As a subject of The Peoples State of Great Britain, I can't even imagine life without lenghy que's for treatment, the rationing of overpriced life saving prescription drugs, lacklustre General practicioners, and dirty hospitals. You guys have my sincere sympathies....ps the NHS, thru a body called NICE decides who will live or die by refusing to buy new drugs for extremly sick patients.Preventative care suck's as well.
I saw those same lines and waits in Germany when I was stationed there many years ago, and I sure don't want govt run health care here in America. I was a CNA for a little over 10 years - the worst nursing homes and the ones I usually refused to work in because of the horrible conditions were the state & county run ones. So, why the heck to does anybody think they can run our entire health care system.
I found a lot of the statements in this interview highly questionable, but Mary lost all credibility with me when she basically repeated the "Death Panel" rumour, and Stef lost a great deal when he didn't call her on it.
I've seen some topics on this channel heavily slanted and presented in an overly dramatic fashion, but this was an outright falsehood...and I have a hard time believing Stef didn't know that.
And, did you two really try to use possible placebo effect as an argument!? Really!?
Thanks for the feedback, I would be happy if you could send me more information about the death penalty rumor, and I will try to clarify it on my Sunday show, I don't really know much about it...
Done. I didn't send much but what I did send makes for an entertaining starting point. I'm sure you'd prefer to use sources you trust to fill in the blanks over what I would provide. And, again I apologize for the harshness.
@Sarren187 You are sadly mistaken if you do not believe in death panels. Already happened in other countries (do your research) & it most certainly WILL happen here. I imagine there are many topics that you need to learn about. A few: dangers of vaccines, polio contamination w/monkey viruses (Read Dr. Mary's Monkey, Preston Bush & Zyclon B gas used to kill Jews, Aspertame & Karl Rove, Michael Taylor formerly Monsanto atty, Food Modernization & Safety (NOT), flouride, GMO, chemtrails. Good luck
I predict, that in the future, the young people of today, who will be the elderly of tomorrow, will be encouraged to bite down on state issued cyanide capsules, in order to reduce the pool of health-care recipients!
STEF - how can you make this video after denouncing the possibility of vitamin B17 as the cure for cancer?
I remember you reading over my argument - which went almost exactly like your video above goes - and then you simply said "you cannot reason someone out of a belief that wasn't reasoned into."
How can you dismiss my argument that the medical monopoly was making money from chemo and drugs, and using the state to make B17 illegal?
Not to cut in, but ending your post with "What is wrong with you?" probably won't get you a response since you've just demonstrated that you have an inability to debate only the points. It's a shame, because you may have had a good objection.
wtf, such a nitty thing to post. Stef can easily ignore the personal remark and answer his actual objection. but I suspect stef will not comment on it because stef is NEVER EVER WRONG
Stef is smart and most of his videos are real good, but unfortunately his ego is too big to simply be the bigger man and explain things to people. So he will ignore what you've asked.
If you make money by saving lives and you don't save any lives then you're not gonna make much money!
And of all the ways ppl can make money, why would you pick healthcare? B/c you care about saving lives, of course!
If they don't make money, they go out of business and don't save any lives. If they don't save lives, they don't make money. You can't have one w/o the other.
im not trying to downplay what your doing here but these videos are amazing to listen to while im playing WoW education and gaming is the best way to learn
Thank you for this very pleasant to listen to interview. Mind opening handles to criticize Health care, also valid for the Dutch system that also has the hoops for us to avoid see what really is going on.
The elite do not want us to have inexpensive cures. They want us loaded up on an expensive drug in which only covers up the symptoms from a dis-ease. Heads up for the U.N.'s Codex.
The freedom to sustain our OWN health is dwindling.... : (
sure, but that's not really a great alternative. Why should you be ok with being prohibited by government violence from engaging in voluntary transactions with people to grow your food, whether it be organic or otherwise? Why should we be ok with government-granted monopolies for a period of time over specific patterns of use, called patents?
People voluntarily moved away from self-subsistence farming because they saw they could gain more wealth by being part of the division of labor.
They can put "Smart Choice" on whatever they want. It's still up to the customer to decide. And by the way, it even says on the packaging that the "Smart Choice" program thing is owned by Pepsi or something like that, lol.
Of course, i'm not defending the FDA. I don't think we should even have the FDA.
yeah i read (ok, ok, i skimmed) an article recently about some farmer that had sued the US for something it did regarding some taxes or regulations on his land or something and i think it had to do either with being unconstitutional or something that wasn't really supposed to be legal. Well basically, at the end of the thing, they just threw his case out because apparently the United States government has to consent to being sued before it can actually proceed to a court, lol. That's messed up.
Yup, the U.S. must consent to being sued by a U.S. citizen. If you are of the posterity of the people who founded this country you can sue as you are a party to the contract (incorporation document) called the Constitution.
The Constitution creates two political classes, those who make the rules (The People) and those who follow the rules (The Citizens).
I have the same opinions about drugs and the fda as the safety of vehicles-i would set that the manufacturer simply has to state how safe/unsafe the drug/car is. As long as someone is informed of how unsafe a certain product is, who is to say they shouldnt have it?
Thats where the argument for FDA starts.. first put labels, then verify, then test - for that pick tests - and before you know we end up with the Big Pharma. There is no way, you can impose liberty, other than not resort to coercion of any form. Obviously you would not buy blank box pills, so labeling are part of advertising and better labelled pills will win market share. You don't need a state to decree that.
The LP completely screwed up by turning down the principled, consistently libertarian Dr. Ruwart in favor of Bob Barr in the '08 race. Maybe she'll run again in 2012? Well, I can hope at least.
agreed. And even though Wayne Root is a little more of a right-winger, i still liked him better than Bob Barr. He seemed to actually support the message more vigorously and enthusiastically. I think Ruwart/Root would be a good team, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens with the LP in 2012
@stefbot Can you please get us a source on the electrocutions per state vs state regulations study as mentioned by Dr. Ruwart.
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lussiyarotr 1 year ago
What is seen and unseen...
WAMill3R 1 year ago
what healhcare specialists think about meditation and therapy music?
jlevine99 2 years ago
Kill the 3000 pg Illegal HC TAX & JAIL TrojanHorse Mandate Bill nobody wants..
Kill the bill..
Vote em out..
nobody wants it..
hadenufnow 2 years ago
I pluck in the mirror while I listen. :)
iheartdd4eva 2 years ago
Excellent Stefbot
lindabebe835 2 years ago
As a subject of The Peoples State of Great Britain, I can't even imagine life without lenghy que's for treatment, the rationing of overpriced life saving prescription drugs, lacklustre General practicioners, and dirty hospitals. You guys have my sincere sympathies....ps the NHS, thru a body called NICE decides who will live or die by refusing to buy new drugs for extremly sick patients.Preventative care suck's as well.
DecassyJake 2 years ago 3
I saw those same lines and waits in Germany when I was stationed there many years ago, and I sure don't want govt run health care here in America. I was a CNA for a little over 10 years - the worst nursing homes and the ones I usually refused to work in because of the horrible conditions were the state & county run ones. So, why the heck to does anybody think they can run our entire health care system.
Ralyns 2 years ago
@DecassyJake so Michael Moore was completely full of shit? I NEVER would have guessed that.
nurbSoldier 1 year ago
I found a lot of the statements in this interview highly questionable, but Mary lost all credibility with me when she basically repeated the "Death Panel" rumour, and Stef lost a great deal when he didn't call her on it.
I've seen some topics on this channel heavily slanted and presented in an overly dramatic fashion, but this was an outright falsehood...and I have a hard time believing Stef didn't know that.
And, did you two really try to use possible placebo effect as an argument!? Really!?
Sarren187 2 years ago
Thanks for the feedback, I would be happy if you could send me more information about the death penalty rumor, and I will try to clarify it on my Sunday show, I don't really know much about it...
stefbot 2 years ago
Done. I didn't send much but what I did send makes for an entertaining starting point. I'm sure you'd prefer to use sources you trust to fill in the blanks over what I would provide. And, again I apologize for the harshness.
Sarren187 2 years ago
@stefbot funny how he did not respond to that
nurbSoldier 1 year ago
read the WSJ article on the rationing commission
a death panel by another name...
anyway - the entire bill is a death panel - the vast economic misallocation does affect people, and will limit their lives.
libertyplayground 2 years ago
@Sarren187 You are sadly mistaken if you do not believe in death panels. Already happened in other countries (do your research) & it most certainly WILL happen here. I imagine there are many topics that you need to learn about. A few: dangers of vaccines, polio contamination w/monkey viruses (Read Dr. Mary's Monkey, Preston Bush & Zyclon B gas used to kill Jews, Aspertame & Karl Rove, Michael Taylor formerly Monsanto atty, Food Modernization & Safety (NOT), flouride, GMO, chemtrails. Good luck
BlueHappyBlueHappy 1 year ago
Criswell Predicts!
I predict, that in the future, the young people of today, who will be the elderly of tomorrow, will be encouraged to bite down on state issued cyanide capsules, in order to reduce the pool of health-care recipients!
Do not deny it, because, Criswell predicts!
Jcolinsol 2 years ago
STEF - how can you make this video after denouncing the possibility of vitamin B17 as the cure for cancer?
I remember you reading over my argument - which went almost exactly like your video above goes - and then you simply said "you cannot reason someone out of a belief that wasn't reasoned into."
How can you dismiss my argument that the medical monopoly was making money from chemo and drugs, and using the state to make B17 illegal?
What is wrong with you?
RLore18 2 years ago
Not to cut in, but ending your post with "What is wrong with you?" probably won't get you a response since you've just demonstrated that you have an inability to debate only the points. It's a shame, because you may have had a good objection.
dingerness 2 years ago
wtf, such a nitty thing to post. Stef can easily ignore the personal remark and answer his actual objection. but I suspect stef will not comment on it because stef is NEVER EVER WRONG
davyjames 2 years ago
Stef is smart and most of his videos are real good, but unfortunately his ego is too big to simply be the bigger man and explain things to people. So he will ignore what you've asked.
davyjames 2 years ago
Reverse psychology probably won't help either.
dingerness 2 years ago
Mary J. Ruwart = win. X3 :D
Surhotchaperchlorome 2 years ago
If you make money by saving lives and you don't save any lives then you're not gonna make much money!
And of all the ways ppl can make money, why would you pick healthcare? B/c you care about saving lives, of course!
If they don't make money, they go out of business and don't save any lives. If they don't save lives, they don't make money. You can't have one w/o the other.
natdavi 2 years ago 3
im not trying to downplay what your doing here but these videos are amazing to listen to while im playing WoW education and gaming is the best way to learn
ToLDrood 2 years ago 4
haha, excellent, so what you're saying is that the interviews have a kind of "wow factor" [rimshot]
stefbot 2 years ago
We'd tell you to keep your day-job, but...
Fetchdafish 2 years ago
lol
gosmokesome 2 years ago
I do the same thing with Quake :)
dvide 2 years ago 5
Thank you for this very pleasant to listen to interview. Mind opening handles to criticize Health care, also valid for the Dutch system that also has the hoops for us to avoid see what really is going on.
jacobvision 2 years ago
The elite do not want us to have inexpensive cures. They want us loaded up on an expensive drug in which only covers up the symptoms from a dis-ease. Heads up for the U.N.'s Codex.
The freedom to sustain our OWN health is dwindling.... : (
stangeriam 2 years ago 2
try growing the food you eat - then you are 75% the way there
jonnieprince 2 years ago
sure, but that's not really a great alternative. Why should you be ok with being prohibited by government violence from engaging in voluntary transactions with people to grow your food, whether it be organic or otherwise? Why should we be ok with government-granted monopolies for a period of time over specific patterns of use, called patents?
People voluntarily moved away from self-subsistence farming because they saw they could gain more wealth by being part of the division of labor.
stealthswimmer 2 years ago
The FDA is one of the worst culprits of the "Revolving Door."
This is how Fruit Loops received the FDA's "Smart Choices" green check indicating a healthy choice.
newgtguy 2 years ago
They can put "Smart Choice" on whatever they want. It's still up to the customer to decide. And by the way, it even says on the packaging that the "Smart Choice" program thing is owned by Pepsi or something like that, lol.
Of course, i'm not defending the FDA. I don't think we should even have the FDA.
:-)
stealthswimmer 2 years ago
I guarantee that the people suing the FDA were "Citizens."
Citizens have no standing in the Supreme Court. Citizens can only sue the government with the government's permission.
Citizen = Subject.
newgtguy 2 years ago
yeah i read (ok, ok, i skimmed) an article recently about some farmer that had sued the US for something it did regarding some taxes or regulations on his land or something and i think it had to do either with being unconstitutional or something that wasn't really supposed to be legal. Well basically, at the end of the thing, they just threw his case out because apparently the United States government has to consent to being sued before it can actually proceed to a court, lol. That's messed up.
stealthswimmer 2 years ago
Yup, the U.S. must consent to being sued by a U.S. citizen. If you are of the posterity of the people who founded this country you can sue as you are a party to the contract (incorporation document) called the Constitution.
The Constitution creates two political classes, those who make the rules (The People) and those who follow the rules (The Citizens).
newgtguy 2 years ago
I have the same opinions about drugs and the fda as the safety of vehicles-i would set that the manufacturer simply has to state how safe/unsafe the drug/car is. As long as someone is informed of how unsafe a certain product is, who is to say they shouldnt have it?
peteheatb3 2 years ago
Thats where the argument for FDA starts.. first put labels, then verify, then test - for that pick tests - and before you know we end up with the Big Pharma. There is no way, you can impose liberty, other than not resort to coercion of any form. Obviously you would not buy blank box pills, so labeling are part of advertising and better labelled pills will win market share. You don't need a state to decree that.
utubehayter 2 years ago 2
RUWART ROCKS
libertyplayground 2 years ago 8
The LP completely screwed up by turning down the principled, consistently libertarian Dr. Ruwart in favor of Bob Barr in the '08 race. Maybe she'll run again in 2012? Well, I can hope at least.
RationalDischarge 2 years ago 3
agreed. And even though Wayne Root is a little more of a right-winger, i still liked him better than Bob Barr. He seemed to actually support the message more vigorously and enthusiastically. I think Ruwart/Root would be a good team, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens with the LP in 2012
stealthswimmer 2 years ago
FIRST!
robinsoncrucify 2 years ago