Wayne Kramer - "Back to Detroit"

[leocbgb]

Genio!



[nikkilittle86]

@critic480 Ever hear the saying if you dont have any thing nice to say, "Dont say anything?" YOUR arrogance is what everyone hears here. Loser, He difinitely is not. And he IS welcome here!! Who are YOU anyway?? Sounds like you need to Shut up and go elsewhere!!Our city does NOT need people like you! Such a negative person needs therapy for sure!! Man , oh man..............

[reaperpro]

@critic480 and while your at it, why don't MAN THE FUCK UP and unhide your channel and step out into the open where honest and forthright people can see your sorry ass? What you hiding from?

[reaperpro]

@critic480 FUCK YOU MAN. The MC5 belonged to the 5 guys that were in the MC5. Their legacy is a gift to the people. BUT IT WILL NEVER, EVER BELONG TO JOHN SINCLAIR OR TRANS-RIPOFF INDUSTRIES. Did I get your organization's name right? Yeah, you know I did. Your documentary was a was a poorly assembled piece of garbage. So the MC5 belonged to you assholes? Cool, let's hear your new album. I bet it's got KILLER VOCALS. Waiting........

[beweinstein]

Brother Wayne Kramer is still deep in the struggle, and hes pulling many of along with him. I was privlidged to hear him again at the AFL-CIO building in DC.

So moved by his performance I was moved to take my vacation in Detroit two weeks ago.

In solidarity, with love and respect,..a proud union brother,

Barry

[supercoupe1992]

Wayne fuckin kramer!! Grew up to my dad jamming mc5 and iggy and the stooges,two of the greatest groups to ever exist.this is a great song! Thanks dad!! Aka the one and only Rev Pee whack

[Eszpresszo]

This is really sad. People who are fans of the MC5 are tossing shit at each other? And I guess in their heydey, when they wanted to change the world for the better, however silly that might have been, do you suppose for one second that they wanted their music to be a catalyst for a hatefest, 40 years down the road. This is shameful. You guys should really be ashamed of yourselves.

[FyreTiger2K]

#92 greatest guitarist of all time

[nasticanasta]

Love this tune.. .Wayne is awsome...my band plays this tune, along with Wild America (another Wayne tune)

[snorfalof]

whys wayne kramer playing so slow -.-

[proshea01]

great video and song, yeah its sad, it is what it is, hopefully it can turn itself around, I'm doing all I can to try and make that happen, I'm still here and I must try and do my part, and with the investors I have coming in, there's a chance, time will tell, i would love to get a copy of this tune,

[Jeremandre]

@proshea01 im with you on that one

[sleepwalker3125]

Great video. And all those Wayne Kramer records on Epitaph are fantastic!

[TR5T]

I can't go back without awful heaviness sadness and the odd sparckle of laughter.

Alvins, the Hideout, the Grande, Brother Wayne.

I stay way now ....too much sunshine elsewhere. Music is in my head. The river in my blood.

How good it was, how much fun.

[askat33]

just a great song and so dark and sad .. wayne takes a mirror and show us what happend with the big D just for greed .....

D is coming to the whole world .... and nobody realize......

[randywoolf]

i grew up at 8 and outer drive, in the 60s. this song means a lot to me. and wayne K is the man, giving back to the world with road recovery.

[sixaxle]

Very nice work there Wayne! and ain't it all the truth bro..... god bless ya man... Lee

[SonyVor]

This song gets better with age. Thanks, Wayne Kramer.

[moneen02]

Fantastic song,,, very dark, Wayne continues to release great music after all these years.

It's kind of interesting to think that an agricultural revolution in the inner city may save Detroit.

[detroitkeith]

i grew up on the 5 saw them a ton of times they were a great band until the smack took over i saw wanye about 3 years ago at a na convention in mich. he played but he didnt rock like the old days he talked about recovery which is cool but we wanted kick out the jams

[nasticanasta]

@detroitkeith I saw himwith his band in COlumbus and saw the MC5/DTK tour... he ruled!!

[microdot]

I read some of the comments on this thread and I think how fucking parochial...this guy is a part of your cultural history who over came some pretty big personal; and legal realities and still continues to be a primeval force and is real American original...

he is the fusion of free jazz and modern indie rock.

Detroit, you have a real cultural gem, don't play games, we all have personal agendas, but Wayne has never been anything but himself.

I speak as a true witness. Respect yourself.....

[Detroit1967]

Excellent moody video, Brother Wayne ; ) Can anyone now please Scott Morgan's "Detroit" namechecking all the Motor City's great musical artists, please?

[merc1110]

Awesome!!!

[robertwienerrocks]

Great video...

[Discfiend69]

As a former westside Detroiter this tune hits home...So sad to see what a shit-hole it is now...R.I.P.

[jimmiedudansky]

Wayne who give a fuck what some fuckin hippie wanta be sez,your fuckin WAYNE FUCKING KRAMER!I met you in 1979 outside Lilies,the bar was getting raided at the time and you just got outta jail.Its 2008 let them bastards go back in there holes(mommie&daddys basement)You deserve a little something keep rockin in free world I still think it's free,O well.

[bunzy11]

this song or album belongs on itunes or frostwire

[ChuckHippy]

Not a bad track. I think Dangerous Madness, (which this song is off,) is his best solo album.

[slimtimslide]

since he gave up drink n drugs he's had to distance himself from a lot of old friends who still indulge and some of them feel betrayed and say "fuck wayne", particularly when he comes to london and don't call anyone!!! i think it's a really great song but i can see both sides of the story. why shouldn't he make a few bucks anyway? the cats paid his dues and if he needs to stay straight well so be it... 'scuse me, i have to do some hooverin'

[TomGreenUK]

Great record, how is he greedy? He isn't commercially successful!

[jgray6868]

He "was" great until he turned into a big greedy pussy, and prohibited the release of one of the greatest documentaries about a rock band, MC5: A True testimonial DAYS before it's release date.. YOU SUCK, WAYNE !! You will NEVER be forgiven for that you DICK. Greed took over, and the Levi's corporation came along and offered the surviving members of The MC5 a ton of money to do their sad and horrible DKT/MC5 shows..

[Discfiend69]

Hey,don't stick needles in your veins and stick with mind expansion.Being a junkie only gets most people to the grave before their time is due.Wayne never sold out,he's a survivor in a world where people don't give a fuck unless a dollar is involved.

That's OUR great America...

[nasticanasta]

@bunzy11 Rob Tyner would be ashamed of his wife... get your facts striaght...Robs wife wanted $ she tried to block it...

[nasticanasta]

@jgray6868 He didn't block it... Rob Tyners wife did you fool! I went to the Detroit Music Awards for the showing of it...and I'm from Columbus Ohio!! Wayne was tyring to get it out there....Tyners wife was wanting $

[jgray6868]

@nasticanasta i think youre mistaken, Nasti.. But it matters not.. the point being is that SOMEBODY better get the damn movie out there, and distributed because its a great film. And should be seen. and if Robs wife was so in need of money she would have had Robin Jr go on the MC5/DKT tour..Because I heard she flat out refused to be any part of that, as did her son.

[nasticanasta]

@jgray6868 not mistaken at all I followed the whole thing from beginning to end.. and I've seen the Movie,Obviously you wern't at the Detroit Music awards about 5 years ago when they showed it. Tyners wife was pulling this shit before the movie was even finshed even before the MC5/DTK tour.. and they would never have put her son on the tour...because she had already showed where she stood before that tour and movie. Obviously since you wer'nt there to see it you dont have the full facts.

[jgray6868]

@nasticanasta Wow..well I guess we all cant be as well informed and as super cool as you nasti.. (bows down on knees) all HAIL NASTICANASTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The SUPREME KNOWLEDGE-HOLDER OF ALL THINGS MC5-RELATED!!!! Man, thanks for enlightening me, Nasti...You've really turned me around here.. YOU ROCK, dude!!!! Man, I want to be just like you someday..  Have a good one, dude.

[nasticanasta]

@jgray6868 lol wow so much for people wanting thr truth...don't get all pissed at me because youdidn't do your homework or weren't even smart enough to go to Detroit for the showing.. truth is, that movie has been showed many times here in the good ol' USA....but you're so bent on hate you can't see the truth at all...whatta pussy.

[nasticanasta]

@jgray6868 here from the message board concerning this movie....

We have received repeated inquiries for an update on the witch hunt against Wayne. Laurel Legler, David Thomas and Becky Derminer's (Tyner) disastrously executed attempt to take Wayne's rights to his own songs and force him into a film deal was a horrible failure and a global PR nightmare for Future/Now Films. The case was closed while DKT/MC5 were crisscrossing the globe.

[nasticanasta]

@jgray6868 it's almost as if you WANT it to be all Wayne's fault.. you need help with your hatred issues....

[jgray6868]

@nasticanasta My understanding was that Michael and Dennis thought the film portrayed them in a very negative light,(which it did, but fuck man, thats the beauty of documentary) and since Levi's had offered them a shitload of money to do a reunion tour Wayne pulled the plug on MC5/ATT. 

[nasticanasta]

@jgray6868 I got to talk to all of them during the MC5/DTK tour In Clevelands Beachland...and were all wanting to get it out and were very upset with Tyners wife....same thing when I saw Waynes solo tour in support of LLMF in Columbus Ohio's Stache & little Brothers bar, all blamed Robs wife of which she was wanting more money than any of them. I've got all their autographs ..great bunch of guys, super nice!

[nasticanasta]

@jgray6868 all the emails and newsletters I got from Wayne showed their frustration with Tyners wife about her standing in the way of the movie.

[nasticanasta]

@jgray6868 you didn't see the movie, how would you know... I did.

[jgray6868]

@nasticanasta Nasti i own a copy of it myself, I have seen it SEVERAL times, and saw it here when it premiered at the Chicago Underground Film Festival in 2002. Its not that I want it to be his fault at all..I just want him to get it out there Whats to not understand about this? To Hell with Tyner's wife, she doesn't seem to own any of the licensing for the music, and Kramer does.. So HE has the power. And He should get it out there.

[nasticanasta]

@jgray6868 not true....she owns the rights to her husbands music and entitlements... Wayne and the rest had to deal with her... wow do not go into law, and you are clearly a product of public schooling..you totaly ignore the feed from the messege board concerning this issue...aparently you only want to see what you want to see...and if you hav e acopy and I have a copy and obviously more do, seems to me it's out there. Again...she owns the rights to robs music and she does have the power.

[nasticanasta]

@jgray6868 all it takes is for one person to say,"no" and that's what Robs wife did. once more here is the feed;

We have received repeated inquiries for an update on the witch hunt against Wayne. Laurel Legler, David Thomas and Becky Derminer's (Tyner) disastrously executed attempt to take Wayne's rights to his own songs and force him into a film deal was a horrible failure and a global PR nightmare for Future/Now Films. The case was closed while DKT/MC5 were crisscrossing the globe.

[jgray6868]

@nasticanasta ok Nasti.. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I was wrong. You are right. happy now? And yeah, you and I have both seen it.. My copy is a bootleg, and clearly its NOT getting out there like it should. It tells a great story and Waynes narration is a big part of that. So thats that. Rock on,

[jgray6868]

@nasticanasta SOunds like youre the pussy here, Nasti...a Nasti one at that! lmao.. Why are we arguing about this? And Why is it you feel the need to be such an agressive dickwad about this? You really must be a lonely bored person that you feel the need to dredge up all this hatred toward me? Sorry youre like this, brother..

[nasticanasta]

@jgray6868 I think it funny that you cry that it should be out there and you have a copy of it... and last time I looked... MC5 is Detroit baby.. not pussy Chi-town....stay there. it showed first in Detroit at that music awards show I was at.... Chicago was later. shall I list all the places this film showed at when it came out??? lol.. and follow the thread you clearly started this crying..not I.. it's all blame and point fingers with you isn't it?

[nasticanasta]

@jgray6868 lol "dickwad"...and by each reply you obviously show aggression, ya looks like I'm dealing with the uneducated... so I am clearly not your brother...and it is I who must exclaim,"sorry you are an angry little boy"

[jgray6868]

@nasticanasta (yawns) whatever Nasti.. Yeah, Chitown is so pussy that it had to take some Chicagoans to make the flick instead of some hard-core Detroiters, whats wrong with that picture? WHo's the angry one here..?? You keep posting this vitriolic shit, not me.. You win. Now shut the fuck up.  We can't all be as perfect and smart as you, nasticanasta...

[nasticanasta]

@jgray6868 lets look and put this all into perspective and see who has the anger problem. well it would be you and your very first initial comment here.. calling Wayne a "DICK" in bold letters and not to mention all the rest of your rant on that first comment.. so ya, you are the one who has the hate and the angre.. and without me egging you on for that matter..2 YEARS AGO!... think before you speak, you either obviously forgot your rant or chose to ignore this huge "Faux pas"

[carrington1955]

Saw Kramer in the US at Maxs with Gang War in 1980...glad he's still kicking out the pension books. Go Wayne, it's still cool as fuck.

[pandak1n]

Thanx for posting. Had this years ago on an old Epitaph VHS giveaway. Somehow reminds me of a cooler Bruce Springsteen.

[nasticanasta]

@pandak1n ewww bruce sucks..he in no way remotely even comes close to Wayne.

[doorsfan53]

i love his work with the MC5