Michael Fremer's "It's a Vinyl World, After All"

[MultimediaForFree]

steve hoffman and michael fremer in the same room!

it's the end of the world!

[youtert]

I'd like to see Michael Fremer debate Michael Shermer about audio cables. I'm always getting those two mixed up.

[analogcorner]

you caught me freqazoidiac! Actually were you to watch the finished DVD you'd see it starts out as Beggar's Banquet and then becomes Portishead. It was a post production continuity glitch caused by the need to use the best camera angle rather than maintaining continuity since the cameraman didn't get quite as good a shot on the Beggar's Banquet press. You got me!

[jimg0007]

@analogcorner cd is more accurate than vinyl records. better dynamic range, better signal to nosie ratio, and lower distortion than vinyl records so why waste time on them??

[analogcorner]

@jimg0007

CD's are not "more accurate." There's plenty wrong with CDs including limited bandwidth and low resolution. Listen to a 96K/24 bit version of your favorite CD and you'll hear. But more importantly, listen to good vinyl playback and you'll understand why CDs are hardly "accurate" to the source. There are reasons why people are returning to vinyl or never left it including that good LP playback sounds more accurate to the analog source than CD.

[jimg0007]

@analogcorner i have heard a high resolution CD and i dont hear a difference between that and a 16 bit 44.1 redbook cd. If its all about the analog source as you claim then why not listen to cassettes since they are analog as well? ?

[analogcorner]

First of all there is not such thing as a "high resolution CD" CDs are 16 bit 44.1K at best and sometimes the bitrate is considerably lower.

As for your question, then why not listen to MP3s at the lowest bitrate? It's "digital". Most recording engineers have no trouble hearing 16 bit vs 24 bit.

Of course if you're listening on a boom box, or plastic computer speakers you wont' hear it.

[jimg0007]

@analogcorner yea there is its called sacd which you never believed in. mp3 use a low bit rate which in turn can and sound bad but analog uses no bit rate analog is analog the only differerce is a diamond tip ripping across a piece of wax an a tape and a head. analog is stuck no improvement can and ever will happen. yet you believe in 192khz sample rates you must be a dog to hear such high frequencies cuz i cant hear them even with sine waves.

[analogcorner]

@jimg0007

I don't who you are, but your ignorance is appalling. I so "don't believe" in SACD that I have reviewed 3 SACD players this year in Stereophile. I so "don't believe" in SACD that I own hundreds of them. Where do you get your information from? No, one cannot hear 192kHz. But if you think the issue is the ability to hear them or not hear them, you know even less than you think you know.

[freqazoidiac]

beggars banquet? that's a portishead LP.

[sprousekowski]

I would love to see videos of your system and all the items that come in for review. I want to see you place records on your Caliburn-Does this confirm a diagnosis of Audiophilia Nervosa?

-Paul Sprouse

[analogcorner]

You can see records placed on the Caliburn and how it works on either of the two DVDs I've produced: "21st Century Viny..." and "It's a Vinyl World, After All." Your diagnosis is correct. I've now had the Caliburn for 4 years and it's as much fun to use today as it was 4 years ago. It took me 2 years to pay off the loan, but it was the best investment I've ever made. I'm still waiting for raymond to tell me about my 'arrogant audiophile talk'---I can't figure out what he means....

[sprousekowski]

Hey Michael,

"arrogant audiophile talk"-my ass,hell it might be what I like about analogcorner, who can say?video reviews that accompanied your columns or on there own would be killer though. You guys at the 'phile must have at least thought about it,no?

[ryanthomastew]

Michael - I'd love to see more videos from you here on YouTube. I think it would be great if you could invite some folks like Rob Beschizza over to have a listen to some good vinyl on your system. Do it. Videotape it. Upload to Youtube. So we can see how shocked and bewildered Rob will be when listening to music on your system. Anyway keep up the great work and take care.

[analogcorner]

What arrogant audiophile talk are you referring to?

-Michael Fremer

[raymondleeleggs]

I love vinyl, but most of Michael Fremers arrogant audiophile talk pisses me off. he isnt doing it here.

[turntablesrock]

Looks great!

On my to-buy list....soon as I get done upgrading the system with tubes....