His prolific writing style is similar to the skillset used by an audacious brain surgeon, who removed sickness from the body, in order to resuscitate life.
It is bloody rubbish. Very few 2nd generation Muslims attend a mosque, they have lost the 3rd generation. It is that fact alone that makes life so unbearable for many Muslims.
If they had a better culture we would adopt it. They prefer our way of life and therefore adopt ours.
Radical Islam simply means orthodox Islam. There is nothing that is perpetrated by so-called "radical" muslims, that the Quran doesn´t approve of. These religious hooligans follow the book and take their calling very seriously. Radical Islam is highly orthodox and therefore synonymous with more Islam, super Islam and so on. There is no reason to make up excuses and refer to "only a few bad apples". The apples are more or less all bad, because they have come off a rotten tree. The fruits of evil.
Can't Mark treat Islamic 'radicalism' as protest movement, reacting against the exploitative imperialism of the West, that has not lost steam, just as the era of European colonialism faded after WII. He is correct when he says, its not racism as even Whites are converting to Islam in droves. I would think, at least at one level, there are open-minded people who do not subscribe to West or particularly America's aggressive role in the world and do sympathize with the protesting Muslims.
That radicalism transcends any kind of normal human interaction. They want to bring about the caliphate, and have stated so explicitly. Whether the West reacts violently towards them, as it has, or not, is irrelevant. When they're attacked, they're "radicalized;" when they're not, they're just as radical. The religion was spread this way long before the "West" had even existed.
I'm all for a civilized dialogue, but let's not muddy the water. Tell things as they are.
This land is my kids land, and was my fathers, mothers, and grandparents land.
Do not mistake preservationists as racist. Every immigrant taken in is a lost life to our fellow Canadians replacing our kids with immigrants, is a shame we will
need a referendum. My grand parents did not fight in the wars to have their land,
jobs,in, and outside of Canada taken by immigrants. over 2 million in the past ten
years, It could be said that we killed 2 million kids before birth to have these immigran
@somedude221 Well from someone who is particularly conservative and also loves Mark Steyn, here's hoping you'll join us sooner rather than later. You're on the right track. : )
It's not Islam that's the problem it's the entrenchment of religion in their culture. Here in the west we're past the old days of governing based on religious principles. When we hear a politician going on about christianity (sarah palin for example) we think of them as crazy (which is for the most part true). When the west was governed by christianity back in the day it was chaos (the witch craze in europe for example). The muslim world is the same thing as the old western christian world.
@sloucher26 Well in China's case the state was the religion in a sense because Mao was deified especially during the Cultural Revolution. The Soviet Union and many of it's satellite states deified Stalin through propaganda. It wasn't so much that they were based on atheism but they changed worship from the man in the sky to worship the man on the podium. We tend not to deify our leaders in the west, and if we like them we do not treat them as a omnipotent being would be treated.
The root of all ignorance is in biased opinions based on intellectual laziness and emotion grandeur. Your claim makes enormous historical generalizations which are quite untrue, of which your example is quite pathetic. Through having a living Christian culture, Europe became what it was. It is through people that societies advance, not through a few renegade intellectuals. BTW, the Byzantine Empire, an extremely religious society, was a superpower until the 12th century.
MARK STEYN IS AMONG SO VERY FEW TRUE HUMAN HEROES IN NOW THE VERY ENDING TIMES OF THE HUMAN CIVILIZATION. BECAUSE, YES, AS MARK SAYS: IT IS SOON ALL OVER. THANK YOU, MARK STEYN, FOR BEING THE HUMAN ART YOU ARE, FOR TELLING THE REVELATIONS ALL THE TIME. WITHOUT HEROES LIKE YOU THOSE WHO ARE HUMANS, WHO DIDN'T CHANGE THEIR HUMANITY WITH NASTY STUPIDITY LOOKING LIKE CRAZY RED & BLACK, ALL SOCIALIZED MUSLIM FASCISTS, LISTEN TO YOU & PREPARE THE DEFENCE!
25:00 Doesn't Mark realise that ALL wealthy industrialized countries have follow that trend? Even American whites have sub-replacement fertility, its only blacks and hispanics that are keeping our birthrate so high. Does he consider everywhere a "welfare state"?
@ddddenysss333 I don't know if that was sarcastic or not. Anyways the whole "welfare state= low birthrate" thing is all in Mark's head. The lowest birthrates in the world are in capitalist Asian and Eastern European countries. Japan's actually using welfare to encourage people to have babies by subsidising childcare.
@ryukXsayu27 if you substract the Arab and African births in Western Europe the rates are at least as low as the Eastern European ones! And they are so low because no woman in her right mind wants to put children in this Society, where she (and her man) have to work for other peoples children first (paying for the Arabs welfare, their kindergardens etc.) and then you may spend the rest that's left for your child! (Of course she has to pay for the kindergarden because she works!!!)
I agree with him on multiculturalism; however, I think Steyn is a bit bias, because he himself is a Zionist and Pro-Israel.
Zionism is behind multiculturalism; take a look at an interview with Paideia organizer, Barbara Spectre, as she admits Jews have an important role to play in multiculturalism in Sweden, and Europe in general.
If we didn't use oil so much and used electric power they wouldn't have much money. Or if we used our own oil resources or made more nuclear power plants.
The only thing I disagreed with is his assertion that there is something fundamentally different about Islam and Christianity. The Christian religion was also spread by conquest. I think the real difference between the two is that Christianity has come into the 21st century while Islam has remained in the 17th.
I think it's a tricky situation because on the one hand religious tolerance allows radicals a smokescreen, and on the other hand, suppression exacerbates the differences and hate.
@Setzer I bet you don't know what you're talking about. I recommend that you read the bible, not as a believer but think that it is a basic part of the history. Besides, didn't you realize that Muslim is quite primitive since they chop hands of a thief (an adult man was chopped from feet to hand? A 6 year old boy's arm was crushed under a wheel of a car? ) wed a child of 5 or six, decapitate head of a person committed crime, stoning,etc? Just watching your TV screen that gives few seconds ?
@Luzcvier I have to assume that you're speaking English as a second language because I can't understand at all what you said, and you mostly likely didn't understand what I said. That said I've read the bible, and it's full of violence and perversion in all its primitive glory.
Religion is primitive in general and Christians in the western world are civil and enlightened in spite of religion not because of it.
@Setzer The Christian religion neither began in conquest nor became an important world religion through conquest. Despite being persecuted within the Roman Empire, it eventually became the dominant religion and was spread through the existing empire. It is true that once established, Christianity often accompanied conquerors, but the point was never to spread Christianity per se. Take the example of India, where Christianity was adopted by only a small minority of Indians, not forced upon all.
@ChopJoplGershw Yes and in India it's still only accepted by a small minority (about 2%). It was originally persecuted within the Roman Empire, but it later became the official religion in the Roman Empire under Constantine. Let's look at the Spaniards who conquered Latin America and forced their Native American slaves to convert to Christianity. You're correct the primary purpose of conquest is never to spread religion; it's for profit. But that doesn't mean they didn't burn heretics.
@Setzer Thanks for the very reasonable reply. I grant you the Spaniards, and not only the Spaniards. However, I do think that you err when you say that religion is primitive in general. Religion is just a belief held in common. It can be primitive and benign, it can be sophisticated and malignant. It's impossible to imagine the European Enlightenment without the Hellenic/Hebraic religion of Christianity. Ideas evolve, including within religions themselves.
@ChopJoplGershw I respectfully disagree about religion being necessary to the European Enlightenment. On the other hand, I think it's quite likely we wouldn't have had the Dark Ages without religion. Enlightenment ideals didn't evolve out of religion, they evolved with religion and I think in spite of it because if you look at the Bible it's full of barbarism. I'd be willing to admit that religion isn't primitive by definition, but as it's based on superstition, it certainly goes hand in hand
@Setzer Your position would seem to have the Enlightenment rising from nowhere. Do you really think the Greek and Hebrew roots of Christianity aren't precursors to Enlightenment rationalism? The Dark Ages was a period when Christendom was under attack from outside, from barbarous tribes in the north and culturally more advanced Mulsims in the southwest and southeast. It would be more accurate to say that Christianity remained a civilizing force during a dark time.
@ChopJoplGershw They aren't precursors to the Enlightenment rationalism. Remember the Church was very involved with stifling scientific thinking (e.g. Galileo). The enlightenment ideals grew out of the natural desire for freedom and controlling one's destiny. It came at least in part with a resentment of religion and the established order. Think about Voltaire, Spinoza etc. People were still using religion to justify slavery in the 1860s while the abolitionist movement was largely secular.
@Setzer There's continuity that you're not recognizing. Some clerics were sympathetic to Galileo, and some weren't. I'm not denying what one might call atavistic tendencies in the Church, but those are as natural as desire for freedom. Within Christianity there was a Jewish emphasis on the value of the individual, and a Greek emphasis on the importance of objective truth. In fact, the abolition movement was heavily religious; slavery was for profit, its justification a post hoc rationalization.
@ChopJoplGershw Likewise our ethics don't come from the Judeo-Christian religion, but they are indeed part of the cultural stew in which the religious tradition is undoubtedly a big component.
@Setzer Our ethics combine Hebraic, Hellenic and other classical influences, as well as some modern insights almost exclusively built on those foundations. If the religious tradition is undoubtedly a big component, I think you need to acknowledge a certain continuity of ideas. Consider how John Locke built his case for tolerance by using the language of Christianity. It would be surprising if roughly 1700 years of Christianity (with its Hebrew and classical roots) didn't shape the Enlightenment.
@Setzer I'll grant you "at least in part a resentment of... the established order" but that doesn't mean that the existing culture didn't have within it the roots of its coming form. That's what it means to evolve. I will also grant that there was a direct influence of classical culture, unfiltered through Christianity. But that was through texts that were preserved and distributed by the universities, which were created and administered by the Church. Religion big in Civil Rights movement too.
@ChopJoplGershw You can't deny that there are passages in the Bible which support slavery, and although there were religious people who used religious rhetoric in the Civil Rights movement that fact remains. Furthermore a lot of the people in the Civil Rights movement were communist, secular, and often agnostic or atheist. The Judeo-Christian tradition indeed colors the societal backdrop in which the evolution takes place, but it doesn't drive it.
@Setzer There's all sorts of stuff in the bible that religious authorities have rejected at some point. Slavery is just formal social status within a secular order. Communism and the modern secular political order come out of Christendom: common roots, common causes, even with divergence in some ways. Communism is very Christian, morally. The Judeo-Christian tradition includes ideas that had an undeniable impact on the evolution of the West. You avoid acknowledging those ideas.
@ChopJoplGershw The fact that they can pick and choose what to accept from the bible means that they have some sort of standard for which parts to accept and which to reject. This standard cannot be based in religion because it's revising the religion. Rationality doesn't come from the Jewish or Christian tradition it comes from the frontal lobe of the brain. The post hoc rationalization here is going back to the bible and finding the parts that fit with today's society and tossing what doesnt
@Setzer Why shouldn't a religion evolve any more than any other authoritative social body? Christianity was conceived as a new covenant over the Old Testament. But even the Jews have evolved their interpretation of their foundational texts. That's all part of religion. Maybe the American Protestant emphasis on the original text clouds your understanding on this point. What's your understanding of the Hellenic influence on Christianity? Do you have any understanding of that?
@ChopJoplGershw Why indeed. Obviously Christianity has evolved in the West. Most people take the creation story and Noah's Ark literally because science has proved these things to be absurdities. Can Christian evolve to the point where Jesus's divinity was not taken literally? I hardly think so. By bringing up Hellenistic Christianity you prove my point. This was an attempt to reconcile Christianity with Greek philosophy.
@Setzer Actually Christianity was Hellenized from the start. It arose in Hellenized Judea. That being the case, I don't know what point of yours it proves.
@ChopJoplGershw But use your imagination and try to tell me that Michelangelo couldn't have done an equally or even greater awe-inspiring work illustrating the billion sun galaxy we live in or the billion galaxy universe we live in.
@ChopJoplGershw Greek philosophy was in this case affecting the evolution of Christianity. Why do you think we have Christmas trees? Decorating using Christmas trees is a pagan ritual that predates Christianity itself, and know just about everyone in America has one during the Christmas season. I'm not sure what you're trying to argue here anymore, but what I was saying is that religion is changed to fit society. Next are you going to tell me that science is a product of Christianity?
@Setzer I haven't departed from my original point, which is that the modern world arose in Europe on the foundation of Christian and classical culture. I don't think it's a very controversial point, and not one that ought to trouble an atheist. It would be much harder to argue that science comes right out of Christianity, but Christendom was a much more favorable soil for the development of science than many other cultures.
@ChopJoplGershw And I'm saying that although religion plays a huge role in our culture and life, it's not the main driving factor of the success that the Western World achieved. The motivation to achieve profits and expand their dominance in the world, as well as new technology developed thanks to science is what made that possible. I'm not trying to deny my roots, do away with religion inspired feats of architecture, classical music and art.
@Setzer I still think you positively resist an exploration of how the Judeo-Hellenic ideas of Christianity made the West what it is. As I said, this should not be a hard thing for an atheist to do, perhaps unless he is so attached to religion in some negative way that he defines himself by his reaction against it.
@ChopJoplGershw I don't agree, it sprang and flourished in PRE christian cultures like greece and rome, christianity was never anything but a temporary enemy of science, and they don't rate very much better than muslims as traditional opponents to rationality. Admitedly the muslims seem to take it a step farther, and for various historical reasons they remain several centuries behind the west. Political correctness gives them the upper hand (for now). science and xtianity are not bedfellows
@hieraxhideo Your opinion doesn't reflect an understanding of European intellectual history. Christian orthodoxy was sometimes at odds with scientific advancement, but the blossoming of scientific culture only ever succeeded in the Christian West, after which it became universal. It had many false starts before this in other cultures, including ancient Greece and the Islamic world. The Hellenic influence is very important in this respect. See Stanley Jaki on this subject.
@kbdkbd99 I think very seriously about it. All religions are fairy tales, man made, and utterly pointless. The enlightenment occurred at least in its inception when science became fashionable and the superstitious became the subject of humour. Religion is highly irrational. It's true that of all relgions islam is the most irrational and fascist, in modern times, but the fact remains that they are all empty fables and of no value.
Fuck multiculturism, i'm an Arab, we are the Best and Phuck the rest....It is our mistake we made Andalucia multicultural, Europe only understands the language of Blood....and we will prove it to europe that we speak it fluently....it is sick to know that Blue eyed Albinos managed to colonise us...
Islams contribution to human development is arguably the greatest in history, an empire that stretched from spain to gates of china, which created the mathematical concepts used today, "algebra" etc, the numbers 123456789, etc are just some of the many contributions to the world from Islam. The west is finished because they failed one basic concept in the battle against spirit over matter they chose matter while islam choose spirit, islam is political, economical, spiritual and is unstoppable.
@abdulidan As for the numbers 123..., they were first used in India. Arab merchants learned them and started to spread them in the Middle East first. But they are not invented by Arabs, and they have nothing at all to do with Islam. Islam must be stopped not because some people do not sympathise with it. It must be stopped becasue wherever it starts to dominate a nation or a country, that nation or country will lose its ability to keep pace with the rest of the world.
@abdulidan > [ "Islams contribution to human development is arguably the greatest in history," ]
Not so much.
You can't really compare translating a few Greek texts and usurping Indian, Assyrian and Persian civilisation, to the contributions made in the secular west since the 17th century. The scientific method, Telescope, Vaccines, transport, communications systems, all kinds of tech and constantly improving knowledge. Human genome, LHC, Hubble. Islam is insignificant in this area.
Can we all agree that there is a difference between Muslims and Muslim governments? I find this sinister nightmare talk of "the Muslims" to be actually really frightening, considering the Muslims I know are among the nicest, most hospitable people I've ever met in my entire life.
Steyn's portrayal of European societies is really a portrayal of stereotypes, as is his description of why USA would be the only 1 place where Muslims could sort of reform themselves.
Plus, his mention of multiculturalism might be relevant regarding UK, but it's worlds apart from what exists in other European countries. So while I agree with some points he makes, he also seems so full of shit and megalomaniac on his "knowledge" of societies.
I agree that Western Civilization IS under threat from Radical Islam. We must all take a stand now and defend freedom of speech, freedom of religion, individual liberty and defend the total emancipation of women. Radical Muslims will take it away from us!
The funny thing is, you really don't have to be conservative to see that islam is a primitive culture that has been static since 700 a.d.. It is clearly not fit for the democratic liberties of the West.
@foamulator I would not say that Islam has been static at all since 700AD, especially since the Islamic Shari'a hadn't really reached its recognizable form until the 9th century after a couple hundred years of jurists defining and working through all the nooks and crannies until you get the modern jurisprudential divisions. Furthermore, one could not speak for the Persian either, as their Shari'a differs. Islam, despite popular opinion, is not a monolithic religion.
@AndrewzDescent LOL. "nooks and crannies" , I like that. Yes, islam definitely has a lot of nooks and crannies! Sharia is the thin end of a wedge of islamic cultural warfare. It should be laughed out of the room. Also, I wouldn't give any odds for anyone who tries to reform islam. He will quickly assume room temperature.
@foamulator I, I,I III, IV, V, VI,. If you don't understand what I just wrote you would be screwed. The modern symbols and even the way we count are arab/ hindu creations, so to say that Islam Is "static" is mistaken. I agree with you that living under sharia law would be intolerable but to paint Islam as a purely barbaric religion is wrong bordering on disengenuous. Yes there are instances where muslims have done great evil but there are points where they have done good, just like the other 2
@20MrBigmac LOL.. OH, I understand the HINDU numerical system. Islam had absolutelely NOTHING TO DO WITH the so-called Arabic numerals. In fact, neither did arabs.
it's interesting watching this now, after defending Mark in an essay a year ago or so, after the whole article debate happened. I'm not really a conservative either, or even share the views he expressed in that article.
If you Google: leaflet circulated by the KluKluxKlan in Mississippi in 1964, you may see parallelisms between paragraph 27 ("Our governmental system") in the leaflet and the content of this video…does this nonsense sound familiar? Clearly the KKK leaflet as well as the video is a biased declaration. How quaint for the KKK to project their own evil socio-political incapacities to other ethnic groups. This video is a useless attempt to sanitize a KKK polluted supremacist philosophy.
One aspect of Steyn's brilliance is his comprehension and open acknowledgment that he doesn't have all the answers. His vision is sufficiently clarified that he can identify the problem and offer potential solutions. But the problem posed by the modern resurrection of Islam is bigger than any one man.
Dear me! Stupidity should be henceforth measured in Americans! They are so stupid that they do not even see that their forces stationed in Germany and Japan are not for protection but for occupation; once the Americans pull their forces out the Germans will dispatch their foul minions, which they have installed their after they deposed the motorway rule to do their bidding; and then Germany and Japan will stop trading with the USA anymore as the Dollar is worthless.
@FireEyedMaidOfWar The US Forces Japan website has the current USFJ strength at a hair over 35,000. How in the Hell is the United States "occupying" Japan, which is a nation of 127 million citizens, with a force that doesn't even make an under-strength corps (and which is mostly Air Force and Marine personal on Okinawa, not even mainland Japan)?
@Halo4Lyf: You are not only all that what I called you before but also a motley fool! First: The USA had installed its minions in Japan after the Japanese surrender, so the rulers of Japan are loyal to their overlords (which is all to more effective since they considered back than the Russians as a thread and now the Chinese, which makes even the USA some sort of an lesser evil); and the military presence allows the USA to observe Japan; so any attempt to regain independence is bound to fail.
@Halo4Lyf: This is how any vassal state system worked; for example only in Germany the Russians had stationed several hundred thousand troops but in all the other Warsaw Pact States they had no forces and if there was a revolt against their minions they pulled in their troops to crush the uprising; which was very easily, having a land border to those countries; the USA has no such possibility in Japan; the price for a Japanese island was more than times larger than it was for whole Mesopotamia.
@Halo4Lyf: Every conqueror works like that, if he does not want to assimilate a conquered country into his own realm; which would cause far greater resistance than setting up a puppet government, which is at least agreeable to the ruling circles; and the failure to do this or the want of it in Bactria is the main reason for the failures there; so far this worked so well that the USA never had to quell an rebellion in Italy, Germany or Japan; though the fear for Communism was here a factor still.
@Halo4Lyf: Besides there are two other factors: Any uprising against these small forces would cause the Invasion of large American armies; just like the Romans did have only 1,000 legionnaires in Gaul, but the Celts there knew that there were six full legions standing at the frontier to Germany; not only protecting the Rhine border but also subduing any hopes for an insurrection; and there is the nuclear weapons menace; which Japan had the experience as a bitter reality.
@Halo4Lyf: Plus: Our American coxcomb seems to forget the enormous advantages of having political and economic hegemony over Germany and Japan; first: These nations act not as independent powers, raising no mighty armies and entering in no wars and alliances against the USA (the Russians are quite keen to part Germany from the USA); second: Their trade and industry are under a great level of American control (just look at the sanctions against Persia or China).
@Halo4Lyf: Though the American cannot hope to receive much auxiliary forces from Japan or Germany, as the people there have little interest of going to war for the American goals and any constraint would unveiled the true nature of the American rule; so the French conquest of Germany under Napoleon was of much greater worth, as he could raise huge numbers of troops from his German vassal states; but still as an American, the least think I would do is demanding the withdrawing of these troops.
@Halo4Lyf: It would be the undoing of the American victory in World War II and the end of the global hegemony, as the governments there would either be supplanted or forced to change their course soon; but as I said: Stupidity should be measured in Americans and you may observe the upcoming changes; though the rise of China will largely occupy your attention; and the perception of the true situation of the American economy will be a rather depressing experience.
@FireEyedMaidOfWar In the future, if you're going to write a thesis, do it via private message. No one wants to read 6 consecutive response comments, not the way YouTube works.
Do you honestly believe that the presence of token American forces (amounting to very little combat strength) in Germany and Japan actually seriously effects the politics of those countries? As if we withdrew 3rd Marine Division from Okinawa, then State Shinto would be reinstituted in Japan proper?
@Halo4Lyf: I shall do no such thing; you did not send me your remark in private and so: Why should I answer you thus? And it is not my fault that there is a 500 character limitation but those of the insidious Plain English Movement! And as I said: Once these countries are freed from American troops, alliances and surveillance they will resume to be independent powers; which does not mean that the Germans will attack Poland and Japan China but still the USA may soon regard its folly...
Writers like him clearly widen the gaps among people then their already is, whats behind all this? our cities are vibrant with people from all walks of life, it takes time to study that form of diversity, people=complex science that everything is evolved from. Hasty generalization is becoming a bad tactic day by day.
If you Google: leaflet circulated by the KKK in Mississippi in 1964, you may see parallelisms between paragraph 27 (Our governmental system) in the leaflet and the content of this video…does this nonsense sound familiar? Clearly the KKK leaflet as well as the video is a biased declaration. How quaint for the KKK to project their own evil socio-political incapacities to other ethnic groups. This video is a useless attempt to sanitize KKK polluted supremacist philosophy.
In guess Mr. Stain, I mean Steyn will soon chant that The Koran is the most dangerous book on earth. What a penetrating and decisive eco directly from Germany of 1932-1939.
@AQUIPARAVIDEOS The Koran is the most dangerous book. The terrorists who perpetrate evil acts like 9/11, 7/7, madrid bombings and beslan , and others in the terrorist network worldwide, claim they are only carrying out what they believe the Koran instructs them to do. After all, they say, the Koran states ‘…then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem Koran (9:5).
@AQUIPARAVIDEOS Also: ‘…I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: Smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them’ (8:12).
Now, many Muslims would claim that the terrorists are incorrectly understanding the Koran—but it is true that in every Muslim-dominated country, Christians are not allowed full freedom of worship. but the Muslim God is not the God of the Bible. Certainly, the Koran is a dangerous book, for millions have been led into a false religion
@leohugh I guess when Joshua was told to kill did he refuse to kill or did he not kill inocent women and children? I guess there is violence in the Bible as well...
@AQUIPARAVIDEOS You are talking about Joshua, i am talking about 21st century. No christian is murdering holding their holy book and saying it sanctions it. Everyday the muslims kill hundreds in the name of allah. They scheme in the madrassas how to kill the non-muslims, how to impose sharia and take over power. Almost all the terror attacks are now carried out by muslims around the world and they shout it is a religiously sanctioned duty. You are trying to shield a religion which is barbaric.
@leohugh As you said: No christian is murdering holding their holy book and saying it sanctions it. Ok, but the proof here says the opposit. Google Wikipedia Yelwa massacre. The Yelwa massacre took place in Yelwa, Nigeria. More than 630 Muslims were killed by Christians. In reality not all christians are killers and not all muslims are terrorists. By the way the Chistians were reading Joshua as the committed the crimes, should we call ALL christianity barbaric? Get the point?
@AQUIPARAVIDEOS The book of Islam 61% of which is about non-Muslims draws the sharpest of distinctions between Muslims and non-believers, lavishing praise on the former while condemning the latter. Far from teaching universal love, the Qur'an incessantly preaches hate. The Qur’an makes it clear that Islam is not about universal brotherhood, but about the brotherhood of believers. Its more dangerous than the mein kampf by adolf hitler. With more poison in verses (3:110); (48:29); (9:29);(8:55).
@hablerz: I AM A JEW...and I really don’t see at all the resemblance to your pseudo-historical analogy to your dandy comment: "The Jews didn't mind the Nazi’s at first, thats what westerners are going to be in their respective countries". I guess we can blame your history teacher for your quaint and charming knowledge jewish history. I guess you are just another white anglo-saxon, living in fear since Mohamed is the most prominent name among newborn babies in Europe. Spead and enjoy your fear.
@AQUIPARAVIDEOS I dont care if your a jew or not , what im saying is (as i hinted) you can draw parallels with the rise of Muslims and the rise of Nazisim in Germany.
They started off as a loud minority mostly laughed at and the rest is history.
I never claimed to be an expert in Jewish history, quant or charming or otherwise.
My guess is your a left wing Jew but hey ho , Shalom.
@hablerz Your parallelisms are drawn upon fear based on the dark European abuses that for so long oppressed the European colonies in the Arabic, and Muslim world. Now that reality is here and present and knocks at the door of white people in the form of sharing political participation. They demand the commitment of the White European to share power with the fearful foreign minorities.
@AQUIPARAVIDEOS No, i fear a backward religious dogma that seeks to subjugate or destroy anyone who doesnt share its 7th century philosophy.
Muslims are involved in around 30 conflicts around the world and are a cause for civil strife in almost every other country they co-inhabit.
The muslims seek to share while they are in the minority , when they have more people they will seek to subjugate, then finally destroy. As they did in the Lebanon.
@hablerz I fear a dogma that destroy who do not share its philosophy. Like the branch Davidians in Waco Texas, a very loud minority. However you verified what I said, terrorists are involved in conflicts in countries that were former colonies of Europe and are still under the influence of economic colonialism by western powers. They want foreign powers out of their countries. Now the last time I checked out Lebanon was dealing well Islamic extremists.
hablarez, Now the last time I checked out Lebanon was dealing well Islamic extremists. The evidence is damning for the Pro-Western hegemony of power. Western powers have intervened for too long in Islamic countries. Check out “Body of Lies (2008)
@AQUIPARAVIDEOS Im not condoning western influence in other countries , im saying whereever Muslims are , theres violence and civil disorder. Lebanon used to be a peaceful christian country , now its a Muslim country so of course its relatively peaceful.
Islamic moderates will always be defeated by the militant extremists because the extremists are prepared to kill.
In the end when muslims rule, they will fight amonst themselves as sunni's and shia's already do.
@hablerz Western intervention has everything to do with it. So did European influence in the process of democratization of the USA, witch-hunts, slavery, etc. In order to experience democracy a process of social depuration from extremism must be experimented by all factions. They are going through the early stages since they where just recently (60' and 70) freeing themselves from absolute European domination. It is just a mater of time until they get it right, but interventionism is not good.
@AQUIPARAVIDEOS The blacks in the 1960s were not look to wipe Mississippi off them map rename it Blackistan. The Arab/Muslim world wants to prolong this conflict by any means until they can completely retake Israël. The proven way to deal with these people is by force and intervention. When left to their own devices the global war of terrorism started.
@AQUIPARAVIDEOS The blacks in the 1960s were not looking to wipe Mississippi off them map rename it Blackistan. The Arab/Muslim world wants to prolong this conflict by any means until they can completely retake Israël. The proven way to deal with these people is by force and intervention. When left to their own devices the global war of terrorism started.
@hablerz no such thing as moderates thats a myth that needs to be dispelled, THERE IS ONE ISLAM! and if you believe any of it YOU ARE A MUSLIM! no difference, they are ALL vile maggots
I speculate what Mr. Superiors’ reaction would be if one of the would be “kings” of England dated a black girl from a “royal” African family? Interesting possibility…Pandoras can of worms!Hhahahaha!
All British Empire Subjects are subjects not citizens, how quaint! Still living in a monarchy in the 21 century, so quaint! The fact that politicians and the armed forces must swear allegiance to the Queen and not actually to the country speaks volumes for this Racist argument of European Superiority. Be happy with your stuff brits, the rest of the world has their own ways and culture! The concept of monarchy is based on nobility intermarriage, very racist! Yall' ready fo' a Black King England?
All British Empire Subjects are subjects not citizens, how quaint! Still living in a monarchy in the 21 century, so quaint! The fact that politicians and the armed forces must swear allegiance to the Queen and not actually to the country speaks volumes for this Racist argument of European Superiority. Be happy with your stuff brits, the rest of the world has their ownways and culture! The concept of monarchy is based on nobilty intermarrige, very racist! Yall' ready fo' a Black King England?
All British Empire Subjects are subjects not citizens, how quaint! Still living in a monarchy in the 21 century, so quaint! The fact that politicians and the armed forces must swear allegiance to the Queen and not actually to the country speaks volumes for this Racist argument of European Superiority. Be happy with your stuff brits, the rest of the world has their ownways and culture! The concept of monarchy is based on nobilty intermarrige, very racist! Yall' ready fo' a Black King...England?
This Dude is A Monarchist that Believes the Queen Rules By Gods Will…hahahahaha! Daahhh! This speaks volumes for this White Wise Guys argument of EUROPEAN SUPERIORITY…
I find Chomsky's arguments very one sides and i can feel something is wrong with them but he is such a high caliber scholar(or at least feels that way)that i personally cant find what is it exactly that is problematic about his arguments and logic,neither do i have the sufficient amount of knowledge on the subjects to be able to refute is well presented points.
I'm from Israel. Islam is evil, you have to fight against Islam. Believe me. Islam is killing everyone who does not a Muslim; you see it in your country. This endless war. Must not lose hope
@MrBasilGanglia Good work with the straw man. When did I ever mention anything about 'uncontrolled fires'? Maybe you should actually read what I've have written instead of adding stuff in to make yourself sound smart. Its English 101...Moron.
@shapo2222 we have right to not want muslims here,you jews invaded palestine where there were muslims for many years,they have the right to be pissed with you.
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Steyn's ignorance of Islam and Moslem domain is not only obvious but dangerous. His basic prejudice is understandable "Muhamads' message to unbelievers ... "line is 100% wrong. If he's doing this as ignorance it's bad enough, but I suspect his agenda is propaganda. For an accurate history of Muhammad and start of Islam see the book by Martin Lings -- google "Muhammad Life Based Earliest Sources
Definitely an interesting talk, a lot of what he says resonates as a sound attitude. I'm afraid a lot of his readers (i.e. The xenophobic, fundamentalist christian, anti-science, pro-war crowd) like him for all the wrong reasons.
Funny, because I'm afraid morons like you would roll your eyes and describe him as being all those things were it Rush Limbaugh making the comments, but since he has an accent and wasn't American-born you assume his opinion is somehow superior and unbiased. News flash, every one of those adjectives would be attributed to him by liberals were they familiar with his beliefs, no matter how well-reasoned his arguments are. He IS anti-illegal immigrant, Christian, anti-abortion....(cont)
... anti-global warming alarmism, and pro-Iraq war. He's hosted the Rush Limbaugh program. He's friends with Ann Coulter. And the only reason you think there's some idiotic "crowd" that misinterprets his message is because no American-born person with these views would be given a podium by the mainstream media to explain himself. These are the same arguments every conservative in American politics espouses, and then is unfoundedly slandered for.
@bwh3200 Because if they were smart, they wouldn't be "liberals" (interesting how "liberals" believe government should control every aspect of individual lives, isn't it?)
Oh.You Israel .You thief their land, you thief the honour of their sisters, you thief the future of the young children of Palestine, you thief their hopes and aspirations, you thief their self respect, you thief their dignity and when they die you thief their organs , if you could you would steal their soul. You cannot take anything that does not belong to you or without the permission of Palestinian . Everything about this abhorrent occupation and occupier makes the whole world against you.
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mARK sTEYN is best understood as a revolting arrangement of organic matter. In fact, a severe competition looms, for my vomit: his regrettable appearance, versus his views and character.
@NamerNews You aren't just an idiot - you are a FUCKING idiot. Perfected in your imbecilic state as the "turd of all time". Congratulations on your self-imposed, self-sustained, perpetual idiotic stature. You exemplify what can happen if people will only resolve themselves to just STOP being smart in any way, shape or form. You should be enshrined for your massive under-achievement and generally vulgar, abysmal ignorance. You are the poster-child for today's "entitlement, bedwetting sect".
fascinating statistics about europe's growing muslim population. It seems France's gamble is this: increase and intensify the socialist program and benefits so that the aging white French population can cash in on those benefits when the Muslim youth begin to absorb French jobs. But if the Muslim youth there throw off the yoke of this socialism those old French invalids are fucked.
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The arrogance that Robert Fisk speaks of is Mark steyn. I have heard him speak about how he think his culture which is the western culture is better/superior. Add to it his paranoia of coloured people in Europe! Total waste!
Objective history shows that Western culture is superior, which is not to say it's perfect. And it's not paranoia against skin color but rejection of inferior and destructive worldviews.
The east may be primitive and violent, but it is not capable of the evil and the atrocities seen in the west, and that is systematic and unproportional destruction.
@akura1984 I'm sorry...but, are you serious? If you are, you should have some examples of these evil atrocities as proof. What exactly is this evil you say the west is guilty of? And the "systematic and unproportional destruction", systematic how; unproportional to what? Back up
His prolific writing style is similar to the skillset used by an audacious brain surgeon, who removed sickness from the body, in order to resuscitate life.
rbutler92go 1 week ago
Read America Alone!, no, better Listen to he audio book, this Steyn guy is as funny as wise.
Schwyndfst 1 month ago
It is bloody rubbish. Very few 2nd generation Muslims attend a mosque, they have lost the 3rd generation. It is that fact alone that makes life so unbearable for many Muslims.
If they had a better culture we would adopt it. They prefer our way of life and therefore adopt ours.
jrwilmott 4 months ago
Bertie Wooster the jihadist. :D
cmurphy2826 4 months ago
Radical Islam simply means orthodox Islam. There is nothing that is perpetrated by so-called "radical" muslims, that the Quran doesn´t approve of. These religious hooligans follow the book and take their calling very seriously. Radical Islam is highly orthodox and therefore synonymous with more Islam, super Islam and so on. There is no reason to make up excuses and refer to "only a few bad apples". The apples are more or less all bad, because they have come off a rotten tree. The fruits of evil.
MetalMan73100 4 months ago 8
Can't Mark treat Islamic 'radicalism' as protest movement, reacting against the exploitative imperialism of the West, that has not lost steam, just as the era of European colonialism faded after WII. He is correct when he says, its not racism as even Whites are converting to Islam in droves. I would think, at least at one level, there are open-minded people who do not subscribe to West or particularly America's aggressive role in the world and do sympathize with the protesting Muslims.
ghulammuhammed3 4 months ago
That radicalism transcends any kind of normal human interaction. They want to bring about the caliphate, and have stated so explicitly. Whether the West reacts violently towards them, as it has, or not, is irrelevant. When they're attacked, they're "radicalized;" when they're not, they're just as radical. The religion was spread this way long before the "West" had even existed.
I'm all for a civilized dialogue, but let's not muddy the water. Tell things as they are.
regelemihai 1 month ago
Nice to see such an intelligent and comprehensive interview of the wonderul Mark Steyn.
sparkomatic 5 months ago
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This land is my kids land, and was my fathers, mothers, and grandparents land.
Do not mistake preservationists as racist. Every immigrant taken in is a lost life to our fellow Canadians replacing our kids with immigrants, is a shame we will
need a referendum. My grand parents did not fight in the wars to have their land,
jobs,in, and outside of Canada taken by immigrants. over 2 million in the past ten
years, It could be said that we killed 2 million kids before birth to have these immigran
A1machining 7 months ago
Mark Steyn is awesome. I'm not even particularly conservative and he's totally awesome.
somedude221 8 months ago 13
@somedude221
Look up Douglas Murray, he's awesome too
boliussa 3 months ago
@somedude221 Well from someone who is particularly conservative and also loves Mark Steyn, here's hoping you'll join us sooner rather than later. You're on the right track. : )
blicious187 1 month ago
I love Allah.
Rewayah 9 months ago
@Rewayah haha yes, I once got labeled as muslim for saying that, even though I'm Christian.
buttflosshaha456 8 months ago
20:56 - a very underestimated facet of modernity that is lost on most people...
MattyJames25 9 months ago
Why the f--- is this turned into an argument ?????
lybo5646b 9 months ago
It's not Islam that's the problem it's the entrenchment of religion in their culture. Here in the west we're past the old days of governing based on religious principles. When we hear a politician going on about christianity (sarah palin for example) we think of them as crazy (which is for the most part true). When the west was governed by christianity back in the day it was chaos (the witch craze in europe for example). The muslim world is the same thing as the old western christian world.
saintsrowbadboy 9 months ago
@saintsrowbadboy Ya just look at the societies that have been based on atheism like the USSR and Communist China they are human rights paradises.
sloucher26 9 months ago 2
@sloucher26 Well in China's case the state was the religion in a sense because Mao was deified especially during the Cultural Revolution. The Soviet Union and many of it's satellite states deified Stalin through propaganda. It wasn't so much that they were based on atheism but they changed worship from the man in the sky to worship the man on the podium. We tend not to deify our leaders in the west, and if we like them we do not treat them as a omnipotent being would be treated.
saintsrowbadboy 9 months ago
@saintsrowbadboy
The root of all ignorance is in biased opinions based on intellectual laziness and emotion grandeur. Your claim makes enormous historical generalizations which are quite untrue, of which your example is quite pathetic. Through having a living Christian culture, Europe became what it was. It is through people that societies advance, not through a few renegade intellectuals. BTW, the Byzantine Empire, an extremely religious society, was a superpower until the 12th century.
zzzak123 9 months ago
MARK STEYN IS AMONG SO VERY FEW TRUE HUMAN HEROES IN NOW THE VERY ENDING TIMES OF THE HUMAN CIVILIZATION. BECAUSE, YES, AS MARK SAYS: IT IS SOON ALL OVER. THANK YOU, MARK STEYN, FOR BEING THE HUMAN ART YOU ARE, FOR TELLING THE REVELATIONS ALL THE TIME. WITHOUT HEROES LIKE YOU THOSE WHO ARE HUMANS, WHO DIDN'T CHANGE THEIR HUMANITY WITH NASTY STUPIDITY LOOKING LIKE CRAZY RED & BLACK, ALL SOCIALIZED MUSLIM FASCISTS, LISTEN TO YOU & PREPARE THE DEFENCE!
THANK YOU, MARK STEYN, A BILLION TIMES!
kiefko 10 months ago 2
25:00 Doesn't Mark realise that ALL wealthy industrialized countries have follow that trend? Even American whites have sub-replacement fertility, its only blacks and hispanics that are keeping our birthrate so high. Does he consider everywhere a "welfare state"?
ryukXsayu27 10 months ago
@ryukXsayu27
True, when you have nothing to do and your country is paying for everything there is only one thing to do... have children, and lots of them.
ddddenysss333 5 months ago
@ddddenysss333 I don't know if that was sarcastic or not. Anyways the whole "welfare state= low birthrate" thing is all in Mark's head. The lowest birthrates in the world are in capitalist Asian and Eastern European countries. Japan's actually using welfare to encourage people to have babies by subsidising childcare.
ryukXsayu27 5 months ago
@ryukXsayu27 if you substract the Arab and African births in Western Europe the rates are at least as low as the Eastern European ones! And they are so low because no woman in her right mind wants to put children in this Society, where she (and her man) have to work for other peoples children first (paying for the Arabs welfare, their kindergardens etc.) and then you may spend the rest that's left for your child! (Of course she has to pay for the kindergarden because she works!!!)
IS8x57IS 1 month ago
Steyn is probably one of the greatest thinkers of our time!
jackzmack 10 months ago 3
Europe will not survive "Multiculturalism"! Watch and learn watch?v=icQBBmPho0U
nemexol 11 months ago
I love the "Deepak Chopra" Koran-rewrite comment around 47:17. Super awesome.
brianonu2b 11 months ago
Mark Steyn is a very well informed no-nonsense man.
olebaj 11 months ago 2
conversation with history? rather conversation with an imperialist neocon. but ok, not all of their dialogue partners are corrupt fascists
zobielamouche1 11 months ago
@zobielamouche1 We eagerly await the appearance of an actual argument from you.
ChopJoplGershw 11 months ago
I agree with him on multiculturalism; however, I think Steyn is a bit bias, because he himself is a Zionist and Pro-Israel.
Zionism is behind multiculturalism; take a look at an interview with Paideia organizer, Barbara Spectre, as she admits Jews have an important role to play in multiculturalism in Sweden, and Europe in general.
Divide and conquer is their strategy.
watch?v=cknaF3TCfI0
belvedere954 11 months ago
If we didn't use oil so much and used electric power they wouldn't have much money. Or if we used our own oil resources or made more nuclear power plants.
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72345378 11 months ago
The only thing I disagreed with is his assertion that there is something fundamentally different about Islam and Christianity. The Christian religion was also spread by conquest. I think the real difference between the two is that Christianity has come into the 21st century while Islam has remained in the 17th.
I think it's a tricky situation because on the one hand religious tolerance allows radicals a smokescreen, and on the other hand, suppression exacerbates the differences and hate.
Setzer 1 year ago
@Setzer I bet you don't know what you're talking about. I recommend that you read the bible, not as a believer but think that it is a basic part of the history. Besides, didn't you realize that Muslim is quite primitive since they chop hands of a thief (an adult man was chopped from feet to hand? A 6 year old boy's arm was crushed under a wheel of a car? ) wed a child of 5 or six, decapitate head of a person committed crime, stoning,etc? Just watching your TV screen that gives few seconds ?
Luzcvier 11 months ago
@Luzcvier I have to assume that you're speaking English as a second language because I can't understand at all what you said, and you mostly likely didn't understand what I said. That said I've read the bible, and it's full of violence and perversion in all its primitive glory.
Religion is primitive in general and Christians in the western world are civil and enlightened in spite of religion not because of it.
Setzer 11 months ago
@Setzer The Christian religion neither began in conquest nor became an important world religion through conquest. Despite being persecuted within the Roman Empire, it eventually became the dominant religion and was spread through the existing empire. It is true that once established, Christianity often accompanied conquerors, but the point was never to spread Christianity per se. Take the example of India, where Christianity was adopted by only a small minority of Indians, not forced upon all.
ChopJoplGershw 11 months ago
@ChopJoplGershw Yes and in India it's still only accepted by a small minority (about 2%). It was originally persecuted within the Roman Empire, but it later became the official religion in the Roman Empire under Constantine. Let's look at the Spaniards who conquered Latin America and forced their Native American slaves to convert to Christianity. You're correct the primary purpose of conquest is never to spread religion; it's for profit. But that doesn't mean they didn't burn heretics.
Setzer 11 months ago
@Setzer Thanks for the very reasonable reply. I grant you the Spaniards, and not only the Spaniards. However, I do think that you err when you say that religion is primitive in general. Religion is just a belief held in common. It can be primitive and benign, it can be sophisticated and malignant. It's impossible to imagine the European Enlightenment without the Hellenic/Hebraic religion of Christianity. Ideas evolve, including within religions themselves.
ChopJoplGershw 11 months ago
@ChopJoplGershw I respectfully disagree about religion being necessary to the European Enlightenment. On the other hand, I think it's quite likely we wouldn't have had the Dark Ages without religion. Enlightenment ideals didn't evolve out of religion, they evolved with religion and I think in spite of it because if you look at the Bible it's full of barbarism. I'd be willing to admit that religion isn't primitive by definition, but as it's based on superstition, it certainly goes hand in hand
Setzer 11 months ago
@Setzer Your position would seem to have the Enlightenment rising from nowhere. Do you really think the Greek and Hebrew roots of Christianity aren't precursors to Enlightenment rationalism? The Dark Ages was a period when Christendom was under attack from outside, from barbarous tribes in the north and culturally more advanced Mulsims in the southwest and southeast. It would be more accurate to say that Christianity remained a civilizing force during a dark time.
ChopJoplGershw 11 months ago
@ChopJoplGershw They aren't precursors to the Enlightenment rationalism. Remember the Church was very involved with stifling scientific thinking (e.g. Galileo). The enlightenment ideals grew out of the natural desire for freedom and controlling one's destiny. It came at least in part with a resentment of religion and the established order. Think about Voltaire, Spinoza etc. People were still using religion to justify slavery in the 1860s while the abolitionist movement was largely secular.
Setzer 11 months ago
@Setzer There's continuity that you're not recognizing. Some clerics were sympathetic to Galileo, and some weren't. I'm not denying what one might call atavistic tendencies in the Church, but those are as natural as desire for freedom. Within Christianity there was a Jewish emphasis on the value of the individual, and a Greek emphasis on the importance of objective truth. In fact, the abolition movement was heavily religious; slavery was for profit, its justification a post hoc rationalization.
ChopJoplGershw 11 months ago
@ChopJoplGershw Likewise our ethics don't come from the Judeo-Christian religion, but they are indeed part of the cultural stew in which the religious tradition is undoubtedly a big component.
Setzer 11 months ago
@Setzer Our ethics combine Hebraic, Hellenic and other classical influences, as well as some modern insights almost exclusively built on those foundations. If the religious tradition is undoubtedly a big component, I think you need to acknowledge a certain continuity of ideas. Consider how John Locke built his case for tolerance by using the language of Christianity. It would be surprising if roughly 1700 years of Christianity (with its Hebrew and classical roots) didn't shape the Enlightenment.
ChopJoplGershw 11 months ago
@Setzer I'll grant you "at least in part a resentment of... the established order" but that doesn't mean that the existing culture didn't have within it the roots of its coming form. That's what it means to evolve. I will also grant that there was a direct influence of classical culture, unfiltered through Christianity. But that was through texts that were preserved and distributed by the universities, which were created and administered by the Church. Religion big in Civil Rights movement too.
ChopJoplGershw 11 months ago
@ChopJoplGershw You can't deny that there are passages in the Bible which support slavery, and although there were religious people who used religious rhetoric in the Civil Rights movement that fact remains. Furthermore a lot of the people in the Civil Rights movement were communist, secular, and often agnostic or atheist. The Judeo-Christian tradition indeed colors the societal backdrop in which the evolution takes place, but it doesn't drive it.
Setzer 11 months ago
@Setzer There's all sorts of stuff in the bible that religious authorities have rejected at some point. Slavery is just formal social status within a secular order. Communism and the modern secular political order come out of Christendom: common roots, common causes, even with divergence in some ways. Communism is very Christian, morally. The Judeo-Christian tradition includes ideas that had an undeniable impact on the evolution of the West. You avoid acknowledging those ideas.
ChopJoplGershw 11 months ago
@ChopJoplGershw The fact that they can pick and choose what to accept from the bible means that they have some sort of standard for which parts to accept and which to reject. This standard cannot be based in religion because it's revising the religion. Rationality doesn't come from the Jewish or Christian tradition it comes from the frontal lobe of the brain. The post hoc rationalization here is going back to the bible and finding the parts that fit with today's society and tossing what doesnt
Setzer 11 months ago
@Setzer Why shouldn't a religion evolve any more than any other authoritative social body? Christianity was conceived as a new covenant over the Old Testament. But even the Jews have evolved their interpretation of their foundational texts. That's all part of religion. Maybe the American Protestant emphasis on the original text clouds your understanding on this point. What's your understanding of the Hellenic influence on Christianity? Do you have any understanding of that?
ChopJoplGershw 11 months ago
@ChopJoplGershw Why indeed. Obviously Christianity has evolved in the West. Most people take the creation story and Noah's Ark literally because science has proved these things to be absurdities. Can Christian evolve to the point where Jesus's divinity was not taken literally? I hardly think so. By bringing up Hellenistic Christianity you prove my point. This was an attempt to reconcile Christianity with Greek philosophy.
Setzer 11 months ago
@Setzer Actually Christianity was Hellenized from the start. It arose in Hellenized Judea. That being the case, I don't know what point of yours it proves.
ChopJoplGershw 11 months ago
@ChopJoplGershw But use your imagination and try to tell me that Michelangelo couldn't have done an equally or even greater awe-inspiring work illustrating the billion sun galaxy we live in or the billion galaxy universe we live in.
Setzer 11 months ago
@Setzer I think you miss the point of the art if you extract humanity from the frame, as glorious as the heavenly bodies may be.
ChopJoplGershw 11 months ago
@ChopJoplGershw Greek philosophy was in this case affecting the evolution of Christianity. Why do you think we have Christmas trees? Decorating using Christmas trees is a pagan ritual that predates Christianity itself, and know just about everyone in America has one during the Christmas season. I'm not sure what you're trying to argue here anymore, but what I was saying is that religion is changed to fit society. Next are you going to tell me that science is a product of Christianity?
Setzer 11 months ago
@Setzer I haven't departed from my original point, which is that the modern world arose in Europe on the foundation of Christian and classical culture. I don't think it's a very controversial point, and not one that ought to trouble an atheist. It would be much harder to argue that science comes right out of Christianity, but Christendom was a much more favorable soil for the development of science than many other cultures.
ChopJoplGershw 11 months ago
@ChopJoplGershw And I'm saying that although religion plays a huge role in our culture and life, it's not the main driving factor of the success that the Western World achieved. The motivation to achieve profits and expand their dominance in the world, as well as new technology developed thanks to science is what made that possible. I'm not trying to deny my roots, do away with religion inspired feats of architecture, classical music and art.
Setzer 11 months ago
@Setzer I still think you positively resist an exploration of how the Judeo-Hellenic ideas of Christianity made the West what it is. As I said, this should not be a hard thing for an atheist to do, perhaps unless he is so attached to religion in some negative way that he defines himself by his reaction against it.
ChopJoplGershw 11 months ago
@ChopJoplGershw I don't agree, it sprang and flourished in PRE christian cultures like greece and rome, christianity was never anything but a temporary enemy of science, and they don't rate very much better than muslims as traditional opponents to rationality. Admitedly the muslims seem to take it a step farther, and for various historical reasons they remain several centuries behind the west. Political correctness gives them the upper hand (for now). science and xtianity are not bedfellows
hieraxhideo 10 months ago
@hieraxhideo Your opinion doesn't reflect an understanding of European intellectual history. Christian orthodoxy was sometimes at odds with scientific advancement, but the blossoming of scientific culture only ever succeeded in the Christian West, after which it became universal. It had many false starts before this in other cultures, including ancient Greece and the Islamic world. The Hellenic influence is very important in this respect. See Stanley Jaki on this subject.
ChopJoplGershw 9 months ago
@hieraxhideo you are being far too simplistic by saying "science and christianity are not bedfellows".
All religions evolve and change. Sometimes they tolerate independent thought and sometimes they do not.
You need to think far more seriously about the intersection of culture, religion and science.
The statement you have made offers no value in examining how the scientific enlightenment occured.
kbdkbd99 8 months ago
@kbdkbd99 I think very seriously about it. All religions are fairy tales, man made, and utterly pointless. The enlightenment occurred at least in its inception when science became fashionable and the superstitious became the subject of humour. Religion is highly irrational. It's true that of all relgions islam is the most irrational and fascist, in modern times, but the fact remains that they are all empty fables and of no value.
hieraxhideo 7 months ago
Fuck multiculturism, i'm an Arab, we are the Best and Phuck the rest....It is our mistake we made Andalucia multicultural, Europe only understands the language of Blood....and we will prove it to europe that we speak it fluently....it is sick to know that Blue eyed Albinos managed to colonise us...
sam4121 1 year ago
@sam4121 Islamic culture used to be the best in many respects, but it's been a long time since you could make that claim without provoking laughter.
ChopJoplGershw 11 months ago
Islams contribution to human development is arguably the greatest in history, an empire that stretched from spain to gates of china, which created the mathematical concepts used today, "algebra" etc, the numbers 123456789, etc are just some of the many contributions to the world from Islam. The west is finished because they failed one basic concept in the battle against spirit over matter they chose matter while islam choose spirit, islam is political, economical, spiritual and is unstoppable.
abdulidan 1 year ago
@abdulidan As for the numbers 123..., they were first used in India. Arab merchants learned them and started to spread them in the Middle East first. But they are not invented by Arabs, and they have nothing at all to do with Islam. Islam must be stopped not because some people do not sympathise with it. It must be stopped becasue wherever it starts to dominate a nation or a country, that nation or country will lose its ability to keep pace with the rest of the world.
borzix 1 year ago
@abdulidan
Islam is a disease and will one day be purged from the west
VigisKane 1 year ago
@abdulidan > [ "Islams contribution to human development is arguably the greatest in history," ]
Not so much.
You can't really compare translating a few Greek texts and usurping Indian, Assyrian and Persian civilisation, to the contributions made in the secular west since the 17th century. The scientific method, Telescope, Vaccines, transport, communications systems, all kinds of tech and constantly improving knowledge. Human genome, LHC, Hubble. Islam is insignificant in this area.
6Untitled9 1 year ago
Can we all agree that there is a difference between Muslims and Muslim governments? I find this sinister nightmare talk of "the Muslims" to be actually really frightening, considering the Muslims I know are among the nicest, most hospitable people I've ever met in my entire life.
F33bs 1 year ago
Steyn's portrayal of European societies is really a portrayal of stereotypes, as is his description of why USA would be the only 1 place where Muslims could sort of reform themselves.
Plus, his mention of multiculturalism might be relevant regarding UK, but it's worlds apart from what exists in other European countries. So while I agree with some points he makes, he also seems so full of shit and megalomaniac on his "knowledge" of societies.
nickst0ne 1 year ago
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Ratan1982 1 year ago
I agree that Western Civilization IS under threat from Radical Islam. We must all take a stand now and defend freedom of speech, freedom of religion, individual liberty and defend the total emancipation of women. Radical Muslims will take it away from us!
urenag1 1 year ago
The funny thing is, you really don't have to be conservative to see that islam is a primitive culture that has been static since 700 a.d.. It is clearly not fit for the democratic liberties of the West.
foamulator 1 year ago 70
@foamulator I would not say that Islam has been static at all since 700AD, especially since the Islamic Shari'a hadn't really reached its recognizable form until the 9th century after a couple hundred years of jurists defining and working through all the nooks and crannies until you get the modern jurisprudential divisions. Furthermore, one could not speak for the Persian either, as their Shari'a differs. Islam, despite popular opinion, is not a monolithic religion.
AndrewzDescent 10 months ago
@AndrewzDescent LOL. "nooks and crannies" , I like that. Yes, islam definitely has a lot of nooks and crannies! Sharia is the thin end of a wedge of islamic cultural warfare. It should be laughed out of the room. Also, I wouldn't give any odds for anyone who tries to reform islam. He will quickly assume room temperature.
foamulator 10 months ago
@AndrewzDescent Good point. Unfortunately, most people are too bigoted to understand that.
puregold 9 months ago
@foamulator Is Christianity any different to you?
thezimboman 6 months ago
@foamulator I, I,I III, IV, V, VI,. If you don't understand what I just wrote you would be screwed. The modern symbols and even the way we count are arab/ hindu creations, so to say that Islam Is "static" is mistaken. I agree with you that living under sharia law would be intolerable but to paint Islam as a purely barbaric religion is wrong bordering on disengenuous. Yes there are instances where muslims have done great evil but there are points where they have done good, just like the other 2
20MrBigmac 5 months ago
@20MrBigmac LOL.. OH, I understand the HINDU numerical system. Islam had absolutelely NOTHING TO DO WITH the so-called Arabic numerals. In fact, neither did arabs.
foamulator 5 months ago
@foamulator monothesitic religions. Yes we can agree to fight the influence of Islam, just give it credit where it is due
20MrBigmac 5 months ago
@20MrBigmac I'd love to hear it. Please list the many contributions that islam has made to the civilized world.
foamulator 5 months ago
it's interesting watching this now, after defending Mark in an essay a year ago or so, after the whole article debate happened. I'm not really a conservative either, or even share the views he expressed in that article.
redryan20000 1 year ago
If you Google: leaflet circulated by the KluKluxKlan in Mississippi in 1964, you may see parallelisms between paragraph 27 ("Our governmental system") in the leaflet and the content of this video…does this nonsense sound familiar? Clearly the KKK leaflet as well as the video is a biased declaration. How quaint for the KKK to project their own evil socio-political incapacities to other ethnic groups. This video is a useless attempt to sanitize a KKK polluted supremacist philosophy.
AQUIPARAVIDEOS 1 year ago
This video is a useless attempt to sanitize and resurect a racial polluted supremacist philosophy.
AQUIPARAVIDEOS 1 year ago
One aspect of Steyn's brilliance is his comprehension and open acknowledgment that he doesn't have all the answers. His vision is sufficiently clarified that he can identify the problem and offer potential solutions. But the problem posed by the modern resurrection of Islam is bigger than any one man.
truculantmuse 1 year ago 3
Dear me! Stupidity should be henceforth measured in Americans! They are so stupid that they do not even see that their forces stationed in Germany and Japan are not for protection but for occupation; once the Americans pull their forces out the Germans will dispatch their foul minions, which they have installed their after they deposed the motorway rule to do their bidding; and then Germany and Japan will stop trading with the USA anymore as the Dollar is worthless.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 1 year ago
@FireEyedMaidOfWar The US Forces Japan website has the current USFJ strength at a hair over 35,000. How in the Hell is the United States "occupying" Japan, which is a nation of 127 million citizens, with a force that doesn't even make an under-strength corps (and which is mostly Air Force and Marine personal on Okinawa, not even mainland Japan)?
Halo4Lyf 1 year ago
@Halo4Lyf: You are not only all that what I called you before but also a motley fool! First: The USA had installed its minions in Japan after the Japanese surrender, so the rulers of Japan are loyal to their overlords (which is all to more effective since they considered back than the Russians as a thread and now the Chinese, which makes even the USA some sort of an lesser evil); and the military presence allows the USA to observe Japan; so any attempt to regain independence is bound to fail.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 1 year ago
@Halo4Lyf: This is how any vassal state system worked; for example only in Germany the Russians had stationed several hundred thousand troops but in all the other Warsaw Pact States they had no forces and if there was a revolt against their minions they pulled in their troops to crush the uprising; which was very easily, having a land border to those countries; the USA has no such possibility in Japan; the price for a Japanese island was more than times larger than it was for whole Mesopotamia.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 1 year ago
@Halo4Lyf: Every conqueror works like that, if he does not want to assimilate a conquered country into his own realm; which would cause far greater resistance than setting up a puppet government, which is at least agreeable to the ruling circles; and the failure to do this or the want of it in Bactria is the main reason for the failures there; so far this worked so well that the USA never had to quell an rebellion in Italy, Germany or Japan; though the fear for Communism was here a factor still.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 1 year ago
@Halo4Lyf: Besides there are two other factors: Any uprising against these small forces would cause the Invasion of large American armies; just like the Romans did have only 1,000 legionnaires in Gaul, but the Celts there knew that there were six full legions standing at the frontier to Germany; not only protecting the Rhine border but also subduing any hopes for an insurrection; and there is the nuclear weapons menace; which Japan had the experience as a bitter reality.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 1 year ago
@Halo4Lyf: Plus: Our American coxcomb seems to forget the enormous advantages of having political and economic hegemony over Germany and Japan; first: These nations act not as independent powers, raising no mighty armies and entering in no wars and alliances against the USA (the Russians are quite keen to part Germany from the USA); second: Their trade and industry are under a great level of American control (just look at the sanctions against Persia or China).
FireEyedMaidOfWar 1 year ago
@Halo4Lyf: Though the American cannot hope to receive much auxiliary forces from Japan or Germany, as the people there have little interest of going to war for the American goals and any constraint would unveiled the true nature of the American rule; so the French conquest of Germany under Napoleon was of much greater worth, as he could raise huge numbers of troops from his German vassal states; but still as an American, the least think I would do is demanding the withdrawing of these troops.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 1 year ago
@Halo4Lyf: It would be the undoing of the American victory in World War II and the end of the global hegemony, as the governments there would either be supplanted or forced to change their course soon; but as I said: Stupidity should be measured in Americans and you may observe the upcoming changes; though the rise of China will largely occupy your attention; and the perception of the true situation of the American economy will be a rather depressing experience.
FireEyedMaidOfWar 1 year ago
@FireEyedMaidOfWar In the future, if you're going to write a thesis, do it via private message. No one wants to read 6 consecutive response comments, not the way YouTube works.
Do you honestly believe that the presence of token American forces (amounting to very little combat strength) in Germany and Japan actually seriously effects the politics of those countries? As if we withdrew 3rd Marine Division from Okinawa, then State Shinto would be reinstituted in Japan proper?
Halo4Lyf 1 year ago
@Halo4Lyf: I shall do no such thing; you did not send me your remark in private and so: Why should I answer you thus? And it is not my fault that there is a 500 character limitation but those of the insidious Plain English Movement! And as I said: Once these countries are freed from American troops, alliances and surveillance they will resume to be independent powers; which does not mean that the Germans will attack Poland and Japan China but still the USA may soon regard its folly...
FireEyedMaidOfWar 1 year ago
Writers like him clearly widen the gaps among people then their already is, whats behind all this? our cities are vibrant with people from all walks of life, it takes time to study that form of diversity, people=complex science that everything is evolved from. Hasty generalization is becoming a bad tactic day by day.
Hinaisthebest 1 year ago
If you Google: leaflet circulated by the KKK in Mississippi in 1964, you may see parallelisms between paragraph 27 (Our governmental system) in the leaflet and the content of this video…does this nonsense sound familiar? Clearly the KKK leaflet as well as the video is a biased declaration. How quaint for the KKK to project their own evil socio-political incapacities to other ethnic groups. This video is a useless attempt to sanitize KKK polluted supremacist philosophy.
AQUIPARAVIDEOS 1 year ago
Garageband music here
TheTravisChannel 1 year ago
In guess Mr. Stain, I mean Steyn will soon chant that The Koran is the most dangerous book on earth. What a penetrating and decisive eco directly from Germany of 1932-1939.
AQUIPARAVIDEOS 1 year ago
@AQUIPARAVIDEOS The Koran is the most dangerous book. The terrorists who perpetrate evil acts like 9/11, 7/7, madrid bombings and beslan , and others in the terrorist network worldwide, claim they are only carrying out what they believe the Koran instructs them to do. After all, they say, the Koran states ‘…then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem Koran (9:5).
leohugh 1 year ago
@AQUIPARAVIDEOS Also: ‘…I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: Smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them’ (8:12).
Now, many Muslims would claim that the terrorists are incorrectly understanding the Koran—but it is true that in every Muslim-dominated country, Christians are not allowed full freedom of worship. but the Muslim God is not the God of the Bible. Certainly, the Koran is a dangerous book, for millions have been led into a false religion
leohugh 1 year ago
@leohugh I guess when Joshua was told to kill did he refuse to kill or did he not kill inocent women and children? I guess there is violence in the Bible as well...
AQUIPARAVIDEOS 1 year ago
@AQUIPARAVIDEOS You are talking about Joshua, i am talking about 21st century. No christian is murdering holding their holy book and saying it sanctions it. Everyday the muslims kill hundreds in the name of allah. They scheme in the madrassas how to kill the non-muslims, how to impose sharia and take over power. Almost all the terror attacks are now carried out by muslims around the world and they shout it is a religiously sanctioned duty. You are trying to shield a religion which is barbaric.
leohugh 1 year ago
@leohugh As you said: No christian is murdering holding their holy book and saying it sanctions it. Ok, but the proof here says the opposit. Google Wikipedia Yelwa massacre. The Yelwa massacre took place in Yelwa, Nigeria. More than 630 Muslims were killed by Christians. In reality not all christians are killers and not all muslims are terrorists. By the way the Chistians were reading Joshua as the committed the crimes, should we call ALL christianity barbaric? Get the point?
AQUIPARAVIDEOS 1 year ago
@AQUIPARAVIDEOS The book of Islam 61% of which is about non-Muslims draws the sharpest of distinctions between Muslims and non-believers, lavishing praise on the former while condemning the latter. Far from teaching universal love, the Qur'an incessantly preaches hate. The Qur’an makes it clear that Islam is not about universal brotherhood, but about the brotherhood of believers. Its more dangerous than the mein kampf by adolf hitler. With more poison in verses (3:110); (48:29); (9:29);(8:55).
leohugh 1 year ago
@AQUIPARAVIDEOS The jews didn't mind the Nazi's at first , thats what westerners are going to be in their respective countries.
hablerz 1 year ago
@hablerz: I AM A JEW...and I really don’t see at all the resemblance to your pseudo-historical analogy to your dandy comment: "The Jews didn't mind the Nazi’s at first, thats what westerners are going to be in their respective countries". I guess we can blame your history teacher for your quaint and charming knowledge jewish history. I guess you are just another white anglo-saxon, living in fear since Mohamed is the most prominent name among newborn babies in Europe. Spead and enjoy your fear.
AQUIPARAVIDEOS 1 year ago
@AQUIPARAVIDEOS I dont care if your a jew or not , what im saying is (as i hinted) you can draw parallels with the rise of Muslims and the rise of Nazisim in Germany.
They started off as a loud minority mostly laughed at and the rest is history.
I never claimed to be an expert in Jewish history, quant or charming or otherwise.
My guess is your a left wing Jew but hey ho , Shalom.
hablerz 1 year ago
@hablerz Your parallelisms are drawn upon fear based on the dark European abuses that for so long oppressed the European colonies in the Arabic, and Muslim world. Now that reality is here and present and knocks at the door of white people in the form of sharing political participation. They demand the commitment of the White European to share power with the fearful foreign minorities.
AQUIPARAVIDEOS 1 year ago
@AQUIPARAVIDEOS No, i fear a backward religious dogma that seeks to subjugate or destroy anyone who doesnt share its 7th century philosophy.
Muslims are involved in around 30 conflicts around the world and are a cause for civil strife in almost every other country they co-inhabit.
The muslims seek to share while they are in the minority , when they have more people they will seek to subjugate, then finally destroy. As they did in the Lebanon.
The evidence is damning.
hablerz 1 year ago
@hablerz I fear a dogma that destroy who do not share its philosophy. Like the branch Davidians in Waco Texas, a very loud minority. However you verified what I said, terrorists are involved in conflicts in countries that were former colonies of Europe and are still under the influence of economic colonialism by western powers. They want foreign powers out of their countries. Now the last time I checked out Lebanon was dealing well Islamic extremists.
AQUIPARAVIDEOS 1 year ago
hablarez, Now the last time I checked out Lebanon was dealing well Islamic extremists. The evidence is damning for the Pro-Western hegemony of power. Western powers have intervened for too long in Islamic countries. Check out “Body of Lies (2008)
AQUIPARAVIDEOS 1 year ago
@AQUIPARAVIDEOS Im not condoning western influence in other countries , im saying whereever Muslims are , theres violence and civil disorder. Lebanon used to be a peaceful christian country , now its a Muslim country so of course its relatively peaceful.
Islamic moderates will always be defeated by the militant extremists because the extremists are prepared to kill.
In the end when muslims rule, they will fight amonst themselves as sunni's and shia's already do.
hablerz 1 year ago 28
@hablerz Western intervention has everything to do with it. So did European influence in the process of democratization of the USA, witch-hunts, slavery, etc. In order to experience democracy a process of social depuration from extremism must be experimented by all factions. They are going through the early stages since they where just recently (60' and 70) freeing themselves from absolute European domination. It is just a mater of time until they get it right, but interventionism is not good.
AQUIPARAVIDEOS 1 year ago
@AQUIPARAVIDEOS The blacks in the 1960s were not look to wipe Mississippi off them map rename it Blackistan. The Arab/Muslim world wants to prolong this conflict by any means until they can completely retake Israël. The proven way to deal with these people is by force and intervention. When left to their own devices the global war of terrorism started.
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@AQUIPARAVIDEOS The blacks in the 1960s were not looking to wipe Mississippi off them map rename it Blackistan. The Arab/Muslim world wants to prolong this conflict by any means until they can completely retake Israël. The proven way to deal with these people is by force and intervention. When left to their own devices the global war of terrorism started.
xlunax86 1 year ago
@hablerz
- You are so right, my friend. One need only look to a country like Thailand, to see the proof of this poisionous ideology.
foamulator 1 year ago 3
@hablerz no such thing as moderates thats a myth that needs to be dispelled, THERE IS ONE ISLAM! and if you believe any of it YOU ARE A MUSLIM! no difference, they are ALL vile maggots
akuaaron 7 months ago 2
I speculate what Mr. Superiors’ reaction would be if one of the would be “kings” of England dated a black girl from a “royal” African family? Interesting possibility…Pandoras can of worms!Hhahahaha!
AQUIPARAVIDEOS 1 year ago
All British Empire Subjects are subjects not citizens, how quaint! Still living in a monarchy in the 21 century, so quaint! The fact that politicians and the armed forces must swear allegiance to the Queen and not actually to the country speaks volumes for this Racist argument of European Superiority. Be happy with your stuff brits, the rest of the world has their own ways and culture! The concept of monarchy is based on nobility intermarriage, very racist! Yall' ready fo' a Black King England?
AQUIPARAVIDEOS 1 year ago
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All British Empire Subjects are subjects not citizens, how quaint! Still living in a monarchy in the 21 century, so quaint! The fact that politicians and the armed forces must swear allegiance to the Queen and not actually to the country speaks volumes for this Racist argument of European Superiority. Be happy with your stuff brits, the rest of the world has their ownways and culture! The concept of monarchy is based on nobilty intermarrige, very racist! Yall' ready fo' a Black King England?
AQUIPARAVIDEOS 1 year ago
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All British Empire Subjects are subjects not citizens, how quaint! Still living in a monarchy in the 21 century, so quaint! The fact that politicians and the armed forces must swear allegiance to the Queen and not actually to the country speaks volumes for this Racist argument of European Superiority. Be happy with your stuff brits, the rest of the world has their ownways and culture! The concept of monarchy is based on nobilty intermarrige, very racist! Yall' ready fo' a Black King...England?
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AQUIPARAVIDEOS 1 year ago
This Dude is A Monarchist that Believes the Queen Rules By Gods Will…hahahahaha! Daahhh! This speaks volumes for this White Wise Guys argument of EUROPEAN SUPERIORITY…
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AQUIPARAVIDEOS 1 year ago
Mark Steyn is a limey piece of shit.
loonmaniac 1 year ago
Id like to see Mark debate with Chomsky.
I find Chomsky's arguments very one sides and i can feel something is wrong with them but he is such a high caliber scholar(or at least feels that way)that i personally cant find what is it exactly that is problematic about his arguments and logic,neither do i have the sufficient amount of knowledge on the subjects to be able to refute is well presented points.
dzhibrish 1 year ago
I'm from Israel. Islam is evil, you have to fight against Islam. Believe me. Islam is killing everyone who does not a Muslim; you see it in your country. This endless war. Must not lose hope
shapo2222 1 year ago 30
@shapo2222 You can't put out a fire with fire
elfornse 1 year ago
@elfornse You are wrong. You make a controlled burn to keep from feeding the uncontrolled fire. It's fire fighting 101...moron.
MrBasilGanglia 1 year ago
@MrBasilGanglia Good work with the straw man. When did I ever mention anything about 'uncontrolled fires'? Maybe you should actually read what I've have written instead of adding stuff in to make yourself sound smart. Its English 101...Moron.
elfornse 1 year ago
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@elfornse You wrote
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@shapo2222 You can't put out a fire with fire
And you are incorrect sir.
MrBasilGanglia 1 year ago
@shapo2222 we have right to not want muslims here,you jews invaded palestine where there were muslims for many years,they have the right to be pissed with you.
hilletehnoob 1 year ago
I think this guy is Jewish, he has a typical Jewish first name and last name.
akura1984 1 year ago
@akura1984
"the last Jewish female in my line was one of my paternal great-grandmothers"
Thats his quote.
He is a baptised christian.
dzhibrish 1 year ago
i could listen to mark all day!
shame i have exams to revise for :-(
burtrumbean 1 year ago 4
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I don't think I´ve ever seen somebody ooze with such elitism before.
Dreadwins 1 year ago
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I don't think I´ve ever seen somebody ooze with such elitism before.
Dreadwins 1 year ago
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I don't think I´ve ever seen somebody ooze with such elitism before.
Dreadwins 1 year ago
I don't think I´ve ever seen somebody ooze with such elitism before.
Dreadwins 1 year ago
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Steyn's ignorance of Islam and Moslem domain is not only obvious but dangerous. His basic prejudice is understandable "Muhamads' message to unbelievers ... "line is 100% wrong. If he's doing this as ignorance it's bad enough, but I suspect his agenda is propaganda. For an accurate history of Muhammad and start of Islam see the book by Martin Lings -- google "Muhammad Life Based Earliest Sources
rcywho 1 year ago
Read America Alone. Scary.
We are dead.
SturmKorps 1 year ago 3
Definitely an interesting talk, a lot of what he says resonates as a sound attitude. I'm afraid a lot of his readers (i.e. The xenophobic, fundamentalist christian, anti-science, pro-war crowd) like him for all the wrong reasons.
HiAdrian 1 year ago
@HiAdrian
Funny, because I'm afraid morons like you would roll your eyes and describe him as being all those things were it Rush Limbaugh making the comments, but since he has an accent and wasn't American-born you assume his opinion is somehow superior and unbiased. News flash, every one of those adjectives would be attributed to him by liberals were they familiar with his beliefs, no matter how well-reasoned his arguments are. He IS anti-illegal immigrant, Christian, anti-abortion....(cont)
tjagolf33 1 year ago 3
@HiAdrian
... anti-global warming alarmism, and pro-Iraq war. He's hosted the Rush Limbaugh program. He's friends with Ann Coulter. And the only reason you think there's some idiotic "crowd" that misinterprets his message is because no American-born person with these views would be given a podium by the mainstream media to explain himself. These are the same arguments every conservative in American politics espouses, and then is unfoundedly slandered for.
tjagolf33 1 year ago 3
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google Doe's Account, mindblowing.
Kingkalty 1 year ago
Why can't liberals be that smart?
bwh3200 1 year ago 4
@bwh3200 Because if they were smart, they wouldn't be "liberals" (interesting how "liberals" believe government should control every aspect of individual lives, isn't it?)
radishthegreat 1 year ago 14
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Oh.You Israel .You thief their land, you thief the honour of their sisters, you thief the future of the young children of Palestine, you thief their hopes and aspirations, you thief their self respect, you thief their dignity and when they die you thief their organs , if you could you would steal their soul. You cannot take anything that does not belong to you or without the permission of Palestinian . Everything about this abhorrent occupation and occupier makes the whole world against you.
edmdood 1 year ago
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mARK sTEYN is best understood as a revolting arrangement of organic matter. In fact, a severe competition looms, for my vomit: his regrettable appearance, versus his views and character.
NamerNews 1 year ago
@NamerNews: Sorry if the truth hurts.
NickB1967 1 year ago 4
@NamerNews You aren't just an idiot - you are a FUCKING idiot. Perfected in your imbecilic state as the "turd of all time". Congratulations on your self-imposed, self-sustained, perpetual idiotic stature. You exemplify what can happen if people will only resolve themselves to just STOP being smart in any way, shape or form. You should be enshrined for your massive under-achievement and generally vulgar, abysmal ignorance. You are the poster-child for today's "entitlement, bedwetting sect".
BBCater 1 year ago 3
fascinating statistics about europe's growing muslim population. It seems France's gamble is this: increase and intensify the socialist program and benefits so that the aging white French population can cash in on those benefits when the Muslim youth begin to absorb French jobs. But if the Muslim youth there throw off the yoke of this socialism those old French invalids are fucked.
knocked44 1 year ago 9
@knocked44
Muslims don't work.
croscream 1 year ago
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What a fucking moron...
Pablosebbe 2 years ago
As opposed to YOUR scintillating intellect as evidenced by your uplifting vocabulary and rational arguments on the subject.
hinode56 2 years ago
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The arrogance that Robert Fisk speaks of is Mark steyn. I have heard him speak about how he think his culture which is the western culture is better/superior. Add to it his paranoia of coloured people in Europe! Total waste!
view587 2 years ago
Objective history shows that Western culture is superior, which is not to say it's perfect. And it's not paranoia against skin color but rejection of inferior and destructive worldviews.
hinode56 2 years ago 107
hinode56 I agree completely. Yours is such a simple truth I suppose most people are too complicated for it.
wmhoad 1 year ago 2
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@hinode56 Western culture is superior? How is that?
It's responsible for the destruction of our biosphere is that what makes it superior?
felixq78 1 year ago
@felixq78 Seriously? The "destruction of the biosphere"? Support your assertion.
hinode56 1 year ago 4
@felixq78: yes, because we all know how well the thrid world cares about the ecology, jeez, do you have a clue???
NickB1967 1 year ago
What's it like... waking up every morning and looking at the moron in the mirror?
AlexTaldren 1 year ago
@hinode56
The east may be primitive and violent, but it is not capable of the evil and the atrocities seen in the west, and that is systematic and unproportional destruction.
akura1984 1 year ago
@akura1984 I'm sorry...but, are you serious? If you are, you should have some examples of these evil atrocities as proof. What exactly is this evil you say the west is guilty of? And the "systematic and unproportional destruction", systematic how; unproportional to what? Back up