You know what might be fun to try, spin a satalite sphere up on the roof of the top coil, than see if it will accelerate when you induce self oscillition.
I think how to switch the 3 parts (-+-) and I will try connect 2 merged red switch
-(charge)-----------__________+(drive)
-(charge)-----------__________-(drive).
You know if this can be done with a transistors sitching?....you know im newby :). The next stage would be run a pulse motor discharging the CH capacitor.Tnx for share
Lidmotor, Got some supercaps! Soldered a bunch together for: 24 farads / 5V source, same for charge side. It Runs the 1 inch Neoball rotor for hours on the supercaps not sure how long yet. The charge side supercaps get to about 1 volt. That is ok, need bigger coil spike voltages I think. Short the charge side supercaps, and the voltage comes right back to about .5 volt, they refresh themselves! Very rad. I'll put up a video soon
Lidmotor, I hungt a 10farad/2.3V supercap off a bridge rect, with AC leads right across the drive coil, using the 1" Neoball and 3V source. It charged the cap to .44 V in 10 hours. This is the voltage across the bridge alone, plus to minus. Can I put the minus to the minus of the charge batt? Or would that bust the cupercap? Not sure what to do with the minus side of the cap. hmmm
Jack-- On some of the BEMF charging circuits that I have built you could hook up the negative to either the plus or minus of the source and the circuit still ran. Use a smaller cap and time the charge up to see which is better.
That compound wave form looks like a pulse modulation perhaps due to the oscillation of the capacitor and inductors back EMF frequency I was talking about...just a thought.
Lidmotor - What is the voltage setting on the scope, 10v, 100V / div , how big are the spikes in volts? You show start /finish sides on both the coils on the schematic. Does this mean you pile on the winding on one side and then gradually move over? Not sure on the winding technique. Will winding both onto a single spool work?
I tried 3 spools in series thus far, using the 9V batt, neoball, and hall sensor.
Jack- The Radio Shack coils have a little piece of wire sticking out at the "start" and so you don't have to rewind them. Just attach them up tho the circuit. My original Bedini coil used these same two Radio Shack coils of wire just wrapped up together on one coil. I used little nails and epoxy as the iron core. It works fine in a Bedini circuit. As far as the scope info, I must confess that I can't read it. It is very old, complicated, and not user friendly.
zebok3----Yes there is a gain. The amp draw is much less and the charge rate seems better. You are not wasting energy spinning that rotor. But then again you aren't getting any work out the thing either. I was going to put a little fan on the front of the motor to make it do something useful.
is there any advantage to non solid state when charging batteries because the non solid state had more waves and i suppose for batteries, it is different for capacitors
Did you have a chance yet perhaps to check the solid state charging mode with two identical caps to see if the output >= the charge on the source cap? That would be very magical, not to mention useful! Thanks again Lidmotor.
tomcon---Have not done that but don't really need to. The charging is much less than the energy used based on the cap charging that I have already done. This is only capturing a fraction of what goes into it. That is better than not getting any though.
rroge--Actually in this video the stops in pulsing were due to a loose wire. The motor does run very irratically though, you are right, because of the poor bearings and imbalance. It was just something I threw together in a couple hours to try out the principle.
Hey LIdmotor,
Your work is a wealth of information. I'm learning so much from the work you have done. Thank you.
jiffycoil 1 year ago
You know what might be fun to try, spin a satalite sphere up on the roof of the top coil, than see if it will accelerate when you induce self oscillition.
zebok3 2 years ago
I´m searching how to charge capacitors with capacitors and find this super fast metod /watch?v=Q6q77SZlE4Y.
Maybe can improbe with the magnet current amplification of gotoluc /watch?v=wRWwFxNZZxc .
alex681219 2 years ago
I think how to switch the 3 parts (-+-) and I will try connect 2 merged red switch
-(charge)-----------__________+(drive)
-(charge)-----------__________-(drive).
You know if this can be done with a transistors sitching?....you know im newby :). The next stage would be run a pulse motor discharging the CH capacitor.Tnx for share
alex681219 2 years ago
Lidmotor, Got some supercaps! Soldered a bunch together for: 24 farads / 5V source, same for charge side. It Runs the 1 inch Neoball rotor for hours on the supercaps not sure how long yet. The charge side supercaps get to about 1 volt. That is ok, need bigger coil spike voltages I think. Short the charge side supercaps, and the voltage comes right back to about .5 volt, they refresh themselves! Very rad. I'll put up a video soon
Aloha
jackscholze 2 years ago
Jack--Supercaps are great. I have had very good success with them.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
Lidmotor, I hungt a 10farad/2.3V supercap off a bridge rect, with AC leads right across the drive coil, using the 1" Neoball and 3V source. It charged the cap to .44 V in 10 hours. This is the voltage across the bridge alone, plus to minus. Can I put the minus to the minus of the charge batt? Or would that bust the cupercap? Not sure what to do with the minus side of the cap. hmmm
what do yout think?
Aloha
jackscholze 2 years ago
Jack-- On some of the BEMF charging circuits that I have built you could hook up the negative to either the plus or minus of the source and the circuit still ran. Use a smaller cap and time the charge up to see which is better.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
I second that...thanks Lidmotor. Your videos are truly inspirational!
sypha0x 2 years ago
sypha0X---Thanks
Lidmotor 2 years ago
That compound wave form looks like a pulse modulation perhaps due to the oscillation of the capacitor and inductors back EMF frequency I was talking about...just a thought.
sypha0x 2 years ago
sypha0x---Pulse modulation. That makes sense. The oscillator is running but is being pulsed by the spinning magnet perhaps.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
Lidmotor - What is the voltage setting on the scope, 10v, 100V / div , how big are the spikes in volts? You show start /finish sides on both the coils on the schematic. Does this mean you pile on the winding on one side and then gradually move over? Not sure on the winding technique. Will winding both onto a single spool work?
I tried 3 spools in series thus far, using the 9V batt, neoball, and hall sensor.
Caps charge to 7v, that's it.
Thanks a lot and Aloha
jackscholze 2 years ago
Jack- The Radio Shack coils have a little piece of wire sticking out at the "start" and so you don't have to rewind them. Just attach them up tho the circuit. My original Bedini coil used these same two Radio Shack coils of wire just wrapped up together on one coil. I used little nails and epoxy as the iron core. It works fine in a Bedini circuit. As far as the scope info, I must confess that I can't read it. It is very old, complicated, and not user friendly.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
Is there any gain in the solid state charging mode?
zebok3 2 years ago
zebok3----Yes there is a gain. The amp draw is much less and the charge rate seems better. You are not wasting energy spinning that rotor. But then again you aren't getting any work out the thing either. I was going to put a little fan on the front of the motor to make it do something useful.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
is there any advantage to non solid state when charging batteries because the non solid state had more waves and i suppose for batteries, it is different for capacitors
pokerface3699 2 years ago
Did you have a chance yet perhaps to check the solid state charging mode with two identical caps to see if the output >= the charge on the source cap? That would be very magical, not to mention useful! Thanks again Lidmotor.
tomcon1001 2 years ago
tomcon---Have not done that but don't really need to. The charging is much less than the energy used based on the cap charging that I have already done. This is only capturing a fraction of what goes into it. That is better than not getting any though.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
tubemp--Thanks. Some people like to spend their spare time watching TV. I would rather make something fun and share it with a video.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
i think the stop in pulsing is caused buy the rotor being slightly unbalanced.
rroge5 2 years ago
rroge--Actually in this video the stops in pulsing were due to a loose wire. The motor does run very irratically though, you are right, because of the poor bearings and imbalance. It was just something I threw together in a couple hours to try out the principle.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
help, i think i broke a super cap, accidently touched the leads togeather. is it ruined ?.
rroge5 2 years ago
thats wat your supposed to do to discharge, or at least put a winded wire resistor in serial to discharge, but it should be fine
pokerface3699 2 years ago
i somehow feel there was a unspoken discharge current
rroge5 2 years ago
rroge5--- I have done that but breifly, there was no overheatting, and the supercap survived. I think that I was lucky.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
i believe if the stepup the voltage on the backend enough to make a spark--you could feed it in series back to the frontend capacitor.
crob227 2 years ago
crob---Thanks I'll try that. A 555 timer cap pulser circuit would do it.
Lidmotor 2 years ago