That jiu jitsu expert is lucky that was a mat he landed on, otherwise his back would have been shattered to piecess and he would have been paralyzed for life. I have a feeling he would have struggled even against a fake professional wrestler.
if that was the situation then yes, but i belive thats the 3rd time the NFL player tapped out so... he would have won without getting his back broken.
@duracell394 Uhh no, that has happened to me and my Wrestling buddy on concrete, I got acouple scrapes and a big bruise but not shattered and a fake wrestler would get destroyed against a Jiu-Jitsu fighter
@jdude05 There’s a famous saying by the late Carlson Gracie; “Punch a jiu-jitsu black belt in the face, he becomes a brown belt. Punch him again, he becomes a purple…” The BJJ guy is just like anybody else, if he gets punched in the face, he could take it or it could be lights out for him. If striking was allowed, the BJJ guy would just have to try his best not to get hit.
it just goes to show ya that bjj is a good art for self defence or any grappling art for that matter. it can be used on bigger and stronger and faster people. if the nfl dude were to be experienced in bjj he would totally destroy this smaller guy because of his size and strength advantage, but because he did not have the same skill set as the smaller bjj guy he lost :) still a good fight though
@evanjb92 he can sprawl yeh, he's an athlete, maybe even with wrestling background, but the bjj guy is not wrestler! bjj guys usually don't have good takedowns. put him with chael sonnen and let's see how he sprawls. that's a wrong comparison. my example wasn't good either, but the main point is that in the fight time with punches and kicks involved, it's not as easy to sprawl. but yeh this guy is a good athlete.
@nodirbekable yeah chael sonnen would take him down easily. Idk whether he's a wrestler or not but it takes quite a while for the bjj guy to submit him. Either the nfl guy is very athletic or the bjj guy is not so skilled.
@nodirbekable the thing about using wrestling for takedowns, is just as I said "wrestling" against a beast you're not going to easily wrestle him and take him down. It works in MMA because the guys are the same size. Trying to get a takedown on a big mother#$# is not so easy. IMO i think judo would be more practical for takedowns. Personally, on guys that size I would have used leg locks and heel hooks. Thats my bread n butter when I have to take on Goliaths like that guy. wheww
@Doug31415 Why would they want to see who the better grappler is when they know that the BJJ guy will win 10 out of 10 times. The whole point of BJJ is to control and defeat a bigger opponent. Plus the big guy obviously hasn't grappled before so why would they even assume that he could win.
@JakeMMABJJ Yes, you said, "They only did this to prove that Gracie Jiu Jitsu is an effective martial art, not to see who had better skills." Wouldn't being good at BJJ mean you have better skills?
BJJ will destroy any of those useless atheletes. They like to showboat, we like to break people in half. We deserve to have no respect for any sport other than MMA. GSP said it himself the only sport that is worth watching is combat sports. ^^ hate me if you like fact is fact.
@jamesellis33 this is my second comment to you BTW. This is the video i was talking about. Marcello is an amazing BJJ practitioner.. But it doesn't give him that much of an advantage in this fight /watch?v=5XnxzBx519Y. Just put youtube dot com in front of that link to view it.
Maybe exhibitions like these were relevant in 1993, but not today. Jiu jitsu vs NFL is like ballet vs rock climbing: they're totally different skill sets. No surprise that the football player got out-grappled. To make this fair the jiu jitsu guy should try to protect a pocket.
@Doug31415 Agreeing with you but adding to the argument. We could look at people who went into mma who were nfl players. Marcus Jones who made it to the finals of the ultimate fighter. Bob Sapp who is 11-6 fighting professionally. Herschel Walker who started competeing at 47 and stands currently at 2-0. Wes Shivers 8-1. Brendan Schaub 3-1. Matt Mitrone who is currently 4-0. It is absolutely not fair comparing someone with no grappling experience with someone who has none.
@newbiE24 yeah, on concrete, it would def beover cause he'd slam out of submissions. The only reason why the BJJ guy started kicking his ass later in the video, is because the NFL player was out of stamina. But def with punches the big dude would win with ground and pound.
@MmaNcovers Slam him out? Hahaha you know nothing of gjj. If he tryed he would just switch out into a heel sweep and take mount. Besides it's an unfair fight. Ones trained in fightng/self defence and the other guy plays a game. btw if you cant tell by this video the bjj is going easy.
@30Zoidberg NYCBJJ dot com... That's where i train dude, a renzo Gracie academy. Heel sweep to mount?U mean just like arona did to rampage right... before he got powerbombed. A fight is a fight, not a bjj match.. Advantages don't come from skill alone. Athleticism and power can compensate for skill. U mean to tell me that brock lesnar was more skilled than frank mir? Frank mir's skill set is much better than brocks, but brock smashed his face in by overwhelming him and utilizing ground n pound.
@MmaNcovers I dont care where you train. Ok arona trained jj not gjj totaly differnt. Frank mir for the record made lesner tap the first time they fought AND mirs base is sambo. gjj you should know traines moslty on the ground. Brock lesner is a wreslting GOD hes amazing for his weight to move that fast no wonder he beat mir.Lesner? did mir get him in a triangle? the point is if someone picks you up from a triangle just go with the flow let go and try again dont hold on and get smashed.
@30Zoidberg whatever dude... Alot of what you're saying is easier said than done. I love BJJ, that's why i do it, however i know what kind of opponents have advantages on me, due to their size and power.
@MmaNcovers brock trained with a bjj world champ for 6 months, and they specifically trained how to neutralize frank from half guard like he did. it took skill son
@ZooYork258 yeah dude. but my point was that in a real fight the BJJ guy most likely wouldn't be able to secure a solid submission when he's on concrete getting stomped and punched in the face.
@MmaNcovers try training for yourself man. you will see how it really is. One of my coaches is a cop. he does this for a living. you can watch all the videos you want and it wont prove anything. Give it a try for a full solid week under a good teacher and then see what you opinion is. I highly recommend it
@jbachum I've trained at a Renzo Gracie academy in Staten island New york.. I understand how useful bjj if everything is done perfectly. But i also understand how pure athleticism, with basic knowledge of fighting is dangerous.. In a real fight the BJJ guy MIGHT get the best of this football player, however "you're not going to tame someone of that size without getting fucked up." Years ago Ryan gracie told my instructor those exact words when Ryan was giving props to a very muscular guy.
@MmaNcovers Well If he has basic knowledge its a different kind of fight. I only have one training partner thats my size the rest of them are way heavier than me. With bigger guys its way better to be on top XD I only pull guard with someone bigger than me if its their first time training or im really confident in my sweeps lol
but in any street fight you cant expect not to take a hit.
@MmaNcovers in rl all he have to do is drop into a heel crank and snap the nfl guys acl in half. Against large guys like this leg locks are just a give away, theres nothing but leg. I mean i've resorted to this several times against larger opponents and they always meet the ground head first. If I wanted to I could snap their leg in half. If we were talking about a excellent grappler even scarier. Nah, these muscle heads deserve no respect. Martial arts is the only activity that counts.pfft nfl
@jamesellis33 i understand. But in a real fight BJJ will not always prevail against size and strength.. Look what happened to marcello garcia when he did mma.
@MmaNcovers BJJ will always prevail unless the BJJ guy is knocked out be a sneeky punch. That is the only way a person could beat a bjj guy, IF the BJJ guy performs the techniques properly. Which in your defense is pretty hard to do while someone is punching you.
Fact, when Bjj came to town in the days, they always said, We can do this and you can't do that making it fit their way of wrestling and limiting others from using their taught skills. We said NO thanks. But took what we could, the stuff that works because no artist knows it all. Period..
@ the subgamer it's not 1984 anymore. In a street fight Bjj versus a boxer the boxer will be the pussy. Do you think Highly trained Bjj guys just stand still and let people hit em in the face lol a take down can break the neck and the spine. I don't consider that pussy in a street fight. Kickboxing on the other hand us legite.
The big guy wanted to grapple and he lost. The Bjj guy would have caused severe injury to his leg on the first take down the submission was secured and the big guy tapped in less than 20 seconds. If you think we don't learn how to use knees and elbows your mistaken. If he would have caught that guy in a triangle or if he would have taken his back that big guy would have taken so many elbows to the back of the head he would be unconscious before the choke. The choke is for people who will not st
Untrained? That's Gill i believe and he has fought in the UFC. As far as punches and anything goes watch UFC 1-10. Oh, btw, modern practioners of BJJ would welcome no-holds bar to brawler noobies.
yo dude definitelly put more videos of this on here it shows how true the art of jiu jitsu is that you can take down anyone no matter their stength or size
the guy should have broke his neck just to prove a point and that football players are not the powerful ones. mixed martial arts is a way of life the more you learn the more powerful you get. technique over powers strength. ppl think football is the best is because it has a bigger fan base. mma fighting has been presented to the ppl since 1993 and look how its been growing for sort period of time. soon mma fighting will be the biggest fan based sport in the world trust me on that.
@Kunemkez323 i dont know about breaking his neck lol, but yeah man its weird that after half a decade of dominance people still dont give props to jitz, they choose to remain completely ignorant about the groundgame and they just say its "gay" but honestly man thats better for us lol
@steroidsR4shitheads Just bite him well he's choking you out? or breaking your limbs? its not wise to piss off a guy that has your life or limb in his hands.
Probably the same type of semi-skilled people he could beat in BJJ. Though I'd say if they were striking he'd have toasted this BJJ guy in the first 10-15 sec. when the BJJ guy was unable to take him down. Beginning of video.
Bjj in terms of self defense is excellent. It teaches you to control your attacker and put him in positions that make it hard to hurt you. While at the same time you could kill, break bones, or put the attacker to sleep. Keep in mind in a street fight your attacker even if they watch countless tapes of UFC will not know how to defend a Kimura. Lol
Its silly when people say bjj won't work in a street fight because of concrete! I've been & seen countless street fights & they always at some point ended up on the ground. I took wing chun kungfu/kempo karate/boxing/ & Bjj. And bjj without a doubt help me the most. In terms of the clinch, controlling your balance, being on your back no art will prepare you like bjj.
lets see the big guy charges the bjj guy and pick him up and bang his head against the wall, if this was a truly rage pumped street fight the 'NFL' guy could have definitely done that from the beginning. But yeah BJJ is the best.
what you BJJ people dont seem to understand, is that a padded floor is not concrete. that slam down to the ground while he was clinging to his back, would have hurt him a lot more, when his face was on the mat, his skin would have been ground off, grappling in all its forms is a great tool for self defense, but only to keep from getting to the ground, or to get back off the ground if it is taken there.
Well thats completely wrong. Im a "BJJ person" and I know full well that a padded floor is not concrete.
But we are not girls, a bit of skin grazing is not going to bother us in the slightest. I know this because Ive sparred on concrete once.
And if I was the guy on the NFL guys back, I wouldve unwrapped my hooks and stood up, bent him backwards and either finish the choke from standing or walk him back to the ground and finish it there, reinserting my hooks.
evidently the nfl player doesnt know any subs ... so pretty much he would be defending until he is caught in something... I see a guy with defense and offense vs a guy who doesnt know wtf he is doing but holding another guy off
OK im sure the the smaller dude has been sparring alot with big opponents who know how to roll. So this is just having fun, cos they both and everybody else knows whos better.
I've been training in Jiu-Jitsu for about 4 months now and its quite effictive. I can however see the main weakness in it is that in a street fight there's a realtivly high chance you will have multiple attackers and so far what I have learned has only taught me how to focus on one attacker. I know the basics of how to take down and submit a single attacker but I admit at this point in my training I'm realtivly clueless as to how I would handle multiple attackers.
@MercuryMorrison1 its called run-jitsu lol... if u get into a fight against multiple attackers and thats not the first thought u have... u deserve to get pounded on
grappling is awesome , i'm trained in kick boxing and when i was taken down i was thinking WTF, what should i do know...after getting my ass kick ,i also learned jujitsu bhwahahah
@whatsflawless You don't understand the whole point of martial arts. the first thing they teach you is to retreat and call for help. Every form of fighting always teach this rule.
Even during robberies, the robber will hold the gun near gun near reaching range. That is where forms like krav maga will out play an inexperience gun user.
also most street fight will happen in less than 30 seconds. The majority of them don't involve weapons of any kind.
@HCNguyen86 i do martial arts. i understand. i also understand that if you think all martial art schools teach that then you are living in a dream world. Yes and what if they just shoot you 10 feet away? you wont know when it is going to happen. i never said martial art is useless, dont put words in my mouth. if you have a gun on you and your concealed to carry. you are deadly.I dont care how much martial arts you know. And i wanna be an Aikido teachr and a Judo teacher. haha.
@whatsflawless 10 feet? Is this a war zone? Unless someone has a grudge against you and want you dead, there isn't much you can do martial arts wise or anything else for that matter. An amateur gun man can easily be disarmed by a skilled krav maga practitioner at close range. No one is going to aim a gun at you 10 feet away and ask for money... Martial art is useful in the real world and as a philosophy.
9 out of 10 daily confrontations will not involve any guns.
hahaha i remember when my big football friend thought my traditional Japanese Judo/Jiu jitsu wouldnt work against him tackling me on the ground....lmao wow, i fight on the ground and thats where he brought it...i must say he felt embarrassed when he woke up after a choke
@MelonNun The point? It's that a small, relatively weak man can overcome genetic limitations to overpower a larger, much stronger man **with training**.
@mruck05 Watch Royce Gracie in early UFC -- where hair pulling, groin strikes, and yes even face punches were allowed -- and you'll see how correct my statement was.
@ijust1 Royce Gracie was easily one of the best BJJ practitioners in the world, however if you watch modern fighters, jiu jistu alone is usually not enough. No fighter would make it in any mma promotion now a days with just BJJ, to be a true fighter you have to use aspects from all the different martial arts
@tad284 No. The rules of UFC 1 were no groin strikes, no eyes gouging, and no fish hooks. It was never legal, dipshit. If it was, why didn't anyone use it when they were losing?
@TenteixSaigo Groin strikes were not banned until UFC 15. Watch "Keith Hackney vs Joe Son" at UFC 4. Hackney lands hard, repeated, intentional punches directly to Joe Son's crotch near the end of the match.
Ironic. I would think twice before calling someone more knowledgeable than you a "dipshit".
@ijust1 Again, they were illegal. Shots to the PELVIS were not. Had he hit him in the balls he would have been disqualified. I will not apollogize, dipshit.
@TenteixSaigo Uh, some of them were. Some of them weren't. watch?v=57Mva-3n7TY
He was CLEARLY throwing groin shots. Some of them just missed. No one gets in that position and thinks "A devastating shot to the pelvis will save me!"
@TenteixSaigo Groin shots were illegal in UFC 1 but were made legal in UFC 2, and were kept legal for several subsequent events. There was no protocol for disqualifying fighters, anyway, so they could pretty much get away with anything.
As for Hackney's punches being "above the groin," I say that you should get your head out of your ass.
@mruck05 If the NFL player could strike then so could the BJJ guy right? So when he took his back and flattened him out he could have just punched him until he was out. Same result.
@tuopvm No not the same result, the second and third time they rolled the NFL player had him on his back first, but since he is untrained he had no idea what to do with him. If he could have stuck him I'm sure it would have been over soon after. I don't care how well trained you are big fist coming down on your head will make you think twice about your life choices.
@greenidmonster1 You clearly don't watch mma much or do bjj do you? If you did you would realize how ignorant your comments are. Watch The first 2 rolls were over in less than a minute and the NFL player was to off base to land an effective strike anyway. He also controlled his wrist. And yes he would still be at a disadvantage if there were strikes. It would have been striking and bjj against just striking. The bjj guy would still be up two weapons to the NFL guys one.
@mruck05 any half decent self defense gym will teach defence against eye gouging biteing groin strikes and all that jazz and BJJ is a self defence art my gym takes that very seriously
@mruck05 well look at it this way if he can punch and gouge so can the BJJ guy so by that right if the bjj guy is beating him without using those strikes then logic dictates that giving the bjj more tools to use will increase his chances. For more proof look at the forst 3 UFC when there were no rules other than bitting and eye gouging
@mruck05 Dumbest comment I've ever seen in my life. You want an "actual fight", but you want to ALLOW the guy to be punched? Are you fucking retarded?
Only grapplers do this shit... you never see videos pop up on youtube of some boxer doing this to an untrained fighter. It's really sad actually. Grapplers try so desperately to find acceptance.
Lol Jiu Jitzu guy is lucky punching was not allowed or it would have been lights out for him haha.
wellcoolbeans21 1 day ago
That jiu jitsu expert is lucky that was a mat he landed on, otherwise his back would have been shattered to piecess and he would have been paralyzed for life. I have a feeling he would have struggled even against a fake professional wrestler.
duracell394 2 weeks ago
if that was the situation then yes, but i belive thats the 3rd time the NFL player tapped out so... he would have won without getting his back broken.
slayerA0D 1 week ago
@duracell394 Uhh no, that has happened to me and my Wrestling buddy on concrete, I got acouple scrapes and a big bruise but not shattered and a fake wrestler would get destroyed against a Jiu-Jitsu fighter
parks2000 1 week ago
@parks2000 I know of people who have been paralyzed from being slammed. It depends how hard it is and how much bigger the guy doing it to you is.
duracell394 1 week ago
fake
jesse9599 2 weeks ago
@jesse9599 what you find fake ?
avezaya 10 hours ago
What model of toaster was this filmed with?
MrNovacain1 2 weeks ago
@barrettokarate bjj guys hit back these days. Go back to your kata and quit trolling bjj videos
sreagan6604 2 weeks ago
in the beginning the nfl guy just kept shoving the bjj guy-- what happens if he just punched the bjj guy in a real fight?
jdude05 3 weeks ago
@jdude05 There’s a famous saying by the late Carlson Gracie; “Punch a jiu-jitsu black belt in the face, he becomes a brown belt. Punch him again, he becomes a purple…” The BJJ guy is just like anybody else, if he gets punched in the face, he could take it or it could be lights out for him. If striking was allowed, the BJJ guy would just have to try his best not to get hit.
barrettokarate 2 weeks ago
the nfl player wasnt bad if he were a novice, if he knew anything then hes shit so all deppends
w8ngr 1 month ago
it just goes to show ya that bjj is a good art for self defence or any grappling art for that matter. it can be used on bigger and stronger and faster people. if the nfl dude were to be experienced in bjj he would totally destroy this smaller guy because of his size and strength advantage, but because he did not have the same skill set as the smaller bjj guy he lost :) still a good fight though
TheDannyddd 1 month ago
nfl guy was much better than many other martial artists (at least he knows takedown defense)
evanjb92 1 month ago
@evanjb92 he can sprawl yeh, he's an athlete, maybe even with wrestling background, but the bjj guy is not wrestler! bjj guys usually don't have good takedowns. put him with chael sonnen and let's see how he sprawls. that's a wrong comparison. my example wasn't good either, but the main point is that in the fight time with punches and kicks involved, it's not as easy to sprawl. but yeh this guy is a good athlete.
nodirbekable 1 month ago
@nodirbekable yeah chael sonnen would take him down easily. Idk whether he's a wrestler or not but it takes quite a while for the bjj guy to submit him. Either the nfl guy is very athletic or the bjj guy is not so skilled.
evanjb92 1 month ago
@nodirbekable the thing about using wrestling for takedowns, is just as I said "wrestling" against a beast you're not going to easily wrestle him and take him down. It works in MMA because the guys are the same size. Trying to get a takedown on a big mother#$# is not so easy. IMO i think judo would be more practical for takedowns. Personally, on guys that size I would have used leg locks and heel hooks. Thats my bread n butter when I have to take on Goliaths like that guy. wheww
jamesellis33 2 weeks ago
@evanjb92 i would agree :)
TheDannyddd 1 month ago
this was filmed with a potato.
mattlikesgraciebarra 2 months ago
@Doug31415 Why would they want to see who the better grappler is when they know that the BJJ guy will win 10 out of 10 times. The whole point of BJJ is to control and defeat a bigger opponent. Plus the big guy obviously hasn't grappled before so why would they even assume that he could win.
JakeMMABJJ 2 months ago
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@JakeMMABJJ Yes, you said, "They only did this to prove that Gracie Jiu Jitsu is an effective martial art, not to see who had better skills." Wouldn't being good at BJJ mean you have better skills?
Doug31415 2 months ago
@JakeMMABJJ i totally agree.
TheDannyddd 1 month ago
BJJ will destroy any of those useless atheletes. They like to showboat, we like to break people in half. We deserve to have no respect for any sport other than MMA. GSP said it himself the only sport that is worth watching is combat sports. ^^ hate me if you like fact is fact.
jamesellis33 2 months ago
@jamesellis33 this is my second comment to you BTW. This is the video i was talking about. Marcello is an amazing BJJ practitioner.. But it doesn't give him that much of an advantage in this fight /watch?v=5XnxzBx519Y. Just put youtube dot com in front of that link to view it.
MmaNcovers 2 months ago
@MmaNcovers Thats because Dae Won Kim is a Judo player, and most people dont realise that Judo players have a fairly good ground game.
JakeMMABJJ 2 months ago
@jamesellis33 Exactly, I would give ten thumbs up if i could.
JakeMMABJJ 2 months ago
Don't record videos with potatoes, please. Along with watching people fight, it makes me hungry.
rickmcdonalled 2 months ago
that looks like gil castillo, out of caesar gracie's camp...
akatheinfamous 2 months ago
the dudes obviously had a little bit of training
MrZbeckmann 2 months ago
wheres the NFL I didn't see any black guys
maxisking2 3 months ago 2
@maxisking2 LMAO!!!
dromezz1993 2 months ago
what guy from the nfl is this?
MIXEDUPTHROWNTOGETHR 3 months ago
Maybe exhibitions like these were relevant in 1993, but not today. Jiu jitsu vs NFL is like ballet vs rock climbing: they're totally different skill sets. No surprise that the football player got out-grappled. To make this fair the jiu jitsu guy should try to protect a pocket.
Doug31415 3 months ago
@Doug31415 Agreeing with you but adding to the argument. We could look at people who went into mma who were nfl players. Marcus Jones who made it to the finals of the ultimate fighter. Bob Sapp who is 11-6 fighting professionally. Herschel Walker who started competeing at 47 and stands currently at 2-0. Wes Shivers 8-1. Brendan Schaub 3-1. Matt Mitrone who is currently 4-0. It is absolutely not fair comparing someone with no grappling experience with someone who has none.
freakonaleash21292 3 months ago
@freakonaleash21292 Not knocking cross-overs at all.
Doug31415 3 months ago
@freakonaleash21292 i don't think any of those guys have jiu-jitsu training(from what i know) linemen make good wrestlers though
MIXEDUPTHROWNTOGETHR 3 months ago
@Doug31415 They only did this to prove that Gracie Jiu Jitsu is an effective martial art, not to see who had better skills.
JakeMMABJJ 2 months ago
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Doug31415 2 months ago
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@JakeMMABJJ You don't think the point of this demonstration is to see who the better grappler was?
Doug31415 2 months ago
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he picked his nose @1:49
RiONfromHeLL 3 months ago
Which Pixel won?
MrPipes14 4 months ago 25
for standing up and falling backwards he should have choked him all the way out.
PandawdyBob 4 months ago
i think in a real fight the NFL player would win.
MmaNcovers 4 months ago
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he would. he tackled him 100 times down. just need some puchnes and fight would end very soon. the bjj guy can do shit.
newbiE24 4 months ago
@newbiE24 yeah, on concrete, it would def beover cause he'd slam out of submissions. The only reason why the BJJ guy started kicking his ass later in the video, is because the NFL player was out of stamina. But def with punches the big dude would win with ground and pound.
MmaNcovers 4 months ago
@MmaNcovers Slam him out? Hahaha you know nothing of gjj. If he tryed he would just switch out into a heel sweep and take mount. Besides it's an unfair fight. Ones trained in fightng/self defence and the other guy plays a game. btw if you cant tell by this video the bjj is going easy.
30Zoidberg 3 months ago
@30Zoidberg NYCBJJ dot com... That's where i train dude, a renzo Gracie academy. Heel sweep to mount?U mean just like arona did to rampage right... before he got powerbombed. A fight is a fight, not a bjj match.. Advantages don't come from skill alone. Athleticism and power can compensate for skill. U mean to tell me that brock lesnar was more skilled than frank mir? Frank mir's skill set is much better than brocks, but brock smashed his face in by overwhelming him and utilizing ground n pound.
MmaNcovers 3 months ago
@MmaNcovers I dont care where you train. Ok arona trained jj not gjj totaly differnt. Frank mir for the record made lesner tap the first time they fought AND mirs base is sambo. gjj you should know traines moslty on the ground. Brock lesner is a wreslting GOD hes amazing for his weight to move that fast no wonder he beat mir.Lesner? did mir get him in a triangle? the point is if someone picks you up from a triangle just go with the flow let go and try again dont hold on and get smashed.
30Zoidberg 3 months ago
@30Zoidberg whatever dude... Alot of what you're saying is easier said than done. I love BJJ, that's why i do it, however i know what kind of opponents have advantages on me, due to their size and power.
MmaNcovers 3 months ago
@MmaNcovers watch this one: ?v=fIDmNMisXQc
with time i learned to respect that Brock Lesnar guy. today i recognize him not only as a very strong fighter, but skilled too.
luisbaltazar1 3 months ago
@MmaNcovers brock trained with a bjj world champ for 6 months, and they specifically trained how to neutralize frank from half guard like he did. it took skill son
beargrylls3 3 months ago
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ZooYork258 4 months ago
@ZooYork258 yeah dude. but my point was that in a real fight the BJJ guy most likely wouldn't be able to secure a solid submission when he's on concrete getting stomped and punched in the face.
MmaNcovers 4 months ago
@MmaNcovers have you ever watched the orignal ufc's i think there worth a peek
thehomecomedy 3 months ago
@MmaNcovers try training for yourself man. you will see how it really is. One of my coaches is a cop. he does this for a living. you can watch all the videos you want and it wont prove anything. Give it a try for a full solid week under a good teacher and then see what you opinion is. I highly recommend it
jbachum 3 months ago
@jbachum I've trained at a Renzo Gracie academy in Staten island New york.. I understand how useful bjj if everything is done perfectly. But i also understand how pure athleticism, with basic knowledge of fighting is dangerous.. In a real fight the BJJ guy MIGHT get the best of this football player, however "you're not going to tame someone of that size without getting fucked up." Years ago Ryan gracie told my instructor those exact words when Ryan was giving props to a very muscular guy.
MmaNcovers 3 months ago
@MmaNcovers Well If he has basic knowledge its a different kind of fight. I only have one training partner thats my size the rest of them are way heavier than me. With bigger guys its way better to be on top XD I only pull guard with someone bigger than me if its their first time training or im really confident in my sweeps lol
but in any street fight you cant expect not to take a hit.
jbachum 3 months ago
@MmaNcovers in rl all he have to do is drop into a heel crank and snap the nfl guys acl in half. Against large guys like this leg locks are just a give away, theres nothing but leg. I mean i've resorted to this several times against larger opponents and they always meet the ground head first. If I wanted to I could snap their leg in half. If we were talking about a excellent grappler even scarier. Nah, these muscle heads deserve no respect. Martial arts is the only activity that counts.pfft nfl
jamesellis33 2 months ago
@jamesellis33 i understand. But in a real fight BJJ will not always prevail against size and strength.. Look what happened to marcello garcia when he did mma.
MmaNcovers 2 months ago
@MmaNcovers BJJ will always prevail unless the BJJ guy is knocked out be a sneeky punch. That is the only way a person could beat a bjj guy, IF the BJJ guy performs the techniques properly. Which in your defense is pretty hard to do while someone is punching you.
JakeMMABJJ 2 months ago
that football player probably wrestled but he has no chance lol who is he anyway?
Djulian54 4 months ago
nice fights!
hercmet 4 months ago
mr bjj has mad skills. i'm only a blue belt but i can tell this guy is GOOD
p2rider426 4 months ago
I love the triangle choke because I always end up in the guard god dammit! Can usually do it on someone who is aware of it though:)
shonuffisthemaster 4 months ago
I think this NFL guy has had some training. He had a nice sprawl at one point.
onemortal 4 months ago
1:53
thought he killed the man.
hungryhobo12321 4 months ago
BJJ is a technical, scientific martial art system... Why would anyone think the Football guy would stand any chance??? =P
ChamorruWarrior 4 months ago
if the nfl guy wouldve jumped higher and landed on his back like that at the end there would be broken ribs for sure.....
igottagivesomething 5 months ago
@igottagivesomething You learn how to break falls in BJJ... so no.
DESERTFOXX252 4 months ago
Fact, when Bjj came to town in the days, they always said, We can do this and you can't do that making it fit their way of wrestling and limiting others from using their taught skills. We said NO thanks. But took what we could, the stuff that works because no artist knows it all. Period..
KidsKicksforChrist 5 months ago
damn @ taking a picture at 1:54 of the NFL guy on the bottom and in a head lock. Exposed.
Shorty20122012 5 months ago
Those BJJ moves would sure suck on an NFL field. Sheesh.
redbulldog 5 months ago
Eye gouging and punches to the face? And the football player has an extra advantage in those areas why?
ambartrew 5 months ago
What belt are you
redbude 5 months ago
@ the subgamer it's not 1984 anymore. In a street fight Bjj versus a boxer the boxer will be the pussy. Do you think Highly trained Bjj guys just stand still and let people hit em in the face lol a take down can break the neck and the spine. I don't consider that pussy in a street fight. Kickboxing on the other hand us legite.
Ikecantstop1 5 months ago
The big guy wanted to grapple and he lost. The Bjj guy would have caused severe injury to his leg on the first take down the submission was secured and the big guy tapped in less than 20 seconds. If you think we don't learn how to use knees and elbows your mistaken. If he would have caught that guy in a triangle or if he would have taken his back that big guy would have taken so many elbows to the back of the head he would be unconscious before the choke. The choke is for people who will not st
Ikecantstop1 5 months ago
what if the bjj guy goes to the nfl? lol jk
txnhb 6 months ago 17
the linebacker can just charge the shit out of bjj
osamabinpawning123 6 months ago
@osamabinpawning123 haters gonna hate
TrianglechokeVT 5 months ago
@TrianglechokeVT im not hating lol
osamabinpawning123 5 months ago
all the NFL guy needs to do is fall on the other guy lololol
jacker372 6 months ago
Untrained? That's Gill i believe and he has fought in the UFC. As far as punches and anything goes watch UFC 1-10. Oh, btw, modern practioners of BJJ would welcome no-holds bar to brawler noobies.
g173df 6 months ago
Royce Gracie can choke out superman
dazzassj7 6 months ago
yo dude definitelly put more videos of this on here it shows how true the art of jiu jitsu is that you can take down anyone no matter their stength or size
TheLaLakers247 6 months ago
the guy should have broke his neck just to prove a point and that football players are not the powerful ones. mixed martial arts is a way of life the more you learn the more powerful you get. technique over powers strength. ppl think football is the best is because it has a bigger fan base. mma fighting has been presented to the ppl since 1993 and look how its been growing for sort period of time. soon mma fighting will be the biggest fan based sport in the world trust me on that.
Kunemkez323 6 months ago in playlist BJJ vs
@Kunemkez323 i dont know about breaking his neck lol, but yeah man its weird that after half a decade of dominance people still dont give props to jitz, they choose to remain completely ignorant about the groundgame and they just say its "gay" but honestly man thats better for us lol
sharkfinnigan 6 months ago
BJJ just know how to finish a guy on the ground...
stephan3214 6 months ago
@stephan3214
Who cares where they are when they're finished?
sheep2slaughter 6 months ago
@steroidsR4shitheads Just bite him well he's choking you out? or breaking your limbs? its not wise to piss off a guy that has your life or limb in his hands.
35503550 6 months ago
football is gay
motley818 6 months ago
@motley818 your gay
Threebanditos 6 months ago
Punching allowed, i think the big guy wins
WilkersonZC 6 months ago
lol... of course you do because every uneducated hater thinks bjj guys dont know how to throw a punch,cuz thats so hard to learn buddy. lolz
TrianglechokeVT 5 months ago
thats crazy that he triangle choked him... choking a opponent with wide shoulders is a very hard thing to do. especially cause hes so small
garrettjiujitsu 6 months ago
I hope they were using condoms.
versutiae 6 months ago
What if the big guy is trained?
Brohem0th 6 months ago
@Brohem0th What if the trained guy was big?? Total domi-fuckin-ation
9thDilla 6 months ago
Look at the size difference! , and the small guy still won
ggem333 7 months ago
Now let's see a video of the BJJ guy trying to stand in front of this NFL player on the one-yard line. and see what happens
JohnLeeMD 7 months ago
I'm a stand-up fighter, but damn, I want to try BJJ so much. It seems to be pretty exciting, and not to mention that it is indispensable.
ComputerJA 7 months ago
You have to wonder of many karoddy guys this big football dude would just absolutely destroy in a fight.
Eastbay007 7 months ago
@Eastbay007
Probably the same type of semi-skilled people he could beat in BJJ. Though I'd say if they were striking he'd have toasted this BJJ guy in the first 10-15 sec. when the BJJ guy was unable to take him down. Beginning of video.
Xandralina69 7 months ago
Bjj in terms of self defense is excellent. It teaches you to control your attacker and put him in positions that make it hard to hurt you. While at the same time you could kill, break bones, or put the attacker to sleep. Keep in mind in a street fight your attacker even if they watch countless tapes of UFC will not know how to defend a Kimura. Lol
gungfu777 7 months ago
Its silly when people say bjj won't work in a street fight because of concrete! I've been & seen countless street fights & they always at some point ended up on the ground. I took wing chun kungfu/kempo karate/boxing/ & Bjj. And bjj without a doubt help me the most. In terms of the clinch, controlling your balance, being on your back no art will prepare you like bjj.
gungfu777 7 months ago
lets see the big guy charges the bjj guy and pick him up and bang his head against the wall, if this was a truly rage pumped street fight the 'NFL' guy could have definitely done that from the beginning. But yeah BJJ is the best.
enemay 7 months ago
what you BJJ people dont seem to understand, is that a padded floor is not concrete. that slam down to the ground while he was clinging to his back, would have hurt him a lot more, when his face was on the mat, his skin would have been ground off, grappling in all its forms is a great tool for self defense, but only to keep from getting to the ground, or to get back off the ground if it is taken there.
1911Zombieslayer 7 months ago
@1911Zombieslayer
Well thats completely wrong. Im a "BJJ person" and I know full well that a padded floor is not concrete.
But we are not girls, a bit of skin grazing is not going to bother us in the slightest. I know this because Ive sparred on concrete once.
And if I was the guy on the NFL guys back, I wouldve unwrapped my hooks and stood up, bent him backwards and either finish the choke from standing or walk him back to the ground and finish it there, reinserting my hooks.
These are noobs.
SkemeKOS 7 months ago
lol 0:30 frank mir and brock lesnar
towap0 7 months ago
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INexasI 7 months ago
@INexasI : Royce Gracie proved your statement wrong already.
dutchhaze1 7 months ago
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INexasI 7 months ago
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INexasI 7 months ago
hey douchebag, armbars are twice as easy when some fool tries to strike a good bll guy
jonnybeefcake1 8 months ago
I thought maybe they were going to play football. The other guy would have won.
DanLujan 8 months ago
this is kinda dumb
arkangel3374 8 months ago
evidently the nfl player doesnt know any subs ... so pretty much he would be defending until he is caught in something... I see a guy with defense and offense vs a guy who doesnt know wtf he is doing but holding another guy off
quickcash 8 months ago
OK im sure the the smaller dude has been sparring alot with big opponents who know how to roll. So this is just having fun, cos they both and everybody else knows whos better.
MrLolz777 8 months ago
if i had a dollar for every pixel used, i would have 1 dollar
canibuswp 8 months ago
I've been training in Jiu-Jitsu for about 4 months now and its quite effictive. I can however see the main weakness in it is that in a street fight there's a realtivly high chance you will have multiple attackers and so far what I have learned has only taught me how to focus on one attacker. I know the basics of how to take down and submit a single attacker but I admit at this point in my training I'm realtivly clueless as to how I would handle multiple attackers.
MercuryMorrison1 8 months ago
@MercuryMorrison1 its called run-jitsu lol... if u get into a fight against multiple attackers and thats not the first thought u have... u deserve to get pounded on
andyjay203 8 months ago
grappling is awesome , i'm trained in kick boxing and when i was taken down i was thinking WTF, what should i do know...after getting my ass kick ,i also learned jujitsu bhwahahah
jivs159 8 months ago
bullet to face = automatic win
Livetolift14 9 months ago
3 dollar can of pepper spray > all forms of fighting
jms8220 9 months ago 12
@jms8220 retards like you would probably end up spraying themselves in the eye.
HCNguyen86 5 months ago 21
@HCNguyen86 either that or it wouldnt work since about half the time all it will do is piss them off even more. gun and knife>any fighting style
whatsflawless 4 months ago
@whatsflawless You don't understand the whole point of martial arts. the first thing they teach you is to retreat and call for help. Every form of fighting always teach this rule.
Even during robberies, the robber will hold the gun near gun near reaching range. That is where forms like krav maga will out play an inexperience gun user.
also most street fight will happen in less than 30 seconds. The majority of them don't involve weapons of any kind.
Think before you say martial art is useless
HCNguyen86 4 months ago
@HCNguyen86 i do martial arts. i understand. i also understand that if you think all martial art schools teach that then you are living in a dream world. Yes and what if they just shoot you 10 feet away? you wont know when it is going to happen. i never said martial art is useless, dont put words in my mouth. if you have a gun on you and your concealed to carry. you are deadly.I dont care how much martial arts you know. And i wanna be an Aikido teachr and a Judo teacher. haha.
whatsflawless 4 months ago
@whatsflawless 10 feet? Is this a war zone? Unless someone has a grudge against you and want you dead, there isn't much you can do martial arts wise or anything else for that matter. An amateur gun man can easily be disarmed by a skilled krav maga practitioner at close range. No one is going to aim a gun at you 10 feet away and ask for money... Martial art is useful in the real world and as a philosophy.
9 out of 10 daily confrontations will not involve any guns.
HCNguyen86 4 months ago
@HCNguyen86 no i just said a number. go ahead and base things on statistics.
whatsflawless 4 months ago
Untrained? Look carefully, he has base and an idea of take down defense. Definitely has wrestling with him as well.
Lejendary2 9 months ago 2
UFC vs NFL Dana make it happen hahahaha
joshlovsbball 9 months ago
Blow job jiu jitsu
munsterr777 9 months ago
Want to see BJJ v pizza boy
ih8doofdoof 9 months ago
@ih8doofdoof I wanna see BJJ v 2 pizza boys. bjj guy will get pwned.
mrkiky 9 months ago
How about you put the jew jitsu fighter (intentional) in some shoulder pads and a helmet. Do some line drills
bananahands93 9 months ago
hey, upload more BJJ vs videos! im subscribing, looking forward to watching more vids!
golpesar29 9 months ago
hahaha i remember when my big football friend thought my traditional Japanese Judo/Jiu jitsu wouldnt work against him tackling me on the ground....lmao wow, i fight on the ground and thats where he brought it...i must say he felt embarrassed when he woke up after a choke
mrjaret67 9 months ago
I don't.. I mean he's untrained so.. what was the point of this video?
MelonNun 9 months ago
@MelonNun The point? It's that a small, relatively weak man can overcome genetic limitations to overpower a larger, much stronger man **with training**.
Can someone not see this? : /
ijust1 9 months ago 61
@ijust1 how bout we let the football player punch him in the face or gouge his eyes out he may be beating him at jujitsu but not in an actual fight
mruck05 9 months ago
@mruck05 Watch Royce Gracie in early UFC -- where hair pulling, groin strikes, and yes even face punches were allowed -- and you'll see how correct my statement was.
ijust1 9 months ago 56
@ijust1 It's still a controlled fight though. People do crazy ish in fights now, don't expect it to be fair.
In most fights there is usually more than one attacker, which BJJ is not designed for.
Kfurgus 9 months ago
@ijust1 Oh yeah, those early UFCs where the Gracies hand selected opponents simply to "sell BJJ".
Regarding groin strikes, no most did not throw any type of groin strikes.
Regarding eye gouges, no that was not allowed at all.
Regarding hair pulling? Well, it certainly helped boxer Warring beat the shit out of pretty boy grappler Paulson.
jorgekluney 9 months ago
@ijust1 Royce Gracie was easily one of the best BJJ practitioners in the world, however if you watch modern fighters, jiu jistu alone is usually not enough. No fighter would make it in any mma promotion now a days with just BJJ, to be a true fighter you have to use aspects from all the different martial arts
emeperorscorpion 6 months ago
@ijust1 he also went to japan and got his ass beat LOL
desenutz18 6 months ago
@ijust1 groin strikes were never legal in UFC. In fact it was one of the few rules in the early UFC.
TenteixSaigo 6 months ago
@TenteixSaigo wrong
tad284 6 months ago
@tad284 No. The rules of UFC 1 were no groin strikes, no eyes gouging, and no fish hooks. It was never legal, dipshit. If it was, why didn't anyone use it when they were losing?
TenteixSaigo 6 months ago
@TenteixSaigo Groin strikes were not banned until UFC 15. Watch "Keith Hackney vs Joe Son" at UFC 4. Hackney lands hard, repeated, intentional punches directly to Joe Son's crotch near the end of the match.
Ironic. I would think twice before calling someone more knowledgeable than you a "dipshit".
Apologize to him.
ijust1 6 months ago
@ijust1 Again, they were illegal. Shots to the PELVIS were not. Had he hit him in the balls he would have been disqualified. I will not apollogize, dipshit.
TenteixSaigo 6 months ago
@TenteixSaigo Hackney punched Joe son directly in the groin. over and over. I remember it well, he didn't get DQ'd.
IpponDropkick 6 months ago
@IpponDropkick those were shots above the groin. I saw that fight. Close to but not in the groin is just fine.
TenteixSaigo 6 months ago
@TenteixSaigo Uh, some of them were. Some of them weren't. watch?v=57Mva-3n7TY
He was CLEARLY throwing groin shots. Some of them just missed. No one gets in that position and thinks "A devastating shot to the pelvis will save me!"
IpponDropkick 6 months ago
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ThePinkMan 5 months ago
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@TenteixSaigo Groin shots were illegal in UFC 1 but were made legal in UFC 2, and were kept legal for several subsequent events. There was no protocol for disqualifying fighters, anyway, so they could pretty much get away with anything.
As for Hackney's punches being "above the groin," I say that you should get your head out of your ass.
ThePinkMan 5 months ago
@mruck05 ha owned
MrSupasexi 9 months ago
@mruck05 lets see you try grappling a guy bigger than u
Mxkid1999 8 months ago
@mruck05 being big dosn't mean you can punch or fight you idiot.
sk8forlife90 8 months ago
@mruck05 If the NFL player could strike then so could the BJJ guy right? So when he took his back and flattened him out he could have just punched him until he was out. Same result.
tuopvm 7 months ago
@tuopvm No not the same result, the second and third time they rolled the NFL player had him on his back first, but since he is untrained he had no idea what to do with him. If he could have stuck him I'm sure it would have been over soon after. I don't care how well trained you are big fist coming down on your head will make you think twice about your life choices.
greenidmonster1 7 months ago
@greenidmonster1 You clearly don't watch mma much or do bjj do you? If you did you would realize how ignorant your comments are. Watch The first 2 rolls were over in less than a minute and the NFL player was to off base to land an effective strike anyway. He also controlled his wrist. And yes he would still be at a disadvantage if there were strikes. It would have been striking and bjj against just striking. The bjj guy would still be up two weapons to the NFL guys one.
tuopvm 7 months ago
@mruck05 any half decent self defense gym will teach defence against eye gouging biteing groin strikes and all that jazz and BJJ is a self defence art my gym takes that very seriously
DangerasTM 7 months ago
@mruck05 well look at it this way if he can punch and gouge so can the BJJ guy so by that right if the bjj guy is beating him without using those strikes then logic dictates that giving the bjj more tools to use will increase his chances. For more proof look at the forst 3 UFC when there were no rules other than bitting and eye gouging
SandToof 7 months ago
@mruck05 but the other guy could do that too
bjj is dangerous but i must say i fucking hate them,so borring and they fall to the ground on purpose like some pusy
TheSUBGAMER 6 months ago
@mruck05 Dumbest comment I've ever seen in my life. You want an "actual fight", but you want to ALLOW the guy to be punched? Are you fucking retarded?
Audiofalcon7 5 months ago
@mruck05 it's shitty quality, but it proves the point.
watch?v=ho2MUZBtAwM&NR=1
stephenrobertrae 5 months ago
@ijust1 No seriously.... what's the point.
One guy is trained the other isn't.
it's stupid.
Only grapplers do this shit... you never see videos pop up on youtube of some boxer doing this to an untrained fighter. It's really sad actually. Grapplers try so desperately to find acceptance.
jorgekluney 9 months ago
@ijust1 He didn't look weak at all
HatredPrime 9 months ago
@ijust1 I Can't, this was recorded with a blender lol
OlaEnfants 8 months ago