Basic Tips & Techniques for Soundproofing : Building the Interior of a Recording Studio

[aciddayz]

egg crates don't really absorb any sound..maybe redirect a few higher frequences. I'm not sure where the egg box myth came from but it's nonsense (unless you pack 20cm of Rockwool behind it.)

[ProductionSouthTexas]

i want whatever this guys on,

[DrUmSensitive]

Nice shirt!



[snotspooper]

That may be the gayest name for a recording studio.. ever.

[progrocker9]

Can you build one of these, naysayers? I just don't get it. This is free information from people who know their stuff and they're probably pretty nice people. What's with all the hate mail? Thanks for the tutorial EV!

[WickedSpider12]

I'm Behalf Of "Expert Village" You Girl's Have No "Expert" In Your Name You Girl's Suck Ass!

[louis595]

well this didn't help at all, he just talked about pool, and sound reflecting. the title says SOUNDPROOFING.....

[xroadsglass]

I'm surprised I did not see any comments about a simple, very effective technique common in the window industry. You can achieve a significant reduction in sound transmission by installing insulated glass with DIFFERENT GLASS THICKNESSES on each side, most commonly 1/4" thick on the inside pane (laminated is even better but expensive) and 1/8" on the outside pane. You can order the insulated glass from any local window dealer, just make sure it's 1" thick overall. Ask any glass shop, it works!

[Jbaxter792]

Well, I certainly don't know everything - just making the point that we're talking about SOUNDPROOFING here (preventing sound from creeping into the other room). He is talking about sound reflectivity here, and isn't making much mention of keeping source sounds contained within their respective room(s) . Thanks for your response, congolaw. I was referring to minimizing sound transference for the sake of SOUNDPROOFING. Respectfully, JB

[carlosroj]

Do you think that rounded walls as those used in photography studios would be good for the sound or is it better to angle the walls as you said in the video?

[Jbaxter792]

Actually, the real reason for angled windows is to minimize parallel sound transferrance from one glass window to the next. (3) rules to follow when constructing recording studio windows using dual glass: 1) Glass must have an angle (not parallel). 2) Use DIFFERENT THICKNESS of glass (ie. 1/4" & 3/8", etc.) 3) Keep as much space as possible in between the glasses. Follow these rules closely and you'll have a WONDERFULLY EFFECTIVE window with superb isolation.

[Poddymagee]

Don't look at me in that tone

[Raindarsus]

Question, have you used two windows one behind the other with at least 6 inch spacing in between them? If not sound proofing must be a bugger for you at the windows themselves with leakage through the windows. I don't see any corking around your window frames and the windows themselves either. Good info for the rest and good use of a two leafs wall system.

[infinity2cosmos]

thanks for the information.

[jnyce695]

WOW!!!!!!! THAT WAS THE MOST VALUABLE INFORMATION IVE LEARNED ABOUT SOUND ISOLATION PROBABLY EVER LOL. THANK YOU SOO MUCH. NOW I NEED TO CHANGE THE GLASS IN MY STUDIO. I USED TO PATIO DOORS AND SAT THEM DOWN SIDEWAYS TO MAKE A WINDOW FROM MY BOOTH TO CONTROL ROOM. NOW I JUST NEED TO ANGLE THEM.

[chippinfoo]

The tilting of the windows worked well for me, thank you for your tip!

[elcantanteoriginal]

i clicked refresh and still got the same commercial

[huttofiji]

what about just installing video cameras instead of windows?

[avry87]

that's really the biggest shit i ever heard....nothing new...and the room is not so good soundproofed....anyway, if you want to create a home studio, you have to cover the walls with egg crates, and if you want to put some windows on your recording studio, is true, you have to angle them, cuz if not you wil have a bad reverber on your voice...and that's not good, and you will need 2 panels windows, to isolate the sound very good, the size of the room depends of how many artist you want inside..

[avry87]

i don't know...is not so hard to make a recording studio...you will know what to do if you start to make a studio... when I builted my studio I have covered all the walls shaped sponge (egg crates), I placed a small glass windows, and we put carpet on the floor, and the sound was very good...and the studio was builded in the kitchen store, with overlooking in the living room

[Raindarsus]

@avry87 I bet if we came in with a room analyzer to see the frequency response of your room, we would see a lot of modals in the frequencies. Building a Studio isn't that easy. There is a lot of things to consider than just placing carpet here, eggs boxes there and voila. *rolls eyes*

[youngfreestlouis]

I've been recording in studios for about 10 years. Every professional studio I've ever been to has had flat windows and flat walls. People get caught up way too much in the construction, size, and shape of the room. The best vocal room I've ever "heard" was about the size of a bedroom with little to no muffling placed on the walls. The best live room I've ever heard was huge and had mobile walls to get the specific sound the artist was looking for.

[Raindarsus]

@youngfreestlouis that's because it's a live room, not the Control room. The control room will and should have a lot more "muffing" as you call it to give you a flat as possible frequency response. So that when you mix, you don't get a mix that is flawed by the room itself. If you have a good sound proofing and sound acoustics in your CT room and good near fields or mid fields monitors, the only person you can blame is yourself for a bad mix.

[youngfreestlouis]

@Raindarsus I was talking about the live room.

[Raindarsus]

@youngfreestlouis Read my comment again then. Cause the soundproofing and acoustics are most important in the CT (control room) although very important also in the live room.

[youngfreestlouis]

@Raindarsus We were not ever talking about the control room, we were talking about rooms in studios in general. If you read my comment again, you would understand the point I am trying to make. This video gets way too caught up in what is "right" and "wrong" in the studio realm, when typically I have seen the abnormal come out with better sounds.

[Raindarsus]

@youngfreestlouis I don't know if you realize but a home studio is basically a control room with an area in the control room where the person stands up to sigh, sit down to play his guitar or drums. 90% of home studios have no dedicated live room. That being said this video was about a live room, and in a live room you do want to have good acoustic and reverb control which is what I was making mention to when I spoke of modals.>

[Raindarsus]

> You can have the best CT room ever, with the best acoustics, monitors, boards, effect and whatnot. If your live room is bad, then your source take is bad and there is often very little you can do about that. Which is why even in the Live room, acoustic treatment and reverb control is important. So yes, how you build your live room will have a very very very significant aspect on how your source will sound when capture.

[Raindarsus]

@Raindarsus And eggs boxes is probably the most low tech and most flawed aspect of how to control reverberation and tonal control, as the cardboard will only take a certain range of frequencies.. mostly in the mids. Which has no control over the bass or high frequencies what so ever.

[Raindarsus]

> That's the difference between a low-fi studio that doesn't even fit the semi-pro classification and the semi-pro. The semi-pro will have low budget but they will still try to pay attention to how their live and ct room sound.

[youngfreestlouis]

@Raindarsus If you weren't talking about the live room then why did ever reply to my comment? You don't need to "school" me in recording tips. I have two music degrees and have been playing and working in studios for 10 years.

[Raindarsus]

@youngfreestlouis Good for you, I've been working and building studios for 16 but that's beside the point. I was talking of both. CT and Live rooms. Read my comments again.

[mydadcankillurs]

I swear expert village doesn't teach you shit, if it does its always a stupid person to describe what you have to do and takes a minute 2 figure out.

[youngtrigatherealest]

Soun doesnt go straight. it spreads out. wow



[FreezEntertainment]

i like some of my walls angled

[chesterboy12354]

You need double walls and 2 panes of glass in seperate frames to dop it right. you'll be lucky to get 10 db attenuation from what you have there....

[bearboneskentuck]

The best absorbent material for bass traps is ragwool/Firm 2 Inches thick

[bearboneskentuck]

why in the hell do you have the script covering the entire screne....da............

[lalagirlygirl]

@bearboneskentuck Your a dumbass. For people who are death.

[Reflexxmusic]

Great tip about the windows dude! i heard and saw about the walls alot what the room is just in a wierd shape but with that windows i've never seen or heard of :) Thanks alot!

[frankzy89]

this is really 'helpful' boss..

[JohnandJordan]

i hate the new youtube. it has become a tv with all this ads and commercials.

[darrenguitar]

the glass is angled to remove standing waves. hope you have at least 3 panes of glass to reduce room spill

[sum33]

dont do it its retarded

[CoGnAcDiPpEd1]

@2:07 Egg Crates? uhh that dont absorb sound WTF! village are they from were these guys are the experts? some one please tell me oh and anouther thing. this studio better be for fun. if i was too walk in and see egg crates obove my head... This Fucking Fossil would not get a dime.like im finna be creative and recording thinking about how my shit sounds bouncing off these crates!! lol! dont mean to be harsh im just triyng to blend in with these other comments keep up the good work :-)

[Naafun]

He meant it as slang dude.

You can see what he is referring to just above the windows.

They look like egg cartons... but they aint!

You're right though- ACTUAL egg cartons dont do a thing to absorb sound.

[Audiowithalex]

@Naafun yea egg cartons suck ass, and they're extremely flammable lol

[ReadyTape]

I think he could have done it cheaper by A. Doubling the thickness by staggering the studs B SOME insulating,,,maybe some triangular foam glued to that,,,not to forget the dead space needed and finally C opt for real wood,,,not ROCK (Stone is good for reverb,,,but transmitt too much high freqs

[MaurqelHbkWatts]

expert village is a bunch of greaseball motherfuckers

[MaurqelHbkWatts]

this question, is for expert village, you dumb fucks, well what if, the "audio" hits that top of the angled glass, will it hit your feet, u dumb ugly shit?

[mr4y]

Eggcrate foam only absorbs high frequencies. So you might end with a dead room that sounds boomy. And I don't see any bass trapping on this room... Watch out people!

Expert village my ass...

[mozdedo]

Glass panes should be angled not only to minimize reflection, but also for overtones that can build up inside the air space between the glass, (if you are correctly installing two panes of glass, unlike this video) For proper dual pane installation, one glass should be slightly angle and the other pane can be straight.

[Kingpin0072001uk]

I was expecting another shitty video from ExpertVillage, but.......... this isn't bad! Nice to see a real professional giving advice for a change.

[smashervh]

all i would do is run a webca thru the walls....duh

[mrquan83]

Angles are good, but I can still hear a lot of reverberation just in this video. Need more dampening (bass traps?). I single pane of glass isn't going to insulate from sound, you'll need two glass panes at slightly different angles so you have dead air between. I'm no expert, but if someone is screaming into a mic you'll hear it through that window.

[roomsupervisor]

he said "egg crate" not egg carton..... look at the foam on the walls. Think "foam camping pads.

That being said.... thanx for the video, I'm sure people will find it useful

[Audiowithalex]

egg cartons are horribly flammable

[ilovefun321]

learn how to build a wall you idiot villager. Double pane glass at the very least. He has 2 layers of sound board, 4 layers of sheet rock, and then a giant gap which makes all that useless because of the Fuc*ing glass. You are an idiot, double up the glass so their is air stopping the sound. You just paid all that money for sound board and sheet-rock for nothing. You could have built 2 walls with 6 inchs of space between them and double glass both angled out and would have cost you same.

[da805boy]

How to soundproof: 1. Isolation 2. Mass 3. Dead Air space. buy books people! Youtube is not the key to learning

[TheTrackStars]

so u can see somebody loud and clear...

fuckin idiots

[pastryhat]

i built my walls thick... covered the ceiling with egg cartons and the walls with thick drapes... absorbs all replections. its pretty freaky. theres no reverb at all... so the sound is very raw and is easy to add effects to

[fezelington]

egg cartons would only treat a very very small amount of the mid-high frequency range.

[BenG549]

Egg cartons might not be ideal for absorption but as a method of diffusion they work pretty well.

[a7xbludd]

this guy sounds JUST like the 1 off of everybody loves raymond.

[pondmatter]

hey pops, stop talking to the window and look at the camera so we can believe this crap you are talkin about

[SuperGangsterish]

homosexual man

[nothinsnew]

lol Egg crate?? Tsk tsk.

[mickangelleprince]

you are so retared as an engeneer with your musician glass room

[mynmyself]

i dont understand this people from expertvillage...they remind me of a tv program on my country (spain) where in 35 mins they tell you how to build your own olympic swimming pool... it tends to be so funny and ridiculous that i am sure no one takes it as a serious thing... this expertvillage people pretend me to do a "professional" homestudio with 2 mins vids?...

[truth2748]

You are an idiot. But what do we expect from an español anyway.

[mynmyself]

hahaha como es que tienes un teclado español?

[musicianlocator]

Stright windows?? I though they had no sexuallity...

[melodiabouzouka]

STOP!!..he likes to just hear his voice.and listening to him its bouncing off my head

[mistaslurpy]

how do you see someone loud?

[abhijitgupta]

what a stupid video

[swivelingchairguy]

"its better to see someone in the other room - loud and clear.."

[dragonlee1bfed]

Hahahahah.........nicely pointed out

[WolYou]

I was using 10cm thick, massive gypsum bars (about 70kg/m2), placed on 4cm rubber at a distance of 10 to 15 cm (varying) away from the walls of the building. The entire construction had about 56 metric tons. The sound reduction was in an average of 83 dBA (100 dbA at 1kHz). Thats what I call soundproof. You couldn't even hear gunfire through this isolation.

[headstack]

When you construct walls, you should decouple them from the floor, ceiling, each other and from adjacent walls. The walls should be of double construction, and laid up of varying thicknesses and composition of substrate. Also, each wall should be laid up in a different sequence to make them as non sympathetic as possible.

Ultimately, you would use no like thickness of substrate between walls. In other words, the walls in one room would be one set of substrates, the other room would be another.

[GypsyMoon36]

The way the window is set up it makes sound transmission not go into the other room. To have a iso room you need to think of it as aroom built into a room. The angel of the walls is also great for the reduction of sound bleeding into the other room. Not that this guy is wrong, just not right in the way he explains stuff.

[headstack]

What will keep sound from traveling through the glass and into the other room, is a dead air space between two pieces of glass, not the angle. It actually appears there is only one sheet of glass there, so the isolation will not be so great, but it is better than nothing.

The angle of the walls has nothing to do with sound transmission to adjacent spaces, it is only the construction of the wall that effects that.

The angling of walls, is to stop standing waves, splatter and flutter.

[whitestaa]

I beleave the reason you angle the glass is to take some room accoustics away that you would get from sounds bouncing back off the glass, JUST like he explains, But yea A Space between 2 Pains is also Really good, Because it lets the sounds bounce more and every time a sound bounces off a surface it looses some of its energy.

[headstack]

The reason for using two panes of glass is to create a dead airspace between the glass. Air is not a good transmission medium, so the space in there has a very low STC. You also want to use two different thicknesses of glass, so the "walls" are non sympathetic. The reason to angle the glass, is to keep the reflections from bouncing straight back to the listener, i.e. The engineer, or the microphone. Glass is extremely reflective.

[WolYou]

Best is to evacuate the space between the two glasses as good as possible. The best choice would be to install a camera in both rooms and connect via monitors. Thats much cheaper than construction windows. By the way, a camera with a pan-/tilt-mount is far more flexible than a window :)

[headstack]

This way, a player can just stop playing so they can adjust the pan/tilt to their whim. This should work wonders for spontenaiety in a session.

There is actually a reason why we build these things a certain way, and this is why, when you walk into a multi million dollar studio, we all use basically the same solutions. ;-)

As an engineer and a session player, I like windows. p.s. You do not evacuate the space between the glass. That would be extremely costly... Like thousands!!

[brucekirk89]

I was hoping that window broke with the rock hitting it LOL

[GrimsumBeats]

and he looks like a ghost in his reflection milestones are kickin in my friend the gigs up go into the light lmao

[GrimsumBeats]

he looks like the uncle in porn a family business lmao

[roblegit1212]

I have been watching these videos and it's clear this man is off his rocker. Egg crates? Did you see that "baffle"? It was a portable changing area made of pine and paper.

Oh, and the ultimate.... There is no such thing as "soundPROOF".

[acoosticzoo]

+1 for the angled windows bit for your Recording Studio.

[DiMaiofun]

Amazing! This guy posts a video to help people do something and he gets comments like the ones here? Classy!

[dreds4000]

he soundd like that clear eyes guy..GOT RED EYES....USE CLEAR EYES...lol

[lazychump]

haha you sound like norm from new yankee workshop

[cwhitehe83]

I can't imagine, and highly doubt the efficiency of absorption using egg crates. Not the same material. He might get a bit of High Freq. absorption but it would be negligible. I also believe that the angled windows are more for minimizing sound transmission into the other room.

[robhingston]

thanks for your info

[genevaslab]

that room sounds like shit

[DalethMan]

"In fact, even my nose is angled to avoid noise reflexion" hahaaha

[jiminiflix]

For a asound engineer the sound is aweful on this video! you should be ashamed. lol

[headstack]

It is not great, but the room tone is pretty quiet, so all that egg crate foam is deadening hi freq reflections reasonably well. Also, you do know he is most likely wearing a lavalier mic (little mic on his shirt collar)?

This is for the sharing of information, not a major motion film. For all the crap you folks give this poor guy, I am surprised he gives you any sound.

I would like to see the haters make some videos, and see how they come out. It is hard to do really well.

[organeu]

The studio is rather nice and professional. But there are not JBL speakers? incredible, they are the best in tje world at JBL, they are the inventor of this famous cabinet caled monitor, and have 60 years of experience. The LSR serie is state of the art with for exemple LSR 28P or 6328 THX or LSR6332 or 4300 serie A REVOLUTION IN THE WORLD OF MONITORS like legendary and mythical 43 serie !

best regard

[MagicMongoloid]

What an odd thing to say.

[STUDIO2RECORDING]

Who wrote this.. Your not right in the head mate... mental..nuts..

[MidasHert3]

JBL sucks if you want a monitor go by Tannoy or for live theres nothing better than Martin .JBL stands for Junk BUt Loud

[intrepgun]

phil jones / AAD. look em up. great stuff.

[sticktodrums]

I know Phil Jones if its the same guy you're talking about.

[organeu]

hello

OH YES I VE WELL KNOWN MARTINS in the fabulous 70's, MARTIN AUDIO from London, they were real factory.. but now... so it's a good product better than our nexo and other L acoustics.

JBL at the end is still the world reference (like HAMMOND for organs), and listen to LSR SERIES (in all prestigious and legendary studios, the last one is CAPITOL RECORDS, not a little studio !)

best regard and have great hollydays.

[MarvelousProductions]

You can not SEE someone Loud and clear lol.

[DanielSelby1965]

Oh, who doesn't misspeak once in a while?? Take a chill pill people.

[KillyBesel]

@MarvelousProductions says you.

[pestronia]

good video but you should look up readyacousticsdotcom for correct absortion panels instead of eggcrate. what insulation do you like to use? i'm a builder in NYC so just curious.