so i just mixed some curry paste, pesto and dolmio tomatoe sauc, with Courgettes, onions, carrots, galric and - cooked spanish hamon - weird i know - i just don;t like eating it raw - it's too stringy. Ate with pasta. Reccomoen!d" ^_^ x xx
What is really sad is how creationists can't bear to reject logic anymore, hence come up with opinions that suggests god made creatures evolve...which ofcourse has no specific mention in the bible (like many other things). Then again I can't expect much, people have been changing and editing these religious texts over centuries to their liking and believe they are in the right. Just shows how much of a joke it is.....
@Silversong88 no kidding. the reason why god ever existed is because they were used to explain what we could not understand. now that we have the means of understanding the mysteries of life, gods are unnecessary. i don't get why people cling to it.
Creationism does NOT say that everything was created at the exact same time. Is he talking about the Bible? The Koran? Deism?.....Creationism says different things depending on the creationist's God prospective.....don't be afraid...just say....CHRISTIANS :)
@TiberiusDominus Actually not at all. Creationism specifically covers Christianity, Islam and Judaism. There are no distinct differences with the three religions as to creation because they all derive from the SAME book - Torah. it is pointless to say just Christian. And yes creationism says everything was created in seven days - and sea and land animals were created in the 5th and 6th day...And it says nothing about birds giving birth to other 'kinds of birds'. that is a poor attempt.
Lol the bible does say that animals were created in present form. However what Evolutionists forget to do is actually read it. The bible says that animals will give offspring according to their kind. Which means that birds will have offspring of other 'kinds of birds' and dogs will give offspring of other 'kinds of dogs'. This video wasn't enlightening. Please make one simply about the Macro-evolution containing 'Monkey to man' evidence....thanks!
@TiberiusDominus your example would disprove evolution. if a chicken mated with a chicken and laid a peacock evolution would be disproven. your statement is wrong. sorry.
if you watche dhis first and second video your questions would be answered.
@nakedmambo NEVER ACCUSE ME OF LYING. It's in the video you dip wad. "An atavism is an evolutionary throwback... Which had disappeared generations ago." THAT'S A BACKWARDS STEP. I was repeating what was so stupidly used in the video as PROOF of Darwinian evolution! Idiot.
god already said that snakes used to have limbs and he took them away in genesis, and as for the hip bones those are needed to keep the tail moving vertically with efficiency, its not from evolution its needed to survive. if it did evolve from a land animal once the hips could not support them to walk on land, the hips would still be to large the pelvis to large and the tail wich would result in crushing the pelvis and bring them to mass extinction. the end, your proof is jus misconseptions.
They're evolutionary throwbacks you retard *facepalm* There is no 'end goal' for evolution, what the hell are you talking about?? You keep laughing, just understand we're all laughing at you, not with you.
@dinopad10 explain how this is a backwards step it just old gene being turned back on temporarily and how does intelligent design explain this god was telling a joke.
Geese do have tiny little teeth.. I remember as a child I was literally freaked out when I tried to touch a small baby goose..I won't forget how the mother open it's beck hissing at me, and I could see those small tiny teeth..
if creationsim is true, why would a god make dolphins breathe air? That must be such a pain in the ass. why not give them gills? Yea I'd love to stay and chat bro but i breathe air for some reason. does god hate dolphins?
@spatch8806 Yeah, even more so, it seems he hates us as well, all those primitives in the bible say things like "how wonderful your creation, god!" yet there are animals with better parts then us, our eye is poorly constructed, we have a useless appendix that randomly explodes and kills us, there are like 5 incredibly lethal bacterias that almost lead us into extinction, dozens of times. God was loving back then, but now we know animals are better in certain ways, he's hates us now whata cop out
The inner ear also shrinking also provided better tollerance to the acrobatic movements required to escape prediters in the water. With less fluid trveling through the inner ear marrine mammles don't get as dissoriented while swimming.
here's a thought why would the ancient sumerians drawing depictions of superior beings,in what looked like crafts. rather than the apes and neanderthals that they evolved from. Why and how did they obtain intelligence from star constellations to astronomical geometry that apparently we only worked out this century. Also the bible is interpreted a whole lot different in hebrew and is a lot more significant to astrology.Nothings black or white here so many questions unanswered.
You cannot empirically take DNA from a crime scene and say it belongs to the criminal. That is a theory, or an assumption . . . not a fact. You can't PROVE that the DNA belongs to the criminal, let alone that he was actually there. Forensics is closer to religion than science.
@coltharpnicholas Woah, hold yer horses there, buddy. I just so happen to be a forensic scientist. DNA can be linked to an individual. The only reason we don't usually say it's definitive, is because DNA can be planted. This is why we talk in scales of probability (Probable, not so probably, very probable, etc). Forensic scientists really value biological evidence for this reason, it can be linked to an individual, other then say, shoeprints, as the shoes could have been worn by anyone.
@coltharpnicholas And I'll have you know forensic scientists never make assumptions like that. Also, it's not a theory. If your DNA is a match, it means it belongs to that person. You might be a victim of the "CSI-effect", so I don't blame you for your misunderstanding. But don't liken forensic science to religion. That's just wrong, seriously.
@omgwtfbbqxD I was responding to a comment that claimed that you cannot PROVE that one fossil evolved into the other. That may be correct . . . but we can make reasonable inferences. The same is true of crime scene forensics: there's a chance (however miniscule) that the DNA at a crime scene could have just randomly assembled.
@coltharpnicholas No, especially not DNA with the same profile as the defendant or victim. As a forensic scientist, I'd like to think I know this. There are many things to take into account when handling DNA, like contamination, or body fluids from several people mixed together etc, but DNA does not just randomly assemble, it can't. But I don't know about the fossil record. Just trying to clear up your misunderstanding about forensics :)
@omgwtfbbqxD According to quantum physics, anything can spontaneously assemble. The chances of this happening are beyond miniscule, but it is a possibility.
Furthermore, we don't know *everything*. It's possible there's a natural process that randomly assembles DNA. But given what we know, when we find DNA, we can reasonably infer that it came from someone.
@coltharpnicholas Sure I'll agree that there might be an unknown process that randomly forms DNA, but if there were such a process the odds of the profile matching that of any human is miniscule. And yeah things can spontaneously assemble, just like you said, but I think that's thermodynamics and not quantum physics, and the odds are so miniscule it just doesn't happen, like the wind on the beach putting together a sandcastle.
@omgwtfbbqxD actually there are interesting findings as to DNA fragments forming under lightning conditions. The wind on the beach putting a sandcastle together is not really a good example. Take these example. Finding random arrangement of clouds, rocks mountains etc that resemble a penis, face, bird etc.. happens all the time. But that does not equate to quantum randomness.
@omgwtfbbqxD I agree. Similarly, if there are two fossils with clear similarities, located in similar places and dated to times near each other, then the odds that these fossils are evolutionarily unrelated are so small as to be ignored. Hypothetically, they could be completely unrelated, but that kind of thing simply doesn't happen.
You cannot empirically take any two fossils and say they are linked. That is a theory, or an assumption...not a fact. you can't prove that any of those specimens bore young, let alone that those young became a different species. Darwin's theory is closer to religion than scientific fact brother man. You're more than welcome to practice your religion...but don't call it science:)
we probably came from rats because rats were the first mammals alive and were much more bigger than the regular rat today. Anyway, since monkeys and us have a common ancestor (Rats) that explains why we have... tails
Well explained. Can we somehow get all the Youtube creationist extremists to watch this three part piece on evolution? I don't possibly see how anyone with even a lick of intelligence can watch this and still claim creation to be their absolute truth? Please open you minds to the possibility. Love your god all you want, but don't deny that evolution is an ongoing fact on planet Earth.
@jojojosmart What do you think a transitional species looks like? Are you thinking Crocoduck or something different? I recommend looking up the scientific explanation.
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6
@jojojosmart They twist scientific discoveries, they deliberately falsify claims made by scientists and make up the most insane stories to make people like you question the science. Then they seek to use this to throw their own ideas into the mix. Intelligent design. Well even if evolution suddenly and inexplicably failed and a new theory was postulated and put forward it certainly wouldn't be ID. Why? Because ID has been proven wrong already. How could that be? Watch the video above...
@Gibbons3457... That video is all you should need to accept evolution. Why you ask? Because everything that is said in that video can be verified. It can be tested. Yes I know you hate the testing techniques but unfortunately for you they actually work. Those techniques wouldn't be used if they didn't. What you'll have to understand is that science is a self correcting process. It changes not because it is wrong but because it is trying to be right. It aims to become more accurate...
@jojojosmart ...Now I know that confuses you. Correcting? I know you think you know EVERYTHING because of the bible. But you have been taught that the bible MUST be right and you just cannot live without it being true. Well sorry but you'll just have to get over it. Throughout my time conversing with you on youtube you have done nothing but quote the bible, ask questions (which have been answered), ignore answers and dodge any and all questions asked. This shows me that you are a coward...
@jojojosmart ... A coward and a wilfully ignorant man. I ask now that you find and show me IRREFUTABLE and PROVABLE evidence of your god. Not something subjective or something in the bible. Not figures on how many people believe in your god and most certainly not the old line "You go find it, it's that obvious". The ball's in your court. It's your turn to move. Prove to me that your god and that the bible is correct. Until you do, NOTHING you say has any meaning or any weight. Good luck.
@Gibbons3457 --- YOu can not show me any irrefutable or provable evidence that man evolved from apes or that apes evolved from man if that is the new 180 degree turn you have made in your theory. Merry CHRISTmas.
Of course I can't, because that's not what evolution says, evolution states that man and apes had a common ancestor, how you fail to accept this is proof of either you're stupidity or your indoctrination. And signing "Merry CHRISTmas" makes you sound either idiotic or mildly OCD, just because it has the word "christ" isn't proof of God because the holiday didn't exist until 400 years after his death.
@atheism616 Even though it is the day after CHRISTmas, I'll say Merry CHRISTmas again because it isn't just one day,. It is a celebration that God took on human flesh and became one of us to show us the way. You can turn your head from Jesus Christ , but He still died for your sins and is willing to give you the free gift of eternal life if you are willing to repent and recieve His salvation.
Hey it's not like you celebrate his birth on the right day anyway so what's a day after the non-birth of "Christ." Your God is a myth started from fear of death, a lack of knowledge and later used to control the masses, accept it.
@atheism616 -- Jesus Christ is my only Lord and savior. I don't allow the propaganda and materialism of the world make my opinions of truth. Merry CHRISTmas.
All that Christianity is, is propaganda. And in what way are my opinions based on political correctness, I would like to know how you've come to this ridiculous conclusion? And surely "truth" itself is subjective? One person sees the same set of events completely differently to the other side. However when it comes to science I agree that the truth is narrow, but biblical interpretation can be very different, I think there is a hilarious Monty Python sketch about this.
@atheism616 --- Many men see things different and many have their own interpretations. It doesn't matter how each sees it, because it doesn't change the truth. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today , and forever. The truth doesn't change like theories of evolution. Merry CHRISTmas
@atheism616 --- Many men see things different and many have their own interpretations. It doesn't matter how each sees it, because it doesn't change the truth. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today , and forever. The truth doesn't change like theories of evolution. Merry CHRISTmas
In fact the first Gospel didn't mention Jesus' birth, suggesting that either the disciples didn't know about Christ's birth, or just didn't care. That is probably where the link between Christian and countless other pagan religions appears, because they made it up to create the illusion of divinity. An illusion so thick that 2000 yrs after a first world country still believes in a talking snake over evolution. Religion poisons minds to rejecting logic in favour of ancient myths.
A person was "prophesied," not Jesus. Well I can make a prediction that in another 700 years another child will be born out of wedlock and the mother will claim supernatural causes. And again you can't use the bible to support the bible, how can you not understand this? Jesus conformed to the prophecy, not the other way round, in fact early Gospels didn't claim that he was the son of God, just another prophet, but these were omitted to make christianity more credible.
@atheism616 -- The gospels all confirm that Jesus is the Son of God. Read them for yourself. Jesus fullfilled the prophecies of the old testament. Not by coincidence or by conforming to them. No one could possibly orchestrate where they would be born, when they would be born, and how their life would play out except God Himself. Merry CHRISTmas
@jojojosmart "YOu can not show me any irrefutable or provable evidence that man evolved from apes or that apes evolved from man if that is the new 180 degree turn you have made in your theory. Merry CHRISTmas."
Apes evolved from man? Now you've lost it. (like you ever had it).
Actually I can show you refutable evidence that man and the other great apes (because man is still an ape) share a common ancestor, it's called your chromosomes and they prove evolution.
@jojojosmart " The only dodging being done here is you dodging the truth of Jesus Christ. Merry CHRISTmas."
What's to dodge? All you've done is recite bible quotes which you can't even prove were written by who you say they are written by. That and said Merry Christmas repeatedly, as if you suffer from OCD.
I however have given links to 3 lists of transitional fossils and the video above (and the others in the series) have given countless testable sources for proof. Ignore them you have.
@jojojosmart "One video has convinced you that ther is no God? Yikes- I fear for all the ill-educated generation to come."
One 2000 year old book convinced you that the Earth was 6000 years old. You are right to fear the ill educated. How do you look in a mirror without screaming. (hint you're one of them).
@jojojosmart. A brief summary of how wrong you are at so many things.
You cannot get to grips with basic scientific terminology, You don't understand the difference between unsubstantiated claims in the bible and verifiable scientific evidence. You fail to grasp the meaning of the word prove. You have a ridiculous sense of time-scale. You don't know what an Uncle is. You repeat things you know to be false or disproven. You make claims without proof, then say it is another's job to find it...
@jojojosmart ... You think that bible quotes can be used as evidence. You think that science can prove your god. You claim the bible is the word of god but only because it says it its. I think circular means spherical. You think christianity is "the truth. You say christianity is peaceful and loving. You have not yet answered a single question that ANYONE has asked you. You are deaf, dumb and blind.
What a clever little monkey you are.
I think that's a pretty good summary. Prove me wrong.
@jojojosmart Oh and you think that light = good and dark = evil. A black and white take on the world. This is also utter rubbish. Light and dark =/= good and evil. They are mutually exclusive.
@jojojosmart " you can't tell the difference between dark and light or truth and evil because you have no definition for either one."
Light and Dark are easy to tell apart. What I said, which you have happily taken out of context, is that you have confused light and dark with good and evil. Light and Dark are physical properties. Good and evil are subjective (mostly) e.g You think homosexuality is evil (which it most certainly isn't) you see blind faith as good, which it most certainly isn't.
@Gibbons3457 --- In your eyes, because you ast as your own judge and god, good and evil are subjective. You might think murder is evil, but a killer thinks it's fine in his subjective eyes. But with God, He clearly gives us the defining line between good and evil- right and wrong- truth and lies. Are you gay? Jesus Christ will accept you just as you are- but Once He starts doing a work in you heart and life He will make any changes for good in your life. Merry CHRISTmas.
@jojojosmart Because it's Christmas and I'm far too busy eating and opening presents for any of this Jesus Christ bullshit, so to be blunt.
Christmas is as much a chirstian festival as Quorn is meat.
You are without a doubt so far receded into your own mind, that anything you see MUST be related to god. You fear life without god and criticise anyone who dares to live without an unprovable and supposedly all powerful entity running their life for them. This is your weakness not your strength
@Gibbons3457 -- It's a shame to be celebrating and not even understand what you are celebrating or why you are celebrating. Like the thought of aetheism and evolution, meaningless. Eat , drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die. The Lord is my strength. With Him , nothing is impossible. He gives eternal life. His strength is unlimited. Today, around the world millions are celebrating His birth. I know it irritates you, but you have to deal with the truth at some point in you life.
@jojojosmart " Like the thought of aetheism and evolution, meaningless. " Meaningless? Is that what you think of humanity. That our existence is meaningless. That not believing is meaningless, not choosing to accept your version of a story told in so many ways. Every child is born atheist, YOU were born atheist. So now according to you every child in the WORLD is pointless. Sanity skipped you didn't it.
Your choice to believe does't annoy me. What does, is that you try to stop advancement.
@Gibbons3457 --- Every child is given the light of creation, the light of conscience, and soon the gospel will be preached into all nations and everyone will have been given the light of Christ. Those who refuse to even hear the gospel or reject the light are making a decision against God and His plan of salvation. I'm not trying to stop advancement, I'm pushing for the advancement of science, truth and the gospel.
It is not a decision to reject God, it is the natural human state. Until you can find some credible evidence then I won't accept "God" any more than I accept belief in lepracorns. And advancement of "truth" and "Gospel" are contradictions, because the Gospels are as false as any other religious holy book, or "Harry Potter" In the word's of Hawkins "Science will win eventually."
@atheism616 -- The reason for rejection of Jesus Christ is not because the facts aren't there to proove it- it is because of the hardness of the heart.
@atheism616 --- The truth may sound arrogant to the non-believing , but the truth is narrow and has no room for subjective opinions. Otherwise, it would be just the same political correctness you are using to form your opinions. Anything goes. Merry CHRISTmas. Jesus Christ- the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
And surely saying "Anything goes" is your attempt at political correctness? I'm not saying that some things shouldn't go, but isn't it hypocritical of you to say "anything goes" whilst condemning abortion?
@atheism616 --- You still can't determine when a child has a conscience, because then after that point you would have to call abortion murder. So anything goes. No truth.
@jojojosmart "You still can't determine when a child has a conscience, because then after that point you would have to call abortion murder. So anything goes. No truth."
Can you stop using the term "you" as referring to us as all atheists or all scientists. We each have personal differences (no matter how small)
Professional biologists are as close to certain when a baby has gained conscience and so can accurately assess and control abortions so that conscious babies are not killed. Capiche?
@Gibbons3457 Abortion clinics are not regulated by when a conscience is formed. It has no relevance to the killers. Also, did you watch 60 minutes this week. An interesting story about blood vessels showing up in dinosaur bones who supposedly have been gone for 60 million years,MMMMMMMM?
@jojojosmart "... Also, did you watch 60 minutes this week. An interesting story about blood vessels showing up in dinosaur bones who supposedly have been gone for 60 million years,MMMMMMMM?"
Or maybe you just can't get your head around science and so only pick up the things that you want to hear. It is rare but it is possible to find organic tissue inside fossils. Science is already aware of it. This is nothing new and it doesn't support special creation (As you seem to be implying).
@Gibbons3457 --- One interesting fact does not conclusively prove creation, but when you deny hundreds of obvioust truths pointing to creation or at least showing the immpossibility of evolution, you really should question the theory.
@jojojosmart "One interesting fact does not conclusively prove creation, but when you deny hundreds of obvioust truths pointing to creation or at least showing the immpossibility of evolution, you really should question the theory."
There are no facts about creation. It is why you always generalise. You never give specifics. You avoid answering, by repeating the same old avoidance manoeuvre. At first I asked you for 20 pieces of verifiable evidence. You refuse, so I asked for 3 then 1.
@Gibbons3457 --- There are no facts about evolution- just generalizations and assumptions that keep changing as the truth overrides them. You have no verifiable evidence.
@jojojosmart " There are no facts about evolution" So the fossil record, genetics and the entire world of medicine. They are all guesses and generalisations. Try saying that to the doctors.
" that keep changing as the truth overrides them."
Yeah because science is self correcting, it updates as time goes on. Just because you think that change is bad because your religion is dogmatic. Science changes small things within a theory, the theory in it'self never does, it becomes more accurate.
@Gibbons3457 --- You are right -- science is self correcting. With more and more research, it gets closer to coming to God's truth. One day , it might catch up to God.
@jojojosmart "You are right -- science is self correcting. With more and more research, it gets closer to coming to God's truth. One day , it might catch up to God."
We might catch a god, but your god didn't even qualify, it got left behind when it claimed that man was specially "created" . So far however the science with all it's self correcting has disproven so much of the bible that you are simply going to get left behind (intellectually) and the worst bit. You won't even realise.
@jojojosmart "Repent and turn your heart to Jesus Christ or you may be left behind on the day of rapture." Well it's missed it's due date many times before, so I'm not to worried. Have fun waiting though.
Your comment also kind of proves what I mean by being left behind intellectually and not realising. You are still ranting about an old book, which has got so much wrong it's as fictional as the Lord of the Rings or the Chronicles of Narniah.
"Repent and turn your heart to Jesus Christ or you may be left behind on the day of rapture"
Just remember, Darwin died at a comfortable old age as a family man and respected British scientist, and Jesus died slowly and painfully in his thirties an unmarried childless virgin weirdo (with twelve possible male boyfriends) executed as a traitor by the state at the request of his own people.
No, I don't think I'll "turn my heart" to such a loser.
@mosquitobight -- you got some of the folklore but the gospel of Jesus Christ is to put your focus not the temporal, but the eternal. Where your treasure is there your heart will be also. Also , Jesus was not a traitor. He was accused of blaspheme, for claiming the truth that He was God in the flesh. The people then, like you now didn't believe Him.
@jojojosmart I've noticed you are ignoring the comments that either ask you for proof or confront you with too much science and evidence for you to try and come up with an ignorant counter. Instead you reply to the more vague comments or those about Jesus as if that makes the other comments just disappear.
@Gibbons3457 --- Please show any proof of any transitional species. There are none and the fossil record shows none. Science proves the absurdity of evolution.
@jojojosmart Well let's go easy on you with an old favourite and one you've heard many times.
Dinosaurs to birds. It starts with Theropods more specifically Maniraptors, which include later forms (and favourites) such as Velociraptor and Oviraptor (both of which had feathers) though these are not precursors to birds they are related to birds like we are to gibbons (distant cousins, fyi). Now the Earliest transitional form, which you'll know very well is the Jurassic dinosaur Archaeopteryx...
. Other Mesozoic birds include the Confuciusornis, the Enantiornithes, Yanornis, Ichthyornis, Gansus, and the Hesperornithiformes - a group of flightless divers. These all (though some are not direct) ancestors to modern birds. The recently discovered dromaeosaur Cryptovolans (may be a Microraptor) was capable of powered flight, possessed a sternal keel and had ribs with uncinate processes. In fact, Cryptovolans makes a better "bird" than Archaeopteryx...
...Some paleontologists have suggested that dromaeosaurs are actually basal birds whose larger members are secondarily flightless, i.e. that dromaeosaurs evolved from birds and not the other way around. Evidence for this hypothesis is currently inconclusive however. (Just thought you'd like to know)
So you've got plenty of transitions for just this transition.
What evidence have you got for your god or the genesis account or the great flood?
@jojojosmart "We came from apes or apes came from humans" Neither, that's like asking if mammals came from humans or if humans came from mammals or asking for a town half way between LA and California. Humans didn't come from apes we are apes right now. We evolved from a species of ape, and I've shown you the full line down to Australopithecus Afrerensis because after that you'd get lost in all the complicated names.
@Gibbons3457 --- Try your search beyond aferensis. You didn't put enough effort into it to really understand that we are close to apes, but not having a common ancestor.
@jojojosmart "You didn't put enough effort into it to really understand that we are close to apes, but not having a common ancestor."
We aren't close to Apes, We ARE apes right now. This isn't some new "evolutionist" thing, a god loving creation believing scientist in the 1700's worked out what a primate was and we are one. No exceptions. We are Apes, Primates, Mammals, Animals. We are part of nature not something super naturally special.
@jojojosmart " You didn't put enough effort into it to really understand that we are close to apes"
We aren't close to apes, We ARE Apes right now. Humans are Apes, Primates, Mammals, Animals. This isn't something new. It was first noted by a creation accepting, god believing, scientist in the 17th century.
We aren't close to apes, We ARE Apes right now. Humans are Apes, Primates, Mammals, Animals. This isn't something new. It was first noted by a creation accepting, god believing, scientist in the 17th century.
@jojojosmart You want evidence for evolution. Now unless a god deliberately wanted to trick us that everything evolved.
The Phylogenetic tree of life is plainly evident from the bottom up to any objective observer who dares to compare the anatomy different sets of collective life forms. But it can be just as objectively doubley confirmed from the top down when re-examined genetically. This is why it is referred to as a twin nested Hierarchy. It can also be further supported...
... Biochemically, Chronologically in geology and developmentally in embryology. Why should that be? (You know there is only one answer) And how do creationists (you) explain how it is that every single thing fits into all these daughter sets, within parent groups, Each being derived according to apparently inherited traits. You don't even try to explain or anything else, you don't because you can't. Evolution is the only way to explain any of this and it explains it all.
@jojojosmart There are countless "facts", which can be evidence, used to refine and/or teach us more about the specifics within the broader evolutionary model. Evolution is also consistent in making predictions about facts and where to find them. The level of evidence that evolution happened at all is actually stronger and endlessly more abundant than a murder crime scene full of all the typical evidence used to convict someone to death. And the amount of evidence for it never stops piling up.
@jbass02 --- The evidence for creation continues to pile up also. Except the ideas for creation don't continue to change as do the ideas imagined by evolutionists. They've tried punctuated equilibrium, hopeful monster, etc. The theories continue to come and change as more truth toward creation is proven.
@jojojosmart "The evidence for creation continues to pile up ..." Then show some of the pile so that we can see it. All you are doing is making an unsubstantiated claim, you HAVE to provide evidence. You not anyone else.
@Gibbons3457 - The pile of evidence is God's creation you see everyday and ignore. All the evidence you need beyond that is available through seeking out the truth through numerous fields of study. Choose whatever field of research to study this topic and you will find the truth.
@jojojosmart "The pile of evidence is God's creation you see everyday and ignore."
And yet YOU refuse to enlighten me by providing it when I ask you to. You make this claim so many times I'm beginning to think you are just making it up. Prove me wrong. By actually showing me evidence. I've asked many times. Why haven't you shown it me. If it is so obvious surely can't take very long to find something conclusive.
@jojojosmart "Choose whatever field of research to study this topic and you will find the truth."
You mean all those sciences like astronomy, geology, biology, chemistry and physics which have all separately found evidence all supporting a naturally occurring universe, an old Earth, the theories of gravity, evolution and electricity. Well if they lead to the "truth", then the bible must be as far from the "truth" as physically possible.
@jojojosmart "the evidence is certainly piling up. Millions of fossils-- and not one 'transitional species' fossil in the whole bunch." What do you think a transitional species looks like. Are you thinking Crocoduck or something different. I recommend looking up the scientific explanation.
" the evidence is certainly piling up. Millions of fossils-- and not one transitional species fossil in the whole bunch." What do you think a transitional species looks like? Are you thinking Crocoduck or something different? I recommend looking up the scientific explanation.
@jojojosmart The transitional records of some planktonic fossils are very smooth, but for large animals it will never be seamless (although there are some good ones- e.g. horses). But whats more interesting is that evolution makes specific predictions about fossils such as where to look for them -and what they will look like- *before* they are found. These predictions are confirmed over and over; such as the position of the nose in the fossils representing whale ancestry.
@jbass02 --- We have millions of fossils from millions of years ago that are exactly like the same species of living animals today. No changes whatsoever. and no 'transitional' species.
@jojojosmart Yes, some species exhibit stasis over millions of years. Speciation also occurs by any definition of the word proof. One of many examples: If the ancestors of whales and dolphins were not land dwelling, then why is their closest living genetic match the hippo? Why do we find fossils that represent their logical transition from land to water? Why do today's whales have vestigial leg and pelvis remnants in their bodies? And why do they still have the genetic relics for legs?
@jojojosmart Yes they are separate species; and hippos never turned into whales or vice versa. The semi-aquatic ancestor of both whales and hippos split from other even-toed ungulates around 60 million years ago, and this is revealed using several lines of evidence (fossils, DNA, etc). Fast forward 60 million years and there are 80 different species of cetaceans in world today. So yes, speciation does occur. If it didn't genomes wouldn't reveal such a rich ancestral history.
@jojojosmart " Whales and hippos never split from a common ancestor. " I'm sorry, but genetics and comparative morphology in fossils would beg to differ.
@jojojosmart You're right again. You're catching on. If you followed back the ancestry of whales far enough you would eventually run into 4 legged mammals who could walk on land and were likely good swimmers. Same for the hippo. You'd have to go back in time even further to find the single ancestor of them all, which looked nothing like a whale or a hippo.
@jojojosmart " A close genetic match is no match at all. They are separate species and do not 'evolve' into another species." So you aren't closely related to your parents or cousins or second cousins. That's all evolution is. Variation in Allele frequency. A close genetic match is very much a solid piece of evidence for evolution. It shows related species. It also leaves the Genesis story in tatters.
if you actually took the time to judge your morality against strict definitions instead of heuristics it would be a disaster because there are always special cases. george bush believed in black and white morality which is why as governer he had a mentally retarded person executed
@LeopardFrogPilboxhat -- If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus Christ, and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him will NOT perish but HAVE everlasting life. Merry CHRISTmas.
@jojojosmart " And Jesus said, "Follow me, and i will make you fishers of men." "Man does not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God." " Well sure man can't live on bread alone. Man needs fruit and veg. Not to mention meat, lovely meat. God isn't needed for a healthy diet.
@jojojosmart " You have done the same- shown no proof for evolution other than first making assumptions and then coming up with a theory to fit your assumptions."
You are posting on a video called Proof of Evolution: Part 3 (Atavisms and Fossils). That's verifiable evidence. You have chosen to ignore it without even checking to see if it is true or not.
Now go and get the proof you claimed or admit that you are just making it up. You are a coward and you know it.
@jojojosmart " You have done the same- shown no proof for evolution other than first making assumptions and then coming up with a theory to fit your assumptions."
So now you're deaf and blind as well as ignorant. You are posting on a video called Proof of Evolution: Part 3 (Atavisms and Fossils). That's verifiable evidence.
Now go and get the proof you claimed or admit that you are just making it up. You are a coward and you know it.
@jojojosmart " You have done the same- shown no proof for evolution other than first making assumptions and then coming up with a theory to fit your assumptions."
So now you're deaf and blind as well as ignorant. You are posting on a video called Proof of Evolution - Part 3 (Atavisms and Fossils). That's verifiable evidence. Now go and get the proof you claimed or admit that you are just making it up. You are a coward and you know it.
@jojojosmart Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate and hate, leads to suffering. Yoda has never said truer words.
Seriously though, all fear does is close the minds of all who feel it's sting. You are beyond "salvation" the moment you fear an all loving being. Or isn't your god all loving? If it isn't the bible is wrong. Again.
@Gibbons3457 -- you hate me because of myu love for the truth, don't you? In fact, you probably wish me to suffer. Well, Christ suffered because of the people's hatred for the truth also. in fact, He was crucifed for no reason other than the hatred of those who wanted Him dead. But He conquered death and rose from the dead. Amen..
@jojojosmart I don't hate you. I pity your fear, I abhor your deliberate ignorance but I do not hate you. Nor do I want you to suffer, why would I? What would that achieve. You want me to suffer, you've said so many times that I AM going to hell. So I'd practise what you preach if I were you, like actually look for truth.
@Gibbons3457 -- I , like God am not willing that any should perish, but come to repentence and ask for God's free gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
@jojojosmart You are exactly like your god. A xenophobic hippocrite who demands to be accepted without proof or evidence and will hand out threats of pain and a fate worse than death to any and all who dare to defy you. An all loving being could NEVER demand anything nor could it torture the innocent or even think a bad thought. Your god should be treated with contempt for it's immoral and unjust need for control and blind faith. It does nothing good for anyone. You are proof of that.
@Gibbons3457 -- You are proof that God gives anyone free will to choose their own path that leads to destruction. He even allows you to decieve yourself into beliving your own theology.
@jojojosmart "You are proof that God gives anyone free will to choose their own path that leads to destruction. He even allows you to decieve yourself into beliving your own theology" Wrong.
@jojojosmart Is the Earth flat? Do you believe the Bible when it says the Earth is flat? (Isaiah 40:22.) Even you know this is wrong. But the bible says it, so to you it must be true as the bible is the "infallible word of god"
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jw2327 3 weeks ago
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jw2327 3 weeks ago
What is really sad is how creationists can't bear to reject logic anymore, hence come up with opinions that suggests god made creatures evolve...which ofcourse has no specific mention in the bible (like many other things). Then again I can't expect much, people have been changing and editing these religious texts over centuries to their liking and believe they are in the right. Just shows how much of a joke it is.....
Silversong88 1 month ago
@Silversong88 no kidding. the reason why god ever existed is because they were used to explain what we could not understand. now that we have the means of understanding the mysteries of life, gods are unnecessary. i don't get why people cling to it.
cavemantiger 1 month ago
Creationism does NOT say that everything was created at the exact same time. Is he talking about the Bible? The Koran? Deism?.....Creationism says different things depending on the creationist's God prospective.....don't be afraid...just say....CHRISTIANS :)
TiberiusDominus 1 month ago
@TiberiusDominus Actually not at all. Creationism specifically covers Christianity, Islam and Judaism. There are no distinct differences with the three religions as to creation because they all derive from the SAME book - Torah. it is pointless to say just Christian. And yes creationism says everything was created in seven days - and sea and land animals were created in the 5th and 6th day...And it says nothing about birds giving birth to other 'kinds of birds'. that is a poor attempt.
Silversong88 1 month ago
Lol the bible does say that animals were created in present form. However what Evolutionists forget to do is actually read it. The bible says that animals will give offspring according to their kind. Which means that birds will have offspring of other 'kinds of birds' and dogs will give offspring of other 'kinds of dogs'. This video wasn't enlightening. Please make one simply about the Macro-evolution containing 'Monkey to man' evidence....thanks!
TiberiusDominus 1 month ago
@TiberiusDominus your example would disprove evolution. if a chicken mated with a chicken and laid a peacock evolution would be disproven. your statement is wrong. sorry.
if you watche dhis first and second video your questions would be answered.
cavemantiger 1 month ago
Where is there evidence of whales with legs?
CohibaSkeeza 2 months ago
@CohibaSkeeza
talkorigins . org/indexcc/CC/CC216_1 . html
TheZooCrew 2 months ago
can u explain at the irreducible complexity with wht u said
thinkmanworld 3 months ago
didt mean, that, the height of fossils mean anythig to do with the say of creation
thinkmanworld 3 months ago
@donexodus i just wondered for example creationists bacteria ,bacteria flogelum (i dont remember its name) has simple anccestors or not?
esraretin 3 months ago
DonExodus2, you need to place some acoustic foam on your microphone. Way to many huffs and puffs striking the mic.
ladefreakndah 4 months ago
Easy guys, evolution happens. That settles it.
ItsEasyIfYouThink 5 months ago
@nakedmambo NEVER ACCUSE ME OF LYING. It's in the video you dip wad. "An atavism is an evolutionary throwback... Which had disappeared generations ago." THAT'S A BACKWARDS STEP. I was repeating what was so stupidly used in the video as PROOF of Darwinian evolution! Idiot.
dinopad10 5 months ago
@dinopad10 lolumad
BackInTheCage 4 months ago
@stantheman42069 you're not up with the convo... I'm NOT THE ONE WHO SAID IT'S A BACKWARDS STEP.
dinopad10 5 months ago
@dinopad10 Why are you lying? You clearly stated, a few comments back, that: "atavisms are a backward step in evolution".
nakedmambo 5 months ago
How could one be so willfully ignorant to deny evolution?
MW2Addiction 5 months ago 2
@flypaper4weirdos What the he'll are YOU talking about?!? I didn't say anything about an "end goal" for evolution, you retard!
dinopad10 5 months ago
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god already said that snakes used to have limbs and he took them away in genesis, and as for the hip bones those are needed to keep the tail moving vertically with efficiency, its not from evolution its needed to survive. if it did evolve from a land animal once the hips could not support them to walk on land, the hips would still be to large the pelvis to large and the tail wich would result in crushing the pelvis and bring them to mass extinction. the end, your proof is jus misconseptions.
samster817 5 months ago
Atavisms are a backwards step in evolution... Proof for evolution??? A BACKWARDS step?!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
dinopad10 6 months ago
@dinopad10
They're evolutionary throwbacks you retard *facepalm* There is no 'end goal' for evolution, what the hell are you talking about?? You keep laughing, just understand we're all laughing at you, not with you.
flypaper4weirdos 5 months ago
@dinopad10 explain how this is a backwards step it just old gene being turned back on temporarily and how does intelligent design explain this god was telling a joke.
stantheman42069 5 months ago
Thanks mate - fantastic series - watched them all! We owe you a debt of gratitude for your time and expertese.
aden302000 6 months ago
Geese do have tiny little teeth.. I remember as a child I was literally freaked out when I tried to touch a small baby goose..I won't forget how the mother open it's beck hissing at me, and I could see those small tiny teeth..
EuropeanGuy87 7 months ago
if creationsim is true, why would a god make dolphins breathe air? That must be such a pain in the ass. why not give them gills? Yea I'd love to stay and chat bro but i breathe air for some reason. does god hate dolphins?
spatch8806 8 months ago
@spatch8806 Yeah, even more so, it seems he hates us as well, all those primitives in the bible say things like "how wonderful your creation, god!" yet there are animals with better parts then us, our eye is poorly constructed, we have a useless appendix that randomly explodes and kills us, there are like 5 incredibly lethal bacterias that almost lead us into extinction, dozens of times. God was loving back then, but now we know animals are better in certain ways, he's hates us now whata cop out
halflifefan84 8 months ago
Hi - I'm interested in the link mentioned at 4:35 - but it's been blocked unfortunately.
AndyWhite007 8 months ago
you cant prove to them that they are wrong. They will either just say, no, this isnt true, or say, well this is how god did it.
gulbirk 9 months ago
The inner ear also shrinking also provided better tollerance to the acrobatic movements required to escape prediters in the water. With less fluid trveling through the inner ear marrine mammles don't get as dissoriented while swimming.
f00tstep 9 months ago
here's a thought why would the ancient sumerians drawing depictions of superior beings,in what looked like crafts. rather than the apes and neanderthals that they evolved from. Why and how did they obtain intelligence from star constellations to astronomical geometry that apparently we only worked out this century. Also the bible is interpreted a whole lot different in hebrew and is a lot more significant to astrology.Nothings black or white here so many questions unanswered.
olnusdecimus 9 months ago
Evolution cant be proven without a fossil record. Hence the missing link.
NOISLAMINUSA 9 months ago
@NOISLAMINUSA Except that we have a fossil record and many transitional fossils. :)
Drgamedood 9 months ago
@NOISLAMINUSA Eosimias sinensis, the Aegyptopithecus zeuxis, Proconsul africanus, Afropithecus turkanensis, Turkanapithecus kalakolensis, Sivapithecus indicus, hecus bambolii, Lufengpithecus lufengensis, Sahelanthropus tchadensis, Orrorin tugenensis, Ardipithecus ramidus, Australopithecus afarensis, Kenyanthropus platyops, Australopithecus afarensis, Australopithecus bahrelghazali, lopithecus africanus, Paranthropus aethiopicus, Homo Erectus and Homo Habilis.
What do you think is 'missing'?
gamesbok 4 months ago
@NoriDavis
You cannot empirically take DNA from a crime scene and say it belongs to the criminal. That is a theory, or an assumption . . . not a fact. You can't PROVE that the DNA belongs to the criminal, let alone that he was actually there. Forensics is closer to religion than science.
coltharpnicholas 10 months ago
@coltharpnicholas Woah, hold yer horses there, buddy. I just so happen to be a forensic scientist. DNA can be linked to an individual. The only reason we don't usually say it's definitive, is because DNA can be planted. This is why we talk in scales of probability (Probable, not so probably, very probable, etc). Forensic scientists really value biological evidence for this reason, it can be linked to an individual, other then say, shoeprints, as the shoes could have been worn by anyone.
omgwtfbbqxD 2 months ago
@coltharpnicholas And I'll have you know forensic scientists never make assumptions like that. Also, it's not a theory. If your DNA is a match, it means it belongs to that person. You might be a victim of the "CSI-effect", so I don't blame you for your misunderstanding. But don't liken forensic science to religion. That's just wrong, seriously.
omgwtfbbqxD 2 months ago
@omgwtfbbqxD I was responding to a comment that claimed that you cannot PROVE that one fossil evolved into the other. That may be correct . . . but we can make reasonable inferences. The same is true of crime scene forensics: there's a chance (however miniscule) that the DNA at a crime scene could have just randomly assembled.
coltharpnicholas 2 months ago
@coltharpnicholas No, especially not DNA with the same profile as the defendant or victim. As a forensic scientist, I'd like to think I know this. There are many things to take into account when handling DNA, like contamination, or body fluids from several people mixed together etc, but DNA does not just randomly assemble, it can't. But I don't know about the fossil record. Just trying to clear up your misunderstanding about forensics :)
omgwtfbbqxD 2 months ago
@omgwtfbbqxD According to quantum physics, anything can spontaneously assemble. The chances of this happening are beyond miniscule, but it is a possibility.
Furthermore, we don't know *everything*. It's possible there's a natural process that randomly assembles DNA. But given what we know, when we find DNA, we can reasonably infer that it came from someone.
coltharpnicholas 2 months ago
@coltharpnicholas Sure I'll agree that there might be an unknown process that randomly forms DNA, but if there were such a process the odds of the profile matching that of any human is miniscule. And yeah things can spontaneously assemble, just like you said, but I think that's thermodynamics and not quantum physics, and the odds are so miniscule it just doesn't happen, like the wind on the beach putting together a sandcastle.
omgwtfbbqxD 2 months ago
@omgwtfbbqxD actually there are interesting findings as to DNA fragments forming under lightning conditions. The wind on the beach putting a sandcastle together is not really a good example. Take these example. Finding random arrangement of clouds, rocks mountains etc that resemble a penis, face, bird etc.. happens all the time. But that does not equate to quantum randomness.
Silversong88 1 month ago
@omgwtfbbqxD I agree. Similarly, if there are two fossils with clear similarities, located in similar places and dated to times near each other, then the odds that these fossils are evolutionarily unrelated are so small as to be ignored. Hypothetically, they could be completely unrelated, but that kind of thing simply doesn't happen.
coltharpnicholas 1 month ago
You cannot empirically take any two fossils and say they are linked. That is a theory, or an assumption...not a fact. you can't prove that any of those specimens bore young, let alone that those young became a different species. Darwin's theory is closer to religion than scientific fact brother man. You're more than welcome to practice your religion...but don't call it science:)
NoriDavis 11 months ago
He is wrong about the "fossil record" with creationism
kooooolmatt 11 months ago
we probably came from rats because rats were the first mammals alive and were much more bigger than the regular rat today. Anyway, since monkeys and us have a common ancestor (Rats) that explains why we have... tails
FullOfTuna 11 months ago
Well explained. Can we somehow get all the Youtube creationist extremists to watch this three part piece on evolution? I don't possibly see how anyone with even a lick of intelligence can watch this and still claim creation to be their absolute truth? Please open you minds to the possibility. Love your god all you want, but don't deny that evolution is an ongoing fact on planet Earth.
GrandmasterBBC 11 months ago
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@Volume709Returns Only gay little bitches like yourself would watch this!
Volume709returnssux 1 year ago
@Volume709Returns Dumbass little bitch!
Goosefucker1 1 year ago
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@Volume709Returns Only a stupid faggot like you would watch this, TROLL!
Volume709returnssux 1 year ago
Principles of evolution include difference, overpopulation, competition etc., etc.
Theories of evolution include Lamarckian evolution, natural selection, neo-darwinism etc.
can someone or everyone help me get all/some of the theories and principles please.
hopkin104 1 year ago
@jojojosmart
There are Tyrannosaurs today? What about Archaeopteryx? Dinofelis? Deinotherium? Scutosaurus? Mososaurs? Hyaenodon? Basilosaurus? Dimetrodon?
Yeah species today are EXACTLY the same as those in the past. *sarcasm*.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
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@jojojosmart
''Fossils... that are exactly like the same species of living animals today.''
There are Tyrannosaurs today? What about Archaeopteryx? Dinofelis? Deinotherium? Scutosaurus? Mososaurs? Hyaenodon? Basilosaurus? Dimetrodon?
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@jojojosmart What do you think a transitional species looks like? Are you thinking Crocoduck or something different? I recommend looking up the scientific explanation.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart They twist scientific discoveries, they deliberately falsify claims made by scientists and make up the most insane stories to make people like you question the science. Then they seek to use this to throw their own ideas into the mix. Intelligent design. Well even if evolution suddenly and inexplicably failed and a new theory was postulated and put forward it certainly wouldn't be ID. Why? Because ID has been proven wrong already. How could that be? Watch the video above...
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457... That video is all you should need to accept evolution. Why you ask? Because everything that is said in that video can be verified. It can be tested. Yes I know you hate the testing techniques but unfortunately for you they actually work. Those techniques wouldn't be used if they didn't. What you'll have to understand is that science is a self correcting process. It changes not because it is wrong but because it is trying to be right. It aims to become more accurate...
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@jojojosmart ...Now I know that confuses you. Correcting? I know you think you know EVERYTHING because of the bible. But you have been taught that the bible MUST be right and you just cannot live without it being true. Well sorry but you'll just have to get over it. Throughout my time conversing with you on youtube you have done nothing but quote the bible, ask questions (which have been answered), ignore answers and dodge any and all questions asked. This shows me that you are a coward...
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@jojojosmart ... A coward and a wilfully ignorant man. I ask now that you find and show me IRREFUTABLE and PROVABLE evidence of your god. Not something subjective or something in the bible. Not figures on how many people believe in your god and most certainly not the old line "You go find it, it's that obvious". The ball's in your court. It's your turn to move. Prove to me that your god and that the bible is correct. Until you do, NOTHING you say has any meaning or any weight. Good luck.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 --- YOu can not show me any irrefutable or provable evidence that man evolved from apes or that apes evolved from man if that is the new 180 degree turn you have made in your theory. Merry CHRISTmas.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart
Of course I can't, because that's not what evolution says, evolution states that man and apes had a common ancestor, how you fail to accept this is proof of either you're stupidity or your indoctrination. And signing "Merry CHRISTmas" makes you sound either idiotic or mildly OCD, just because it has the word "christ" isn't proof of God because the holiday didn't exist until 400 years after his death.
atheism616 1 year ago
@atheism616 Even though it is the day after CHRISTmas, I'll say Merry CHRISTmas again because it isn't just one day,. It is a celebration that God took on human flesh and became one of us to show us the way. You can turn your head from Jesus Christ , but He still died for your sins and is willing to give you the free gift of eternal life if you are willing to repent and recieve His salvation.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart
Hey it's not like you celebrate his birth on the right day anyway so what's a day after the non-birth of "Christ." Your God is a myth started from fear of death, a lack of knowledge and later used to control the masses, accept it.
atheism616 1 year ago
@atheism616 -- Jesus Christ is my only Lord and savior. I don't allow the propaganda and materialism of the world make my opinions of truth. Merry CHRISTmas.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart
All that Christianity is, is propaganda. And in what way are my opinions based on political correctness, I would like to know how you've come to this ridiculous conclusion? And surely "truth" itself is subjective? One person sees the same set of events completely differently to the other side. However when it comes to science I agree that the truth is narrow, but biblical interpretation can be very different, I think there is a hilarious Monty Python sketch about this.
atheism616 1 year ago
@atheism616 --- Many men see things different and many have their own interpretations. It doesn't matter how each sees it, because it doesn't change the truth. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today , and forever. The truth doesn't change like theories of evolution. Merry CHRISTmas
jojojosmart 1 year ago
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@atheism616 --- Many men see things different and many have their own interpretations. It doesn't matter how each sees it, because it doesn't change the truth. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today , and forever. The truth doesn't change like theories of evolution. Merry CHRISTmas
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart
In fact the first Gospel didn't mention Jesus' birth, suggesting that either the disciples didn't know about Christ's birth, or just didn't care. That is probably where the link between Christian and countless other pagan religions appears, because they made it up to create the illusion of divinity. An illusion so thick that 2000 yrs after a first world country still believes in a talking snake over evolution. Religion poisons minds to rejecting logic in favour of ancient myths.
atheism616 1 year ago
@atheism616 -- Jesus birth was foretold 700 years before by the prophet Isaiah.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart
A person was "prophesied," not Jesus. Well I can make a prediction that in another 700 years another child will be born out of wedlock and the mother will claim supernatural causes. And again you can't use the bible to support the bible, how can you not understand this? Jesus conformed to the prophecy, not the other way round, in fact early Gospels didn't claim that he was the son of God, just another prophet, but these were omitted to make christianity more credible.
atheism616 1 year ago
@atheism616 -- The gospels all confirm that Jesus is the Son of God. Read them for yourself. Jesus fullfilled the prophecies of the old testament. Not by coincidence or by conforming to them. No one could possibly orchestrate where they would be born, when they would be born, and how their life would play out except God Himself. Merry CHRISTmas
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart "YOu can not show me any irrefutable or provable evidence that man evolved from apes or that apes evolved from man if that is the new 180 degree turn you have made in your theory. Merry CHRISTmas."
Apes evolved from man? Now you've lost it. (like you ever had it).
Actually I can show you refutable evidence that man and the other great apes (because man is still an ape) share a common ancestor, it's called your chromosomes and they prove evolution.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 -- The only dodging being done here is you dodging the truth of Jesus Christ. Merry CHRISTmas.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
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@jojojosmart " The only dodging being done here is you dodging the truth of Jesus Christ. Merry CHRISTmas."
What's to dodge? All you've done is recite bible quotes which you can't even prove were written by who you say they are written by. That and said Merry Christmas repeatedly, as if you suffer from OCD.
I however have given links to 3 lists of transitional fossils and the video above (and the others in the series) have given countless testable sources for proof. Ignore them you have.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 -- Evolution has to change if their goal is truth, because they are a long way off from the truth.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 -- One video has convinced you that ther is no God? Yikes- I fear for all the ill-educated generation to come.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
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@jojojosmart "One video has convinced you that ther is no God? Yikes- I fear for all the ill-educated generation to come."
One 2000 year old book convinced you that the Earth was 6000 years old. You are right to fear the ill educated. How do you look in a mirror without screaming. (hint you're one of them).
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@jojojosmart. A brief summary of how wrong you are at so many things.
You cannot get to grips with basic scientific terminology, You don't understand the difference between unsubstantiated claims in the bible and verifiable scientific evidence. You fail to grasp the meaning of the word prove. You have a ridiculous sense of time-scale. You don't know what an Uncle is. You repeat things you know to be false or disproven. You make claims without proof, then say it is another's job to find it...
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@jojojosmart ... You think that bible quotes can be used as evidence. You think that science can prove your god. You claim the bible is the word of god but only because it says it its. I think circular means spherical. You think christianity is "the truth. You say christianity is peaceful and loving. You have not yet answered a single question that ANYONE has asked you. You are deaf, dumb and blind.
What a clever little monkey you are.
I think that's a pretty good summary. Prove me wrong.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@jojojosmart Oh and you think that light = good and dark = evil. A black and white take on the world. This is also utter rubbish. Light and dark =/= good and evil. They are mutually exclusive.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 -- you can't tell the difference between dark and light or truth and evil because you have no definition for either one.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart " you can't tell the difference between dark and light or truth and evil because you have no definition for either one."
Light and Dark are easy to tell apart. What I said, which you have happily taken out of context, is that you have confused light and dark with good and evil. Light and Dark are physical properties. Good and evil are subjective (mostly) e.g You think homosexuality is evil (which it most certainly isn't) you see blind faith as good, which it most certainly isn't.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 --- In your eyes, because you ast as your own judge and god, good and evil are subjective. You might think murder is evil, but a killer thinks it's fine in his subjective eyes. But with God, He clearly gives us the defining line between good and evil- right and wrong- truth and lies. Are you gay? Jesus Christ will accept you just as you are- but Once He starts doing a work in you heart and life He will make any changes for good in your life. Merry CHRISTmas.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart Because it's Christmas and I'm far too busy eating and opening presents for any of this Jesus Christ bullshit, so to be blunt.
Christmas is as much a chirstian festival as Quorn is meat.
You are without a doubt so far receded into your own mind, that anything you see MUST be related to god. You fear life without god and criticise anyone who dares to live without an unprovable and supposedly all powerful entity running their life for them. This is your weakness not your strength
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 -- It's a shame to be celebrating and not even understand what you are celebrating or why you are celebrating. Like the thought of aetheism and evolution, meaningless. Eat , drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die. The Lord is my strength. With Him , nothing is impossible. He gives eternal life. His strength is unlimited. Today, around the world millions are celebrating His birth. I know it irritates you, but you have to deal with the truth at some point in you life.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart " Like the thought of aetheism and evolution, meaningless. " Meaningless? Is that what you think of humanity. That our existence is meaningless. That not believing is meaningless, not choosing to accept your version of a story told in so many ways. Every child is born atheist, YOU were born atheist. So now according to you every child in the WORLD is pointless. Sanity skipped you didn't it.
Your choice to believe does't annoy me. What does, is that you try to stop advancement.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 --- Every child is given the light of creation, the light of conscience, and soon the gospel will be preached into all nations and everyone will have been given the light of Christ. Those who refuse to even hear the gospel or reject the light are making a decision against God and His plan of salvation. I'm not trying to stop advancement, I'm pushing for the advancement of science, truth and the gospel.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
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It is not a decision to reject God, it is the natural human state. Until you can find some credible evidence then I won't accept "God" any more than I accept belief in lepracorns. And advancement of "truth" and "Gospel" are contradictions, because the Gospels are as false as any other religious holy book, or "Harry Potter" In the word's of Hawkins "Science will win eventually."
atheism616 1 year ago
@atheism616 -- The reason for rejection of Jesus Christ is not because the facts aren't there to proove it- it is because of the hardness of the heart.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
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Nope it's because of facts, and the fact that you're trying to tell me what I really "think" demonstrates your over-baring arrogance.
atheism616 1 year ago
@atheism616 --- The truth may sound arrogant to the non-believing , but the truth is narrow and has no room for subjective opinions. Otherwise, it would be just the same political correctness you are using to form your opinions. Anything goes. Merry CHRISTmas. Jesus Christ- the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
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And surely saying "Anything goes" is your attempt at political correctness? I'm not saying that some things shouldn't go, but isn't it hypocritical of you to say "anything goes" whilst condemning abortion?
atheism616 1 year ago
@atheism616 --- You still can't determine when a child has a conscience, because then after that point you would have to call abortion murder. So anything goes. No truth.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
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I'm not the one advocating abortion, personally I believe it should only be applied under extreme circumstances, please know who you're preaching to
atheism616 1 year ago
@jojojosmart "You still can't determine when a child has a conscience, because then after that point you would have to call abortion murder. So anything goes. No truth."
Can you stop using the term "you" as referring to us as all atheists or all scientists. We each have personal differences (no matter how small)
Professional biologists are as close to certain when a baby has gained conscience and so can accurately assess and control abortions so that conscious babies are not killed. Capiche?
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 Abortion clinics are not regulated by when a conscience is formed. It has no relevance to the killers. Also, did you watch 60 minutes this week. An interesting story about blood vessels showing up in dinosaur bones who supposedly have been gone for 60 million years,MMMMMMMM?
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart "... Also, did you watch 60 minutes this week. An interesting story about blood vessels showing up in dinosaur bones who supposedly have been gone for 60 million years,MMMMMMMM?"
Or maybe you just can't get your head around science and so only pick up the things that you want to hear. It is rare but it is possible to find organic tissue inside fossils. Science is already aware of it. This is nothing new and it doesn't support special creation (As you seem to be implying).
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 --- One interesting fact does not conclusively prove creation, but when you deny hundreds of obvioust truths pointing to creation or at least showing the immpossibility of evolution, you really should question the theory.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart "One interesting fact does not conclusively prove creation, but when you deny hundreds of obvioust truths pointing to creation or at least showing the immpossibility of evolution, you really should question the theory."
There are no facts about creation. It is why you always generalise. You never give specifics. You avoid answering, by repeating the same old avoidance manoeuvre. At first I asked you for 20 pieces of verifiable evidence. You refuse, so I asked for 3 then 1.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 --- There are no facts about evolution- just generalizations and assumptions that keep changing as the truth overrides them. You have no verifiable evidence.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart " There are no facts about evolution" So the fossil record, genetics and the entire world of medicine. They are all guesses and generalisations. Try saying that to the doctors.
" that keep changing as the truth overrides them."
Yeah because science is self correcting, it updates as time goes on. Just because you think that change is bad because your religion is dogmatic. Science changes small things within a theory, the theory in it'self never does, it becomes more accurate.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 --- You are right -- science is self correcting. With more and more research, it gets closer to coming to God's truth. One day , it might catch up to God.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart "You are right -- science is self correcting. With more and more research, it gets closer to coming to God's truth. One day , it might catch up to God."
We might catch a god, but your god didn't even qualify, it got left behind when it claimed that man was specially "created" . So far however the science with all it's self correcting has disproven so much of the bible that you are simply going to get left behind (intellectually) and the worst bit. You won't even realise.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 -- Repent and turn your heart to Jesus Christ or you may be left behind on the day of rapture.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart "Repent and turn your heart to Jesus Christ or you may be left behind on the day of rapture." Well it's missed it's due date many times before, so I'm not to worried. Have fun waiting though.
Your comment also kind of proves what I mean by being left behind intellectually and not realising. You are still ranting about an old book, which has got so much wrong it's as fictional as the Lord of the Rings or the Chronicles of Narniah.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
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"Repent and turn your heart to Jesus Christ or you may be left behind on the day of rapture"
Just remember, Darwin died at a comfortable old age as a family man and respected British scientist, and Jesus died slowly and painfully in his thirties an unmarried childless virgin weirdo (with twelve possible male boyfriends) executed as a traitor by the state at the request of his own people.
No, I don't think I'll "turn my heart" to such a loser.
mosquitobight 1 year ago
@mosquitobight -- you got some of the folklore but the gospel of Jesus Christ is to put your focus not the temporal, but the eternal. Where your treasure is there your heart will be also. Also , Jesus was not a traitor. He was accused of blaspheme, for claiming the truth that He was God in the flesh. The people then, like you now didn't believe Him.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart I've noticed you are ignoring the comments that either ask you for proof or confront you with too much science and evidence for you to try and come up with an ignorant counter. Instead you reply to the more vague comments or those about Jesus as if that makes the other comments just disappear.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 --- Please show any proof of any transitional species. There are none and the fossil record shows none. Science proves the absurdity of evolution.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
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@jojojosmart " millions of fossils from millions of years ago that are exactly like the same species of living animals today."
We have Tyrannosaurs today? What about Archaeopteryx? Dinofelis? Deinotherium? Scutosaurus? Mososaurs? Hyaenodon? Basilosaurus? Dimetrodon?
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
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@jojojosmart "...Fossils... that are exactly like the same species of living animals today."
We have Tyrannosaurs today? What about Archaeopteryx? Dinofelis? Deinotherium? Scutosaurus? Mososaurs? Hyaenodon? Basilosaurus? Dimetrodon?
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
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''...Fossils... that are exactly like the same species of living animals today.''
There are Tyrannosaurs today? What about Archaeopteryx? Dinofelis? Deinotherium? Scutosaurus? Mososaurs? Hyaenodon? Basilosaurus? Dimetrodon?
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@jojojosmart Well let's go easy on you with an old favourite and one you've heard many times.
Dinosaurs to birds. It starts with Theropods more specifically Maniraptors, which include later forms (and favourites) such as Velociraptor and Oviraptor (both of which had feathers) though these are not precursors to birds they are related to birds like we are to gibbons (distant cousins, fyi). Now the Earliest transitional form, which you'll know very well is the Jurassic dinosaur Archaeopteryx...
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
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. Other Mesozoic birds include the Confuciusornis, the Enantiornithes, Yanornis, Ichthyornis, Gansus, and the Hesperornithiformes - a group of flightless divers. These all (though some are not direct) ancestors to modern birds. The recently discovered dromaeosaur Cryptovolans (may be a Microraptor) was capable of powered flight, possessed a sternal keel and had ribs with uncinate processes. In fact, Cryptovolans makes a better "bird" than Archaeopteryx...
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
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...Some paleontologists have suggested that dromaeosaurs are actually basal birds whose larger members are secondarily flightless, i.e. that dromaeosaurs evolved from birds and not the other way around. Evidence for this hypothesis is currently inconclusive however. (Just thought you'd like to know)
So you've got plenty of transitions for just this transition.
What evidence have you got for your god or the genesis account or the great flood?
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 --- Now you're not sure if you're coming or going. We came from apes or apes came from humans?
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart "We came from apes or apes came from humans" Neither, that's like asking if mammals came from humans or if humans came from mammals or asking for a town half way between LA and California. Humans didn't come from apes we are apes right now. We evolved from a species of ape, and I've shown you the full line down to Australopithecus Afrerensis because after that you'd get lost in all the complicated names.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 --- Try your search beyond aferensis. You didn't put enough effort into it to really understand that we are close to apes, but not having a common ancestor.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
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@jojojosmart "You didn't put enough effort into it to really understand that we are close to apes, but not having a common ancestor."
We aren't close to Apes, We ARE apes right now. This isn't some new "evolutionist" thing, a god loving creation believing scientist in the 1700's worked out what a primate was and we are one. No exceptions. We are Apes, Primates, Mammals, Animals. We are part of nature not something super naturally special.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
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@jojojosmart " You didn't put enough effort into it to really understand that we are close to apes"
We aren't close to apes, We ARE Apes right now. Humans are Apes, Primates, Mammals, Animals. This isn't something new. It was first noted by a creation accepting, god believing, scientist in the 17th century.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@jojojosmart " that we are close to apes "
We aren't close to apes, We ARE Apes right now. Humans are Apes, Primates, Mammals, Animals. This isn't something new. It was first noted by a creation accepting, god believing, scientist in the 17th century.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@jojojosmart "Try your search beyond aferensis." You mean like Australopithecus anamensis.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@jojojosmart You want evidence for evolution. Now unless a god deliberately wanted to trick us that everything evolved.
The Phylogenetic tree of life is plainly evident from the bottom up to any objective observer who dares to compare the anatomy different sets of collective life forms. But it can be just as objectively doubley confirmed from the top down when re-examined genetically. This is why it is referred to as a twin nested Hierarchy. It can also be further supported...
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
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... Biochemically, Chronologically in geology and developmentally in embryology. Why should that be? (You know there is only one answer) And how do creationists (you) explain how it is that every single thing fits into all these daughter sets, within parent groups, Each being derived according to apparently inherited traits. You don't even try to explain or anything else, you don't because you can't. Evolution is the only way to explain any of this and it explains it all.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 -- Would that mean you and gibbons are kissin' cousins?
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart "Kissin' " cousins? Now who's misquoting. I also have no idea where you got the idea from. A twisted mind probably.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@jojojosmart There are countless "facts", which can be evidence, used to refine and/or teach us more about the specifics within the broader evolutionary model. Evolution is also consistent in making predictions about facts and where to find them. The level of evidence that evolution happened at all is actually stronger and endlessly more abundant than a murder crime scene full of all the typical evidence used to convict someone to death. And the amount of evidence for it never stops piling up.
jbass02 1 year ago
@jbass02 --- The evidence for creation continues to pile up also. Except the ideas for creation don't continue to change as do the ideas imagined by evolutionists. They've tried punctuated equilibrium, hopeful monster, etc. The theories continue to come and change as more truth toward creation is proven.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart "The evidence for creation continues to pile up ..." Then show some of the pile so that we can see it. All you are doing is making an unsubstantiated claim, you HAVE to provide evidence. You not anyone else.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 - The pile of evidence is God's creation you see everyday and ignore. All the evidence you need beyond that is available through seeking out the truth through numerous fields of study. Choose whatever field of research to study this topic and you will find the truth.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart "The pile of evidence is God's creation you see everyday and ignore."
And yet YOU refuse to enlighten me by providing it when I ask you to. You make this claim so many times I'm beginning to think you are just making it up. Prove me wrong. By actually showing me evidence. I've asked many times. Why haven't you shown it me. If it is so obvious surely can't take very long to find something conclusive.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@jojojosmart "Choose whatever field of research to study this topic and you will find the truth."
You mean all those sciences like astronomy, geology, biology, chemistry and physics which have all separately found evidence all supporting a naturally occurring universe, an old Earth, the theories of gravity, evolution and electricity. Well if they lead to the "truth", then the bible must be as far from the "truth" as physically possible.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@jbass02 ---- the evidence is certainly piling up. Millions of fossils-- and not one 'transitional species' fossil in the whole bunch.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
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@jojojosmart "the evidence is certainly piling up. Millions of fossils-- and not one 'transitional species' fossil in the whole bunch." What do you think a transitional species looks like. Are you thinking Crocoduck or something different. I recommend looking up the scientific explanation.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
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" the evidence is certainly piling up. Millions of fossils-- and not one transitional species fossil in the whole bunch." What do you think a transitional species looks like? Are you thinking Crocoduck or something different? I recommend looking up the scientific explanation.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@jojojosmart The transitional records of some planktonic fossils are very smooth, but for large animals it will never be seamless (although there are some good ones- e.g. horses). But whats more interesting is that evolution makes specific predictions about fossils such as where to look for them -and what they will look like- *before* they are found. These predictions are confirmed over and over; such as the position of the nose in the fossils representing whale ancestry.
jbass02 1 year ago
@jbass02 --- We have millions of fossils from millions of years ago that are exactly like the same species of living animals today. No changes whatsoever. and no 'transitional' species.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
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@jojojosmart "We have millions of fossils from millions of years ago that are exactly like the same species of living animals today."
We have Tyrannosaurs today? What about Archaeopteryx? Dinofelis?
Deinotherium? Scutosaurus? Mososaurs? Hyaenodon? Basilosaurus? Dimetrodon?
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@jojojosmart Yes, some species exhibit stasis over millions of years. Speciation also occurs by any definition of the word proof. One of many examples: If the ancestors of whales and dolphins were not land dwelling, then why is their closest living genetic match the hippo? Why do we find fossils that represent their logical transition from land to water? Why do today's whales have vestigial leg and pelvis remnants in their bodies? And why do they still have the genetic relics for legs?
jbass02 1 year ago
@jbass02 - A close genetic match is no match at all. They are separate species and do not 'evolve' into another species.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart Yes they are separate species; and hippos never turned into whales or vice versa. The semi-aquatic ancestor of both whales and hippos split from other even-toed ungulates around 60 million years ago, and this is revealed using several lines of evidence (fossils, DNA, etc). Fast forward 60 million years and there are 80 different species of cetaceans in world today. So yes, speciation does occur. If it didn't genomes wouldn't reveal such a rich ancestral history.
jbass02 1 year ago
@jbass02 --- Whales and hippos never split from a common ancestor. They are separate species- always were and always will be.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
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@jojojosmart " Whales and hippos never split from a common ancestor. " I'm sorry, but genetics and comparative morphology in fossils would beg to differ.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
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@jojojosmart "Whales and hippos never split from a common ancestor. "
Genetics and comparative morphology in fossils would beg to differ.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
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Whales and hippos never split from a common ancestor?
Genetics and comparative morphology in fossils would beg to differ.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
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Whales and hippos never split from a common ancestor ? Genetics and comparative morphology in fossils would beg to differ.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@jojojosmart You're right again. You're catching on. If you followed back the ancestry of whales far enough you would eventually run into 4 legged mammals who could walk on land and were likely good swimmers. Same for the hippo. You'd have to go back in time even further to find the single ancestor of them all, which looked nothing like a whale or a hippo.
jbass02 1 year ago
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@jojojosmart " A close genetic match is no match at all. They are separate species and do not 'evolve' into another species." So you aren't closely related to your parents or cousins or second cousins. That's all evolution is. Variation in Allele frequency. A close genetic match is very much a solid piece of evidence for evolution. It shows related species. It also leaves the Genesis story in tatters.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
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if you actually took the time to judge your morality against strict definitions instead of heuristics it would be a disaster because there are always special cases. george bush believed in black and white morality which is why as governer he had a mentally retarded person executed
LeopardFrogPilboxhat 1 year ago
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@LeopardFrogPilboxhat -- If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus Christ, and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him will NOT perish but HAVE everlasting life. Merry CHRISTmas.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
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@jojojosmart " And Jesus said, "Follow me, and i will make you fishers of men." "Man does not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God." " Well sure man can't live on bread alone. Man needs fruit and veg. Not to mention meat, lovely meat. God isn't needed for a healthy diet.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@jojojosmart " You have done the same- shown no proof for evolution other than first making assumptions and then coming up with a theory to fit your assumptions."
You are posting on a video called Proof of Evolution: Part 3 (Atavisms and Fossils). That's verifiable evidence. You have chosen to ignore it without even checking to see if it is true or not.
Now go and get the proof you claimed or admit that you are just making it up. You are a coward and you know it.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 oops posted one of the comments twice. Oh well it may just help to get the message across.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
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@jojojosmart " You have done the same- shown no proof for evolution other than first making assumptions and then coming up with a theory to fit your assumptions."
So now you're deaf and blind as well as ignorant. You are posting on a video called Proof of Evolution: Part 3 (Atavisms and Fossils). That's verifiable evidence.
Now go and get the proof you claimed or admit that you are just making it up. You are a coward and you know it.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
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@jojojosmart " You have done the same- shown no proof for evolution other than first making assumptions and then coming up with a theory to fit your assumptions."
So now you're deaf and blind as well as ignorant. You are posting on a video called Proof of Evolution - Part 3 (Atavisms and Fossils). That's verifiable evidence. Now go and get the proof you claimed or admit that you are just making it up. You are a coward and you know it.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
Merry CHRISTmas. Jesus is the reason for the season.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate and hate, leads to suffering. Yoda has never said truer words.
Seriously though, all fear does is close the minds of all who feel it's sting. You are beyond "salvation" the moment you fear an all loving being. Or isn't your god all loving? If it isn't the bible is wrong. Again.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 -- you hate me because of myu love for the truth, don't you? In fact, you probably wish me to suffer. Well, Christ suffered because of the people's hatred for the truth also. in fact, He was crucifed for no reason other than the hatred of those who wanted Him dead. But He conquered death and rose from the dead. Amen..
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart I don't hate you. I pity your fear, I abhor your deliberate ignorance but I do not hate you. Nor do I want you to suffer, why would I? What would that achieve. You want me to suffer, you've said so many times that I AM going to hell. So I'd practise what you preach if I were you, like actually look for truth.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 -- I , like God am not willing that any should perish, but come to repentence and ask for God's free gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart You are exactly like your god. A xenophobic hippocrite who demands to be accepted without proof or evidence and will hand out threats of pain and a fate worse than death to any and all who dare to defy you. An all loving being could NEVER demand anything nor could it torture the innocent or even think a bad thought. Your god should be treated with contempt for it's immoral and unjust need for control and blind faith. It does nothing good for anyone. You are proof of that.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@Gibbons3457 -- You are proof that God gives anyone free will to choose their own path that leads to destruction. He even allows you to decieve yourself into beliving your own theology.
jojojosmart 1 year ago
@jojojosmart "You are proof that God gives anyone free will to choose their own path that leads to destruction. He even allows you to decieve yourself into beliving your own theology" Wrong.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago
@jojojosmart Is the Earth flat? Do you believe the Bible when it says the Earth is flat? (Isaiah 40:22.) Even you know this is wrong. But the bible says it, so to you it must be true as the bible is the "infallible word of god"
A simple yes or no will suffice. Good luck.
Gibbons3457 1 year ago