More Tanto Dori...

[PCDental1]

There is more here than meets the eye, Aikido rocks!

[jimmymoltesanti]

lots of respect for training realisticly like that and posting it!

however you must agree that this shows the limits of using (only)aikido in a ''real'' situation when certain conditions are not in place.

by that I mean having several decades of experience, and the attack being suited to deal with using only aiki.

if aiki balance can not be achieved

(like here), and things become wrestly (ju)

why not strike (gó) aswell?

in daito ryu that was the context for aiki anyway.

no disrespect

[ChuShinTani]

No disrespect taken! Thanks for your thoughtful comments.

Striking is always an option, however it's not one we are working on in these videos. There is nothing wrong with striking, it's just not a focus of ours. In a "real" situation striking should always be done if it's available.

I believe that Daito Ryu has a different focus then Aikido, one that is more suitable to interactions such as this one. These drills represent an early attempt to add resistance training to Aikido. Thanks.

[jimmymoltesanti]

I understand, it was a specific exercise.

once again I think its admirable that you train aiki techniques in realistic context.

using aiki is allready really hard.

in my experience (mostly jiu jitsu and some aikijitsu) ,

alternating between striking allowed, not allowed, armed, not armed in exercises like yours, gave me really helpfull insights in the specific nature of techniques.

maybe even in aikido context exploring striking a bit could be a worth while investment in aiki insight?

[ChuShinTani]

The last two years we have worked quite a bit on striking. I have done a fair amount of striking in my other training as well. We do train striking, just not to a high degree. Much of that is due to the fact that I believe there are many more qualified to teach those specifics.

I believe that the Aikido syllabus works best when there is one armed person facing multiple unarmed and/or armed people.

It has taken quite a few years of research and experimentation to come to this conclusion.

[ChuShinTani]

We have a "game" that is currently showing much promise. I play to make a video of this "game" some time late this year. I believe that it provides the proper context for Aikido techniques, and allows for true resistance training within the Aikido syllabus.

Thanks for your comments.

-Christopher Hein

[jimmymoltesanti]

i've seen some of your other videos and i see that your training is very varied.

allready covering what i suggested.

it makes a lot of sense to me that the aikido syllabus would work best as you say.

once again great video's.

i might suggest some of your exersises in jiu jitsu class soon

osu

[nblinko]

This is really cool.  It's the most realistic looking video of Aikido I've ever seen.

[ChuShinTani]

Thanks.

[ChuShinTani]

When you are doing these disarms in seconds, is the other guy letting you?

Hard as it may be to believe, when someone has a weapon, and doesn't want to let you take it away, it's hard to do.

The getting stabbed 12 times is a reality, you are likely not going to get a weapon away from someone without taking some punishment for it.

Granted it's pretty to watch fancy fantasy techniques, done in cooperative situations, but that's not what this school is about.

[DOM3NUTS]

lol have you never heard of Kali, Escrima, or Arnis martial arts??? now that is disarming.you should look em up. What you guys are doing will only get you killed in real life and make you look very stupid. and i love how you call your garage a school

[ChuShinTani]

Awesome, thanks for the input.

[ShaolinPunks]

Horrible video, in my opinion. You're technique is not street effective because you grab onto the other man's shoulders and wrestle against him (waste of time/energy), and if you incorporate the very real threat of headbutts- entirely useless.

[ChuShinTani]

We are standing on a mat.

[johnnycache]

What's it like to be stupid? Do you know you're stupid and feel bitterness, or is it bliss?

[ChuShinTani]

Does it look like we're standing in the street to you? If so I'd love to know the answer to your question.

[CTDjevin]

funny thing about good drills; sometimes they aren't pretty. Your gi might get messed up. They do however give the practitioner a glimps of the reality of battle. Great drill guys.

[ChuShinTani]

Thanks.

[nimiimi]

Best Aikido video I've ever seen!!

No pretending, no silly fake falls.

[ChuShinTani]

yeah, but you're biased.

[shihonage]

Search Youtube for Senshido, namely Richard Dimitri and his knife drills.

[ChuShinTani]

Sounds like he talks about the same things I do.

[shihonage]

You must not have seen the video I wanted you to see. Sadly Youtube isnt letting me post links.

His point specifically is that you always must have your center directly under you when you enter(interestingly, aligned with classical Aikido). That's not what you're doing. You're doing the "Krav Maga" approach that he makes fun of - bending forward.

[ChuShinTani]

Are you watching the video above? The very first entry is made with my feet under my cener. so are all of the following entrys, the exception being when a hand is shoved in my chest, at which point my hips shift backward to rebalance myself. Now in the clinch things change I agree.

[Mikau713]

Damn! I wanted to be there next time we did randori (tanto dori now?) Damn damn damn damn damn... Seems like everyone's getting better. Good stuff.

[flintstonecom]

I'm sorry, I just don't see the point. Tori is stabbed so many times.

[ChuShinTani]

It's not easy to take a knife away from someone who dosen't want you to take it away. Point one.

If you notice, several times the unarmed guy gets to the knife without getting cut, he then disarmes and starts to attack himself. Point two.

[flintstonecom]

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[ChuShinTani]

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