Voyager's use of the Fuel taken from the Aliens would be Controversial. But the ship would have gotten at least 15,000 Lightyears closer to home. Voyager could use the Weaponry devised to fight Species 8472 to wipe out the Aliens if they attacked the Starship
Voyager was actually 30,000 Lightyears away when this Scene Happened. Starfleet didn't know about Voyager's Jump thru the Quantum Slipstream and the 20,000 Lightyear Tranwarp Jump Voyager had takeneariler that year.
In a Controversial Move for a good story Janeway should have used the Fuel Additive from the Alien Bodies from the USS Equinox's Actions in the Delta Quadrant.some of the Alien Bodies i believe were left on Voyager at the end of the Season 6 Opener. 10,000 Lightyears Closer to home.
@Roadracer987654321 I have a feeling the aliens would notice this and unleash a renewed assault that won't cease this time. It would make Janeway an accessory to murder, in any case since those aliens were originally killed for the purpose of being used as fuel.
@kevinphoenix2007 Since the Aliens were already dead and in storage aboard Voyager, maybe their deasd bodies use would not be noticed by the living ones. Using Tech from the Slipstream Drive,andf maybe Data collected from using the Borg Transwarp Drive, then the ship could have jumped 15,00 to 20,000 Lightyears closer to home.
@underthehoodfan11 I think she was ok compared to the others. My favorite character of this series is Tom Paris. The captain wasn't a real focus for me.
Such a well-done scene. My favorite bit is where Janeway says "He heard you, Admiral," implying his son had not only become a respected member of the crew but a bridge officer. Very powerful.
What older crew? If you mean the last episode Endgame, once they changed the timeline, the older crew no longer existed. They were aged because they took the entire time to get home. By changing the timeline to get home quicker, they never could have aged, and they got home then.
The only person who was duplicated and might have a twin same time on Earth is the Doctor. As a backup copy of him was found hundreds of years later on a planet. And he eventually set course back to Earth.
Why go through all that Borg hell to get home when Admiral Janeway could have brought them home through the hole she created in the first place. They would have had only a few Klingons to worry about. Just Sayin
@JustLeMe She may have had the armor to protect her shuttle, but not the firepower to overcome them. And even Voyager would have been outmatched against two Klingon attack cruisers. And as furious as those Klingons were at that moment, they would be relentless in destroying them.
@twoface0 yes I know the relationship between them. It may be so ? the shock ? nevertheless .... he still didn´t say anything... no matter how "shocked" a person is; after years of not seeing family you suppose you can say something like yelling out "dad how are you" or "IM ALIVE" but geez... is just a show.... there´s nothing perfect in this world xD Im spacing out
I think Voyager had more bad episodes then good; as oppossed to tng and Ds9 who had more good then bad. Of course the episodes that did well "good year of hell" for example were very well written
@mockhazzard Picard was a scientist too, an archeologist. (There's an episode about that but I forget the name. Also EU books but not everyone accepts those as canon.)
@DataTasha4Ever Ya but he really wasn't portrayed that way, at all. The Character may have a scientist background but thats not who Picard was. HE was a strategist and a man of Order. Janeway was portrayed at the "little scientist" on many of Voyager Episodes.
@DataTasha4Ever Archaeology was one of his interests, among many others. But Picard worked his way up through the command track. Leadership, people management, diplomacy.
I've only watched voyager. Loved the dynamics - and Kate Mulgrew was exceptional as Captain Janeway - very engaging character! From what I've seen of Picard, I find Janeway a little more interesting.
Well I loved Patrick Steward way before I knew he was playing in ST, but ... I definitely would not compare all those captains. Each of them were unique in unique enviroment and that was by the way intesion of the makers of ST - to show very different storylines... comparing quallity of each series (voy, tng, ...) would be another question.
Janeway was one of the worse captains there was. Her bridge crew were engaged in actions that put the ship at risk every other week - this was the woman who took her ship in Kazon territory to save a baby!
I'm surprised there wasnt a ship mutiny against her and the bridge crew!
The term "best" is inappropriate. Personally, I like Picard the most, also I like Kirk of course, and I don't like Janeway. But I can see, why someone likes this one more than the others.
This was an epic scene in terms of emotion on Voyager. The writers really went all out in making it dramatic as possible without being cheesy. I love how everyone but Janeway is so speechless at making first contact with Starfleet after 6 years of waiting and Janeway sums it up with that one line "keep a docking bay open for us."
What's good about Federation is that anything can be accomplished. The tools are there. What's bad, is that the commanding officers are idiots and give up so fast. Reg was pushing for it and established contact. This is why Borg are beating the crap out of poor Federation. They don't give up if there are problems, they simply continue to work and find solutions.
1:50 - 2:00 one of the most emotional moments of the series. Knowing that those brief 3 minutes of communication between Voyager and Starfleet will bring them so close to making it home after 6 years brings tears to the eyes. I love Janeway's line "Keep a docking bay open for us".
Very moving :'-) Imagine how difficult it would be for Starfleet command to know that one of its ships was stranded so far away, and to be so totally incapable of helping its crew. Janeway is a soldier, 50000 light years back to the federation HELL YEAH! What a woman :-)
hard to say which captin is the best, but if i had to chose, it would be kirk, he had everything and it was kirk's mission to sleep with every alien beauty with in warp reach...respect to the man!
Kirk was awesome - hero, diplomat etc - the whole package - oh I forgot lover too.
Picard, although well played by Patrick Stewart, was always caught up in StarFleet policy/protocols and that made him stodgy and a little boring at times. Sisko had wisdom beyond his years and Janeway was the humanist, and like Kirk, she was the risk taker and not afraid to break the Prime Directive (you'd never find Picard doing a deal with the Borg!). For me, Janeway wins.
deathcapped, but they bent the rules for Janeway. She got her ship too damaged too often. Her ship should have required service at a starbase many times but the ship would just magically be repaired by the next episode.
This is the world of Science FICTION - so we can't have reality getting in the way of a good story. Besides, Voyager had repair mechs or robots that did lots of the repairs (forgotten the episode where you can see them on Voyager's surface - but they had landed on a planet).
Damaged ship, repairs...pfffff. This doesn't change the fact that I think Janeway was the best Captain. Like I said, Picard was the Starfleet fanboy, Sisko was enlightenment while Kirk and Janeway were real explorers.
deathcapped, both Picard and Kirk's Enterprise had to be repaired at a spacedock after major battles, so it doesn't fit with the rest of the Star Trek universe that Janeway didn't.
but but but - there are no space docks in the delta quadrant, so it doesn't fit that she could stop..lol. Like I said - Voyager had repair mechs to crawl all over the surface to fix it.
i think its stupid to BUT there is a workable argument, voyager is tiny, theres a crew of a 140, constitution class is manned by 400 and the galaxy class needs a thousand people, while its absurd how much damage it took in deadlock for example, its plausable some of the time
@ondank, of course it is pausable some of the time, but there were several times it wasn't and she normally took too much risk, as if she could just call in backup or zip back to a starbase at any time. When you are alone you have to play it safe and she rarely did that. Was just too much for me but I watched every episode and enjoyed many of them.
Janeway did just that, she visited Deck 15 of Voyager, the lowest deck, she rescued 3 crew members who slipped through the cracks on her ship who'd never been on an away-mission. Ep. 6x20 Good Shepard
People are often arguing about who was the best captain. I used to go with the crowd and say "Oh, Picard and Kirk, but probably Picard"
Then I thought about it. Who would I, personally, want as my captain. Who would I stand to duty for, even at death?
It would be the captain that I related to, the one who was kind, thoughtful and cared deeply about every induvidual aboard their ship. For who crew were not just numbers to be kept alive, but people to be cherished.
I agree I loved Picard and Kirk, even Archer (who deserves more respect than most fans gave him!) However, Janeway was hands down my favorite! She was just a 'real' character that people could get behind because she could bring out the best in people. But when you think about it all of the SF Captains are really just reflections of us, people identify with them cause most of us see them as having qualities that we lack, most of us wish we could be more like them in some ways.
I'd say all of the Captains (and Commander Sisco) were equally concerned with their crew's wellbeing. If they didn't form as close a bond with every individual it's probably because their ships were a fair bit larger and they weren't trapped with them for so long.
I disagree- Janeway has been the best Captain out of all Trek. She is the most human, and the least strict. She cared more for her crew than the other Captains, encountered the Borg more and got her ship back to Earth. If anything, she has been the most exceptional Captains ever and this scene is one of the best through out the series.
I have to take issue with that statement to some degree. Picard was definitely a stand-up guy and a great captain, but Janeway brought something even more to her crew; a sense of unity and loyalty and family that no other captain ever quite matched. She had to deal with uniting the Maquee and star flete crews into one, then get them to hang with her on the voyage home. Besides, for me, Voyager had more episodes I'd call awesome than TNG, and I loved TNG a lot.
Each Captain had his own personality to suit each situation he/she was in. Kirk was cocky lol and a good fighter. Picard was the epitome of starfleet, the explorer but a terrible fighter if he fought at all lol. Sisko, my personal favorite on my favorite show, HAD to be tough after all he dealt with, but had his moments as well. He was an EXCELLENT role model in all aspects especially on a personal level. Janeway was that way coz of her situation, STRANDED and alone people who hated starfleet
@gamecock86 Only because she had to have more of a motherly role with them so far away from their support system. I wouldn't recommend the way she ran her ship had they not gotten lost.
@gamecock86 she was one of the best captains LMAO , she is an insane bitch, she trapped her crew in the delta quadrant even though it was violating the prime directive, she didnt want to save a planet full of people from imanent destruction, she created a bio weapon to use against species 8472 she went genocidal on ransom she executed tuvix, sent harry on many a suicide mission, and oh yes said she would rather destroy her ship then share tech with the kazon, cares my ARSE
@ondank SO you judge her as a bad captain because she cuts through the bureaucratic crap and does the right thing? Tuvix was unnatural, she sacrificed 1 life to save 2, Species 8472 was a galactic threat, nobody cares about Harry, The Kazon were maniacs...they didn't stand for what Starfleet stands for.
@LivesForJihad she still executed someone against there will, that is exactly how the borg think, one life is more important then two , you cant mathematically make a decision on a morale issue, tuvix did not ask to be created but was, and had a right to life, species 8472 was a galatic threat but so were the borg and picard new it was wrong in "i borg" harry is a human and deserves to be treated right and your argument is flawed you critise starfleet but then say kazon cant have tech
@ondank Tuvix was not executed, he was healed. The Kazon would make war, not peace. The Borg, are not actually bad however...they are just a robotic race of machines that want to make everyone part of a non-exclusive club. They want perfection for everyone. They are like Space Democrats.
@LivesForJihad BULLSHIT , the borg force you to join there collective that is bad that is wrong and tuvix was a free individual he was a life and he had a choice and was of sane mind no one has the right to take that away from him, and as for the kazon, as far as i saw janeway seemed pretty keen on making war too
@ondank She wanted to defend her crew against the Kazon. Janeway wasn't stealing their technology...she even organized a peace summit for the Kazon. As for Tuvix...he was an accident...he needed to be fixed. Remember that big earwig that latched onto Bellana and the Doctor created that Holographic Cardassian named Krel Mosset to help him with the surgery? I guess we should have let Bellana die under your logic.
@LivesForJihad no one would have died in the case of tuvix, she executed a man, he was an accident, but a living accident in the same way a baby born after a condom splits is accident, that gives no right for someone else to take away that life after being created
@gamecock86 I agree with you on most of your points except one, I don't think she cared the most for her crew than the other captains. Each one cared for their crew in one way or another just as much. Just my opinion.
@gamecock86 She was probably the best captain, but the series itself ruined the Borg. They turned the Borg from a mortal enemy of the federation into just another day at the park.
@MrMichael1701 I have to agree that they went a bit too far in how much of an advantage we got over the Borg, but you can't have them stay as deadly as they have been until voyager forever. People want to see the idea that we're not helpless weaklings whose only reason to exist is to wait for something to kill us.
At the very least you should've expected that we would come into something that made it possible to stand toe to toe with the Borg, rather than the complete role reversal we got.
All the Captain's were tough cookies with some emotional weaknesses.
Sisko was the least emotional; Janeaway merely reacted how anyone would act had they been lost in space for years on end but was overall serious as hell; Kirk was very tense when it came to something personal; Picard was edgy & often emotional when not commanding the bridge
So would you be if you were 70 years from home in the middle of unexplored space, no back up, and limited supplies and power. But she still stuck to starfleet protocol.
@gamecock86 Sorry I got to go with Sisko being the best Captain out of all of them.Don't have anything majorly against Janeway(she had a few quirks that bugged me) but other than that she was okay.But my vote will always be with Sisko.
@gamecock86 buuullllshhiiitttt. you dont know what your talking about. Voyager was poorly exicuted and writen, it was the soap opera of star trek. At most it should have been a mini series.
Janeway was a rediculus captin who would have been demoted in federation space. A star fleet captain has to be strict and fatherly these ships could destroy planets. And she didnt even get her ship home, the series was canceled so they rounded it off poorly. Picard rulez!
are you fucking kiding me. voyager was the bomb, tng and tos where bettter, but voyager was still good. you just dont like it becuase there a chick in and command
@chevron8locked haha yeah I play ukulele with abunch of girls ina group called pussy international I realy have a problem with girls in command. My firm stance is in a sense of humour, Iv enjoyed all S.T. but i stand by my comment that voyager was the soap opera of the series. TNG was based on the concept of a future community that had no need for money and was racially and alienly(?) diverse. Trying to reflect upon social climate in our day today lives. Voyager was no deeper than fly run shoot.
BTW: Star TNG Star Trek DS9 and Star Trek Voyager all had seven seasons. Also all seven seasons had 26 episodes each in all 5 series. Just letting you know.
You say poorly written but how many people would have wanted it like the TNG series again. It was different!
They weren't in federation space they were over 75,000 light years from it. Also if notice over the course of the whole series she lightens up and actually an episode explains why, (I can't remember).
@cornelisvz Interesting comment..."nice to see a woman in that leading role". Because I view both genders are equal....I never notice gender as something to either criticize or celebrate.
You may wish to consider this and become as enlightened as me.
@mikefastener Man and women are actually very different; for that reason all big companies in the world want a heterogenic board of directors; women often offer a different (not better or worse but different) point of view. My comment in this case, however, was based on all other ST captains who - as you know - are male. But I'm thrilled you feel enlightened.
@cornelisvz Other ST captains were male? I guess I didn't notice! Oh well, I guess you being thrilled is now at least one adventure you have had in your life.
@gamecock86 Sorry man , she's awesome ,don't get me wrong ,but i like Picard 1% more. You can't deny u love him after first contact , I mean cmon. THE LINE MUST BE DRAWN HIAH!!!!!
This was a good ep all around, however at this point in Voyagers run, the ship was only approx. 30,000 light years from earth, not 60,000. If Barclay was sending his transmission to where they THOUGHT Voyager was, how could they have possibly detected it over 30,000 light years away? That's my biggest complaint with this series, the blatant inconsistencies in writing! Otherwise, the actors always did a phenomenal job with what they had.
I believe they already encountered Voyager through the Doctor / EMH and the confrontation with the Prometheus. There were other writing errors, but after this occurrence they could project where they'd be. It's at least plausible.
When the doctor was transferred to the Prometheus, Voy was 60k light years away. There's a line in Pathfinder, that if Voy averaged warp 6.2, they could reasonably assume they'd be in one of 3 sectors. At warp 6.2, Voyager would've only travelled approx 900 light years. IN season 5, they built a slipstream and stole technology from the borg, travelling over 30k light years. No way they should've been able to pick up that transmission. ;)
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Manchesterbadger you hit the nail right on the head. This is the most lifeless, dry, wooden performance I've ever seen! Poor acting, poor script, just a poor series all around.
A wonderful performance from Kate, who I think is a phenomenal actress. This scene gets me crying every time I see it. Even though a lot of people don't like "Voyager", I think it was a wonderful series.
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This scene sums up the frustration I had with VOY. Great premise, yeah. But everyone in this scene out acts Mulgrew, she's as wooden and charmless as ever. In Trek you must get the Captain right and Voy and ENT both failed in this - Archer and Janeway were lifeless, uninspiring leaders.
Voyager and Enterprise were okay as a whole, lacking... but they had their moments. I completely agree regarding this scene. When I watched it, I thought the title was out of sarcasm! This is the moment the crew has been waiting for for 6 years, and the last word I would use to describe her performance here is "emotional". If you want actors that really bring their characters to life and really provoke emotions from that audience, and really leave you in tears when the series has completed. DS9.
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I agree re: Archer &Janeway,they were both quite poor,Bakula was always wooden in "Quantum Leap",and has never improved as for the actress playing Janeway,can`t say i have seen her in anything before or since.The 2 best series were the original and TNG,both had good captains ,an excellent quality actor in Stewart and a charismatic in Shatner.
And as a reward for all his work, Lt. Reginald Barclay was given extra holodeck hours (against Always a Counselor Troi's recommendations). He was last seen in hour 457 masturbating to Orion female porn.
yeah but the Enterprises didn't go through cake walks exactly. 1701 went through all kinds of hell imaginable. the A went through some serious klingon hell. the B got f'd up by the nexus. 1701-C didn't make it home. 1701-D went through some serious tuffles with the borg. the enterprise-E went through worse stuff with the scimitar than what voyager went through in year of hell.
yes but voyager faced the borg and otehr enimeis alkso with to place to repair iytself tjhe enerpriswe coulkd be repaired when ever voyager was completely issolated for seven years
Beautiful video. It brought tears to my eyes.
Seattlecarnut 2 days ago
I cried during this scene!
weinmj 2 months ago 2
@weinmj Me too!
holonat 2 weeks ago
I like how they brought back Mr. Brocoli
LordSpleach 2 months ago 7
Voyager's use of the Fuel taken from the Aliens would be Controversial. But the ship would have gotten at least 15,000 Lightyears closer to home. Voyager could use the Weaponry devised to fight Species 8472 to wipe out the Aliens if they attacked the Starship
Roadracer987654321 2 months ago
Voyager was actually 30,000 Lightyears away when this Scene Happened. Starfleet didn't know about Voyager's Jump thru the Quantum Slipstream and the 20,000 Lightyear Tranwarp Jump Voyager had takeneariler that year.
In a Controversial Move for a good story Janeway should have used the Fuel Additive from the Alien Bodies from the USS Equinox's Actions in the Delta Quadrant.some of the Alien Bodies i believe were left on Voyager at the end of the Season 6 Opener. 10,000 Lightyears Closer to home.
Roadracer987654321 3 months ago
@Roadracer987654321 I have a feeling the aliens would notice this and unleash a renewed assault that won't cease this time. It would make Janeway an accessory to murder, in any case since those aliens were originally killed for the purpose of being used as fuel.
kevinphoenix2007 2 months ago
@kevinphoenix2007 Since the Aliens were already dead and in storage aboard Voyager, maybe their deasd bodies use would not be noticed by the living ones. Using Tech from the Slipstream Drive,andf maybe Data collected from using the Borg Transwarp Drive, then the ship could have jumped 15,00 to 20,000 Lightyears closer to home.
Roadracer987654321 2 months ago
*damnit* need to know this episode, missed this one,... anyone got an idea?
DaemonBright 3 months ago
@DaemonBright This is Pathfinder, season six
TheDrowWarrior1 3 months ago
So Reg disobeyed orders, big deal! Since when did obeying orders do any good in Star Trek?
If Kirk hadn't disobeyed orders Spock would of died on Genesis, McCoy would of gone insane, and the whale probe would of destroyed Earth.
If Picard hadn't disobeyed orders the Borg would of assimilated Earth in the past and a bunch of people in the Briar Patch would of been killed.
If Sisko hadn't disobeyed orders then the entire Alpha Quadrant would belong to the Dominion.
The list goes on and on!
darthroden 3 months ago 9
yaay sexytrekkie, tom is my fav too, I think he's hot!
tommygirl252 4 months ago
Goosebumps!!
PianoWizzy 4 months ago
Even in the Future...
Ya Gotta Love it When A Plan Comes Together!
mr6johnclark 4 months ago
High quality piece of star trek can't believe it was a series.
s1nGuL4r1ty 5 months ago
The A-Team even helps people in the future.
fjccommish 5 months ago 3
I always liked Barclay. It was good to see him succeeding on this show
BULLSHIT1173 5 months ago 3
janeaway is my 2nd LEAST favroutie captain
underthehoodfan11 5 months ago
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me thinks me not give a fuck
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@jinto1980 ok nice grammer btw
underthehoodfan11 5 months ago
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me not troll me not care
jinto1980 5 months ago
@underthehoodfan11 I think she was ok compared to the others. My favorite character of this series is Tom Paris. The captain wasn't a real focus for me.
sexytrekkie 4 months ago
Great scene! Thank you for posting!
Anyone have the entire "Pathfinder" episode???
englundus 5 months ago
Such a well-done scene. My favorite bit is where Janeway says "He heard you, Admiral," implying his son had not only become a respected member of the crew but a bridge officer. Very powerful.
zorak950 7 months ago
FINALLY, redemption for Reg
synicle0723 8 months ago
Also...after they got back home.....how did they live with the older crew already there...wouldn't there be two of each of them?
JustLeMe 8 months ago
@JustLeMe
What older crew? If you mean the last episode Endgame, once they changed the timeline, the older crew no longer existed. They were aged because they took the entire time to get home. By changing the timeline to get home quicker, they never could have aged, and they got home then.
The only person who was duplicated and might have a twin same time on Earth is the Doctor. As a backup copy of him was found hundreds of years later on a planet. And he eventually set course back to Earth.
Draknfyre 7 months ago
@Draknfyre I can see that. thanks for pointing it out.
JustLeMe 7 months ago
Why go through all that Borg hell to get home when Admiral Janeway could have brought them home through the hole she created in the first place. They would have had only a few Klingons to worry about. Just Sayin
JustLeMe 8 months ago
@JustLeMe She may have had the armor to protect her shuttle, but not the firepower to overcome them. And even Voyager would have been outmatched against two Klingon attack cruisers. And as furious as those Klingons were at that moment, they would be relentless in destroying them.
kevinphoenix2007 2 months ago
This was one of my favorite episodes in Voyager.
jediyves 8 months ago
who was the character on Admiral paris's right?
Jamescs007 9 months ago
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Janeway is a dumbass. Always shoving her nose into everyone's business. Could've gotten the crew home in the first episode.
billyboyjennings 9 months ago
@billyboyjennings "Don't focus on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory".
cranie4 8 months ago
@billyboyjennings
While killing an entire race of hundreds and thousands of people. Janeway is dumbass for not murdering them all? Riiight.
RoflmaoRob 7 months ago
@billyboyjennings Killing millions yeah moral ethics took side
chessman117 5 months ago
wow part of this i don't remember seeing... good scene!
blueray15 9 months ago
i LOL'd at the subtitles
Ransty101 9 months ago
why tom didn´t SPEAK ? I mean is his father for God´s sake !!!! like "dad Im alive!!! or I missed you or SOMETHING !!! He didn´t say anything !!!!
Sakuno01 9 months ago
@Sakuno01 Because he left on bad terms with his father and was shocked to hear him say I miss him.
twoface0 9 months ago
@twoface0 yes I know the relationship between them. It may be so ? the shock ? nevertheless .... he still didn´t say anything... no matter how "shocked" a person is; after years of not seeing family you suppose you can say something like yelling out "dad how are you" or "IM ALIVE" but geez... is just a show.... there´s nothing perfect in this world xD Im spacing out
Sakuno01 9 months ago
@Sakuno01 also they had only a limited amount of time before the Wormhole collapsed there wouldn't have been enough time for Tom to say anything
Jamescs007 8 months ago
@Sakuno01 also you have to remember Tom was a maqui during voyager
Jamescs007 7 months ago
@Jamescs007 No he wasn't. Janeway sprung him from the penal colony in New Zealand when the show started. Chakotay and Torres were the Maquis.
heymrk 7 months ago
I think Voyager had more bad episodes then good; as oppossed to tng and Ds9 who had more good then bad. Of course the episodes that did well "good year of hell" for example were very well written
KILLBILL1091 10 months ago
Janeway was unique because she was a scientist at heart, where picard and kirk were not.
mockhazzard 10 months ago
@mockhazzard Picard was a scientist too, an archeologist. (There's an episode about that but I forget the name. Also EU books but not everyone accepts those as canon.)
DataTasha4Ever 10 months ago
@DataTasha4Ever Ya but he really wasn't portrayed that way, at all. The Character may have a scientist background but thats not who Picard was. HE was a strategist and a man of Order. Janeway was portrayed at the "little scientist" on many of Voyager Episodes.
mockhazzard 10 months ago
@DataTasha4Ever Archaeology was one of his interests, among many others. But Picard worked his way up through the command track. Leadership, people management, diplomacy.
heymrk 7 months ago
I've only watched voyager. Loved the dynamics - and Kate Mulgrew was exceptional as Captain Janeway - very engaging character! From what I've seen of Picard, I find Janeway a little more interesting.
janxrey 10 months ago
Well I loved Patrick Steward way before I knew he was playing in ST, but ... I definitely would not compare all those captains. Each of them were unique in unique enviroment and that was by the way intesion of the makers of ST - to show very different storylines... comparing quallity of each series (voy, tng, ...) would be another question.
JohnyAngelo 10 months ago
Thank you :D
I think Voyager is one of the best Star Trek series ever!
Eliman18 11 months ago
@Eliman18 Woooo me too aha its the only one (Besides entreprise) That i could stand watching all the way through aha :D
OzAndWillow45 11 months ago
@OzAndWillow45 Enterprise (lol)
OzAndWillow45 11 months ago
Janeway was one of the worse captains there was. Her bridge crew were engaged in actions that put the ship at risk every other week - this was the woman who took her ship in Kazon territory to save a baby!
I'm surprised there wasnt a ship mutiny against her and the bridge crew!
ShoulderAB07 11 months ago
picard > janeway
gringolazlo 1 year ago
The term "best" is inappropriate. Personally, I like Picard the most, also I like Kirk of course, and I don't like Janeway. But I can see, why someone likes this one more than the others.
TheRealityJack 1 year ago
Reg is the best character in TNG maybe in all the ST series. "Well done, Mr. Broccoli....Barclay."
kohstamojahn 1 year ago
This was an epic scene in terms of emotion on Voyager. The writers really went all out in making it dramatic as possible without being cheesy. I love how everyone but Janeway is so speechless at making first contact with Starfleet after 6 years of waiting and Janeway sums it up with that one line "keep a docking bay open for us."
thisisrumorcontrol 1 year ago 4
We lose the sight of what is important about this piece of film... its well acted and very emotional. Brought more then one tear to my eye.
I don't know why it always ends up in conflict about what captain is better... It reminds me of when we did the same with superhero's when we were 6.
madcomic80 1 year ago 38
@madcomic80 We wouldn't if you'd all realize that Flash was better...
Bobopoa 8 months ago
Such a powerful and emotional scene. This is by far one of the best scenes of the entire series.
SulliMike241 1 year ago
uh, what episode is this?
MrConundrum2020 1 year ago
What's good about Federation is that anything can be accomplished. The tools are there. What's bad, is that the commanding officers are idiots and give up so fast. Reg was pushing for it and established contact. This is why Borg are beating the crap out of poor Federation. They don't give up if there are problems, they simply continue to work and find solutions.
PhotonicDoctor 1 year ago
oh Tom! the look on his face. he didn't even say hi to daddy. :P
and i agree, Janeway is an exceptional Captain. i've always been a picardist but i secretly prefer Janeway.
finally Reggie gets some recogniction. ^_^
LemonOdette 1 year ago
1:50 - 2:00 one of the most emotional moments of the series. Knowing that those brief 3 minutes of communication between Voyager and Starfleet will bring them so close to making it home after 6 years brings tears to the eyes. I love Janeway's line "Keep a docking bay open for us".
thisisrumorcontrol 1 year ago
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thisisrumorcontrol 1 year ago
Very moving :'-) Imagine how difficult it would be for Starfleet command to know that one of its ships was stranded so far away, and to be so totally incapable of helping its crew. Janeway is a soldier, 50000 light years back to the federation HELL YEAH! What a woman :-)
hanson666999 1 year ago 3
one of the most touching moments in the Voyager series
eddielung31 1 year ago
Sisko pwns Janeway
iamadamsusername 1 year ago
How did Wilhelm get to the 24th century?
tml4873 1 year ago
that was quite emotional :)
DIANAROSS4EVER 1 year ago
hard to say which captin is the best, but if i had to chose, it would be kirk, he had everything and it was kirk's mission to sleep with every alien beauty with in warp reach...respect to the man!
TheAlonzi 1 year ago
omg this still gives me goosebumps after years... :o
csadens777 1 year ago
:')
SwissAuraya 2 years ago
Wasn't Berkeley (aka Broccoli) in TNG as a loose cannon?
ziggydamaestro 2 years ago
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lamontgarrensn 2 years ago
Kirk was awesome - hero, diplomat etc - the whole package - oh I forgot lover too.
Picard, although well played by Patrick Stewart, was always caught up in StarFleet policy/protocols and that made him stodgy and a little boring at times. Sisko had wisdom beyond his years and Janeway was the humanist, and like Kirk, she was the risk taker and not afraid to break the Prime Directive (you'd never find Picard doing a deal with the Borg!). For me, Janeway wins.
deathcapped 2 years ago
deathcapped, but they bent the rules for Janeway. She got her ship too damaged too often. Her ship should have required service at a starbase many times but the ship would just magically be repaired by the next episode.
ndyt 2 years ago
This is the world of Science FICTION - so we can't have reality getting in the way of a good story. Besides, Voyager had repair mechs or robots that did lots of the repairs (forgotten the episode where you can see them on Voyager's surface - but they had landed on a planet).
Damaged ship, repairs...pfffff. This doesn't change the fact that I think Janeway was the best Captain. Like I said, Picard was the Starfleet fanboy, Sisko was enlightenment while Kirk and Janeway were real explorers.
deathcapped 2 years ago 3
deathcapped, both Picard and Kirk's Enterprise had to be repaired at a spacedock after major battles, so it doesn't fit with the rest of the Star Trek universe that Janeway didn't.
ndyt 2 years ago
but but but - there are no space docks in the delta quadrant, so it doesn't fit that she could stop..lol. Like I said - Voyager had repair mechs to crawl all over the surface to fix it.
deathcapped 2 years ago
@ndyt
i think its stupid to BUT there is a workable argument, voyager is tiny, theres a crew of a 140, constitution class is manned by 400 and the galaxy class needs a thousand people, while its absurd how much damage it took in deadlock for example, its plausable some of the time
ondank 1 year ago
@ondank, of course it is pausable some of the time, but there were several times it wasn't and she normally took too much risk, as if she could just call in backup or zip back to a starbase at any time. When you are alone you have to play it safe and she rarely did that. Was just too much for me but I watched every episode and enjoyed many of them.
ndyt 1 year ago
@ndyt
i know she didnt play it safe thats how we all know she was an evil genocidal bitch
ondank 1 year ago
Amazing, truly amazing. Finally, they made it.
RCarleyproductions 2 years ago 7
Janeway did just that, she visited Deck 15 of Voyager, the lowest deck, she rescued 3 crew members who slipped through the cracks on her ship who'd never been on an away-mission. Ep. 6x20 Good Shepard
Prfctdrk 2 years ago
People are often arguing about who was the best captain. I used to go with the crowd and say "Oh, Picard and Kirk, but probably Picard"
Then I thought about it. Who would I, personally, want as my captain. Who would I stand to duty for, even at death?
It would be the captain that I related to, the one who was kind, thoughtful and cared deeply about every induvidual aboard their ship. For who crew were not just numbers to be kept alive, but people to be cherished.
I would serve Janeway.
Treemeadow 2 years ago 17
@Treemeadow
I agree I loved Picard and Kirk, even Archer (who deserves more respect than most fans gave him!) However, Janeway was hands down my favorite! She was just a 'real' character that people could get behind because she could bring out the best in people. But when you think about it all of the SF Captains are really just reflections of us, people identify with them cause most of us see them as having qualities that we lack, most of us wish we could be more like them in some ways.
TopThrillTravis 2 years ago 9
@Treemeadow
I'd say all of the Captains (and Commander Sisco) were equally concerned with their crew's wellbeing. If they didn't form as close a bond with every individual it's probably because their ships were a fair bit larger and they weren't trapped with them for so long.
Restayvien 9 months ago
send the doctor threw
lockdrop565 2 years ago
I think there was an episode where they sent the doctor through.
SmoggyZilla 2 years ago
Im glad it was Reg that saved the day. he had alot of bad luck in TNG
spiderweb20 2 years ago 62
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COCKnoCKR can suck our COCKS, VOYAGER was the GREATEST SHOW EVER. So go fuck yourself bleh asshole.
RadiantSynergy 2 years ago
Life's too short...Stop the petty bullshit and get to what's real !!
TruSp0t 2 years ago
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Meh.
That sums up my feelings for Voyager.
Cocknockerofl 2 years ago
great episode :D
busss64 2 years ago 3
I disagree- Janeway has been the best Captain out of all Trek. She is the most human, and the least strict. She cared more for her crew than the other Captains, encountered the Borg more and got her ship back to Earth. If anything, she has been the most exceptional Captains ever and this scene is one of the best through out the series.
gamecock86 2 years ago 124
Picard cared about his crew just as much as Janeway. Picard was the best captain. Janeway in joint second with Kirk perhaps.
JayEey 2 years ago
I have to take issue with that statement to some degree. Picard was definitely a stand-up guy and a great captain, but Janeway brought something even more to her crew; a sense of unity and loyalty and family that no other captain ever quite matched. She had to deal with uniting the Maquee and star flete crews into one, then get them to hang with her on the voyage home. Besides, for me, Voyager had more episodes I'd call awesome than TNG, and I loved TNG a lot.
twosocks1976 2 years ago 7
Each Captain had his own personality to suit each situation he/she was in. Kirk was cocky lol and a good fighter. Picard was the epitome of starfleet, the explorer but a terrible fighter if he fought at all lol. Sisko, my personal favorite on my favorite show, HAD to be tough after all he dealt with, but had his moments as well. He was an EXCELLENT role model in all aspects especially on a personal level. Janeway was that way coz of her situation, STRANDED and alone people who hated starfleet
maratmasry 2 years ago 4
Archer was only respected by like two species lol. He had to be very open but on high alert a lot.
Peglegkickboxer 2 years ago
@gamecock86 Only because she had to have more of a motherly role with them so far away from their support system. I wouldn't recommend the way she ran her ship had they not gotten lost.
bamapagedesign 1 year ago
@gamecock86 AH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
KevServo 1 year ago
@gamecock86 she was one of the best captains LMAO , she is an insane bitch, she trapped her crew in the delta quadrant even though it was violating the prime directive, she didnt want to save a planet full of people from imanent destruction, she created a bio weapon to use against species 8472 she went genocidal on ransom she executed tuvix, sent harry on many a suicide mission, and oh yes said she would rather destroy her ship then share tech with the kazon, cares my ARSE
ondank 1 year ago
@ondank SO you judge her as a bad captain because she cuts through the bureaucratic crap and does the right thing? Tuvix was unnatural, she sacrificed 1 life to save 2, Species 8472 was a galactic threat, nobody cares about Harry, The Kazon were maniacs...they didn't stand for what Starfleet stands for.
LivesForJihad 1 year ago
@LivesForJihad she still executed someone against there will, that is exactly how the borg think, one life is more important then two , you cant mathematically make a decision on a morale issue, tuvix did not ask to be created but was, and had a right to life, species 8472 was a galatic threat but so were the borg and picard new it was wrong in "i borg" harry is a human and deserves to be treated right and your argument is flawed you critise starfleet but then say kazon cant have tech
ondank 1 year ago
@LivesForJihad coz they dont share starfleet values u cant have it both ways
ondank 1 year ago
@ondank Tuvix was not executed, he was healed. The Kazon would make war, not peace. The Borg, are not actually bad however...they are just a robotic race of machines that want to make everyone part of a non-exclusive club. They want perfection for everyone. They are like Space Democrats.
LivesForJihad 1 year ago
@LivesForJihad BULLSHIT , the borg force you to join there collective that is bad that is wrong and tuvix was a free individual he was a life and he had a choice and was of sane mind no one has the right to take that away from him, and as for the kazon, as far as i saw janeway seemed pretty keen on making war too
ondank 1 year ago
@ondank She wanted to defend her crew against the Kazon. Janeway wasn't stealing their technology...she even organized a peace summit for the Kazon. As for Tuvix...he was an accident...he needed to be fixed. Remember that big earwig that latched onto Bellana and the Doctor created that Holographic Cardassian named Krel Mosset to help him with the surgery? I guess we should have let Bellana die under your logic.
LivesForJihad 1 year ago 2
@LivesForJihad no one would have died in the case of tuvix, she executed a man, he was an accident, but a living accident in the same way a baby born after a condom splits is accident, that gives no right for someone else to take away that life after being created
ondank 1 year ago
@ondank I'm sorry, but what about Tuvok and Neelix? How does Tuvix get the right to deny THEM life?
tremedar 1 year ago
@tremedar
it still doesnt give her the right to execute him
two wrongs dont make a right
and just because tuvix is being selfish doesnt mean that its rights for janeway to undertake this action
ondank 1 year ago
@gamecock86 I must agree Janeway is BADASS she'll do anything and everything to save her crew even if it costs her her life.
Litrid 1 year ago
@gamecock86 I agree with you on most of your points except one, I don't think she cared the most for her crew than the other captains. Each one cared for their crew in one way or another just as much. Just my opinion.
dakotafrank 1 year ago
@gamecock86 She was probably the best captain, but the series itself ruined the Borg. They turned the Borg from a mortal enemy of the federation into just another day at the park.
MrMichael1701 1 year ago
@MrMichael1701 I have to agree that they went a bit too far in how much of an advantage we got over the Borg, but you can't have them stay as deadly as they have been until voyager forever. People want to see the idea that we're not helpless weaklings whose only reason to exist is to wait for something to kill us.
At the very least you should've expected that we would come into something that made it possible to stand toe to toe with the Borg, rather than the complete role reversal we got.
tremedar 1 year ago
That's bullshit.
All the Captain's were tough cookies with some emotional weaknesses.
Sisko was the least emotional; Janeaway merely reacted how anyone would act had they been lost in space for years on end but was overall serious as hell; Kirk was very tense when it came to something personal; Picard was edgy & often emotional when not commanding the bridge
WatchMyAwesomeVideos 1 year ago 4
@gamecock86 She may have been the most human, but also the most incompetent, and she was emotionally and mentally unstable.
IronHawk 1 year ago
@IronHawk
So would you be if you were 70 years from home in the middle of unexplored space, no back up, and limited supplies and power. But she still stuck to starfleet protocol.
ss3man1 1 year ago 2
@gamecock86 Sorry I got to go with Sisko being the best Captain out of all of them.Don't have anything majorly against Janeway(she had a few quirks that bugged me) but other than that she was okay.But my vote will always be with Sisko.
rtds9fan 1 year ago
@gamecock86 buuullllshhiiitttt. you dont know what your talking about. Voyager was poorly exicuted and writen, it was the soap opera of star trek. At most it should have been a mini series.
Janeway was a rediculus captin who would have been demoted in federation space. A star fleet captain has to be strict and fatherly these ships could destroy planets. And she didnt even get her ship home, the series was canceled so they rounded it off poorly. Picard rulez!
PUSSYInternational 1 year ago
@PUSSYInternational
Noob.
ss3man1 1 year ago
@PUSSYInternational
TOTALLY!
bridget3739 1 year ago
@PUSSYInternational
All the way!
bridget3739 1 year ago
@PUSSYInternational
are you fucking kiding me. voyager was the bomb, tng and tos where bettter, but voyager was still good. you just dont like it becuase there a chick in and command
chevron8locked 1 year ago
@chevron8locked haha yeah I play ukulele with abunch of girls ina group called pussy international I realy have a problem with girls in command. My firm stance is in a sense of humour, Iv enjoyed all S.T. but i stand by my comment that voyager was the soap opera of the series. TNG was based on the concept of a future community that had no need for money and was racially and alienly(?) diverse. Trying to reflect upon social climate in our day today lives. Voyager was no deeper than fly run shoot.
PUSSYInternational 1 year ago
@PUSSYInternational
BTW: Star TNG Star Trek DS9 and Star Trek Voyager all had seven seasons. Also all seven seasons had 26 episodes each in all 5 series. Just letting you know.
You say poorly written but how many people would have wanted it like the TNG series again. It was different!
They weren't in federation space they were over 75,000 light years from it. Also if notice over the course of the whole series she lightens up and actually an episode explains why, (I can't remember).
JustinDee13 1 year ago
@JustinDee13 sorry in all 3 series.
JustinDee13 1 year ago
@gamecock86 I saw the phrase, "Janeway has been the best Captain out of all Trek" and I nearly vomited.
Saibrock 1 year ago
@gamecock86 I actually find her and Picard to be tied for best captain. Each in their own way. But that's just my opinion. :-)
johnissoevil 1 year ago 3
@gamecock86 For me by far the best ST captain too. How she says goodbye to Nelix: pure leadership. And nice to see a woman in that leading role.
cornelisvz 1 year ago 14
@cornelisvz Interesting comment..."nice to see a woman in that leading role". Because I view both genders are equal....I never notice gender as something to either criticize or celebrate.
You may wish to consider this and become as enlightened as me.
Just a thought.....
mikefastener 11 months ago
@mikefastener Man and women are actually very different; for that reason all big companies in the world want a heterogenic board of directors; women often offer a different (not better or worse but different) point of view. My comment in this case, however, was based on all other ST captains who - as you know - are male. But I'm thrilled you feel enlightened.
cornelisvz 11 months ago
@cornelisvz Other ST captains were male? I guess I didn't notice! Oh well, I guess you being thrilled is now at least one adventure you have had in your life.
You're welcome.
mikefastener 11 months ago
@cornelisvz Hello... it's make believe that stupid thinking is why we here on earth are in such shit.
matrix49A 7 months ago
@gamecock86 She wasn't terrible. But she laid on her "nothing is more important than my family" routine on so thick, it eventually got monotonous.
bwana31 11 months ago
@gamecock86 Sorry man , she's awesome ,don't get me wrong ,but i like Picard 1% more. You can't deny u love him after first contact , I mean cmon. THE LINE MUST BE DRAWN HIAH!!!!!
exorder2005 11 months ago
@gamecock86 Voyager was one of the best Star Trek shows I've ever seen. Next up, Star Trek Enterprise.
Seattlecarnut 9 months ago
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@Seattlecarnut UBER LOL. Apparently you have seen these two only.
Satyros2009 6 months ago
Owhh perfect, man i loved this series so much, and i still do. Goosbumps everywhere. Perfect acting.
roelofjan1987 2 years ago 5
goosbumps through this whole scene.
sarek63 2 years ago 8
This was a good ep all around, however at this point in Voyagers run, the ship was only approx. 30,000 light years from earth, not 60,000. If Barclay was sending his transmission to where they THOUGHT Voyager was, how could they have possibly detected it over 30,000 light years away? That's my biggest complaint with this series, the blatant inconsistencies in writing! Otherwise, the actors always did a phenomenal job with what they had.
scooter1977 2 years ago
I believe they already encountered Voyager through the Doctor / EMH and the confrontation with the Prometheus. There were other writing errors, but after this occurrence they could project where they'd be. It's at least plausible.
Jacena 2 years ago
When the doctor was transferred to the Prometheus, Voy was 60k light years away. There's a line in Pathfinder, that if Voy averaged warp 6.2, they could reasonably assume they'd be in one of 3 sectors. At warp 6.2, Voyager would've only travelled approx 900 light years. IN season 5, they built a slipstream and stole technology from the borg, travelling over 30k light years. No way they should've been able to pick up that transmission. ;)
scooter1977 2 years ago
I (gladly) stand corrected then ~ chalk it up to more handy writers ~ don't get me started about the new movie :D
Thanks for the info.
Jacena 2 years ago
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JayEey 2 years ago
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Manchesterbadger you hit the nail right on the head. This is the most lifeless, dry, wooden performance I've ever seen! Poor acting, poor script, just a poor series all around.
audraelizabeth 2 years ago
A wonderful performance from Kate, who I think is a phenomenal actress. This scene gets me crying every time I see it. Even though a lot of people don't like "Voyager", I think it was a wonderful series.
trekgirl84 2 years ago 13
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This scene sums up the frustration I had with VOY. Great premise, yeah. But everyone in this scene out acts Mulgrew, she's as wooden and charmless as ever. In Trek you must get the Captain right and Voy and ENT both failed in this - Archer and Janeway were lifeless, uninspiring leaders.
manchesterbadger 2 years ago
Voyager and Enterprise were okay as a whole, lacking... but they had their moments. I completely agree regarding this scene. When I watched it, I thought the title was out of sarcasm! This is the moment the crew has been waiting for for 6 years, and the last word I would use to describe her performance here is "emotional". If you want actors that really bring their characters to life and really provoke emotions from that audience, and really leave you in tears when the series has completed. DS9.
AlphaBetaParkingLot 2 years ago
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I agree re: Archer &Janeway,they were both quite poor,Bakula was always wooden in "Quantum Leap",and has never improved as for the actress playing Janeway,can`t say i have seen her in anything before or since.The 2 best series were the original and TNG,both had good captains ,an excellent quality actor in Stewart and a charismatic in Shatner.
bazzatheblue 2 years ago
She is excellent. Watch 'Coda'
TomGreenUK 2 years ago 2
really. My dad hated all the new star treks. Yet he liked Voyger second to TOS. And Janeway was his favourite.
AuslandCharlie 2 years ago 3
there's one thing tos had and that was the best captain
cpt kirk is a legend and his first officer spock and the rest of the crew
the new star trek film is brilliant i was laughing due to the comedy in it
demonicnature 2 years ago
I felt let down with Endgame. I wanted to see Tom and his father re-united. Then again, there were many things with that series finale that sucked!
ThePhantom359 2 years ago 2
Voyager is awesome, TNG is not even close to voyager.
Triplethreat99 2 years ago
"We appreciate it Sir...keep a docking bay open for us..."
Great acting by Kate - really shows the sad-hope moment
beggarsu 2 years ago 11
And as a reward for all his work, Lt. Reginald Barclay was given extra holodeck hours (against Always a Counselor Troi's recommendations). He was last seen in hour 457 masturbating to Orion female porn.
hollywoodwerewolf 2 years ago 4
Voyager was badass. After any altercation, the Enterprises got fixed up at a starbase. Voyager was on its own for seven years.
amckechnie38 2 years ago 14
very, very interesting point there, that's something I just never thought about.
Slimer2x3 2 years ago 2
yeah but the Enterprises didn't go through cake walks exactly. 1701 went through all kinds of hell imaginable. the A went through some serious klingon hell. the B got f'd up by the nexus. 1701-C didn't make it home. 1701-D went through some serious tuffles with the borg. the enterprise-E went through worse stuff with the scimitar than what voyager went through in year of hell.
hoppers001 2 years ago
yes but voyager faced the borg and otehr enimeis alkso with to place to repair iytself tjhe enerpriswe coulkd be repaired when ever voyager was completely issolated for seven years
LordGazza123 2 years ago
this is what I think. if the enterprise can't make it through something, another ship can't do it. If voyager can the enterprise most definitely can.
hoppers001 2 years ago
Ha- there's an episode where the Voyager lands. The Enterprise can't :P
greengrendel 2 years ago 2
the enterprise doesn't need to land, it's a starship not a fighter craft.
hoppers001 2 years ago