... I dont like it, I think its overgrown, there's too much sound in that cover... the essential drone and minimalism of the original song is lost somewhere. I think its like making an rnb cover of smells like teen spirits. But its just my opinion, im not saying people who like it are wrong.
p.s. (i dont really like navarro, maybe thats why i dont like the song :P)
I think this version is too complicated for me. I love the VU original one, but this sounds so average, that I wont even bother to listen to it until the end. I am sure that there are other people that enjoy this song, or even like it better than the original, and I respect that, but for me, its the simplicity and hypnotic atmosphere of the original that makes me go gaga for it.
Wow he turned a masterpiece into a terrible pseudo-nu metal-boy band shit. No wonder why when he was with the Peppers they couldn't come up with good songs.
Read all the shit in some of the comments... There're some people that just don't get the feelings embedded in the music.
Love the cover, the whole mood of the song is different.
Don't get me wrong, I love the original, but you just have to be in a different state of mind to listen to both of the tracks. I'd never listen to them one after the other...
music has the power to move people. It is amazing what one can do with a few chords and some lyrics. I mean..you don't even have to have the lyrics..just a few notes. Music really does have power to sooth the savage beast. what is this whole kick about female domination???? If anyone knows anything about bdsm it is that it goes both ways..Masters and Mistresses.....I think someone leads a very dull sex life or was really scorned.
I deny it. I think music can both be conducive to hopelessness and happiness. If you're suicidal, and you are listening to a record, I hardly see how you are going to just throw your head up and say "Hey! life is worth living, all of my real problems are now absolved, and because of this sound and the people I bought it from I am happy!"
If that is the case, than you are truly delusional, and just may benefit from bombing it anyway.
I read some of your comments and you just make no sense.
gargantuan sock dude is right.
music is most definitely not all about lyrics, try poetry.
specifically when you hear the song Venus in Furs, I barely listen to any of the lyrics, the song has such a great feel to it that the velvet gave. the only words I even hear are "shiny shiny...shiny, shiny leather."
music has a crazy power over people, you are not the person to judge whether or not that's true.
No, It's the lyrics. The music is wonderful too, but it could not save my life. That's just stupid. Music is not this effective,you are the one who does not die if you decide for any reason to save your own life. The lyrics too, if he decided not to die or whatever because of either he is an idiot...There are more important things in life then to just sit around and get high. Indulging in it for an other reason aside from what you can relate to is what 13 year olds do. Even if just get high
It affects different people in different ways, an it does not make you an idiot if it's your mode of escape when life seems hopeless. In some cases it has been their only mode of escape.
Don't even think of denying this - I've seen it firsthand, and I know several people who would not be here today if it wasn't for music . Obviously I can't prove that here so you're just gonna have to trust me on that one.
@TheGargantuanSock I can back that statement. Music has a HUGE influence over my life. It can set my mood. It can make my day happy-go-lucky just as it can bring me way down...
@TheGargantuanSock Well I can second that notion: If it wasn't for music I damn sure wouldn't be here, I use it as an escape everyday, life is bland without it. Also, you can use it as a mechanism or an "outlet" as the preverbial saying goes, instead of doing something more drastic, so yeah your damn right dude :)
The Velvet's were assholes, they don't care about Dave Navarro or his respect...They advocate every bit of anything subversive as they defined a very nihilistic scene...
To say that "Venus In Furs" saved your life has to be irony. Either that or he himself does not understand the lyrics, or the literature it was based on.
Maybe the song heroin would have been a little more appropriate? Still stupid, but a little less irrelevant than a song about extreme sadomasochism
A song's lyrical meaning is not all there is to a song. When I'm feeling low I often find comfort in One Hot Minute, by the Chili Peppers. It's not an uplifting album, and most of the songs lyrics are not relevant to me. I guess Navarro would've found similar comfort in the Velvets.
Let's be honest, when you listen to the original Venus In Furs, it's not the lyrics that strike you. You get lost in the music, entering a state where the words almost seem blurred. Do you not feel that way at all?
Well I don't get it...Why do it at all? It's not like this song has not been covered a million times, and even so the subject matter has little to do with his emotions, that is, unless he (which I doubt) is into extreme BDSM and female supremacy...Concepts that probably don't register much with his sleek white male teenager fanbase...
I don't know how you can deduce respect out of pointless re-appropriation, unless it were clever and self aware...Respect just may entail not doing it at all
Read up on Navarro, the Velvets pretty much saved his life through their music, particularly this song. He recorded this version along with some very self reflective songs, looking back over incidents like his failed marriages, his mother's murder and his addiction to heroin.
I can totally see where he's coming from, and why he recorded this song in those sessions. He also recorded a version of "The Bed".
This is not just a simple cover, there's more to it if you dig deep.
This must be the best example of a Douche bag I could find on the internet, doing the most Douche bag rendition of some song that has nothing to do with him or his douchey career.
Unless this is supposed to be funny...Even then it is not such a good yolk
Dave was hugely influenced by Lou Reed and the Velvet Underground. He covered this song out of respect - he knew full well it wouldn't be as good as the original and he didn't try to improve on the original.
This is a respectful cover of a song that was very important to him, on a very emotional, personal album that was released small scale.
You should'nt criticise something if you don't know the full picture, and mate, and you don't appear to know even half of it.
I agree. I was a teenager in the late 70's-early 80's, so I heard many an old saccharine pop tune churned through the punk mill and turned "edgy." But to take a Velvet Underground song and turn it into something you'd hear at the mall... I don't get it. Warhol's probably creaming his
its an alright cover, i like it but it's certainly not the best. Trust No One is one of those albums I love to listen to every now and then but forget about it most of the time.
... I dont like it, I think its overgrown, there's too much sound in that cover... the essential drone and minimalism of the original song is lost somewhere. I think its like making an rnb cover of smells like teen spirits. But its just my opinion, im not saying people who like it are wrong.
p.s. (i dont really like navarro, maybe thats why i dont like the song :P)
piskorz1 3 months ago
I'm sorry but I can't hear why so many think this cover is horrible
silentevil77 4 months ago
ma come si fa a fare una cover di una canzone perfetta?sarà sempre peggiore...
allivevili 4 months ago
opinion: this is a major embarrassment. an awful cover
meatpuppetsucd 5 months ago
As Uncle Perry once said ''some people should die''
MrFlatmint 6 months ago
Terrible didn't like it at all!
He shouldn't have touched this beautiful peace and I usually like Dave's shit to.
What a shame
seppukuification925 6 months ago
His voice is very much like Steven Wilson from Porcupine Tree.
chronicreptile 6 months ago
No words can describe this. It shouldn't be allowed.
fenners81 7 months ago
beer
shotoffury 1 year ago
Shit, this is a disgrace. I'm a fan of Navarro, but fucking sweet Jesus, man. Horrible.
mussman717word 1 year ago
ooh, I like his version!
ChrissieBana 1 year ago
@MissEMA090
Homo?
Carthsgtr 1 year ago
wow, that sucks a lot..... how to break a legend...
matmixx 1 year ago 3
It's about time this great song got the deluxe treatment. I like.
willbond 1 year ago
Dave should be treated like he treated this song--butchered.
JLWing77 1 year ago
i think , no offense, he twisted the song you know, he put a lot of sounds that didnt mach with the song, way better the original.......
soundofmusic94 1 year ago
Interesting!
Oudler 1 year ago
I think this version is too complicated for me. I love the VU original one, but this sounds so average, that I wont even bother to listen to it until the end. I am sure that there are other people that enjoy this song, or even like it better than the original, and I respect that, but for me, its the simplicity and hypnotic atmosphere of the original that makes me go gaga for it.
littlecomawhite 1 year ago
@littlecomawhite nothing beats the original one.
Oudler 1 year ago
vaya tralla no?!?!
metramil 1 year ago
and thus sicken.
batmobile13 1 year ago
or seemingly great some perceive them. these comments are translucent jelly wrapped in saran wrap. Slick but go nowhere.
batmobile13 1 year ago
Someone should have stopped him from butchering this song.
He not only butchered it ,but stole it's purity and simplicity.
HELLMARKFILMS 1 year ago
This is great!
dyasscomedy 1 year ago
@MissEMA090
you're crazy
Floro920 1 year ago
now this is totaly LAME....
Kamil06660 1 year ago 3
EEEEAK! OMG Dave covered this? Loves it!
thunderlola 1 year ago
Wow he turned a masterpiece into a terrible pseudo-nu metal-boy band shit. No wonder why when he was with the Peppers they couldn't come up with good songs.
AFirmKickInThePants 2 years ago
almost sounds like new order
NahDutch 2 years ago
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dzejsej88 2 years ago
I guess it could be considered more of a "version" rather than a cover. I think it´s very cool. Brilliant in some parts!
XV4444 2 years ago
Read all the shit in some of the comments... There're some people that just don't get the feelings embedded in the music.
Love the cover, the whole mood of the song is different.
Don't get me wrong, I love the original, but you just have to be in a different state of mind to listen to both of the tracks. I'd never listen to them one after the other...
kolio2 2 years ago 4
Good cover!
BejnXander 2 years ago 2
so bad
dhoulkarnain 2 years ago
ugh he doesn't get this song at all
emmagreenbean 2 years ago
he doesn't get it because he didn't fit your narrow perception?
Baldmelon 2 years ago
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oh no, no, no, no.....
this is bad.
MagicofMusic147 2 years ago
PuRUs ORgAsmUS!!!
sabinulik 2 years ago
this song is about LOVE ... its a love song on acid :)
textwarrior 2 years ago 3
This is a good cover. Fuck you losers. Does every cover of an amazing song sucks? No.
I'd also like to add that Trust No One is a very good album. Last good thing Dave Navarro did.
Jane's Addiction/Red Hot Chili Peppers FTMFW.
MinisterOfMajesty 2 years ago 20
@MinisterOfMajesty
Navarro is a faggot.
figaz555 1 year ago
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This sucks. This song was never meant to be this way.
taryndactylable 2 years ago
yea dAve RULES so much !
zeeanthem 2 years ago
music has the power to move people. It is amazing what one can do with a few chords and some lyrics. I mean..you don't even have to have the lyrics..just a few notes. Music really does have power to sooth the savage beast. what is this whole kick about female domination???? If anyone knows anything about bdsm it is that it goes both ways..Masters and Mistresses.....I think someone leads a very dull sex life or was really scorned.
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I deny it. I think music can both be conducive to hopelessness and happiness. If you're suicidal, and you are listening to a record, I hardly see how you are going to just throw your head up and say "Hey! life is worth living, all of my real problems are now absolved, and because of this sound and the people I bought it from I am happy!"
If that is the case, than you are truly delusional, and just may benefit from bombing it anyway.
TheCrazyadam15 2 years ago
You're being very naive. Just because something means little to you, doesn't mean it should mean little to others.
You'd be surprised by how big a difference something seemingly small can make.
TheGargantuanSock 2 years ago 17
what are you even talking about?
I read some of your comments and you just make no sense.
gargantuan sock dude is right.
music is most definitely not all about lyrics, try poetry.
specifically when you hear the song Venus in Furs, I barely listen to any of the lyrics, the song has such a great feel to it that the velvet gave. the only words I even hear are "shiny shiny...shiny, shiny leather."
music has a crazy power over people, you are not the person to judge whether or not that's true.
FarBeyondDriven67 2 years ago 4
No, It's the lyrics. The music is wonderful too, but it could not save my life. That's just stupid. Music is not this effective,you are the one who does not die if you decide for any reason to save your own life. The lyrics too, if he decided not to die or whatever because of either he is an idiot...There are more important things in life then to just sit around and get high. Indulging in it for an other reason aside from what you can relate to is what 13 year olds do. Even if just get high
TheCrazyadam15 2 years ago
You underestimate the power of music.
It affects different people in different ways, an it does not make you an idiot if it's your mode of escape when life seems hopeless. In some cases it has been their only mode of escape.
Don't even think of denying this - I've seen it firsthand, and I know several people who would not be here today if it wasn't for music . Obviously I can't prove that here so you're just gonna have to trust me on that one.
TheGargantuanSock 2 years ago 17
@TheGargantuanSock I can back that statement. Music has a HUGE influence over my life. It can set my mood. It can make my day happy-go-lucky just as it can bring me way down...
DrunkenLeprechaunPro 1 year ago
@TheGargantuanSock so true!
biggestchampsyouknow 6 months ago
@TheGargantuanSock Well I can second that notion: If it wasn't for music I damn sure wouldn't be here, I use it as an escape everyday, life is bland without it. Also, you can use it as a mechanism or an "outlet" as the preverbial saying goes, instead of doing something more drastic, so yeah your damn right dude :)
tw1ggys1xx 2 weeks ago
It's not that important to most people, I doubt it is to you, and I'm really not sure it is to me. No shame in that at all.
People find comfort in many different ways... whatever makes / keeps you happy eh.
TheGargantuanSock 2 years ago
The Velvet's were assholes, they don't care about Dave Navarro or his respect...They advocate every bit of anything subversive as they defined a very nihilistic scene...
To say that "Venus In Furs" saved your life has to be irony. Either that or he himself does not understand the lyrics, or the literature it was based on.
Maybe the song heroin would have been a little more appropriate? Still stupid, but a little less irrelevant than a song about extreme sadomasochism
TheCrazyadam15 2 years ago
A song's lyrical meaning is not all there is to a song. When I'm feeling low I often find comfort in One Hot Minute, by the Chili Peppers. It's not an uplifting album, and most of the songs lyrics are not relevant to me. I guess Navarro would've found similar comfort in the Velvets.
Let's be honest, when you listen to the original Venus In Furs, it's not the lyrics that strike you. You get lost in the music, entering a state where the words almost seem blurred. Do you not feel that way at all?
TheGargantuanSock 2 years ago 3
You're dumb.
chandru1103 2 years ago
Well I don't get it...Why do it at all? It's not like this song has not been covered a million times, and even so the subject matter has little to do with his emotions, that is, unless he (which I doubt) is into extreme BDSM and female supremacy...Concepts that probably don't register much with his sleek white male teenager fanbase...
I don't know how you can deduce respect out of pointless re-appropriation, unless it were clever and self aware...Respect just may entail not doing it at all
TheCrazyadam15 2 years ago
Read up on Navarro, the Velvets pretty much saved his life through their music, particularly this song. He recorded this version along with some very self reflective songs, looking back over incidents like his failed marriages, his mother's murder and his addiction to heroin.
I can totally see where he's coming from, and why he recorded this song in those sessions. He also recorded a version of "The Bed".
This is not just a simple cover, there's more to it if you dig deep.
TheGargantuanSock 2 years ago
I'm gonna vomit. How could someone do something like this to this wonderful song?
silviafarfallina 2 years ago
It's not exactly uncommon for band / artists to record cover versions of songs that have influenced them, and are important to them.
It's called respect, why would someone try to merely copy the original exactly?
I'm not blaming anyone for not liking this version, but completely slating it is totally out of order.
TheGargantuanSock 2 years ago
This must be the best example of a Douche bag I could find on the internet, doing the most Douche bag rendition of some song that has nothing to do with him or his douchey career.
Unless this is supposed to be funny...Even then it is not such a good yolk
TheCrazyadam15 2 years ago
Be fair mate.
Dave was hugely influenced by Lou Reed and the Velvet Underground. He covered this song out of respect - he knew full well it wouldn't be as good as the original and he didn't try to improve on the original.
This is a respectful cover of a song that was very important to him, on a very emotional, personal album that was released small scale.
You should'nt criticise something if you don't know the full picture, and mate, and you don't appear to know even half of it.
TheGargantuanSock 2 years ago
great cover...a cover is not comparable with the original...thats is stupyd
ratoneador 2 years ago
This is a horrible cover in my opinion..the haunting violin shredding of the original makes the song what it is.
nickfromCO 2 years ago
I agree. I was a teenager in the late 70's-early 80's, so I heard many an old saccharine pop tune churned through the punk mill and turned "edgy." But to take a Velvet Underground song and turn it into something you'd hear at the mall... I don't get it. Warhol's probably creaming his
Fiorucci's in his grave, though!
nauort23 2 years ago
its an alright cover, i like it but it's certainly not the best. Trust No One is one of those albums I love to listen to every now and then but forget about it most of the time.
jhilikus03 2 years ago
by comparison this is a terrible cover
elspanyard 2 years ago
Dave's voice is remotely like John Cale's version.
mainman99987 2 years ago
Good Cover
Arrghhville 3 years ago
I think the Smashing Pumpkins did a cover of this song too. Or am i wrong?
4StringDomination 3 years ago 2
yes, they did one as well
courtneydidit 3 years ago 3
Actualy song is from Velvet Underground, any way nice performance
harpun4o 3 years ago
The original is by the Velvet Underground yes, but this is Dave Navarro's version.
TheGargantuanSock 3 years ago
Excelente!!!!
321joana123 3 years ago
i have this album... quite solid...
crowy85 3 years ago
nice song.Dave RULEZ!!!
IIIIFLEAIIII 3 years ago