the problem with aikido is that they practice in their own group, know what to expect etc... and please do not tell me the techniques are too dangerous to try... it means you would not know how to use them in a real life situation as well.
Take a yellow belt (beginner) shotokan guy or a boxer and try all these aikido techniques... you will see that it is almost impossible to grab an arm or a wrist!
@marekmaxpabianice True, catching a strike is impractical, but aikido doesn't teach you to catch a strike. You'll notice that he never catches the strike, he stops the limb on return, and never with is hand. Only then does he grab. If you know a strike is coming, it is a simple matter of predicting where it will be.
Karate and Aikido teach completely different techniques. They aren't directly comparable, and just as with any martial art, who wins comes down to skill and experience. Not style.
I think this is anything but aikido vs karate. Both are ill exponents of these martial arts. Particularly, i think that an expert aikidoka would not a minute compared to an expert in karate. Any aikido technique works in arters mixed martial
i have done akido in the past and it looks fake but it believe u me its not. Of course training a couple hour a week is not going to make u a master u have to do it it for years. Yes akidoka after years of traing can defeat a strikeer. Judo on its own cannot, but with a few blocks it can . I am doing zen judo now and have done karate and jujitsu in the past
@TIMA92F Of course it's planned beforehand, in order to demonstrate technique. Before you mock it, remember that aikijutsu, from which aikido is derived, was considered a vital area of practice for the samurai. Aikidoka arguably spend too much time focusing on those specific techniques, which might limit their scope against some other kinds of fighters, but the techniques themselves are extremely effective and would have seen a great deal of use on the battlefields of feudal Japan.
if this is not a funny stuff, humorous, ridiculous or st then shud of not set the title like that cuz it ruins everything about "martial art" in your clip, its like "hey, look, mine is better tan yours" anyways (:
To cut a very very long story short : Aikido techniques are for real punches and kicks. Aikido is very hard to learn and even harder to master. 100s of techniques to infinite possibilities. Thats the reason why people train for lifetime.
To my mind the mistake that many Martial Art demonstrations make is defending against another Martial Artist. If done correctly neither would ever launch a first attack as they are based on Self Defence and not offence. IMHO Martial Arts should stick with the clear idea of defending against Habitual Acts of Physical Violence (HAPV). But of course in the dojo your partners are trained and so continues the cycle of unrealistic attacks.
@BelloBudo007 Not quite. While most martial arts focus on self defense now, the vast majority of them were developed for offensive purposes, not defensive. The function well defensively, but you lose an advantage by waiting for your opponent to attack. Besides, you are assuming that everyone that studies martial arts is a good person.
@hekihi - You appear to have missed the main point which is that Martial Arts practice is often impractical. I would never suggest a 'defender' wait to be attacked before springing into action. Sorry if it came across that way. In addition IMHO the principles of HAPV give a far better way for martial artists to hone their skills, be them offensive or defensive. Experience teaches that often Offence is the best Defence, so no arguments there. My "if done correctly" point stands.
@BelloBudo007 Hmm. I don't know enough about HAPV to know if it would be an effective training method, but martial arts have been around for millennia. In terms of martial arts, Aikido and most forms of Karate are very recent, only being a couple hundred years old at most, and are based on the principles of much older styles. Those training methods have survived through the centuries because they are effective. Impractical methods wouldn't have survived that long.
@hekihi - HAPV isn't actually a training method or so I believe. To my knowledge it comes from the common assaults that Shaolin monks experienced on their travels (72 types I believe) and the defenses are based upon those. See Patrick McCarthy for more info. As for impractical methods not surviving, well it depends if you regard such things as Tai Chi Tuan as a Martial Art or a health training method with possible Self Defence thrown in for good measure. Of course there are always exceptions.
If the karateka is actually attacking like this, then they will got what they deserved. But in true karate there is no first attack. This means that a proper karateka won't leave themselves as stupidly open as in the above video. This means that the karateka and aikido exponent will just end up looking at each other for an hour or two.
At distance you can defend yourself with karate, but after in a close distance, you are at will to develop the also great art that Aikido is as defence standing with one of the most efficacy self defence art of combat in the world. Together, Aikido and Karate, when conjugated, they are the most lethal and invincible weapon in martial arts.
I am a Karate and Aikido, practician and I can tell you, that these karate techniques are not well performed, specially the mawashi geri and the ura mawashi geri, also the mae geri hasn't been done with intention or timing. All the work here was give to Aikido man all chances, and that it's wrong!... Because these arts aren't opponents between them, but with a big complementarity between them.
I AM ACTULLY TAKING BOTH NOW BUT.. I STARTED MY FIRST AKIDO TRIAL TODAY WHAT IVE LEARNED IS ITS NOT ONLY ABOUT ATTACKING UR PARTNER.. THATS WHAT KARATE TEACHES YOU.. BUT AKIDO TEACHES U THAT YET, ITS ABOUT DEFFENDING YOUR PARTNER TOO I DEFFINETLY THINK AKIDO IS MORE OF A WAY YOU CAN DEFFEND YOUR SELF FROM AN ATTACKER WHICH NOW AS I AM 13 I NEED :) AND AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE SAMETIME U STILL HAVE WAYS OF HURTING THE OPPOMENT IN AKIDO. u can c that whatever the karate man dos the akido man flips
@jersyshore1231 Some people criticize Aikido for not being effective in real-world self defense, and I have to admit that I am undecided about this; but the aspect of Aikido that I admire most is its underlying philosophy of defending yourself while minimizing the suffering experienced by your assailant. I hope you find some value in your Aikido studies.
All these throws are very impressive. But any karateka knows well that you can't defend all attacks and you certainly should not always take the initiative. It would only take one kizami tsuky to the bridge of the nose or a well applied deai to see all that fall apart. Its not a matter of how good the aikido guy is. Its just maai, timing and the number of attacks.
I'm a student of Kempo (18 yrs) and Aikido(6yrs). They blended well for me.No art is better than the other. Effectiveness is something else. When Aikido students want to spar w/ me the get a reality check. They cannot catch my hands or feet and I do not hyper extend. I target their hands. Especially if they have them open. They are defenseless without hands
I understand this is only a study/demonstration, but I still doubt this kind of techniques can really work against a good striker.. also only as concept, according to me isn't so simple zoning away: usually a striker closes to you and only then he hits without giving you too much energy to use at your advantage
thats what aikido is all about manipulating emergy of the enemy :)
you atr also right about zoning it also important in aikido you have your one zone and you make a move when yor enemy get inside it but this vedio is not really a good example it is for illustration only
@ParkFight you are right nowadays aikidokas are for most of them unable to beat a good striker but great masters like shioda or Tohei are just invincible no matter how energy you put or how the speed of your strikes may be..check out the vids of morihei ueshiba..
Anyone knows the music?
Nickooo1982 2 days ago
the problem with aikido is that they practice in their own group, know what to expect etc... and please do not tell me the techniques are too dangerous to try... it means you would not know how to use them in a real life situation as well.
Take a yellow belt (beginner) shotokan guy or a boxer and try all these aikido techniques... you will see that it is almost impossible to grab an arm or a wrist!
marekmaxpabianice 1 week ago
@marekmaxpabianice True, catching a strike is impractical, but aikido doesn't teach you to catch a strike. You'll notice that he never catches the strike, he stops the limb on return, and never with is hand. Only then does he grab. If you know a strike is coming, it is a simple matter of predicting where it will be.
Karate and Aikido teach completely different techniques. They aren't directly comparable, and just as with any martial art, who wins comes down to skill and experience. Not style.
hekihi 1 day ago
I think this is anything but aikido vs karate. Both are ill exponents of these martial arts. Particularly, i think that an expert aikidoka would not a minute compared to an expert in karate. Any aikido technique works in arters mixed martial
rdgonzalez1000 1 week ago
The "Yanni" song really sells it as hardcore.
TheTardstrong 2 weeks ago
cant stand people talking about mma shit is so annoying
Dentchi 2 weeks ago
i would really love to see aikido techniques being used in MMA...
mamamiya3210 2 weeks ago
I would like to see an Aikido practitioner take on a Muay Thai fighter
daaskapital1 3 weeks ago
fuck akido,karate is no1
MegaDfsfsdfsdf 1 month ago
@MegaDfsfsdfsdf
f*** u aikido is wqay better, as u can see in the video above. karate can suck it
bexannevance 3 weeks ago
akido vs kickboxing[which is better]
badkid562 1 month ago
i hate myself for knowing that was yanni
nialljamesbuckley 1 month ago
i have done akido in the past and it looks fake but it believe u me its not. Of course training a couple hour a week is not going to make u a master u have to do it it for years. Yes akidoka after years of traing can defeat a strikeer. Judo on its own cannot, but with a few blocks it can . I am doing zen judo now and have done karate and jujitsu in the past
Mulberry2000 1 month ago
This is bullshit....planned beforehand...not a real fight((
TIMA92F 1 month ago
@TIMA92F Of course it's planned beforehand, in order to demonstrate technique. Before you mock it, remember that aikijutsu, from which aikido is derived, was considered a vital area of practice for the samurai. Aikidoka arguably spend too much time focusing on those specific techniques, which might limit their scope against some other kinds of fighters, but the techniques themselves are extremely effective and would have seen a great deal of use on the battlefields of feudal Japan.
quillsinister 1 month ago
@quillsinister I don't think the Aikido master in this video could do the same to that guy in real life...so why do we need this circus??...
TIMA92F 1 month ago
ahahahhahahahahahah questo video è uno spasso.
lucalucaro 1 month ago
if this is not a funny stuff, humorous, ridiculous or st then shud of not set the title like that cuz it ruins everything about "martial art" in your clip, its like "hey, look, mine is better tan yours" anyways (:
Cwyntz 1 month ago
this is slow man kicking and calling it karate
ajdoman317 1 month ago
LOL. This isn't aikido vs karate. this is aikido vs another aikido guy trying to do karate.
HirabayashiT 1 month ago
Parry a real middle kick in this way and you will break your hands, lol...
Matamune87 2 months ago
@Matamune87
struuunzzzz shut up!!
3naFioc 1 month ago
To cut a very very long story short : Aikido techniques are for real punches and kicks. Aikido is very hard to learn and even harder to master. 100s of techniques to infinite possibilities. Thats the reason why people train for lifetime.
MrDobyDub 2 months ago
@MrDobyDub That is true of literally every martial art in existence.
hekihi 1 day ago
Very good skills until u run into Tyson ..
homevideowatcher78 2 months ago
To my mind the mistake that many Martial Art demonstrations make is defending against another Martial Artist. If done correctly neither would ever launch a first attack as they are based on Self Defence and not offence. IMHO Martial Arts should stick with the clear idea of defending against Habitual Acts of Physical Violence (HAPV). But of course in the dojo your partners are trained and so continues the cycle of unrealistic attacks.
BelloBudo007 2 months ago
@BelloBudo007 Not quite. While most martial arts focus on self defense now, the vast majority of them were developed for offensive purposes, not defensive. The function well defensively, but you lose an advantage by waiting for your opponent to attack. Besides, you are assuming that everyone that studies martial arts is a good person.
hekihi 1 day ago
@hekihi - You appear to have missed the main point which is that Martial Arts practice is often impractical. I would never suggest a 'defender' wait to be attacked before springing into action. Sorry if it came across that way. In addition IMHO the principles of HAPV give a far better way for martial artists to hone their skills, be them offensive or defensive. Experience teaches that often Offence is the best Defence, so no arguments there. My "if done correctly" point stands.
BelloBudo007 1 day ago
@BelloBudo007 Hmm. I don't know enough about HAPV to know if it would be an effective training method, but martial arts have been around for millennia. In terms of martial arts, Aikido and most forms of Karate are very recent, only being a couple hundred years old at most, and are based on the principles of much older styles. Those training methods have survived through the centuries because they are effective. Impractical methods wouldn't have survived that long.
hekihi 1 day ago
@hekihi - HAPV isn't actually a training method or so I believe. To my knowledge it comes from the common assaults that Shaolin monks experienced on their travels (72 types I believe) and the defenses are based upon those. See Patrick McCarthy for more info. As for impractical methods not surviving, well it depends if you regard such things as Tai Chi Tuan as a Martial Art or a health training method with possible Self Defence thrown in for good measure. Of course there are always exceptions.
BelloBudo007 1 day ago
is in slow motion?
matiasnk2 2 months ago
middle kick is not "mawashi chudan", its mawashi geri
ura mawashi is not spinning kick, its reverse of mawashi geri.
jin54363 2 months ago
ok try tobi mawachi geri or mikazo giri or a fomikomi to the nye an dw kan see what it will happend
bboymadness10 2 months ago
I dont quite like how this video is portraying karate..
cbay11 2 months ago
If the karateka is actually attacking like this, then they will got what they deserved. But in true karate there is no first attack. This means that a proper karateka won't leave themselves as stupidly open as in the above video. This means that the karateka and aikido exponent will just end up looking at each other for an hour or two.
spacecadet35 2 months ago
@spacecadet35
The Aikido guy would run away from an above average athletic person.
sovietamerican2 2 months ago
This settles it! Aikido is superior to karate!
Dunam 2 months ago
@Dunam
You are seeing to much films like this!
To be a good aikido Uke is one of the most difficult thing: you must do all the choreography if it were a real thing!
rubengonzalezmicro 2 months ago
@Dunam People are superior ... not branches ...
MrDobyDub 2 months ago
At distance you can defend yourself with karate, but after in a close distance, you are at will to develop the also great art that Aikido is as defence standing with one of the most efficacy self defence art of combat in the world. Together, Aikido and Karate, when conjugated, they are the most lethal and invincible weapon in martial arts.
lpvl 3 months ago
I am a Karate and Aikido, practician and I can tell you, that these karate techniques are not well performed, specially the mawashi geri and the ura mawashi geri, also the mae geri hasn't been done with intention or timing. All the work here was give to Aikido man all chances, and that it's wrong!... Because these arts aren't opponents between them, but with a big complementarity between them.
lpvl 3 months ago
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please step in to the ring. aikido is true but youre falls- wrong demonstration, and fog-aikido
SuperPurgatorio 3 months ago
I AM ACTULLY TAKING BOTH NOW BUT.. I STARTED MY FIRST AKIDO TRIAL TODAY WHAT IVE LEARNED IS ITS NOT ONLY ABOUT ATTACKING UR PARTNER.. THATS WHAT KARATE TEACHES YOU.. BUT AKIDO TEACHES U THAT YET, ITS ABOUT DEFFENDING YOUR PARTNER TOO I DEFFINETLY THINK AKIDO IS MORE OF A WAY YOU CAN DEFFEND YOUR SELF FROM AN ATTACKER WHICH NOW AS I AM 13 I NEED :) AND AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE SAMETIME U STILL HAVE WAYS OF HURTING THE OPPOMENT IN AKIDO. u can c that whatever the karate man dos the akido man flips
jersyshore1231 3 months ago
@jersyshore1231 WHY ARE YOU YELLING AT ME?!!!
TheTardstrong 2 weeks ago
@jersyshore1231 Some people criticize Aikido for not being effective in real-world self defense, and I have to admit that I am undecided about this; but the aspect of Aikido that I admire most is its underlying philosophy of defending yourself while minimizing the suffering experienced by your assailant. I hope you find some value in your Aikido studies.
Tigerpaws9097826 1 day ago
All these throws are very impressive. But any karateka knows well that you can't defend all attacks and you certainly should not always take the initiative. It would only take one kizami tsuky to the bridge of the nose or a well applied deai to see all that fall apart. Its not a matter of how good the aikido guy is. Its just maai, timing and the number of attacks.
theoskgt 3 months ago
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I'm a student of Kempo (18 yrs) and Aikido(6yrs). They blended well for me.No art is better than the other. Effectiveness is something else. When Aikido students want to spar w/ me the get a reality check. They cannot catch my hands or feet and I do not hyper extend. I target their hands. Especially if they have them open. They are defenseless without hands
yourgirlssancho1 4 months ago
the "karate" man is an aikido practitioner, and maybe a long time one, no karateka would fall like that while being barely, or not, hit.
fail.
blayral 1 year ago
Ridicolo.
lenciottu 1 year ago
I understand this is only a study/demonstration, but I still doubt this kind of techniques can really work against a good striker.. also only as concept, according to me isn't so simple zoning away: usually a striker closes to you and only then he hits without giving you too much energy to use at your advantage
ParkFight 1 year ago
@ParkFight
you are right
thats why people need practice
but in aikido you get the energy from your enemy
thats what aikido is all about manipulating emergy of the enemy :)
you atr also right about zoning it also important in aikido you have your one zone and you make a move when yor enemy get inside it but this vedio is not really a good example it is for illustration only
Zedorwin 1 year ago 5
@Zedorwin I found some aikido sparring videos you can see looking for
"hatenkaiaikido aikido real fight"
do you think are these an effective demonstration of aikido's application?
ParkFight 1 year ago
@ParkFight you are right nowadays aikidokas are for most of them unable to beat a good striker but great masters like shioda or Tohei are just invincible no matter how energy you put or how the speed of your strikes may be..check out the vids of morihei ueshiba..
robertdubois19 1 month ago