omega co-axial

[tapsarautanen]

This is one of many designs which try to separate the impulse phase from the regulation of the motion of the escape wheel in order to be able to rely less on lubrication on the impulse jewels. Some design, like the Robin derived AP have been tested at very high pace (7+Hz) but the main goal is not  to be faster or more precise, just to have less service.

[leestephenj]

@ISREAL53 Not really mate. Look into the movement more closely it is regarded by many horologists as being revolutionary in terms of horology.

[andzha16]

Hello! Can someone help me? I want to buy a watch but i'm not sure if it is genuine because on the dial it says co-axial but on the back it says quartz. Any ideas? It costs 130$ and it is not a new model.

[jamie151994]

i have a omega chronometer automatic co-axial escapement limited edition can someone tell me the price?

[mik63ward]

george may be a good watchmaker but he only embellished an idea that was designed a couple of HUNDRED years ago by mudge.

[RollaArtis]

@mik63ward Actually you're wrong - an almost identical coaxial escapement was made by Fasoldt in the 1870's. One of these watches is featured in the 1965 book "English and American Watches" -- by George Daniels.

[v5dan]

a very important development in watchmaking history. George Daniels is a genius.

[dano415]

I have never heard of one of these movements failing?

Are they that good?

[elenchus]

@dano415 A friend of mine has had 10+ co axials and never had a problem, but he likes to rotate them out like twice a year so it's difficult to say. He says a lot of people complained about some new coaxial variation on the PO chronograph, but he hasn't had any trouble. His does +2 seconds per day.

[elgalou]

I have the 2220.80 co-axial, beside the design lets face it the cheapest quartz watch can keep a better time. My favor it is the eco-drive from citizen. that's a f**ing revolutionary technology. I have the blue angel for over and caiber 8700s, and they don't loose time not even a second and do not need a battery. if you get one with sapphire crystal and titanium, or even ss and leather , you set for life with a good watch and way less money!!!

[elenchus]

well, the various quartz movements are regulated to within +15 seconds a month, my citizens generally do +7ish seconds a month. But Citizen is the ultimate maker of high end quartz, like the chronomaster, which is guaranteed to within 5 seconds a year.

[assa123assa123]

escapements, materials - this is total crap!

you buy watches if you like watches, if you have a passion for them, if you feel they convey the special understanding of time itself for you (my case). who cares about accuracy? I never wear the same watch more then two days in a row.

and I still have some designs in my head that would fascinate me but manufactures make some silicon shit instead.. and ask a fortune. the golden age of watches has gone long ago..

[fronkenpoop]

That does look very nice indeed. Personally I like the design of the omega watches, particularly the chronograph style. However I haven't bought one because of my dislike for watches that are thick and clunky (>10mm).

[Draqonfly]

that looks bloody nice

[pasxalis1987]

em....pardon guys.the co-axial escapement is better than rolex's mechanisms???

[dogx15]

Rolex mechanisms? "Co-axial" is a type of escapment and not the full movement. Rolex ancient escapments are no different than Seiko's old wind up watches (in theory its the same concept). But, yes co-axial is superior escapment than the "conventional" ones. However, the co-axial was rendered redundant, and from a pragmatic stanpoint, even useless with Patek's introduction of the silicon escape wheel.

[akarpas]

Pardon mate, but my english are not so ''advanced''.Em...ok i got the meaning that the co-axial is a great escapement, but i didnt understand what you said about patek's silicon escape wheel at the end.Can you explain it in simple english???Once again i'am sorry, my english are not so good...

[pasxalis1987]

please do not reply at akarpas but on pasxalis1987.

Best regards

[dogx15]

The co-axial was created to avoid oil in the pallet fork and for less friction. Patek's silicon escape wheel does not require one to oil the jewels of the pallet fork.

By the way, is your language greek?

[dogx15]

To make things worse for the inventor of the co-axial, Dr. Daniels, Seiko introduced a movement that did away with escapments all together! You wind the watch up and it only has one way motion of the wheels (!), no escapment! On top of that its the worlds only mechanical watch with quartz accuracy. It blows away anything from Rolex, Patek, Omega, ect.

[1stab]

If you ask me, the Spring Drive is only a small jump from the Kinetic Drive. Yes, in the Spring Drive, the energy "escapes" the mainspring in only one direction. But both systems involve the use of electricity and are not entirely mechanical. And this for +/- 1second a day. I can get that from an ETA. Cheers.

[glazba]

I'd agree with 1stab regarding springdrive. I find it a laudable achievement, but given the choice would take a mech if I was interested in an heirloom.

I dont think Daniels will be losing much sleep over Silicon escapements or other material improvements. His name is already surely etched as deeply in horology as is possible for an individual in this day & age.

[gmodesike]

awesome!!

[mizzo88]

wow

[Mtechthewise]

nice video, helps me understand the action of the co-axial. Omega should do a better job of promoting the benefits of this invention, even if it's relatively hard to dumb it down to the average consumer comprehension level.