ATTENTION- Always sink any floor nails with a nail punch before using a sanding machine. Most fllors now are tongue and groove with hidden nails in the groove of the floor. In many older floors the nails are visible and need to be recessed before sanding. The sparks you see at 33-35 seconds is the sander hitting off the nails. At the least they will rip the sandpaper and at worst ruin the machine.
@tankhamer Where are you located? Don't u have ready water based gap filler? It dries in 10-15 min. And you should get the bigger sander. I'm using a 12' Galaxy and doing only one angle with 36 grid paper and then along the boards before edging.
@Bdiddly1 maximum 5h with polishing and breaks for cigarette :)
I made a floor polisher into a floor sander by attaching sanding discs to the buffing pads, after pulling out all the tufts. Then attached my Dyson vacuum cleaner to it marvellous idea, not quiet enough power with the polisher i have ATM
bgggbb .... Usually when you stain you vibe sand around everything you hit with the edger before the buff. Always go down a cut if you cut with 120 for a final on the edger go with a 100 grit on the vibe for stain! And for the love of god get a new machine this thing looks like shit. Get a Lagler Hummel?!?!
I've been doing it for quite a while now and still always sand the corners after i scrape, unless it's not being stained! If it is being stained, your almost garenteed to leave marks no matter how good you are!
We dont finish a floor unless its done right and we always buff after the final sanding! It gets rid of the imperfections the drum sander might have missed and it gets rid of edger mistakes as well!
I used to get a lot of jobs like this. Refinishing an old floor can be very difficult, especially planks such as this. I also use an external DCS system, but I like your set up. Nice job on a difficult floor.
across the grain? Ive never seen that. they have water base filler which is much better then that old stuff your using. And for the love of god set some nails, your sander drum and edger pad must be hating you.
The angle on first cut should be 7-15degrees,waterbased filler is great but wood doe is the right choise here.Complete embaresment with the nails.Paper loses its quality when caught a nail/staple.$200 for my edger pad,$ 600 for the big machine pad.they must be broke.
You must be new to floor sanding, that old stuff you refer to is the best stuff in the business. it's called Lecol (filler) and is mixed with sand dust from the first sanding to provide the perfect colour and texture match for the rest of the timer floor so with any other filler one will not get the same match.
I've been doing floors for about six months now... I noticed that you mentioned something about scraping corners went out a long time ago. That's how we do it, but I was curious to know how well the belt sander actually does in the corners... I could visualize that it wouldn't get it perfect like hand scraping does...
we dont set nails as the belt sand papper cuts them off as we go over them and the corners are sander with a small bult sander scrapping went out a long long long time ago
ATTENTION- Always sink any floor nails with a nail punch before using a sanding machine. Most fllors now are tongue and groove with hidden nails in the groove of the floor. In many older floors the nails are visible and need to be recessed before sanding. The sparks you see at 33-35 seconds is the sander hitting off the nails. At the least they will rip the sandpaper and at worst ruin the machine.
boscoesarmy 9 months ago
@boscoesarmy or ignite the dust in the bag :)
@tankhamer Where are you located? Don't u have ready water based gap filler? It dries in 10-15 min. And you should get the bigger sander. I'm using a 12' Galaxy and doing only one angle with 36 grid paper and then along the boards before edging.
@Bdiddly1 maximum 5h with polishing and breaks for cigarette :)
gargusio 9 months ago
what an old machine. My company use new Bona belt sanders connected to a Bona DCS Extraction unit.
amflooring1 1 year ago
Thanks for posting. I was sanding a very old floor
and the sand paper kept ripping off the machine, any ideas why? Is was a rental, cheers.
AbuCelt 1 year ago
I made a floor polisher into a floor sander by attaching sanding discs to the buffing pads, after pulling out all the tufts. Then attached my Dyson vacuum cleaner to it marvellous idea, not quiet enough power with the polisher i have ATM
kennnmoran 1 year ago
how long roughly should it take 2 do a room about the same size as the 1 on the vid?
Bdiddly1 1 year ago
bgggbb .... Usually when you stain you vibe sand around everything you hit with the edger before the buff. Always go down a cut if you cut with 120 for a final on the edger go with a 100 grit on the vibe for stain! And for the love of god get a new machine this thing looks like shit. Get a Lagler Hummel?!?!
winger1123 2 years ago
this film is over 2 years old. look at other films to see knew sanders and vacuum unit that would put a hummer to shame.
tankhamer 2 years ago
@winger1123 'get a new machine this thing looks like shit'...
y dont u get a life, the guys done a good job
levrone007 1 year ago
Hi im looking to start my own floor sanding company is there much money to be earned?
dazmein 2 years ago
I say go over the floor to sink or remove all nails and staples . it ruins the disc,drum 120$ and
400$
it only takes 10 minutes to do it
doktorstolat 3 years ago
I've been doing it for quite a while now and still always sand the corners after i scrape, unless it's not being stained! If it is being stained, your almost garenteed to leave marks no matter how good you are!
bgggbb 3 years ago
Get yourself a Fein Multimaster for the corners.
Esinemuk 3 years ago
You should invest in some safety equipment...might save your hearing.
OriginalKemoSabe 3 years ago
Do you buff sand the floor when you are done?
We dont finish a floor unless its done right and we always buff after the final sanding! It gets rid of the imperfections the drum sander might have missed and it gets rid of edger mistakes as well!
bgggbb 3 years ago
I used to get a lot of jobs like this. Refinishing an old floor can be very difficult, especially planks such as this. I also use an external DCS system, but I like your set up. Nice job on a difficult floor.
refinedhardwood 3 years ago
across the grain? Ive never seen that. they have water base filler which is much better then that old stuff your using. And for the love of god set some nails, your sander drum and edger pad must be hating you.
lawsonity 4 years ago
The angle on first cut should be 7-15degrees,waterbased filler is great but wood doe is the right choise here.Complete embaresment with the nails.Paper loses its quality when caught a nail/staple.$200 for my edger pad,$ 600 for the big machine pad.they must be broke.
euroshf 3 years ago
He sands across the grain to level the floor. Thats what we do. Old floors like this cant be done properly if you dont!
bgggbb 3 years ago 2
You must be new to floor sanding, that old stuff you refer to is the best stuff in the business. it's called Lecol (filler) and is mixed with sand dust from the first sanding to provide the perfect colour and texture match for the rest of the timer floor so with any other filler one will not get the same match.
leafmutt 2 years ago
Panic over! I can rest easy now. Thanks for the vid, it was life-saver!
DETProductions 4 years ago
I've been doing floors for about six months now... I noticed that you mentioned something about scraping corners went out a long time ago. That's how we do it, but I was curious to know how well the belt sander actually does in the corners... I could visualize that it wouldn't get it perfect like hand scraping does...
mykcarlson 4 years ago 2
Scraping is the best choice in my opinion! Then we use a Palm sander to get rid of the scraper marks! I've been at it for about 3 years now!
bgggbb 3 years ago
Plus the belt would leave groves where the paper cant get right up against the wall! You are doing it the right way!
bgggbb 3 years ago
Should it would pal,if you don't know how to run the machine...Have you ever heard of feathering?
pcjunkie54 2 years ago
How long do you let the floor paste dry?
vetavitamn 4 years ago
the fine dust is mixed with a resin called Lecol 7500.
Drying time is about 30min-60min.
all the best dave applin
tankhamer 4 years ago
this is the best video I saw on youtube, thx it really helped me to get an idea of what to do before I sanded my floors
liquea01 4 years ago
we dont set nails as the belt sand papper cuts them off as we go over them and the corners are sander with a small bult sander scrapping went out a long long long time ago
tankhamer 4 years ago
thank you
nice work and video
tr51699 4 years ago
I hate edge sanding! Nice video, check out mine.
freecuz 4 years ago
This is very cool and informative! Thank you.
polarbear60 5 years ago