Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country

[FinaleGoofups]

If you guys want to hear one of the main inspirations for this piece, look up "Mars: The Bringer of War" by Gustav Holst. I find making allusions to his music very appropriate for the subject matter of of this film, and how it starts with Praxis exploding.

[Revoltingmachine]

why didn't they keep the theme from tmp and final frontier?

[TheJamesBondism]

The movie was good, but if I had directed the movie, I would cut the Shakespeare lines from the movie.......that' just my opinion.

[englanddg]

shorty - True.

[Doppleganger1983]

only nixon can go to china ;)

[englanddg]

What made this movie the best, was it's promptness to the the political coinsurance at the time.

[shortylickens69]

@englanddg Actually that wasnt unique to 6. Pretty much all the movies were an allegory to current events. 4 was obvious with the whole environmental message, but the others were more subtle.

[fenrar36]

This is Brigadier Kerla, speaking for the High Command. There has been an incident on Praxis. However everything is under control. We have no need for assistance. Obey treaty stipulations and remain outside the Neutral Zone. This transmission ends now.

[wrlord]

Just a ripoff of Holst.

[borax3030]

This is the perfect score to probably my favorite opening scene to any film ever!

[wandererlain]

This fucking blew me away when I first saw it at the Empire Leicester Square.

God!

[GriffithAMPS]

Scotty: "We're dead."

Spock: "I've been dead before. Contact Excelisoir."

[SR71ABCD]

I love the part when the Excelsior comes in aid with the Enterprise.

[dude75able]

@tzepesh20 Turks=Klingons

[Tslotha]

@dude75able Actually I think more Russians = Klingons. The UFP and the IKE were in a cold war style situation for ironically around 50 yrs and lack of finances and a industrial disaster caused them to seek a peace treaty with their long term enemies. Not to mention Leonard Nimoy's quote " What would happen if the wall came down in space?" in reference to the collapse of the berlin wall a year prior to this movie's release

[englanddg]

@Tslotha It was specifically them, yes...having been to East Germany...I can say...the average american has no idea what "communism" meant....

[Shinigami88X1]

@tzepesh20 No, If you actually look at their culture taht they are peace lovers

[sinfulmizery]

@Shinigami88X1 do i even need to say anything about the whole "Holy War" thing or even the drawing of their prophet muhammad caused people to be killed i.e. a nun by upset muslims. They barked that the artist should be killed for making an image about the prophet. Or how they control women to the point where in the middle east that they have no voice. Nothing like vulcans what so ever my friend!!!

[Shinigami88X1]

@sinfulmizery Let me guess you take you infro from the tube. Also this country does the same thing where people have no voice what ever. (you forgot the Civil Rights movement and the Wars) FRIEND.

PS. If all of that was true what the difference from the following: Don't our burn flag (same thing as showing a pic of the guy), If you are not an elitist like us then something is wrong with you and etc. So point is in valid.

[sinfulmizery]

@Shinigami88X1 My info is not from the tube dear friend but i am close to someone that grew up in iraq and has seen the worst things. My info comes from the horses mouth so i know of the horror of those events when she talkes to me and u can still see how it haunts her.

[Shinigami88X1]

@sinfulmizery how you know she isn't bullshiting..for that fact how I know you not bullshiting

[sinfulmizery]

@Shinigami88X1 i could care less if u believe me or not but i know her words to be true. She has seen her father killed before her when she was just a child so i can not see the middle east as the peace loving warm hearted people that u some how see them as. I've talked to many Arabs that have grown up there and their stories are all close when it comes to seeing people that they love killed in front of them or around them.

[sinfulmizery]

@Shinigami88X1 I live in a multicultural city and so with that i'm able to talk to and learn about how other people lived back in their homelands. I don't need to have t.v. or anything else give me the answers to something that i already know. And thanks to having a large middle eastern population here i've been able to learn alot about their culture.

[kuribayashi84]

Cliff Eidelman had so much promise when he started composing Scores. Yet, these days, hes reduced to score Rom-Coms such as "Hes just not that into you" . Fucking shame.

[nosuchthingasnothing]

The Savoy 16 Theater in Savoy, IL played this in their lobby for about 3 years after the film came out, and had a battle damaged Enterprise model and Bird of Prey hanging from their lobby ceiling for about a year when the movie came out. I loved it! It was my first Star Trek movie experience.

[Voxateuri]

You can feel the Gustav Holst isnpiration in this song.

[Ambarenya13]

FC>UC/TWOK>TVH>SFS>NEM>TMP>GEN­>INS>>FF

[MajCinematic]

THIS is my favorite Star trek movie. Wrath of kahn is good and so is the Whale one but I love this one the most.

[Mrblancnoir]

There is a piece from "Der Ring des Nibelungen" (I think its the entrance of the gods to Valhalla) that sounds very similar to this. The composer must have been influenced by Wagner.

[wrlord]

@Mrblancnoir Listen to Holst's Planets. It's nearly note-for-note the same.

[Proudnewfoundlander1]

This was an obscure composer at the time who made this. Guy in charge of the music turned down a lot of other compositions by other better known composers

[TheDarkPan]

Life lesson learned: You can't infiltrate an icy stronghold in a forbidden territory without knowing some Klingon.

[commando21]

wow this is very well done this is what makes startrek great!

[PaulGrantDesigns]

I'm curious about the two asian references they seem to imply in this movie... perhaps foreshadowing US/China relations more than US/Russian. Firstly, "General Chang", and during a discussion between Kirk and Spock, Spock states "Only Nixon could go to China."

[0814ma]

@PaulGrantDesigns I've always interpreted the Klingons as the Russians and the Romulans as the Chinese.

The Terrans are the Americans; the Vulcan, the British.

The Cardassians are the Nazis; the Bajorans, the Jews.

[Shinigami88X1]

@0814ma Well that kinda changed.

USA: Klingons

Middle East: Vulcans

China: Terrans

Europe: Romulans

[dude75able]

@0814ma And you are part of the BORG!!!!

[0814ma]

@dude75able Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Your culture will adapt to serve us.

By the way, do you have any doctors on your ship? The Borg Queen has an awful case of ... well, let's not that get into that.

[dude75able]

@0814ma I already know the Borg's thoughts. If i were "assimiliated", the Cube would explode, and all Borg would fall down dead! I'M THAT INSANE

[EmpireLS56KW]

I saw STAR TREK VI three times at the Empire Leicester Square, London in 70mm Dolby stereo 6track SR JBL 13KW THX sound system on February 14th 1992, it was total listening low end fun. The opening score really set the tone up for the film in dark operatic grandness over the star field.

[yiayia0000]

Perfect 

[yiayia0000]

perfect

[Outlier2004]

I've always wondered why they didn't use Nicholas Meyer to direct ALL the Star Trek movies. He clearly directed the 2 best ones in my opinion (Star Trek 2 - Wrath of Khan & this one, Star Trek 6 - Undiscovered Country) at least the ones with the original characters. When you compare these movies to other ones (like Star Trek 5 - The Final Frontier), the difference is very obvious. It's sad, by the time they probably realized it, it was too late (this being the last film with original characters)

[David8693]

@Outlier2004 They approached him to do ST:3 but he declined as Spock's resurrection wasn't something he could relate to or invest in after putting so much into his death in 2. Meyer isn't a SF fan, but he related to ST when he started to think of it as being like Hornblower in space. That's why Meyer's movies have such a strong nautical feel and why their stories are so "down-to-Earth" and human (apart from the Genesis planet) compared with the more outlandish Sci-Fi stories of the other films.

[MrPacMatt]

2:53 Moon Explosion!

[RedOnyxProductions]

You can't get much better then this! Star Trek 6 is one of my favorite Trek movies.

[talshiarr]

This was my favorite of all the film scores. Goldsmith and Horner remain fantastic as always, but this was such a change and fit the mood of the film better than one of their scores might have.

[MrKryptonboy]

I LOVE THIS MUSIC.

[englanddg]

This was a classic era where the Klingons were able to play the role of the Russians...classic period, fantastic film, amazing soundtrack.

[jamesschader]

no xplosion at the end ? :(

[RUDYRAY67]

@jamesschader  BOOM!!!

[joeylodes]

good score ... but its no HORNER!!!!!!!!

[rubisco1981]

How come this sounds like Elfman's Batman?

[JJNJ732]

@rubisco1981

Actually James Horner is heavily influenced by Gustov Holst. The score sounds as if it was plagarized from his masterpiece, the Planets. Listen to this piece and then Listen to Holst - Mars, bringer of war, and youll see exactly what Im saying. Elfman etc... there is no origianal thought left in composition it seems.

[wrlord]

@JJNJ732 Wan't Horner.

[TheAndyinSeattle]

Of all the theme music to all the Star Trek movies this one really fit the movie it goes to like a glove of old leather. The extraordinary tension of not knowing (from Kirk's perspective at least) of what was going to happen. A very tension filled theme.

[ShaolinDynasty]

This was a great soundtrack and film...

[at1212b]

@ShaolinDynasty Seriously. Talk about making a comeback from No. 5.

[ShaolinDynasty]

@at1212b No kidding...and it was a great way to end the movies with the original crew....

[vulcanluver]

I can't watch this film as I actually get a little misty-eyed, and this amazing score is a testament to that fact.

I thought I was the only one who hated that crap Abrams passed off as Star Trek. I'm glad to be proven wrong.

[kargaroc386]

the fall of the soviet union IN SPACE!

[Love2ProveUWrong]

Basically, this was Batman on Star Trek.

[poopsicle65]

This is how I rank the original six films...

2

6

4

3

1

5

[joeylodes]

this and Horner's score simply ruled

can't remember one freakin note from that horrific JJ crap

[TheArbiter138]

Star Trek = Hellz yeah bitches

[Frazzledotd]

Always wondered since i was a kid who the third guy on the poster is after Kirk and Spoke. McCoy? Looks a bit like Chekov. Sorry, big Trek fan and everything but never quite figured it out :P

[OddButInteresting]

@Frazzledotd: Yes, it's McCoy. Chekov, Uhura, Scotty and Sulu have always been the supporting characters to the central trinity of Jim, Spock and Bones.

[MrPJC101]

@Frazzledotd, lol. the 3 people on the poster are Kirk, Spock, McCoy......and General Chang :-)

[PlantOParadise]

@MrPJC101 That's 4 lol.

[Deridex86]

I love this movie so much. The bridge is tight, the story is baller and the quotes are awesome. Best Trek movie without a doubt.

[StuartTheGamerNerd]

This so annoying...why can't they buy the license and use these beautiful songs in Star Trek Online....without all the made up battle drums and trumpets music they use for it!!

[wrlord]

@StuartTheGamerNerd What songs? There were no songs in this movie.

[StuartTheGamerNerd]

@wrlord i meant the score of course...geez.....why you reply to something I said a year ago!

[HungrySamurai1]

The start of this clip reminds me of the opening of Stravinsky's Firebird Suite. But then Eidelman adds to the understated but ominous opening with a nice use of choir and intensifying orchestration to really set a great mood unique amongst the Star Trek films.

[edinscot56789]

Classic movie! One of the all time greats

[atraxus]

It's not the same without the BOOOM! at the end!

[th4397]

great score but Horner the best!

[Ambaryerno]

Award for best score in the franchise is a toss-up between this and Wrath of Khan, with the edge going to Khan.

[Dalbert342]

Wrath of Khan was good,but think Undiscovered Country was better...but Khan and UC were best ST movies ever made

[Tslotha]

In my opinion top 4 ST Movies are

1) Wrath of Khan

2) The Undiscovered Country

3) First Contact

4) The Voyage Home

[Cobrawolf]

@Tslotha Agreed.

[JAGTHEGEMINI]

@Tslotha

Yeah, ST2, 6 and 8 are the best movies by far imo.

[Jurassic343]

you cant forget First Contact now : )

[willd3rbeast]

This theme has a "Futility" and "Epic" feel to it.

Its one of my favourites

[TheArbiter138]

this song is pure greatness and total kickassness

[LoveMalePecs1]

I've the first 10 films on VHS (bought them) and Bought the Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country Soundtrack on DVD al the songs that were used in the film.

[sondano]

awesome score like a classic symphony

[AJGreene007]

They should've played this at the Obama inauguration because that man is gonna ruin this country. I know this piece played in my head when he was elected. Just so the peace would remain, they should've voted in John McCain and keep it traditional. Yep, this world is coming to an end alright.

[lolubentrold]

0/10. Tard harder next time.

[desotowrong]

A grand score to a grand film.

[Pugslee3]

Awsome early 90's scfi movie.

[Pugslee3]

I have loved this movie ever since it first came out on VHS and I rented from the rental place.

[nerdtalk326]

Me TOO!!!!!

[Mackingster]

This is my favorite Trek film with the Original cast. The sound track just adds to that feeling.

[skyskraper94]

the music gives the movie a certain touch

[lahainawhaler]

This score is just awesome and made the movie just as John William's eerie staccato for Jaws. I agree. It's sets a feeling that something sinister is approaching which ties into the plot of a conspiracy to assassinate a president. It would have been cliche' to do a "Soviet" /Iron Curtain sounding score since it also related to the Cold War and the end of communism in Soviet Union at the time. Thanks for posting all the scores.

[MultiWilliamK]

This overture makes the hairs sit up on the back of my neck no matter how many times I hear it.

[RUDYRAY67]

@MultiWilliamK Me too!!!

[btm85bubs]

Listening to this makes me wish I had expensive, high-quality speakers, so I could turn the volume way up and let the sound wash over me. The first minute, especially, is absolutely brilliant.

Nicholas Meyer wanted to use Gustav Holst's "The Planets" (James Horner declined to score the movie), but when the cost proved prohibitive, he turned to Cliff Eidelman.

Dennis McCarthy basically stole his cue for the Generations (ST VII) saucer-crash sequence from the last part of this clip.

[xxAtlantianKnightxx]

To the internal!<3

[Backlap]

By far the best Star Trek score!

[RobinArts01]

this is so dark and evil, haha :)

[OTimeMasterXO]

the main thing i didnt like about this film is how shatner was given most of the screen time. it really annoyed me as when you were starting to get into the five minutes that actually shows the rest of the crew the film cuts to another set of hour long kirk scenes. so annoying!!!

[Golbezz1]

The new Star Trek movie had a completely forgettable main title. Can't even remember it. -_-

[BIGBODYHACI]

it´s name is just star trek that´s the whole title

[JordanSayz]

its more dark and warlike but the trademark Trek optimism is faintly present in the background

[BIGBODYHACI]

i thik its the third best score the best is the one fraom first contact and the second is the one fram isurrection

[fogell359]

I agree, it is definitely the darkest and most distinct scores of the all the trek movies. being a trekkie myself, i love pretty much all the scores of star trek. but this one stands out the most, though not exactly my favorite, i really like it. I think my favorite score is the one from first contact. But this is a really good score to a really good movie.

[a1d2a3m5]

EPIC

[RATLOVIN900]

I'm a Trekkie too and I say that this is some of the BEST music Star Trek has to offer! I LOVE it!

[Hartzilla2007]

Sigh its just not the same without the BOOM! at the end.

[eeektavius]

My favorite movie in the whole franchise :)

[englanddg]

@eeektavius Completely agreed. Though II is a close match.

[firegarden90]

2.09 sends chills down my spine lol

[DaddlerTheDalek]

The Dark Mysterie of The Klingon Empire...

I Love it! XD

[Mikej2156]

Star trek will either make or break J.J. Abrams I recon, due to it's fanbase.

[giantsfanman11]

I have high hopes for this, but I don't think this will make or break J.J. Granted this has potential to be his biggest film or his worst failure, but he is already too established for this to affect his career that much.

[TheRealYoda1]

I'm a Trekkie and I didn't see much wrong with his movie. Plus the idea for the time riff story has been done in TNG.

[fdfederation]

I'm confused. Isn't there an organization in the future that's in charged of protecting the timeline? (i.e. USS Relativity from Voyager, the temporal agent from that Enterprise series, even Picard travels back in time to stop the Borg from altering the timeline) If all of this is taken into account, does that mean that the new Star Trek movie never occurred when someone travels back in time and fixes it?

[krazie835]

I'd like to ignore most of what happened in Star Trek Voyager. lol

[goji2099]

@krazie835 I'd agree, but you have to admit, Robert Picardo's character was great..... Besides, Voyager is the Campy, screwball comedy sitcom take on Star Trek. Every episode can be described as "Hilarity ensuing."

[stafflvr]

@krazie835 Amen!

[bamikroket]

@krazie835

Hmm yeah.... Voyager;

Inverted temporal quantum field this, tachyonical wave inhibitor that, dual gravimetrica..... hmmm, she has a nice, tight, shiny bodysuit!! :O

[rich1701]

What about temporal investigations interrogating Sisko in Trials and Tribbleations about the temporal prime directive? and due to the infinite opportunities time travel provides to correct pollution of the time line, one must assume it is a massive plot oversight.

[soystuff1195]

@fdfederation I like that idea! Yes... the new Star Trek movie didn't actually happen! It didn't happen, and therefore it did not mess with Star Trek's canon. I'm going to use that to keep myself from getting any angrier at Star Trek 11.

[KlingongBane]

@fdfederation Nah, the new Star Trek film occurs in a mirror universe.

[8497289]

@fdfederation the new star trek movie ruins the canon of the whole franchise in one fell swoop

[MJ0428]

@fdfederation Well alot of that is Voyager related, if you put it aside, it's not that big a deal. Plus you must remember that the new movie is in an alternate timeline.

The temporal agency protects this timeline from damage, but they can't (and won't) do anything about all the other quantum dimensions where everything that can happen has happened.

Like that one episode of TNG when Worf found himself living on different Enterprises, and they had to seal that quantum fissure.

[clericjack]

@fdfederation You have to remember that you have an army of writers on this television series. (With its five incarnations.) And to keep up with all of that is madness. Besides...IT. IS. A. SILLY. UNIMPORTANT. TELEVISION. PROGRAM.

[samesque]

@fdfederation Perhaps they do not have the proper technology to avoid and solve black-hole related timetravel, and so they all fell victim to the time-line change (ie. the Relativity and the Temporal Investigations team also ceased to exist because of Nero).

Just an idea -- perhaps black-hole changes CANNOT be prevented?!

[Neoclassicalman]

@fdfederation probably the new changes to the timeline were unfixable to the timeships, cause remember the Hobus star super nova'd and that probably had so big effect in the space/time continuum, my question is why didnt something like hmmm Q fix the mess?

[PraiseDivineMercy]

@fdfederation Yay, I'm going to imagine that happened. I hated the new movie.

[Robotdrummerzzk]

@fdfederation it's a new, alternate time line. the old one, the one we know, is fine.

[jamballajamballa]

I'd rather thought that JJ Abrams either would make or would brake Star Trek.

Either a new fresh Star Trek or just an Actionmovie...

[TheEmpireIsDead]

The theme to the new Star Trek movie is probably going to suck balls big time, compared to this.

[krazie835]

From what I've heard I think they're using the original Alexander Courage theme. I like the theme but I think it sounds horribly dated, but that's just me.

[RiggerMantis]

I'd heard they're using a variant. Indeed, the 60's version of the Courage theme would sound dated. The version used briefly in The Motion Picture was nice, though. A more developed, epic orchestral version would be nice, and I suspect that's what Michael Giacchino has done with his score for J.J. Abrams' "Star Trek".

[giantsfanman11]

While Courage's theme will be present in the film, that won't be the main theme. Giacchino's main theme for the movie is subtle and it grew on me after a few listens.

[MJ0428]

@krazie835 I think it's a fantastic theme now that I've heard it, your right though it is obvious that it's a dated theme, on the other hand that does kind of fit with the nature of the film being on the original 60's crew and all that.. So I think the new one turned out to be not too shabby.

[mugabesunny]

@krazie835 I think the way they used the full Alexander Courage theme over the end credits rather than just the fanfare opening was wrong. Nothing can match Goldsmith's theme and Horner's theme. Eidelman is right up there and should have done the new Trek, what an awesome composer, its disgraceful he is not used on these big sci fi movies. Trek 6 is an awesome score!

[RUDYRAY67]

@krazie835 Correct!!!

[joeylodes]

it did

[sondano]

@TheEmpireIsDead actually the theme of the new movie is one of only two good things in it the other is of course Nimoy doing Spock again

[RUDYRAY67]

@TheEmpireIsDead  Correct!!!

[LibrisDisseminamus]

This is the best score to all of the Star Trek films, though the score to Wrath of Khan is close behind. They did well to bring in an outsider to compose the music. Poor Jerry Goldsmith, all of the films that he scored (The Motion Picture, V) were the worst of the Star Trek films.

[CalgarSkull]

Fantastic score

[eeektavius]

this score oozes win!

[Hartzilla2007]

It's too bad the boom at the in is only in the movie.

[spoonmonkey14]

Epic.

[buckripley]

i love this music

[frostymoviesjp]

BEAUTIFUL BRAVO !!!

[clay56]

LUVED this score!

Always thought it was somehow trying to convey a story behind the scenes beginning with some dark plan and climaxing with the destruction of the Klingon moon at the beginning of the film!

But that's just me. :)

[DaddlerTheDalek]

I Looove it! XD

I Love this Movie!

I Love this Score!

[raidenzero]

The best star trek score by far

[DoomRaiden]

amen to that

[R8erNation636]

It is a great score; while listening to it, you really feel the tension like you were on the bridge of the Enterprise yourself; that if Kirk and co. don't succeed, then the Federation and Klingons will be arming for war.

On another note, for some reason I hear this and think it wouldn't be out of place in the old Michael Keaton Batman film; that's a compliment BTW.

[JosThaBoss666]

Haha was thinking that the other day, can be considered very elfman like, with the choirs