The corvette didnt step up there game to compete until 1997, thats 6 years of japanese superiority. Even then the Corvette C5 hardly trumped the japanese.
You guys are arguing about two different classes of cars here. The japanese TT's were in competition with the corvette. So you guys talking about boosting the camaro and being better then the 3k is almost naive. Yes you can tune a camaro to be faster than a stock 3k but if someone puts the same money into the 3k that you did youll be back in the same position. All in all its preferance, but American car companies had to step up there game to compete with the Japanese.
if you got low compression, of course the turbo is gonna benefit from this... More fuel, and air can pushed to the chamber. LT1's have 10.4:1 turbo is gonna have very little effect on this engine. Pop in some low compression pistons and a turbo, easily the LT1 can make more than 400hp
@3000gtvr4forever Actually, that camaro came stock with around 345 pnd.s of torque. I like camaros but I've just recently discovered the 3000GT VR4s. Definitely want one.
I have and have had a 95 3000gt for a while now and as someone that has owned a good amount of shitty cars, I can tell you mitsubishi put some effort into this one. Not as fast as it's reputation might suggest but honestly it's a very nice car. Hasn't had a single problem since I bought it and it has 80k on it with everything stock. I feel like a lot of the people on here that hate on nice cars like the GT probably don't own a nice car themselves, if they have one at all. Have some respect.
@07Z06ss Just wondering, why have I seen you talking shit on the last 3 or 4 3kgt vids I've watched...? Go watch something else, like someone having sex with z06's.
Guys, i own a 3000gt and it need some bpu to be able to beat a stock camaro, that's all. I will still say tho that i'd take a 3s before any camaro, personnal preferences.
unbiased opinion here because it think both companies make garbage, but why do you think you see 10x the amount of camaros in the junk yard? Maybe because they made 100x as many of them over the mitsubishis. Mitsubishi in the 90s were absolute garbage. Cool when they worked, but beyond that GARBAGE.
It's funny that some people say it wouldn't be a contest if you put a turbo on the camaro but a high compression engine doesn't have the same potential as a motor built to boost like the VR-4. You would have to build a 5.7 specifically built for boost to get that potential. And I still say the Vr-4 has more potential.
@kwedog2373 you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. High compression, plus boost, plus fuel, and a good tune=low compression/boosted rape ALLL DAY
Both cars are fast as fxck though and are fun to launch in. Camaro lost to a vr4 but hey it was a great race on both drivers. Be glad it didnt loose to a Mustang haha.
Why do people complain because one car is turbo and the other is not? Swap the twin turbos out of the vr4 put a single turbo on both cars and the vr4 will still win. If anything the vr4 will maybe launch even harder if it was just single turbo
too bad the vr4 is in a higher class then a camaro, the twin turbo v6 is more on the higher end of v8 cars, like zo6 and shit like that...my friend is an owner of a vr4 he has more mods then i do and i have a 89 mazda mx6 n he cant pull on me from 20-70
your just not looking at the right junk yards and i do see alot of camaros but i see more mustangs than any other car in there but i did find a 3000 gt in there the only problem with it was it had been wrapped aroung a light pole..
@gijoemomma02 twin turbo z28 baby i will put anything on my maro......and the vr4 will fall apart and it will be put in the junk yard, having said that yes the vr4's are fast but american muscle all the way, and i would love for a vr4 to completely destroy a mustang
its funny ppl are arguing over the ls1 blah blah well in this vid it is an lt1 and this block will hold boost and any other power adder twice as well as the ls1... the lt1 is a iron block, ls1 is aluminum easy to see why the ls1 guys switch to the LQ4 iron blocks when they want to run boost. anyway both these cars are so close in power and track times stock to stock. both are nice but the vr4s cost alot more then a z28 then and now. mod for mod the z28 is cheaper,faster,more reliable hands down
@JPARKERZ28 I had a 93 VR4, and I've now got a 96 Corvette. I am an American, a certified aircraft mechanic, have worked for the power company on all their vehicles, as well as constuction equipment. I can tell you with a great deal of confidence, the Corvette is not even close, nor a Camaro for that matter, to the level of engineering that a Mitsu VR4 is. The VR4 is a far superior automobile, in every aspect. Plus, mega power, cheap.
@bill4488 So? Being a Mechanic doesn't make you an engineer. The VR4 isn't any more complicated than any other car, its a Galant with 4wd and a Turbo.
@orbitofdoom16 It was a 3000gt VR4. And, actually, a certified aircraft mechanic does engineer repairs on a regular basis. I stand by my statement that the 3000GT VR4 was a far superior car when compared with the same year Camaro or Corvette. I suppose you are an engineer? I've got a 73 Charger and a 73 Datsun project right now underway. I love old American muscle. But, my Corvette feels like its going to come apart over 100mph, while the VR4 felt rock solid at 150. Personal experience.
@orbitofdoom16 Just thought I'd ad an afterthought. A naturally aspirated 1996 6g72 (the engine in a base SL model 3000gt) makes 74 horsepower per litre. The same year Corvette or Camaro with the LT1 (just like the 96 model I have) makes 53 horsepower per litre. Care to give a dissertation on horsepower per liter and why the naturally aspirated LT1 makes roughly two thirds the power of a naturally aspirated 6g72?
@bill4488 It doesn't really matter. GM certainly had the technology to make a naturally aspirated LS2 make more than 600 horsepower. The insurance would be stupid expensive, and the socialist government we have today would tax the hell out of it, but yes, they could have done it easy. The 6G72 is no more advanced than the Ford or Chevrolet V6s of similar displacement, and as for your other comment, yes, I have a dual major as an Engineer and Physics, and I'm also a certified automobile mechanic
@orbitofdoom16 Okay. We are just going to have to agree to disagree. I've had both automobiles. The Corvette and the VR4. The VR4 is a much higher quality auto all the way around. They've had some issues like many cars, but overall a better vehicle. Here are a few examples of some of the engineering flaws on the vette. Radiatior, intake gasket set, distributor, hood latch cable, window motor, both seat transmissions, rusted fuel line, fuel pump, transmission rebuild, left rear hub and more.
@bill4488 I find your comment amazing. My friend bought a 91 stealth TT over a year ago....for 3,000 dollars. He's drove it like a race car since day one. Still runs like it did the day he bought it. You need another stealth. Awesome car to begin with. TT...awd...beautiful combo. It sticks to the road too with the tires he has
@250honda I sure can relate to that! I had a 91 Steath RT and I drove the hell out of it I mean it was pedel to the metel all the time and it never tore up on me! It was nearly indestructable! Way ahead of its class!
@orbitofdoom16 Okay. We are just going to have to agree to disagree. I've had both automobiles. The Corvette and the VR4. The VR4 is a much higher quality auto all the way around. They've had some issues like many cars, but overall a better vehicle. Here are a few examples of some of the engineering flaws on the vette. Radiatior, intake gasket set, distributor, hood latch cable, window motor, both seat transmissions, rusted fuel line, fuel pump, transmission rebuild, left rear hub and more.
@bill4488 And Have been so since my senior year in high school with our explorer program. The N/A LT1 in your Camaro makes around 290(51 Horsepower per liter), it you want to go to the highest output its 330(58 Horsepower per liter), the same generation N/A 6G72 makes around 150(50 Horsepower per liter). The same 5.7s can be easily tuned to make 500 horsepower in one afternoon.
@orbitofdoom16 And, the 6g72 used in the 3kgt or stealth was overhead cam 24valve making 222 hp. not 150. This is my personal experience. The Mitsu was trouble free and my Corvette is an absolute piece of garbage. As far as an afternoon tune, unless you bolt on a turbo or supercharger to the Corvette, you can get more power out of a 6g72 twin turbo with a days worth of tuning. My granddad told me once, American cars are made to sell, not to last.
That's why the Camaro lasted 4 generations and now a 5th? Where is the VR4/Stealth? Why did they stop production after only 11 years? My '94 LT1 stomped on imports with full exhaust tune and my '99 Camaro SS is even quicker with less mods.
The VR4/Stealth have ZERO engine bay space to work on, aftermarket parts are more expensive, they're heavier than Camaro/Trans Ams and get worse economy. Plus stock for stock the LS1 is FASTER.
@thetravdawg dodge replaced the Stealth wit the Viper dickhead, Camaro is a piece of shyt car , my Stealth beat a 2011 Camaro &beat a 2001 Camaro wit mods, Camaros arent fast theyre shyt, lmao &if u wanna talk about muscle ill get my boys Challenger Srt8 ­t on your Camaro piece of trash car(:
Dodge replaced the Stealth with the Viper?? Haha what a tool. The went on sale for 1991 in the US as did the Stealth but the Stealth lasted until 1996 whereas the Viper is still going. The Stealth was an import, basically the same as the 3000GT idiot.
Your Stealth beat a Forester, wow. That's the only victory you have any proof of. News flash retard, the 2010 Camaro is way faster than the Challenger SRT8. Your Stealth isn't even a twin turbo, it's not beating a dang thing.
@thetravdawg &ihad 5 ppl in the car, in rush hour traffic jackass, &no the fuck its not , im not talkin about a Camaro SS fucker, you domt know shyt, iwork on cars all day , but iight, iwill show you videos everything, since your so fuckin retarted , lmao &my stealth has way over 300hp , but iight let me go buy a camera &record everytime irace,
What exactly did having more hp/liter get the 6g72? Is it faster than an lt1? NOPE. Get better fuel economy than an lt1? NOPE. The lt1 makes more power at 320 torque @ a mere 2k rpm which the v6 can NEVER hope to make without f/i.
VR4/Stealth cheap? They're both more costly than a Camaro. More costly to maintain, more costly to modify and yes the LT1/LS1 use pushrod which is "old" but they still get better fuel economy and make more torque.
If the VR4 is "superior in every aspect" why is it slower stock for stock than an LS1 and get worse fuel economy?
@thetravdawg Just my honest opinion. The 96 Corvette I have pretty much stays within ten miles of the house. I don't trust the car to drive it out of the county I live in. Again, just my opinion. But, the level of engineering that goes into the Mitsu GTO is just higher than that of the Corvette or Camaro. I have a list of mechanical failures on my Corvette so long, youtube says I don't have nearly enough characters remaining to even start. GM=Generic Manufacturer. Junk for the masses.
I'm sorry last time I checked Mitsubishi wasn't number one in reliability, not number two, or number 3 or even number 4 and they are not known for their reliability. So you got a lemon Corvette, it happens. That's not indicative of the entire line by any means. Again I ask if the VR4 is so superior with such infallible technology why then is it no longer in production and the Corvette continue to be pretty much the best selling sports car in the US? Answer me that.
@thetravdawg It's because the Corvette is the American sweetheart of sports cars. Corvettes have a legacy in the US that an import won't ever be able to match in terms of sentimental value. 3000GT's went out of production for the same reasons that most of the sport-class imports at that time ceased to be, mainly oil prices and production costs. Turbos aren't cheap; VR-4's and Supras had two each.
just as i expected... a bunch of wannabe gear heads talking all this shit about "my my z28 will rape your vr4 or my vr4 will fuck your z28." bet you that they don't have any of these cars. lol
3000GT SUPER CAR, LOL MIGHT LOOK LIKE ONE BUT NO WHERE EXPENSIVE AS ONE OR FAST AS ONE WHEN STOCK, BUT WITH ALL THAT MONEY YOU SAVE FROM BUYING A SUPERCAR YOU CAN EASILY MAKE IT A SUPER FAST CAR.
TH30master 175 hahaha not even down a hill sorry... and to bad mustangs and camaros stock are just as fast so please take your 40g ride and sit on a stick
@thetravdawg both standard cars,agricultural v8 twice the capacity vs a jap v6 half the size...find that very funny pmsfl. Now yer feckin idiot before you start insulting ppl,grow a personality and a feckin brain THICK SHYTE wink wink.
You are correct the V6 is a little more than half the displacement of the V8 (3L vs 5.7L in this case) but what you tool import kids forget to mention is the V6 would be NOTHING without the TWIN TURBOS. If it were just the V6 versus V8 naturally aspirated and the V6 was beating the V8 okay you would have a point but the V6 IS NOT naturally aspirated given the twin turbos.
@thetravdawg ermmm yer feckin nob i think the turbos vs twice the capacity cancel each other out.....the fact is the mitz produces over 100 bhp per liter as standard. Now be good yank and go grab a burger feckin prat !!
Horsepower per liter doesn't mean a thing. 100hp per liter WITH the 2 two turbos, take your time and think it through, without the turbos how much horsepower does that 3L make? a touch over 200hp?
I will go grab a burger and enjoy smoking import fanboys like you all the way there and back. Unlike you I actually have a car that performs, you're just another fanboy talking trash on youtube without anything to back it up.
@thetravdawg Ermm if you must know i run a 93 mitz gto tt and a kawasaki xx12r go enjoy your burger and then take your face for a shyte bum boy .Then get used yo the fact a camaro z28 is a dinosaur !!
I'm sorry last I checked the Camaro is in production whereas the 3000GT/Stealth is not. Dinosaur = Extinct (or in your GTO's case NO LONGER IN PRODUCTION, dropped due to being HEAVY and UNRELIABLE).
You probably meant kawasaki zx12r you twat but it's doubtful you own either given your lack of videos.
@thetravdawg yeah your right,a car that first went into production 21 years ago toasting a z28. camaro all noise show and no go (sound familiar - sounds like you).....vr4 anyday.European diesels and 2 litre petrols
Wow must be wonderful living in that land of fantasy. European diesels may make similar torque (LT1s from '93-'97 make 275-305hp w/ 320-335 torque and LS1s '98-''02 make 305-335hp w/ 340-355 torque) but not horsepower and 2L petrols don't make ANYWHERE near those numbers in stock form. So either you're so deluded you actually believe that trash you're spewing or you're just a liar (probably both).
The vr4 was made to compete with the similarly prices Corvette btw. Corvette > vr4.
Get your facts straight 2l cosworths are regularly hitting over the 300 bhp mark,with 400 bhp easily achievable,the same goes for evos and imprezas.Bmw 740d 306bhp,audi Q7 diesel 500bhp both with torque figures to put a z28 to shame. Get to european v8s they kinda show a camaro z28 as a pointless antique, 5l bmw v8 400 bhp,audi 4.2 v8 360 bhp....the list goes on and on FACT now go get yourself another burger (dont chew and hopefully you might choke on the fecker) you obnoxious arrogant fart ;-)
Cosworths? The F1 engines? evos/stis make less hp/torque than the LS1. The 740d makes 306hp and a lot of torque but doesn't perform like the LS1. When you say 2l engines you ALWAYS forget to mention they make that hp/liter with F/I. The powerplant in the Camaro is hardly an antique, that LS variant runs in the SSC Ultimate Aero which knocked the Bugatti off it's pedestal and the LS variants have also brought numerous recent 24hr Le Mans victories to the C5/C6 Corvette.
BMW has a 5l V10 that makes 500hp 380torque and a 4l V8 that makes 414hp 290torque. The 6.2l V8 in the ZR1 Corvette makes 638hp 604torque which is well over 100hp/liter and it destroys most cars above it's price range, the only competitor in it's price range is the R35 GT-R which is (hard for me to admit) an amazing performer.
You digress however, original point being vr4 GTO (which stole it's name from the O.G. GTO muscle car which stole GTO from Ferrari) is SLOWER stock than LS1.
@thetravdawg so where comparing corvettes now.....grow a brain idiot europe makes the most desirable cars in the world,which lets face it a ZR1 aint even in the same league !!
You're the tool who couldn't stay on topic and cited a hoard of other vehicles. Grow a brain? Please like I could care what twats like you in Europe prefer, I live in the USA. "desirable" is purely preference, performance is an entirely different matter. I care more for performance based on what my budget makes available versus what other people consider "desirable."
Two Euro models I would own, the V12 Aston Martin Vantage S and the Audi RS6. All others I could care less about.
@thetravdawg Whatever yer gay feck,stick to yer antique cars and appreciate technology.You want old school you keep driving your tractor engines. Cc for cc american cars arnt worth shyte....go get yer burger dimwit !!
cc for cc doesn't matter and the end of the race. You keep driving your discontinued heap that is technologically more "advanced" yet gets worse fuel economy, doesn't hold together well (your vr4 - if you actually even own one - is a mitsubishi/dodge not a Honda) and IS slower than my LS1 - stock for stock that is.
@thetravdawg Ha ha ha,on a track that american shyte couldnt keep pace with a civic never mind anything track oriented,keep eating them burgers fat boy !!!!!!!!!!!
Like you've ever been to a track with your car. That's always the fanboy fall back when an American car is actually the faster accelerator. All I would need are some track tires and some minor suspension mods and I could not only keep up but beat your 3800lb pig around a course. There are plenty of Camaros on youtube running their cars successfully at tracks.
You're working off of assumptions, not actual knowledge. You should research a little instead.
@thetravdawg Go away gay boy....keep watchin the vid AZ28 GOT TOASTED BY A CAR HALF ITS CAPACITY you yanks need fat cars to hawl your sorry asses n fat feckin guts about wink wink
Again with the assumptions. Had you checked out any of my videos where I'm driving you would know that I'm not fat. I would wager you are the one who is fat, you (supposedly) have a 3000GT vr4 right? Funny how you keep calling American cars "fat" when the car you've been defending and raving about is EXACTLY what you're making fun of.
Just hanging out before I go to work. Unlike your channel mine illustrates that indeed I do have a life: driving, shooting, hiking/camping etc whereas you are just empty claims. You should look in the mirror before telling someone to get a life when you are posting on youtube the same time I am.
joe10toes = "pot calling the kettle black" (a.k.a. a hypocrite)
@thetravdawg Bet your boyfriend luvs you ay gay boy,so much charisma,intellect and a great humor owning a car like that.....yer cant get over the fact a Z28 GOT BLOWN BY A CAR HALF ITS CAPACITY as per vid,try pills,a bullet maybe either way yer startin to bore the shyte outa me - go away little man !!
@thetravdawg Camping,hiking and fishing and a camaro pmsfl......i prefer fast cars,fast bikes,beautiful women and a heavy night out.But there yer go im straight n your an obese homosexual !!
I refute your 3000GT vr4 fanboyism with facts and the best you can come up with is "you're gay"? and "you're fat"? Really? If we were in elementary school or junior high those insults might work. As it is they are just your cover for the frustration of being slower than my American Camaro. Go ahead and face facts, it's okay fanboy admit it.
You prefer "fast cars, fast bikes, beautiful women and a heavy night out"? Right yet it can't be fast if slower than a Camaro.
@thetravdawg Your gay was a fact,like i said watch the video over and over as many times as you want A Z28 GOT BLOWN AWAY BY A CAR HALF ITS CAPACITY,stand by what i said as to you bore the tears outa me,and i stand by the fact your tedious,no charisma - i will give you one plus point youve humor you bought a camaro END OF little man
It's actually "YOU'RE" not "YOUR" and actually I'm not (wife and son beg to differ) but that's besides the point.
Searching "A Z28 GOT BLOWN AWAY BY A CAR HALF ITS CAPACITY" in youtube does not produce the video you're wanting me to see. I could show many videos of Camaros beating 3000GT vr4s:
@thetravdawg LIKE I SAID AND FUNNY AS FECK :-Your gay was a fact,like i said watch the video over and over as many times as you want A Z28 GOT BLOWN AWAY BY A CAR HALF ITS CAPACITY,stand by what i said as to you bore the tears outa me,and i stand by the fact your tedious,no charisma - i will give you one plus point youve humor you bought a camaro END OF little man
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. An N/A 3 cylinder 3000 GT? Learn to count. Half of 8 is 4. A twin turbo charged V6 is technically a bigger engine than the one in the Z28.
@YoDaJedEye Learn to read dumb feck ...half the capacity,not cylinders dimwit !!! And a 3.0 L v6 is bigger than a 5.7L v8 you learn something every day,shoulda spent more time at school pmsfl.....silly me ha ha ha !!!!!!
It's turbocharged, which means it compensates for it's displacement by adding more air and fuel. If it was an NA engine, it would be substantially larger than 3 liters. Your pretty much saying that a 2.0 4 cylinder sucks balls because it's less than half of the displacement of of a 5.7 liter F-body. Never mind the fact that it makes the same amount of power. The 3000GT is a superior car, hands down.
@YoDaJedEye Am sayin a 3 litre twin turbo vs nearly a 6 litre n/a car is pretty equal in my world.We all have our own tastes and we all have our own ideas of what is a perfect performance car is....vr4s rock.
Hey Guys I am buying a 97 3000GT VR4 Twin turbo 5 SPD for 4300 and it only has 49000 miles on it. Thins is a blow off valve is busted and so is the all wheel drive I just wanna know what causes the awd to be broken and how much it's gunna cost to fix it. It's a nice car body kit konig rims rear seats takin out for the stereo system. so someone plz help me by telling me what wrong and how to fix it and how much.
@JGisme430 The AWD transaxle output shaft of the earlier models were not hard enough and would either strip out the splines or bind up. You can get another transmission, or someone (can't remember who) makes a hardened output shaft to fix that. New trans. is pretty expensive, but so is labor to install the new output shaft and rebuild the old trans. Good luck.
There's a lot of VR4's around where I live...and they are sick...Not really an import fan but I have to give credit to Mitsubishi...They really nailed that car... Freaking awesome piece of machinery.
my 119,000mi 93 LT1 formula with I/E empty cats,chip,160 stat(and still have never changed out the crappy 2.73 gears) has shown a shitload of VR-4's it's tailights. why folks keep thinking that LT1's aren't shit are misinformed. i'm 53 and my son's friend raced me with his 99 stock LS1 T/A and from dig and roll it was door to door(really)
i keep my bird running like when i first picked it up,have fun and be safe youngins'
that VR4 needs more boost, that z28 should be seeing tail lights off the line, I don't care if he's doing 10k rpm, just make sure you shift right or kiss that tranny good bye.
Stock vs Stock, the VR4 will take the Z28 off the line, but the Z28 will pull on the VR4 in the long run. The VR4 is a grand tourer - it is designed for high speed handling capability, not strait-line acceleration. For a drag car, I would take the Z28, but I would prefer the VR4 for driving off the track.
@YoureRacist Depends on the year of the Camaro - the 3000 was the faster car in the early 90s, but by the late 90s the Camaro was a little faster. Don't get me wrong - I'm not dogging on VR4s, I own one and love it, with just an upgrade to 13b turboes you can show even 'Vettes your tail lights with ease.
just to settle this I raced my friends 93 vr-4 against my 93 z28 40-100mph and it was a dead heat the whole way. So it's settled they have similar straight line performance. Athough on a standing start that awd would probably give him the edge.
both fast cars but i c camaros on the road too much it gets annoying....gotta stick with my 3KGT because its drop DED gorgous for almost a 20 yearold car
why does everybody gotta bag on these cars...?? there both great and fast and sometimes are almost evenly matched ive seen both go head to head bone stock before it was a sweet race...id take either :)
The corvette didnt step up there game to compete until 1997, thats 6 years of japanese superiority. Even then the Corvette C5 hardly trumped the japanese.
Branden1119 5 days ago
You guys are arguing about two different classes of cars here. The japanese TT's were in competition with the corvette. So you guys talking about boosting the camaro and being better then the 3k is almost naive. Yes you can tune a camaro to be faster than a stock 3k but if someone puts the same money into the 3k that you did youll be back in the same position. All in all its preferance, but American car companies had to step up there game to compete with the Japanese.
Branden1119 5 days ago
if you got low compression, of course the turbo is gonna benefit from this... More fuel, and air can pushed to the chamber. LT1's have 10.4:1 turbo is gonna have very little effect on this engine. Pop in some low compression pistons and a turbo, easily the LT1 can make more than 400hp
Prank6767 5 days ago
You have to crank the boost up on the vr4, My z is na and I took one easily.. But if you do that they should be pretty quick
mikeandtricia350Z 1 week ago
How much boost can a stock 3000GT RV4 handle?
NomadRonin 3 weeks ago
Ha unknown mods = stock.
thunderbirdlver 1 month ago
gay
jagernbabyb 1 month ago
pretty sure the camaro owner would ask, whats torque?
3000gtvr4forever 2 months ago
@3000gtvr4forever Actually, that camaro came stock with around 345 pnd.s of torque. I like camaros but I've just recently discovered the 3000GT VR4s. Definitely want one.
NomadRonin 3 weeks ago
@3000gtvr4forever And it looked pretty close to me.
NomadRonin 3 weeks ago
why would you want a camaro
skillz139 2 months ago
The all wheel drive was fast off the line, but kinda looked like the Camaro caught up. Was this not the case? The Camaro was quiet for a V8.
Dialysisforever 3 months ago
The 3000gt did win, but that is not a Z28 that is clearly a base Camaro with the 3.4 and Z28 badges.
9Tezcatlipoca8 4 months ago
@9Tezcatlipoca8 Wrong thats no 3.4 or 3.8. Those 3000GT's were fast enough to beat LT1 vettes in those days.
vfIskullangel 3 months ago
waaa the camaro got beat and why would you twin turbo the camaro it wouldn't be stock like the vr4 is point of the matter it lost stock to stock
mikh4062 4 months ago
I have and have had a 95 3000gt for a while now and as someone that has owned a good amount of shitty cars, I can tell you mitsubishi put some effort into this one. Not as fast as it's reputation might suggest but honestly it's a very nice car. Hasn't had a single problem since I bought it and it has 80k on it with everything stock. I feel like a lot of the people on here that hate on nice cars like the GT probably don't own a nice car themselves, if they have one at all. Have some respect.
idiotsavant8 4 months ago
@idiotsavant8 VR4's are pretty damn fast, brother... regular 3000GT's aren't.
mrmaynard 3 months ago
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To bad the 3000 gt won also its not exactly a ricer considering it has a twin turbo v6 also that it would destroy any camaro or mustang at the time.
ogwhoppers 4 months ago
camaro pooped on that rice box
07Z06ss 4 months ago
@07Z06ss Just wondering, why have I seen you talking shit on the last 3 or 4 3kgt vids I've watched...? Go watch something else, like someone having sex with z06's.
JooseyJayRemade 4 months ago
@JooseyJayRemade Awwwww, are you butthurt because 3000gt is a crap car? do you want a bottle baby? bwaha
07Z06ss 4 months ago
@07Z06ss Cute troll is cute. <3
JooseyJayRemade 4 months ago
Guys, i own a 3000gt and it need some bpu to be able to beat a stock camaro, that's all. I will still say tho that i'd take a 3s before any camaro, personnal preferences.
xxxmamboxxx 4 months ago
kid in the vr4 couldn't launch..
111zorack 4 months ago
unbiased opinion here because it think both companies make garbage, but why do you think you see 10x the amount of camaros in the junk yard? Maybe because they made 100x as many of them over the mitsubishis. Mitsubishi in the 90s were absolute garbage. Cool when they worked, but beyond that GARBAGE.
hornedfrog2000 5 months ago
So much for the 4wd advantage. Oh and the Z28 was stock
silvertip69 6 months ago
witch pixel is the vr4? lol
AJphillyy 6 months ago
sub me and ill put my camaro on here:)
34mjf 7 months ago
Who the fuck was in charge of putting a 30mph limit on THAT road? They need to be shot.
Predwolf2 7 months ago
that what Mitsubishi faster Pontiac and camaro, Eclipse 1996 and GTO.
d1gps15 8 months ago
@d1gps15 HUHHHH?????? sorry i dont understand what your trying to say lol you sent me a message on my page ?????
TheMarmite09 8 months ago
@TheMarmite09 I said that's what, the Mitsubishi faster than Pontiac and Camaro. is Eclipse 1996 and VR-4 GTO.
d1gps15 8 months ago
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You have got to give the mitsu props.
abrettelle 8 months ago
It's funny that some people say it wouldn't be a contest if you put a turbo on the camaro but a high compression engine doesn't have the same potential as a motor built to boost like the VR-4. You would have to build a 5.7 specifically built for boost to get that potential. And I still say the Vr-4 has more potential.
kwedog2373 9 months ago 9
@kwedog2373 That's a good point.
10072018 3 months ago
@kwedog2373 then machine out your cylinder heads. people get 1000+ hp out of lt1's.
it is hard to find 2 mitsu's with that much together!
onquarter 2 months ago
@onquarter *scrolls list of suggested videos to the right of this comment* "Ray Pampena 1000HP Mitsubishi 3000GT launch"...boy that was hard.
twizted3kgt 1 month ago
@twizted3kgt lol, good point!
onquarter 1 month ago
@kwedog2373 you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. High compression, plus boost, plus fuel, and a good tune=low compression/boosted rape ALLL DAY
wignigeater 1 month ago
@kwedog2373 or put a supercharger on the f body instead of a turbo
shaggyjman 1 week ago
@kwedog2373 my 5.7L turbo trans am makes swiss chesse out of everything i race... vr4 isn't even on the level
2000transam100 1 week ago
if i had a dollar for every pixel in this video...i'd have.....3 dollars.
gannman51 9 months ago 34
@gannman51 lol...
Heem24100 2 months ago
now its clearly posted 30mph zone guys lol
drbos 9 months ago
Both cars are fast as fxck though and are fun to launch in. Camaro lost to a vr4 but hey it was a great race on both drivers. Be glad it didnt loose to a Mustang haha.
atvdemon 9 months ago
Why do people complain because one car is turbo and the other is not? Swap the twin turbos out of the vr4 put a single turbo on both cars and the vr4 will still win. If anything the vr4 will maybe launch even harder if it was just single turbo
atvdemon 9 months ago
too bad the vr4 is in a higher class then a camaro, the twin turbo v6 is more on the higher end of v8 cars, like zo6 and shit like that...my friend is an owner of a vr4 he has more mods then i do and i have a 89 mazda mx6 n he cant pull on me from 20-70
Slobonmyknob2525 9 months ago
i like both cars, but twin turbo that camaro, and that 3000 be eating shit....
gannman51 10 months ago
@gannman51 Yeah n double the mitz to 6 litre with twin turbos it would be over taking the space shuttle
joe10toes 10 months ago
Z28 "unknown mods" AKA stock.
ACMAaron 10 months ago
z28s are gay, i own an sl and still smoked one
Banakala1991 11 months ago
@Banakala1991
No you didn't fanboy.
thetravdawg 11 months ago
your just not looking at the right junk yards and i do see alot of camaros but i see more mustangs than any other car in there but i did find a 3000 gt in there the only problem with it was it had been wrapped aroung a light pole..
crash132 11 months ago
Good job, V8's are gay.
TheDSMsucka 1 year ago
@gijoemomma02 twin turbo z28 baby i will put anything on my maro......and the vr4 will fall apart and it will be put in the junk yard, having said that yes the vr4's are fast but american muscle all the way, and i would love for a vr4 to completely destroy a mustang
crash132 1 year ago
@crash132 haha that's funny I have a hard time finding a twin turbo 3000gt or stealth at junkyards but i see a shit load of camaros lmao.
300zxnisracer 11 months ago 20
@300zxnisracer prolly cause a comaro is a GM, and gm is just a total pos
bpl0807 5 months ago
@300zxnisracer that would make sense since the Camaro out sold both of those cars.
ladygodia 4 months ago
speed limit is 30 boys
TheUtube4ever 1 year ago
haha the camaro got the jump but the vr4 still owned him ! awesome
tansamnat2 1 year ago
i have a 95 z28 that will put that vr4 in its place which is in the junk yard
crash132 1 year ago
@crash132 untilll you find one with 16g turbos that leave your little wanna be muscle car in the dust.
GIjoemomma002 1 year ago
i feel bad for the redneck that drives the camaro i throwup everytime i see it
ryank3lly 1 year ago
The camaro prolly didnt have any mods what so ever. therefore yes, the vr4 won
MrBenson3436 1 year ago
VR4= Bruce Lee.
brbn93 1 year ago
camaros r for red necks
scottbux22 1 year ago
its funny ppl are arguing over the ls1 blah blah well in this vid it is an lt1 and this block will hold boost and any other power adder twice as well as the ls1... the lt1 is a iron block, ls1 is aluminum easy to see why the ls1 guys switch to the LQ4 iron blocks when they want to run boost. anyway both these cars are so close in power and track times stock to stock. both are nice but the vr4s cost alot more then a z28 then and now. mod for mod the z28 is cheaper,faster,more reliable hands down
JPARKERZ28 1 year ago
@JPARKERZ28 shut up, you're just a cheap pussy..if you know cars then you should know that there's no comparison..vr-4/stealth all day babbbyy!
XuleGua 1 year ago
@JPARKERZ28 I had a 93 VR4, and I've now got a 96 Corvette. I am an American, a certified aircraft mechanic, have worked for the power company on all their vehicles, as well as constuction equipment. I can tell you with a great deal of confidence, the Corvette is not even close, nor a Camaro for that matter, to the level of engineering that a Mitsu VR4 is. The VR4 is a far superior automobile, in every aspect. Plus, mega power, cheap.
bill4488 1 year ago
@bill4488 So? Being a Mechanic doesn't make you an engineer. The VR4 isn't any more complicated than any other car, its a Galant with 4wd and a Turbo.
orbitofdoom16 1 year ago
@orbitofdoom16 It was a 3000gt VR4. And, actually, a certified aircraft mechanic does engineer repairs on a regular basis. I stand by my statement that the 3000GT VR4 was a far superior car when compared with the same year Camaro or Corvette. I suppose you are an engineer? I've got a 73 Charger and a 73 Datsun project right now underway. I love old American muscle. But, my Corvette feels like its going to come apart over 100mph, while the VR4 felt rock solid at 150. Personal experience.
bill4488 1 year ago
@orbitofdoom16 Just thought I'd ad an afterthought. A naturally aspirated 1996 6g72 (the engine in a base SL model 3000gt) makes 74 horsepower per litre. The same year Corvette or Camaro with the LT1 (just like the 96 model I have) makes 53 horsepower per litre. Care to give a dissertation on horsepower per liter and why the naturally aspirated LT1 makes roughly two thirds the power of a naturally aspirated 6g72?
bill4488 1 year ago
@bill4488 It doesn't really matter. GM certainly had the technology to make a naturally aspirated LS2 make more than 600 horsepower. The insurance would be stupid expensive, and the socialist government we have today would tax the hell out of it, but yes, they could have done it easy. The 6G72 is no more advanced than the Ford or Chevrolet V6s of similar displacement, and as for your other comment, yes, I have a dual major as an Engineer and Physics, and I'm also a certified automobile mechanic
orbitofdoom16 1 year ago
@orbitofdoom16 Okay. We are just going to have to agree to disagree. I've had both automobiles. The Corvette and the VR4. The VR4 is a much higher quality auto all the way around. They've had some issues like many cars, but overall a better vehicle. Here are a few examples of some of the engineering flaws on the vette. Radiatior, intake gasket set, distributor, hood latch cable, window motor, both seat transmissions, rusted fuel line, fuel pump, transmission rebuild, left rear hub and more.
bill4488 1 year ago
@bill4488 I find your comment amazing. My friend bought a 91 stealth TT over a year ago....for 3,000 dollars. He's drove it like a race car since day one. Still runs like it did the day he bought it. You need another stealth. Awesome car to begin with. TT...awd...beautiful combo. It sticks to the road too with the tires he has
250honda 1 year ago 8
@250honda men 3000 dollars lucky lucky
papi69pa 8 months ago
@250honda I sure can relate to that! I had a 91 Steath RT and I drove the hell out of it I mean it was pedel to the metel all the time and it never tore up on me! It was nearly indestructable! Way ahead of its class!
Bluevetteboy2012 4 months ago
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@orbitofdoom16 Okay. We are just going to have to agree to disagree. I've had both automobiles. The Corvette and the VR4. The VR4 is a much higher quality auto all the way around. They've had some issues like many cars, but overall a better vehicle. Here are a few examples of some of the engineering flaws on the vette. Radiatior, intake gasket set, distributor, hood latch cable, window motor, both seat transmissions, rusted fuel line, fuel pump, transmission rebuild, left rear hub and more.
bill4488 1 year ago
@bill4488 And Have been so since my senior year in high school with our explorer program. The N/A LT1 in your Camaro makes around 290(51 Horsepower per liter), it you want to go to the highest output its 330(58 Horsepower per liter), the same generation N/A 6G72 makes around 150(50 Horsepower per liter). The same 5.7s can be easily tuned to make 500 horsepower in one afternoon.
orbitofdoom16 1 year ago
@orbitofdoom16 And, the 6g72 used in the 3kgt or stealth was overhead cam 24valve making 222 hp. not 150. This is my personal experience. The Mitsu was trouble free and my Corvette is an absolute piece of garbage. As far as an afternoon tune, unless you bolt on a turbo or supercharger to the Corvette, you can get more power out of a 6g72 twin turbo with a days worth of tuning. My granddad told me once, American cars are made to sell, not to last.
bill4488 1 year ago
@bill4488
That's why the Camaro lasted 4 generations and now a 5th? Where is the VR4/Stealth? Why did they stop production after only 11 years? My '94 LT1 stomped on imports with full exhaust tune and my '99 Camaro SS is even quicker with less mods.
The VR4/Stealth have ZERO engine bay space to work on, aftermarket parts are more expensive, they're heavier than Camaro/Trans Ams and get worse economy. Plus stock for stock the LS1 is FASTER.
thetravdawg 11 months ago
@thetravdawg dodge replaced the Stealth wit the Viper dickhead, Camaro is a piece of shyt car , my Stealth beat a 2011 Camaro &beat a 2001 Camaro wit mods, Camaros arent fast theyre shyt, lmao &if u wanna talk about muscle ill get my boys Challenger Srt8 ­t on your Camaro piece of trash car(:
foxxbabyy 10 months ago
@foxxbabyy
Dodge replaced the Stealth with the Viper?? Haha what a tool. The went on sale for 1991 in the US as did the Stealth but the Stealth lasted until 1996 whereas the Viper is still going. The Stealth was an import, basically the same as the 3000GT idiot.
Your Stealth beat a Forester, wow. That's the only victory you have any proof of. News flash retard, the 2010 Camaro is way faster than the Challenger SRT8. Your Stealth isn't even a twin turbo, it's not beating a dang thing.
thetravdawg 10 months ago
@thetravdawg &ihad 5 ppl in the car, in rush hour traffic jackass, &no the fuck its not , im not talkin about a Camaro SS fucker, you domt know shyt, iwork on cars all day , but iight, iwill show you videos everything, since your so fuckin retarted , lmao &my stealth has way over 300hp , but iight let me go buy a camera &record everytime irace,
foxxbabyy 10 months ago
@foxxbabyy
Is your Stealth a twin turbo?
You should learn to spell and forming a complete sentence would be helpful.
thetravdawg 10 months ago
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@bill4488
What exactly did having more hp/liter get the 6g72? Is it faster than an lt1? NOPE. Get better fuel economy than an lt1? NOPE. The lt1 makes more power at 320 torque @ a mere 2k rpm which the v6 can NEVER hope to make without f/i.
hp/liter = lame arguement
thetravdawg 6 months ago
Actually, it's a diamante/magna with AWD and twin-turbo.
kozigreek 1 year ago
@bill4488
VR4/Stealth cheap? They're both more costly than a Camaro. More costly to maintain, more costly to modify and yes the LT1/LS1 use pushrod which is "old" but they still get better fuel economy and make more torque.
If the VR4 is "superior in every aspect" why is it slower stock for stock than an LS1 and get worse fuel economy?
thetravdawg 11 months ago
@thetravdawg Just my honest opinion. The 96 Corvette I have pretty much stays within ten miles of the house. I don't trust the car to drive it out of the county I live in. Again, just my opinion. But, the level of engineering that goes into the Mitsu GTO is just higher than that of the Corvette or Camaro. I have a list of mechanical failures on my Corvette so long, youtube says I don't have nearly enough characters remaining to even start. GM=Generic Manufacturer. Junk for the masses.
bill4488 6 months ago
@bill4488
I'm sorry last time I checked Mitsubishi wasn't number one in reliability, not number two, or number 3 or even number 4 and they are not known for their reliability. So you got a lemon Corvette, it happens. That's not indicative of the entire line by any means. Again I ask if the VR4 is so superior with such infallible technology why then is it no longer in production and the Corvette continue to be pretty much the best selling sports car in the US? Answer me that.
thetravdawg 6 months ago
@thetravdawg true
silvertip69 6 months ago
@thetravdawg but how much more is a corvette than a mitsu?
aguichris 6 months ago
@thetravdawg It's because the Corvette is the American sweetheart of sports cars. Corvettes have a legacy in the US that an import won't ever be able to match in terms of sentimental value. 3000GT's went out of production for the same reasons that most of the sport-class imports at that time ceased to be, mainly oil prices and production costs. Turbos aren't cheap; VR-4's and Supras had two each.
Riot621 6 months ago
just as i expected... a bunch of wannabe gear heads talking all this shit about "my my z28 will rape your vr4 or my vr4 will fuck your z28." bet you that they don't have any of these cars. lol
bzrkr4588 1 year ago
30 mph speed limit sign FTW
t8trg8tr 1 year ago
3000GT SUPER CAR, LOL MIGHT LOOK LIKE ONE BUT NO WHERE EXPENSIVE AS ONE OR FAST AS ONE WHEN STOCK, BUT WITH ALL THAT MONEY YOU SAVE FROM BUYING A SUPERCAR YOU CAN EASILY MAKE IT A SUPER FAST CAR.
Vladle2099 1 year ago
iS THAT A 30MPH ROAD? LOL GREAT WIN FOR THE VR4.
Vladle2099 1 year ago
LT1 ftl...LS1 different story
leschampagnes1 1 year ago
TH30master 175 hahaha not even down a hill sorry... and to bad mustangs and camaros stock are just as fast so please take your 40g ride and sit on a stick
JPARKERZ28 1 year ago
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ha ha ha,half the ceee ceeees and two cylinders less - VR4S rock,bye bye z28 pmsfl !!!!!!
joe10toes 1 year ago
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joe10toes 1 year ago
@joe10toes
Two cylinders less with TWIN TURBOS you tool.
thetravdawg 11 months ago
@thetravdawg both standard cars,agricultural v8 twice the capacity vs a jap v6 half the size...find that very funny pmsfl. Now yer feckin idiot before you start insulting ppl,grow a personality and a feckin brain THICK SHYTE wink wink.
joe10toes 10 months ago
@joe10toes
You are correct the V6 is a little more than half the displacement of the V8 (3L vs 5.7L in this case) but what you tool import kids forget to mention is the V6 would be NOTHING without the TWIN TURBOS. If it were just the V6 versus V8 naturally aspirated and the V6 was beating the V8 okay you would have a point but the V6 IS NOT naturally aspirated given the twin turbos.
The one that needs to grow a brain would be you.
thetravdawg 10 months ago
@thetravdawg ermmm yer feckin nob i think the turbos vs twice the capacity cancel each other out.....the fact is the mitz produces over 100 bhp per liter as standard. Now be good yank and go grab a burger feckin prat !!
joe10toes 10 months ago
@joe10toes
Horsepower per liter doesn't mean a thing. 100hp per liter WITH the 2 two turbos, take your time and think it through, without the turbos how much horsepower does that 3L make? a touch over 200hp?
I will go grab a burger and enjoy smoking import fanboys like you all the way there and back. Unlike you I actually have a car that performs, you're just another fanboy talking trash on youtube without anything to back it up.
thetravdawg 10 months ago
@thetravdawg Ermm if you must know i run a 93 mitz gto tt and a kawasaki xx12r go enjoy your burger and then take your face for a shyte bum boy .Then get used yo the fact a camaro z28 is a dinosaur !!
joe10toes 10 months ago
@joe10toes
I'm sorry last I checked the Camaro is in production whereas the 3000GT/Stealth is not. Dinosaur = Extinct (or in your GTO's case NO LONGER IN PRODUCTION, dropped due to being HEAVY and UNRELIABLE).
You probably meant kawasaki zx12r you twat but it's doubtful you own either given your lack of videos.
thetravdawg 10 months ago
@thetravdawg yeah your right,a car that first went into production 21 years ago toasting a z28. camaro all noise show and no go (sound familiar - sounds like you).....vr4 anyday.European diesels and 2 litre petrols
are making more power than that pile of shyte :-)
joe10toes 10 months ago
@joe10toes
Wow must be wonderful living in that land of fantasy. European diesels may make similar torque (LT1s from '93-'97 make 275-305hp w/ 320-335 torque and LS1s '98-''02 make 305-335hp w/ 340-355 torque) but not horsepower and 2L petrols don't make ANYWHERE near those numbers in stock form. So either you're so deluded you actually believe that trash you're spewing or you're just a liar (probably both).
The vr4 was made to compete with the similarly prices Corvette btw. Corvette > vr4.
thetravdawg 10 months ago
Get your facts straight 2l cosworths are regularly hitting over the 300 bhp mark,with 400 bhp easily achievable,the same goes for evos and imprezas.Bmw 740d 306bhp,audi Q7 diesel 500bhp both with torque figures to put a z28 to shame. Get to european v8s they kinda show a camaro z28 as a pointless antique, 5l bmw v8 400 bhp,audi 4.2 v8 360 bhp....the list goes on and on FACT now go get yourself another burger (dont chew and hopefully you might choke on the fecker) you obnoxious arrogant fart ;-)
joe10toes 10 months ago
@joe10toes
Cosworths? The F1 engines? evos/stis make less hp/torque than the LS1. The 740d makes 306hp and a lot of torque but doesn't perform like the LS1. When you say 2l engines you ALWAYS forget to mention they make that hp/liter with F/I. The powerplant in the Camaro is hardly an antique, that LS variant runs in the SSC Ultimate Aero which knocked the Bugatti off it's pedestal and the LS variants have also brought numerous recent 24hr Le Mans victories to the C5/C6 Corvette.
thetravdawg 10 months ago
@joe10toes
BMW has a 5l V10 that makes 500hp 380torque and a 4l V8 that makes 414hp 290torque. The 6.2l V8 in the ZR1 Corvette makes 638hp 604torque which is well over 100hp/liter and it destroys most cars above it's price range, the only competitor in it's price range is the R35 GT-R which is (hard for me to admit) an amazing performer.
You digress however, original point being vr4 GTO (which stole it's name from the O.G. GTO muscle car which stole GTO from Ferrari) is SLOWER stock than LS1.
thetravdawg 10 months ago
@thetravdawg so where comparing corvettes now.....grow a brain idiot europe makes the most desirable cars in the world,which lets face it a ZR1 aint even in the same league !!
joe10toes 10 months ago
@joe10toes
You're the tool who couldn't stay on topic and cited a hoard of other vehicles. Grow a brain? Please like I could care what twats like you in Europe prefer, I live in the USA. "desirable" is purely preference, performance is an entirely different matter. I care more for performance based on what my budget makes available versus what other people consider "desirable."
Two Euro models I would own, the V12 Aston Martin Vantage S and the Audi RS6. All others I could care less about.
thetravdawg 10 months ago
@thetravdawg Whatever yer gay feck,stick to yer antique cars and appreciate technology.You want old school you keep driving your tractor engines. Cc for cc american cars arnt worth shyte....go get yer burger dimwit !!
joe10toes 10 months ago
@joe10toes
cc for cc doesn't matter and the end of the race. You keep driving your discontinued heap that is technologically more "advanced" yet gets worse fuel economy, doesn't hold together well (your vr4 - if you actually even own one - is a mitsubishi/dodge not a Honda) and IS slower than my LS1 - stock for stock that is.
thetravdawg 10 months ago
@thetravdawg Ha ha ha,on a track that american shyte couldnt keep pace with a civic never mind anything track oriented,keep eating them burgers fat boy !!!!!!!!!!!
joe10toes 10 months ago
@joe10toes
Like you've ever been to a track with your car. That's always the fanboy fall back when an American car is actually the faster accelerator. All I would need are some track tires and some minor suspension mods and I could not only keep up but beat your 3800lb pig around a course. There are plenty of Camaros on youtube running their cars successfully at tracks.
You're working off of assumptions, not actual knowledge. You should research a little instead.
thetravdawg 10 months ago
@thetravdawg Go away gay boy....keep watchin the vid AZ28 GOT TOASTED BY A CAR HALF ITS CAPACITY you yanks need fat cars to hawl your sorry asses n fat feckin guts about wink wink
joe10toes 10 months ago
@joe10toes
Again with the assumptions. Had you checked out any of my videos where I'm driving you would know that I'm not fat. I would wager you are the one who is fat, you (supposedly) have a 3000GT vr4 right? Funny how you keep calling American cars "fat" when the car you've been defending and raving about is EXACTLY what you're making fun of.
Camaro = 3400lbs
3000GT vr4 = 3800lbs
Keep posting hypocrite.
thetravdawg 10 months ago
@thetravdawg Are you really this sad and sorry in real life !!!! Ever heard the expression get a life you sad prick !!!!
joe10toes 10 months ago
@joe10toes
Just hanging out before I go to work. Unlike your channel mine illustrates that indeed I do have a life: driving, shooting, hiking/camping etc whereas you are just empty claims. You should look in the mirror before telling someone to get a life when you are posting on youtube the same time I am.
joe10toes = "pot calling the kettle black" (a.k.a. a hypocrite)
thetravdawg 10 months ago
@thetravdawg Bet your boyfriend luvs you ay gay boy,so much charisma,intellect and a great humor owning a car like that.....yer cant get over the fact a Z28 GOT BLOWN BY A CAR HALF ITS CAPACITY as per vid,try pills,a bullet maybe either way yer startin to bore the shyte outa me - go away little man !!
joe10toes 10 months ago
@thetravdawg Camping,hiking and fishing and a camaro pmsfl......i prefer fast cars,fast bikes,beautiful women and a heavy night out.But there yer go im straight n your an obese homosexual !!
joe10toes 10 months ago
@joe10toes
I refute your 3000GT vr4 fanboyism with facts and the best you can come up with is "you're gay"? and "you're fat"? Really? If we were in elementary school or junior high those insults might work. As it is they are just your cover for the frustration of being slower than my American Camaro. Go ahead and face facts, it's okay fanboy admit it.
You prefer "fast cars, fast bikes, beautiful women and a heavy night out"? Right yet it can't be fast if slower than a Camaro.
thetravdawg 10 months ago
@thetravdawg Your gay was a fact,like i said watch the video over and over as many times as you want A Z28 GOT BLOWN AWAY BY A CAR HALF ITS CAPACITY,stand by what i said as to you bore the tears outa me,and i stand by the fact your tedious,no charisma - i will give you one plus point youve humor you bought a camaro END OF little man
joe10toes 10 months ago
@joe10toes
It's actually "YOU'RE" not "YOUR" and actually I'm not (wife and son beg to differ) but that's besides the point.
Searching "A Z28 GOT BLOWN AWAY BY A CAR HALF ITS CAPACITY" in youtube does not produce the video you're wanting me to see. I could show many videos of Camaros beating 3000GT vr4s:
/watch?v=2iZ7MTVNK9k
/watch?v=5evek-puTHk&feature=related
/watch?v=p-F0hc6yqiU&feature=related
/watch?v=liXf5pVSzwE&feature=related
Go away fanboy, I don't need your "plus point"
thetravdawg 10 months ago
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@thetravdawg LIKE I SAID AND FUNNY AS FECK :-Your gay was a fact,like i said watch the video over and over as many times as you want A Z28 GOT BLOWN AWAY BY A CAR HALF ITS CAPACITY,stand by what i said as to you bore the tears outa me,and i stand by the fact your tedious,no charisma - i will give you one plus point youve humor you bought a camaro END OF little man
joe10toes 10 months ago
@joe10toes Half it's capacity with 2 turbos you mean. You could single turbo the Camaro and it would no longer be a contest.
Superman83271 10 months ago
@joe10toes
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. An N/A 3 cylinder 3000 GT? Learn to count. Half of 8 is 4. A twin turbo charged V6 is technically a bigger engine than the one in the Z28.
YoDaJedEye 10 months ago
@YoDaJedEye Learn to read dumb feck ...half the capacity,not cylinders dimwit !!! And a 3.0 L v6 is bigger than a 5.7L v8 you learn something every day,shoulda spent more time at school pmsfl.....silly me ha ha ha !!!!!!
joe10toes 10 months ago
@joe10toes
It's turbocharged, which means it compensates for it's displacement by adding more air and fuel. If it was an NA engine, it would be substantially larger than 3 liters. Your pretty much saying that a 2.0 4 cylinder sucks balls because it's less than half of the displacement of of a 5.7 liter F-body. Never mind the fact that it makes the same amount of power. The 3000GT is a superior car, hands down.
YoDaJedEye 10 months ago
@YoDaJedEye Am sayin a 3 litre twin turbo vs nearly a 6 litre n/a car is pretty equal in my world.We all have our own tastes and we all have our own ideas of what is a perfect performance car is....vr4s rock.
joe10toes 10 months ago
Hey Guys I am buying a 97 3000GT VR4 Twin turbo 5 SPD for 4300 and it only has 49000 miles on it. Thins is a blow off valve is busted and so is the all wheel drive I just wanna know what causes the awd to be broken and how much it's gunna cost to fix it. It's a nice car body kit konig rims rear seats takin out for the stereo system. so someone plz help me by telling me what wrong and how to fix it and how much.
JGisme430 1 year ago
@JGisme430 The AWD transaxle output shaft of the earlier models were not hard enough and would either strip out the splines or bind up. You can get another transmission, or someone (can't remember who) makes a hardened output shaft to fix that. New trans. is pretty expensive, but so is labor to install the new output shaft and rebuild the old trans. Good luck.
bill4488 1 year ago
There's a lot of VR4's around where I live...and they are sick...Not really an import fan but I have to give credit to Mitsubishi...They really nailed that car... Freaking awesome piece of machinery.
scott93257 1 year ago
Speed limit 30 guys slow down
J3000GTSLTT 1 year ago 10
i'd take a republican over an import anyday!!!!
thathkimll 1 year ago
my 119,000mi 93 LT1 formula with I/E empty cats,chip,160 stat(and still have never changed out the crappy 2.73 gears) has shown a shitload of VR-4's it's tailights. why folks keep thinking that LT1's aren't shit are misinformed. i'm 53 and my son's friend raced me with his 99 stock LS1 T/A and from dig and roll it was door to door(really)
i keep my bird running like when i first picked it up,have fun and be safe youngins'
use2slam2 1 year ago
@use2slam2 i think you are having problems differentiating a 3000gt n/a from a vr4
YoureRacist 1 year ago
Dang that z28 took off! Pretty good launch. The vr4 had a bad launch. I have a 99 vr4 and know I can pull a better launch than that from 3.5krpm.
hexxum 1 year ago
What a horrible launch, no way a Z28 should be all over an AWD TT off the line.
Petitt427 1 year ago
that VR4 needs more boost, that z28 should be seeing tail lights off the line, I don't care if he's doing 10k rpm, just make sure you shift right or kiss that tranny good bye.
crazyseeker24 1 year ago
Stock vs Stock, the VR4 will take the Z28 off the line, but the Z28 will pull on the VR4 in the long run. The VR4 is a grand tourer - it is designed for high speed handling capability, not strait-line acceleration. For a drag car, I would take the Z28, but I would prefer the VR4 for driving off the track.
Dreznin 1 year ago
@Dreznin it is also designed for strait line...\
4wheel drive with a clutch could whip anyone off the line....
6k rpm launch vs a 1500 for me and i kept up with him
gdcod3player 1 year ago
@Dreznin vr4 has quicker 0-60 & 1/4 mi and faster top speed, whatchu talkin bout willis?
YoureRacist 1 year ago
@YoureRacist Depends on the year of the Camaro - the 3000 was the faster car in the early 90s, but by the late 90s the Camaro was a little faster. Don't get me wrong - I'm not dogging on VR4s, I own one and love it, with just an upgrade to 13b turboes you can show even 'Vettes your tail lights with ease.
Dreznin 1 year ago
thetravdawg 11 months ago
dude its an lt1 relax, there really not the fast at all....... its sad that for such a price difference the vr4 barely won
turbonegro1120 1 year ago
half the time reading the comments is more entertaining than watching the video.
palefaced1 1 year ago
an LT1????
ITRIEDEL 1 year ago
@4g63affair hey dumbfuck he was talking about a bike
sinisterseven8 1 year ago
Lol a modded Vr4 can barely take an LT1 eh? Yah...thats real fast lol.
TiKondaRoga 1 year ago
my 3000gt does 119 in 3rd gear shifting at 6900 rpms
SpartanAtom 1 year ago
he said kph dude not mph be easy
Htown113 1 year ago
my honda cbr can do 102 in second gear but aint no way in hell a car will unless you can run 13000 rpms
CBRKing2042 1 year ago
@CBRKing2042 vr4s can do 130 in 3rd gear
TH3Omaster 1 year ago
couldve meant 102 kph, 63ish in 2nd sounds more doable.
dhillskier75 1 year ago
nice vr4 ftw
tahil23 2 years ago 15
just to settle this I raced my friends 93 vr-4 against my 93 z28 40-100mph and it was a dead heat the whole way. So it's settled they have similar straight line performance. Athough on a standing start that awd would probably give him the edge.
theiceman2448 2 years ago
both fast cars but i c camaros on the road too much it gets annoying....gotta stick with my 3KGT because its drop DED gorgous for almost a 20 yearold car
Asiantwinturbo 2 years ago
some people like to go slow? you mean some people like to race without their car falling apart haha sorry gotta go with the VR-4
Ahall3sfest 2 years ago
The thing is the 3000gt is the heavier of the two. Weight is around 3700lbs so do some research next time.
xtcimports 2 years ago
why does everybody gotta bag on these cars...?? there both great and fast and sometimes are almost evenly matched ive seen both go head to head bone stock before it was a sweet race...id take either :)
SWATKIID 2 years ago
vr4's rule! id take a vr4 over a z28 or ss any time, any day ...
TikiFerrari 2 years ago 19
thats ok, some people like to go slow.....
bizzlesnatch 2 years ago 2
Me 2
Aztech355 2 years ago