Neil Strauss on Direct Openers

[lopatamd]

mode one baby, make it happen

[Pedraocmb]

what about mode one??

[aoeuuiaiui]

@Pedraocmb Mode one is hit & miss... High risk, low probability of success, but easy to run on lots of women in a short time.

[Pedraocmb]

@aoeuuiaiui really??

I've never used mode one so I don't really know how exatly it works..

it looks very simple just give lots of shots until you get one.. but appears to work..

I don't know..

I thoght the confidence was a HVD

[aoeuuiaiui]

@Pedraocmb Yeah that's basically what I said too, you fire a lot of shots and hope one of them hits. The confidence does give you a lot of value, but that alone may not be enough for her to want to stay with you after you told her she's smoking hot and you want to do bad things to her. If she gets uncomfortable and leaves, you have to run off to the next girl. So I don't think it's good for getting that special girl you want.. But by all means try both, see which works!

[gnrcr]

Well, I learned nothing.

[sOsakin1992]

is this clip a part of a movie...? if it is then please tell me, what the name of the movie is and how do i get the rest of it. can anyone anwer me plase. Because i am really trying to improve myself

[Feverdream7777]

this just made me understand why I always had trouble with wanting to approach 8, 9, 10.

I wanted to direct open on them with attraction + my value was lower than there's was. This gave me approach anxiety = not getting laid

Thanks Neil, you rock

[TheBrainsplat]

IM totally worthless and have no value. how do i get a woman?

[ZachRose88]

@TheBrainsplat Buy "Rules of the Game" by Neil Strauss. I promise, you won't regret it.

[miketheused]

@TheBrainsplat omg lmao i seriously cant stop laughing here

[jimmimak]

@TheBrainsplat

You have to realise if you're worthless, so is everyone else. And if someone else is worth their weight in gold, so are you. Ego and self esteem are all human concepts, you just have to believe in yourself, and realise how silly it is that other people think they are valuable while others think they are worthless, when in reality there is no difference in value, it's all about perception and belief and being in the right mindset. Don't fake it, just believe wholeheartedly!

[visionimagify]

I like AFCAdam's natural game and lovesystems. Great for beginners.

[NewIllusionist]

Mystery method it's the beginning so people learn how the game works. So they are given canned material to use so they have things to say. This is called outer game. When you got outer game you know how the method works and how your openers should be done. For example the delivery of the openers and such. Mystery Method is just to get your foot in the door, and guide you on the right path. Dont critisize a guy who can score you mom and gf in the same night...and whos known as one of the best

[alexisnikitin]

Everyone here who keeps complaining about

MM, have not been successful.

MM works like a charm. It's a medium risk - medium reward way to pua.

[susumu07]

MM is crap, even Mystery doesn't use it himself!

He uses natural game like what Zan Perrion, Hypnotica, and Carlos Xuma invented. It's way smoother and doesn't rely on canned lines.

Trust me I used to be a fanatic scripted MM follower, but I realized I was spending more time debating the "naturals" than I was getting chicks!

So I tried out some natural game products and they are 1 million x BETTER than Mystery Method. Vin DiCarlo, Gary Brodsky, and Carlos Xuma are the REAL DEAL, not MM.

[TimeMaster01]

god people have to stop complaining just because they were unsuccessfull.

[dirtydeedsdone]

@susumu07 Fact of the matter is Mystery does use his method, except when he uses it its natural to him.

[susumu07]

@dirtydeedsdone

Well what he uses now isn't the same crap he taught to Neil Strauss and Tyler Durden a decade ago. Fact is, a lot of the original MM material is so awkward and so un-natural for the student, that it's practically unusable in most venues. Indirect game has one HUGE limitation in general, which is you have to keep inventing scenarios and canned lines for every situation.

I just go by what works in real life, natural game gets me a lot more of the girls I WANT than MM ever did.

[milpatel83]

This a great example of when PUA's over analyse things. "Only do X, when Y is true, otherwise do Z". Imagine living a life where you are always thinking..."I need to be this, or do this, before I do that....". Its complete and utter nonsense. Guys, approach her and if you feel comfortable, approach her directly, be sensere and confident.

[susumu07]

@milpatel83

you are so right. Many PUAs, especially the Mystery Method-influenced guys like Neil Strauss, OVERANALYZE things. if you do this, you get tense and nervous over every possible outcome.

EVERY time I used all this mathematical chess-game crap in my seductions, it was HORRIBLE, dates ended in frustration or embarassment.

Guys, learn to simply act like you naturally go up to women and say you just HAD to meed them when you saw them. Don't say they're hot. Let them fill it in.

[ninjarain1022]

What I don't get is this:

How are you gonna know if a girl is attracted to you when you don't know her and vice-versa so DHV is out of question, especially during the day

Its best not to think about such things and just open the girl. If rejected, that bitch can go fuck herself and just find another one

[MrKiljeaden89]

@ninjarain1022 An other good option is to approach your OIWF ( Object i wanna fuck ) by insulting her : HEY ! FATASS ! YEAH IM TALKIN TO YOU MONKEYFACE ! WHERE DID YOU GET THOSE LAUGHABLE CLOTHES OFF? U STOLE EM FROM A HOMELESS GUY??" U see, this is a typicall AAT ( Attention awakening talk) . U made a strong comment about something very important for her, forcing her to make an immediate Reaction ! Think about it .

[dontliethetruth]

rule number one, ninja: there are no bitches, only bad approaches.

[ninjarain1022]

Perhaps at a club, yeah. But I'm sticking with day game. Just approaching a girl on the street is a dhv in itself and I'm not a MM follower.

In club game, theres too much working against you

[brolli4454]

@ninjarain1022 look for IOIs

[ninjarain1022]

Sorry I don't follow MM. Even if you do attract a girl, whether at a club or the street she's not seeing the real you. She only sees a persona. You can rehearse all the routines and peacock until you give people heart attacks but you inner game is still fucked up if you're a misogynist or whatever. Thats what MM doesn't talk address.

Its better to just assume attraction from the beginning.

[travisroot]

If you want a beautiful woman that you randomly met on the street, a direct opener is the highest risk way to get the number, and eventually of course get the girl.

I've found the indirect approach to be extremely useful. Lately, I've been asking girls about my grown out hair. I always use a time constraint and a root. My root is always, "I've asked my girlfriends about this, but I'm not sure if I can believe them because they'd never say anything negative."

works like a charm.

[ninjarain1022]

Highest risk? How is that so? After 5 minutes of talking she'll feel more comfortable.If a beautiful girl is walking down the street, most men are too afraid to approach her face because most of them are comfortable approaching these types of girls at club/bars where these girls have more power by rejecting every single one of those pussy men. Direct game would be a breath of fresh air for some of them as they don't hear these kind of openers often from men

[theProdigy02]

@ninjarain1022 you will know becous as ur dhving your also looking for indicators of intrest from her. these include things such as playing with her hair or grooming her self leaning into u , making playful gestures

[Syncness]

@ninjarain1022 You make her attracted to you, that's the 2nd stage. Opener > Attraction > Comfort > Seduction.

[TheTdot2010]

@ninjarain1022 so once you get rejected she becomes a bitch!?! Hah thats your problem dude

[thangQanime]

@TheTdot2010 No he was spot on, the best thing to do is to just move on and the easiest way to move on is to just say she was being a bitch. 65% they are anyway. No arguing that.

[delizone99]

For example you make eye contact and she smiles, that's when you go direct. Or she sees you with other beautiful women , go direct.

[amazingeddie]

Hey, isn't he the guy who played Ming on Flash Gordon?

[SoCalSocialism]

This is exactly why i never do indirect cuz it presupposes you are lower value to her.

In this world, and forever, the man has always been higher value than the woman..

[xicao1500]

There are different types of "indirect".

There is the one you go to a girl and say: "I like you're shoes!"

And there is the one where you open a set, and you don't give any sign of interest in them, so they have to EARN IT.

It's obvious that the first one does not work and the second one does

[bobevans26025]

So when a girl tells her friends and you that she thinks you're hot, that means she already likes you and you can run a direct opener right? I'm new to this stuff.

[GHOSTakaOzz]

that can be a false indicator of interest depending on how she says it bobevans. If shes overly sexually about saying your hot she probably is fucking with you. It really depends on the context. If shes messing with you. Neg her and continue to DHV. If she's not qualify her

[Jakmehauf]

yea preety much man. But you dont have to use an opener just fun your game on her.

[AntiKillerNY]

A. When she already likes you

B. When your value is higher

C. When you went OUT OF YOUR WAY to meet her (i.e. crossed restaurant)

[justsextv]

Style is so fucking hot.

[rbiro77]

direct is always the best, it shatters ur anxiety in no time: no fudging, no rubbish talking, just straight to the point, that oozes confidence!

[tailgunner2]

Tried it once. Met some woman on a boating trip. Nice summer day, party boat, jetskis, among frields and a group fo girls with them, blah blah blah. Anyway, the conversation with one girl (single) gravitated a little about marriage, so I went for the jugular: I asked her to marry me.

Her answer? A nice, simple "No."

Now, I had to admit; while proving the direct appoarch (Like all of approaches) doesn't work, it DID save the both of us six months of grief in one single instant.

[Jakmehauf]

So basically one rejection means that direct doesnt work?

[tailgunner2]

I ran out of letters, and meant to write " this one time..." as an example.

Also, for me, it's one rejection after another rejection and so forth means that the direct approach doesn't work. Again, it must be the local populace (Meaning where I live) where the women...there must be something wrong with them, it's mind boggling pure and simple.

[Jakmehauf]

I disagree ive made out with girls by walking up to them and telling them to close their eyes. Direct ONLY works if you have james bond body language Lol. Im not tying to be a jack ass but maybe its you and not the venue that you are at.

[tailgunner2]

I hate to say this, but I believe you and I are a case of two rights making a wrong. You say it's me, and maybe you're right. However, I have been blaming myself for the last 15 years, no more. Looking around, I don't see very many happy faces, my co-workers all complain about thier wives, and I hear the same message repeatedly, "Don't get married." In fact, one guy I work with, dated three women over the course of a year and a half, and each one was psyco to the point of physical abuse!

[strachtacular]

If direct doesn't work for you, go indirect. It's not you and it's not the women it's what you're SAYING. Guys like us gotta go with indirect. Take down the bitch shield before you dive in. Not to mention most direct openers all revolve around something like "I just saw you across the room and had to say something lifes too short not to talk to beautiful women blah blah blah" If not used correctly that's a DLV because you're complimenting her to begin with instead ot taking her off the pedastil.

[Kitsune81]

Direct could also be something like: Hey, waddup? I just saw you standing here and I HAD to come over and talk to you! You seem like an interesting girl and I'm wondering if that's true.

And besides, just coming over (and not being drunk) and opening a girl direct is a DHV by itself. Especially during the day. Just because you had a pair of balls to open. Ofcourse you'll be judged instantly and can be rejected instantly, so then you'll come back to the discussion: Direct vs Indirect.

[purehotup]

@rbiro77 yh there all great

[relyanddefy]

@rbiro77 how do u demonstrate that ur not lower value than her though if youve already shown attraction?

[geo10dude]

@relyanddefy Well the whole point of demonstating higher value is to increase a girls attraction in you. Let style said, if she's ALREADY attracted to you, you dont necissarily need to walk up to her and start telling dhv spiked stories, you can move into the comfort stage a little sooner. Also, if you have a higher value than her, she will pick up on it without you even having to actively "demonstrate it" He's talking about opening a 6 or a 7. No need to neg, dhv, etc.

[pirilist]

I think direct openers work if you got confidence and congruence because that shows your masculinity and security (personality) which is so attractive to women. the problem is that if you are not sucessful with women, you ovbiosly are not confident. it is better to start with a opinon operner if you are not a real confident guy. After you dominate you insecurity you will approch any girl with any kind of openers. direct openers will be the best because the process will be faster and easier.

[VideoWatcher923]

I agree, direct does definitely get you attraction just from approaching and being direct. But yes, you have to have a certain level of confidence for it to work, so indirect is most certainly better to newbies with high approach anxiety

[SeitoNick]

lol... try to convince people that one of the Rolling Stones' best writers is a fraud who lies... let alone a good writer in general

[poetavg]

Bullshit.

When you approach a woman using direct, this is already a huge amount of high value.

Rio De Janeiro, Brazil.

[lilvjdude]

Yes, especially in daygame.

[JadenStark]

Direct always works, when your body language and charisma give proof of your self-confidence!

So always keep on working on your "inner game" and on every challenge of your daily life for it's gonna show when your ability to deal with life is on a high level!

[cheesesteakphilly]

I use both direct and in-direct.

I just need to work on my transitioning.

I would love to sit through one (or more) of his conferences or seminars.

[mattflowmofo]

aswell as the above advise go direct if the opinion opener dosent sit right with you beforehand.ive used some canned opinion openers only to have the girls ask me a few times afterward how i got on with my sisters birthday present lol (it wasnt my sister birthday).

[EndStupidity]

Betas learning a bunch of tricks is never gonna make them happy. They might get lucky, but it will always be an uphill battle if they don't fell like an Alpha from the inside out.

You should go check out paulneedzaeducation com for some real insight into the Alpha Male and human sexuality.

[LogickUSA]

Personally I follow Style's teachings aswell as Myster's. But the only thing I disagree with is it all starts with you approaching them, I'd rather them approach me. Finding ways to do that seems more interesting, especially when your standing there and a girl approaches you. Other girls see this and it helps you demonstrate higher value, especially if your riding the rail with a couple hotties. I'd like to sit in on a seminar though, just to learn more.

[StylelifeAcademy]

Thanks for the comments guys and we are glad you enjoy the videos.

[PunkSled]

Really great video. Direct game is not really my thing but this was still enlightening.

[redsox155]

Direct works when you don't care what her reaction to you is.