murdering part, It is kind of the same reasoning as: Mao was right-handed, therefore all right-handed people are bad. These guys did it out of political ideology, not based on religious (dis)beliefs. Statistics show that atheists, on average, are higher educated, and make up less than 1% of all the inmates in American prisons
OhReallyNoWai 9 months ago
Your a fucking moron! I want to feel as if I could possibly change your opinion but ignorant assholes like you are never worth the time, YOUR WAY TOO THICK HEADED! Go suck C.S. Lewis's dick!
666Glasyalabolas 10 months ago
what a load of suck.
zerakren 10 months ago
1. You are refusing to accept the existence of atoms and atomic theory?
2a. This one is supposed to be sarcastic against the whole, "America is a christian country". It isn't, Thomas Jefferson specifically said so.
2b. Except for the part where the dictators said the state is above everything. i.e., the state is god.
3. Marx/Lenin/Stalin/Pol/Zedong were socialists. It works like this: Socialism->Communism->dissolve of the centralized government->no more human suffering, no more wars.
gdog066 10 months ago
WTF is that at the end , just .. the word , Atheism sucks??? you suck you douche bag !!!! with your crappy video !!!!
TheTorokboti 10 months ago
LOL-urile si "by vickro" nu-si aveau rostul in filmulet
haiuahastf 10 months ago
@haiuahastf
By vyckRo indica autorul posterelor!
VyckRo 10 months ago
I always find it interesting how religious people bring up communism and fascism as more aligned with atheist then theist. The only difference is the worship of an infallible head of state compared to an infallible god. While it may technically be an atheistic society, the spirit of it is more aligned with the blind, unwavering, faith of theists.
Pokarot 10 months ago 2
Even if every charge against atheists in this video is correct, and I don't believe they are Christians killed more. Had it not been for the religious persecution of science then the enlightenment and the resulting advances in medicine and agriculture would have happened sooner thereby saving billions of lives. Hitler has slain his millions, the Church, has slain billions.
SamWiseGingy 10 months ago
@SamWiseGingy
"persecution of science then the enlightenment and the resulting advances in medicine and agriculture"
for that see my vide "Challenge for Thunderf00t and his 130,000 Subscribers"
Challenge is open to everyone!!!
VyckRo 10 months ago
Oh and also to mention, "the virgin Mary" is a mistranslation. The actual term was "the young Mary", as in the pretranslation language virgin and young were very close
notdutchnotmuch 11 months ago
And I forgot the @Vyckro. Sorry for my mistake.
notdutchnotmuch 11 months ago
Why all the hate? Doesn't Christianity teach you be loving and tolerant? Please, heed your teachings.
notdutchnotmuch 11 months ago
@notdutchnotmuch That kinda makes defending your belief from pricks hard though
DimensionsofChange 10 months ago
belief or none belief in God does not stop people doing nasty things to other people. No one has ever been killed in the name of atheism you could not say the same for God.
Stalin may have been an atheist but also he was an arsehole
Hitler was a Catholic ad a very bad man
angrywhenroused 11 months ago
@angrywhenroused True. Dictators are psychopaths. They have no conscience to begin with, and are likely born that way. They will use whatever is available around them (Religion, Atheism, Communism, etc.) if it will help them attain their psychopathic goals. To say this or that dictator "believed" one way or another is irrelevant. The only thing a despot believes in is himself.
politicoochie09 11 months ago
Um..Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were not evil because they lacked a belief in God or gods. They were evil because they were COMMUNISTS! Jefferson, Ben Franklin, Lincoln, FDR, Einstein at el were good people because they were DEMOCRATS/REPUBLICANS! (BTW Hitler was a pagan not an atheist.)
mjh012363 11 months ago
I think your poster of a man throwing the concept of science in the bin is a perfect sign of how stupid you are.
RawryMcRawr 11 months ago
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@MrTickleparty "if someones does believes the teaching of their faith there is no reasoning with that person" - So forget conversions right? "decisions making process in modern societies tries to do what is best for all, or use reason, logic and rational. Where as with religion, they do whats best for their followers, exclusively" - Give specific examples because what you said is just patently false to the point where the examples I can give is...EVERY Example.
GermanConquistador08 11 months ago
@MrTickleparty "Exclusivists that put their beliefs on others will always be a problem" - Exclusivitity is a part of opinion. This goes for anything, politics, religion, societal pratices. If you believe your opinion to be the correct one (Why else would you believe that opinion then) than of course you would believe that other opinions are NOT correct. THis is very basic human nature. But for Christianity, its not a matter of not accepting them, but of not believing them. Very different
GermanConquistador08 11 months ago
@MrTickleparty However, after the end of the united Muslim caliphate, a school of thought in Islam took control which decreed that Islam would be a religion of forcefully will, not loving peaceful obedience to God (Allah) This school of thought has dominated Islam for centuries, interupted only by the Ottoman Empire and re-emerged after the end of WWI. islam in its roots is a religion of peace. " I see what type of Christian u r" -And which would that be?
GermanConquistador08 11 months ago
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@MrTickleparty " It almost like when Muslims say they are a religion of peace." -...I dont even know what to say to this. Islam since its begining has been a very peaceful religion, partly due to Christianity and Euro-centric influences in its earliest stages. Islam began in its tribal roots, but as the Caliphate grew, European influences took root in Islam, this is the reason why Islamic states were the first to have universal education.
GermanConquistador08 11 months ago
@MrTickleparty "Why b/c you knew the founding fathers never mentioned Christianity for a reason?" - There is no mention of Christianity in the constitution, true. However, the freedom of religion to interact and influence society is a given right and religious express is handled in a way that would not have given the founders of America thought for praise, but cause for revolution. Its not the most important fact, its just the one most distorted by atheists, Treat of Tripoli rather than Amend. 1
GermanConquistador08 11 months ago
@MrTickleparty "Nothing but they feel the need to enter the classroom and act like science is against them." -They dont, secularists have been the one framing the issue as if this is science v. Religion when in fact the two have been sisters for centuries, Christians being the forefront of science for milenia. Religious people have been constantly saying for years that science is not the enemy of religion, but secularists keep perpetuating this myth, as you are now.
GermanConquistador08 11 months ago
@MrTickleparty Americans have traditionally been religious, their leaders have tradtionally been religious, people came to the Eastern US to pratice their religion freely, and most of the founding fathers were Christians and ALL of them supported Christian influences in the governemnt (I know you'll bring up state/religion dont bother because constitutionally thats NOT what it means) Also, its not a matter of science doesnt have all the answers is that some parts of evolution ISNT science.
GermanConquistador08 11 months ago
@MrTickleparty In that case, Hinduism is a LOT like paganism only with Eastern cultural aspects. "and at least they recognize other faiths" -Which brings me to my second point, not all Hinduisms do, many actually DONT accept other gods in their belief system. There are Vishnuites who do not believe that Krishna is the supreme being and some who do. So you're wrong on that matter. "The founding of America had nothing to do with any particular faith, it was very clear" -That is plain wrong.
GermanConquistador08 11 months ago
@MrTickleparty "Maybe Christianity is unique to you b/c its your faith" - No, I mean historically. No other religion has ever been like Christianity and no other group of religious people have ever been like Christians and no other holy book has ever been like the bible. Thats just a fact. And Hinduism isnt that A religion, its a SERIES of religions. There is no central form of Hinduism, so each religion has to be treated as seperate religions .
GermanConquistador08 11 months ago
@MrTickleparty One more thing: Benjamin Franklin was not an atheist. Thomas Jefferson was a weak believer who did believe in some parts of Christianiy, but WAS ultimately a Deist who relied heavily on Christian teachings without ever saying what they really were. Benjamin Franklin suggested that the Congressional Congress begin each morning with prayer, and he led such prayer. THe Historical facts is that MOST of the founding fathers were Christians. America gets historical amnesia it seems.
GermanConquistador08 11 months ago
@MrTickleparty "When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours" - That would make sense is you could use argues against other Gods that you do with Christianity. Christianity is the most unique religion on earth, you cant argue against the Greek gods and the Judeo-Christian god the same way. You make the issue less complex than it actually is. Good job. And no, atheist means you believe in no Gods. You fail at definitions sir.
GermanConquistador08 11 months ago
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KindlyAtheist 11 months ago