BringElyTheHorizon1 you are an idiot the only reason the horse acted the way it did is the fact that the horse was NOT properly trained and this guy has no idea what he is doing! You cant even begin to imagine the pain that he was causing for that horse! listen to what your horse is telling you people! If you are getting a bad response then you are doing it wrong!!!
the bad comments are just damn right rude, pretty much every competition horse starts off like this, and it's people like jazz who bring them on and get critzised for it?! people have different ways of doing it and obiously this way works for Cicero! you lot just dont understand do you? all the people who wrote the bad comments have OBVIOULSY never ever rode a horse like this before. well done jazz,
Whats with the rude coments? You guys obviously never ridden a hose that was this green. You all probably ride a pushbutton champion horse. This is EXACTLY what you have to do with crazy horses like cicero.
This is when Jazz first got him and its her trainer riding him because clearly he was being naughty. This riding obviously worked because you should see how he turned out to be with both Jazz and her trainer working on him... you would never of been able to do that.
And that was an extremely disrespectful comment anyway seeing as the horse has passed away.
This horse- Cicero is one of the most beautiful horses I have EVER seen, a true champion, before making nasty comment calling this animal abuse I think you should all watch Jazz's other video 'RIP CICERO JUMPING AT HOME' to show what a remarkable horse ciceo became, training a competition horse isn't an easy task and Jazz & her instructor deserve a lot of credit! this is just one another one of those days in the life of being a top showjumper! REST IN PEACE CICERO <3
hi might be good but should still have a hat on even the best people come off an if your on a higly strung horse you should at least protect yourself, u did a good job controlling it there hard work when they try it on lol
I have no life and i whant to prove everyone what a great and oh superior rider i am by saying "oh animal abuse!" and criticizing the rider ........ jesuz peopleee get a life and stop being such a bunch of little snobs.
nice horse he seems like a handfull oh and RIP D:
btw i give thumbs down to all little know it alls who bother to give unwanted advice >:D
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Trainer is sawing the mouth of him. Can u not see his head going from side to side even on the straight. Just because he isn't 'a push button' horse doesn't mean you use your hands so harshly.
why all the bad comments? the trainer is training the horse properly! it was clearly misbehaving and being disrespectfull to the rider!! i presume none of you's have had a proper instructer on a compitition horse that isnt a pushbutton? what you seen in tat vid is how all your champions get taught at times, when you dont listen in class do you not get a bit of punishent and amde to work extra?
mmm, no disrespect to the rider, but he held on to his mouth, i mean i cant say i never knew the horse but i was alway taught to give the horse its head the reel him back in .. so its just personal pref, but i mean it looks like the horse improved heaps from the last vid i saw
Nice, nice horse and looks like an very experienced rider. But, he was infront of the movement, folded too early and too much. The horse then jumped a bit bigger then expected and he did become unseated on landing. We all get it wrong from time to time but this horse couldn't tolerate at this stage. This looks like a talened horse and I hope your trainer recommended that the horse needed to take a few steps back whatever the circumstances.
I dont normally get annoyed with people critting but really ? Why say anything, im sure he knows his errors and you spraffing on this isnt achieving anything. Had you seen the later videos, because I think that prooves they did the right thing ;)
Even if a hose is started training there are nothing wrong in taking a step back.Every one can start to fast, but when they realises thath it was to soon then go back.And a trainer should be able to say that.He should be a good example,many of those who ride for trainer do so to learn,and if a person chooses to be a trainer he has a responsibility to take care of both horses and riders that he trains.
And I cant see why this particular video is respecktfull to the horse?I think it's the other way around.Maybe i am rude, but this kind of riding(the trainer, not jazz) s disgusting!
OR he could have waited until the horse actualy were ready, psycologicly:) A horse can be trained with hars treatment, that doesn't mean it is the best for the horse. Other methods MIGHT take longer(not always), but if the horse aint worth our time we sure ain't worth our horses!
Sorry, SuperVilja, but have you nothing better to do than leave 15 comments on this video bashing Kevin? He's a good trainer, there are many incredible horses to show for that.
You are not superior to anyone. Please, quit wasting your time trying to fight on youtube and spend it finding a real hobby.
What's this guy doing? No wonder the horse is a bitt 'nutty'. When he is riding around look how hard he is holding the horse. The horse is running around whit his nose in his chest, and the rider is tense. Mayby not scared, but he is tense and trying to force the horse to be calm. That just not how things work. All he is saying to the horse is that this is something to NOT be relaxed around!
Then maybe she should start respecting the horse her self? Not publish a video of the horse being ridden badly and call the horse nutty? It's bad respect to publish this video at all. Every one can do mistakes, but this i would have forgotten, nott shared with the world. That is not respect.
Still disrespect of the horse. The other videos are great, why ruin that picture? And i'm not critising this horse, or the owner, but the guy on top:) And that people think this is funny or beutifull, what is wrong? You dont need a genius to see that the horse is distressed on this video, why post that? And why is that funny? Im sure this was a beautifull, lovely horse, butt why remember this moment? Look at the horse, and look at the guy on top. It's a horse in distresse.
So if he was 4-5? Whats that got to to with how the rider rides? It's got nothing to do with me, but if someone publishes a video like this they should expect negative coments. Only title suitable for this video is: How not to ride a horse. It's a sad situasion, but i react to se horses like this. And since hi's dead, pay the horse some respect!
Thats the thing with horses, you can make them do alot of thing. People hitting, kicking and so on, but they can still come a long way with the horse(i'm not saying she is, just an example). And he is in distress before he runs off. I'm not saying anything about the owner. She is great on these other videos, and so is the horse. Im talking about her trainer or whoever this guy is.
Actually the instructor gave him his head before they jumped the jump, and the only time he pulled was when cicero went too forward. You should pay more attention everyone before you critisize.
it doesnt matter how much of a good rider you are a horse is a wild animal and through domestication we have made it what it is today. it still has its flight or fright sence init. oh well cant wait to see the video of him fallin off and his head all over the joint! one less to feed! Other then that its a shame the horse got put done, was talented but everything happens for a reason! peace out! oh i get off on comments from jazzs lil fans, so cant wait to see them Pussyholes!
right, who the fuck do you think you are? you are the most inconsiderate cunt i have ever seen.. well basically. how would you feel if someone like VERY close to you died? i'd just loveee to see you ridee cockheadd. MUCH LOVE xx
He is a fucking knob expecting a horse to jump like that if you want it to slow down then put some placing poles or a grid up, theres always a sensible alternative not a stupid one! The reason why he isnt wearing a hat is cos he blates thinks his way 'to cool for school' pretty much! you need to tell him his not proving anything by not wearing a hat, only his stupidy!
Oh and before you 'fans' type back and say 'u have never ridden C' or whatever their stupid jazz neighbour hoodwatch comments are. its not the fact if you have ridden the horse before..any one with slight knowledge or care can notice that he doesnt need that much contact. Also you are not meant to do sitting trot when jumping, has he even got his stage 2 as i had to cover this in mine!
WHAT THE FUCK BASICALLY! Who the fuck is the silly bitch that said 'horses can see better when their head is down'. yeh can see better between their two back legs u fucking twat! Who the fuck is your instructor Jazz.. he needs shooting! i hope you dont pay for him! Poor horse at the end of the day, its back muscles must have been fucked. its not bolting through being 'nutty' its bolting to get away from the restriction of the riders horse.
nice to no that everyone is so clued up about the horse bein sawed in the mouth and over bent. you fail to notice guys it doesnt even look sound to begin with!!! coincidence me thinks???
This lovely horse was put to sleep following last November at the age of five and a half following a broken leg sustained in the pasture. Is that the saddest thing in the world or what? ='(
youngsters that are playing up often need to be worked really hardly over their back, in this case his head was overbent but because the rider had plenty of impulsion the horse could could with that if you get me?
i've only watched a couple videos of the horse but from what i have seen the owner of this horse is a very good rider she got off the horse at the start of the video (because he was acting like this??) the trainer is disciplining the horse for misbehaving. ppl who post mean comments on how the horse should be trained to use legs, watch the other videos! it is! this was a horse simply misbehaving if you don't make the punishment harsh enough for them to remember then theyll never learn whats bad
How about horsemanship and nice methods? It's no need to be hard on the horse when there are nicer methods that works the same, maybe even better! Horses are our friends, they carry oss around, and they deserve to be treated with love and respect. This was a young horse, and thats even worse. Other than that I agree. Nice horse and nice rider on these other videos. Sad situasjon:(
seriously none of you lot know what ur talking about , kevin is an amazing rider and look what he made jazz and cicero into ? you cant critise him AT ALL.
Why is that? You can make a horse do alot of things with force and harsh treatment. I'm not saying he usually do, but in this video he does. I, and many other have ridden for a trainer like this in my area, he is not at all nice to the horses, butt still he is starting 1.30- 1.40 at shows with good results. This is still not a good trainer. A good trainer takes his time, use gentle methods and wait to the horse is ready, both psykologically and physiologically.
tbh, i think that the instructor would know what he is doing and no one is in a position to comment on him. jazz did a great job with cicero, don't listen to them. they're just jealous of what you had with him ;) RIP. x
Ugh it looked like the horse just took the opportunity where the guy wasn't hanging on his face to try and get himself some freedom. I can understand if he was just trying to keep the horse from running away but you can be MUCH softer when doing that, it's called riding leg to hand...
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I could tell that horse was just about ready to bust out crazy. Couldn't the rider tell that their horse was going to act up? I think it was rather obvious.
'AboutThyme2' i think you should re-watch her videos because to be honest, i think shes a fucking amazing rider and i buzz to be like her, look at what has compered to you, would you get a horse like that from been lazy. i have to do that with my pony. it don't mena you lean forward to much yeah tard, you have to jump different ways on different horses. maybe you don't have to!
You rode him much better, he was janking in at his mouth, not the way to go, you need to b kind to their mouths, and no wonder c freaked afterwards he landed on him lik a sack on potatoes.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but whoever the rider is, they're yanking and pulling back on the reins way too much and they need to do alot more flatwork and slowing down before having the horse jump. The horse needs to be calm and collected to properly take a jump. That horse needs to be calm before being jumped.
i completely agree, polework is the way to go with that horse! a lot of trotting and cantering poles will do it the world of good, my pony can get very hyper when jumping so i ALWAYS start with some trotting poles first!
That horse^^ was 4 there and was just being a 4yo! Every youngster I have brought on does these things now and then you just need to crack at thebeginning which is what this rider is doing and if have seen jazz recently that horse was amazing!
lol no, my pony is 9, but he only starting jumping 8 months ago, so do i get included into your little club? it doesn't matter what AGE the horse is, i've known plenty of horses well into their teens that still act like youngsters. it's the ability and experience that counts, not the age.
Well in this horse's case its his age thats the 'problem' and I know that horses ANY age can be like that!:)
And as you said: 'it's the ability and experience that counts' well, exactly he doesn't have any experience and all the ability he is just being naughty!
If you are going to blame the age i say the horse aren't ready! And since the age is in concideration, why is it okay to treat a young horse like this?
that man is a tarined teacher .. you should see what cicero became, a champion horse, jazz was the luckiest girl to have him she really was .. you taught him well sweetheart, sorry it had to ned like that tho :( .. all great things come to an end sometime but this time was too early .. love you jazz, R.I.P Cicero ♥
if u know what ur doing this a v good techneque and ovisly jazz knew what she was doing as this horse is amazing now and if it taught him to stop all the time he wouldnt be where he is now sooo if u dont know about the horse plese keep bad comments to urself as tbh i think jazz will just laff at them coz she os better thn tht to let them get her down
hatling a horse infront of a fence teaches them to expect to slow down infront of a fence so they can get their back end under them from rushing its works really well and once you've got the line you ride from the bottom of the fence and let the horse mess it up if it does i think the instructor rode him very well and to be able to sit there like nothing is happening is very good :) but i do think C prefers Jazz's style of riding :) hes fab now though but as a youngster he has those days :)
i find iut highly amusing people have the cheeck to critise this video when they dont even look at my recent videos to what this horse has become ! haha !
its exactly what i get on my videos when we were breaking george like... hes goin way to fast.. its like id like to see you on him for 1 minuite. now that would be a you've been framed video :P
ok well i would take off too if someone locked their hands on my mouth! the whole time even when ur trying to get him round in the begging it is done only wiht hand and he had every rite to bolt wiht u! u didnt release at all over the jump and that is partly the reason that he tried so hard to get away from it! gentle hands will result in a gentle horse...
errrm its a tequnique used by loads of ppl schooling there horses to Jump...only experianced riders are able to manage this...and yea liek jazz said if you have looked at her recent videos and videos from the start you wuid realise how amazing this horse is and tht what they are doing here has worked!!
first off really ur just gonna wind the horse up by stopping it right by the jump ur also gonna just teach it 2 refuse all the time after a while, personly i think the rider deserved that tbh, and pulling back on the mouth when fallin only makes the horse shake its head so its more likley for u 2 fall off !
Actually, making my mare, when I first got her, stop in front of fence resulted in her not running through my hands. She never refused from it... Although, I don't understand exactly why they were doing that with this horse?
that is exactly what my horse does when i jump her! she has never jumped before in her life and she is 8 years old. Do you have any ideas of what i should do? I make sure the jumps are small crossrails with a ground rail and i give her a nice big release!
you should try her over grids, like bounces and stuff, when she gets more accustomed to jumping and then she won't run off... but you could do it w/poles to start :D hope I helped I just noticed that you posted this coment a while ago... whoops XD
Oh, I know that's terrible... but I was just trying to give advice to dahlly12. I thought since no one else answered, I might as well. It really is terrible what happened to Cicero :'-(
KeriDusty- if you read my coments above... you can see that I know that and I was giving advice to dahlly12. And i respect Cicero and Jazz VERY much. They were both amazingly talented and touched many hearts.
that was pretty much obvious that, that was going to happen.. no effence to the rider im not trying to start something.. u can school ur horse how u like.. but he looked over bent but that was just me??.. and halting him infront of the jump and expecting him not to wanna go over wen he looks a lil full of energy .. brilliant .. but well sat.. :)
No I agree with Brandy. If the horse was young he should not have forced it to be so on the bit when jumping... the horse needs to be able to flow and move his head. Also, not releasing and thwumping on the horse's back isn't going helping the horse enjoy jumping... next time he's going towards the jump with his head all tucked like that he's going to remember how it felt.
@Equuestriaan I think that's the point Equuestriaan, so he WON'T bolt, though I do think the trainer was a tad too tight and if he is having problems going over those fences he should be worked going over lower fences. In Dressage, not that this may apply I don't know much about jumping, I just know how it should look :D, but in Dressage we go back to basics when all else fails, so maybe going over smaller jumps would have helped? If not, well he's good now, right? ^^
BringElyTheHorizon1 you are an idiot the only reason the horse acted the way it did is the fact that the horse was NOT properly trained and this guy has no idea what he is doing! You cant even begin to imagine the pain that he was causing for that horse! listen to what your horse is telling you people! If you are getting a bad response then you are doing it wrong!!!
Historybuff960 3 weeks ago in playlist Bad Horsemanship
wow. he was seriously the most amazingly gorgeous and talented horse I've ever seen!
horsecrazed75 8 months ago
glad hes not flippin gout like in the other video. lol. he was awesoem!
MajiksGurl224 1 year ago
was it put down !?
pinkcb71997 1 year ago
helmet wouldnt go astray safety first
mrblazemb 1 year ago
how did he pass away?? jw..
MegaJankowski 1 year ago
Yeaah I fuck me. Can you see it? :D
NieOhneDich 1 year ago
the bad comments are just damn right rude, pretty much every competition horse starts off like this, and it's people like jazz who bring them on and get critzised for it?! people have different ways of doing it and obiously this way works for Cicero! you lot just dont understand do you? all the people who wrote the bad comments have OBVIOULSY never ever rode a horse like this before. well done jazz,
rip Cicero.:( <3
HoneyAndHannah 1 year ago 4
Whats with the rude coments? You guys obviously never ridden a hose that was this green. You all probably ride a pushbutton champion horse. This is EXACTLY what you have to do with crazy horses like cicero.
R.I.P. Cicero!
XOXOamandaaa 1 year ago 5
Wenn mans nicht kann, sollte man es lassen...
ich0217 1 year ago
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very very bad riding. kill the rider! -.-
NieOhneDich 1 year ago
@NieOhneDich
This is when Jazz first got him and its her trainer riding him because clearly he was being naughty. This riding obviously worked because you should see how he turned out to be with both Jazz and her trainer working on him... you would never of been able to do that.
And that was an extremely disrespectful comment anyway seeing as the horse has passed away.
Zy135 1 year ago 2
@NieOhneDich fuck you, u know nothing!
beauty101115 1 year ago
This horse- Cicero is one of the most beautiful horses I have EVER seen, a true champion, before making nasty comment calling this animal abuse I think you should all watch Jazz's other video 'RIP CICERO JUMPING AT HOME' to show what a remarkable horse ciceo became, training a competition horse isn't an easy task and Jazz & her instructor deserve a lot of credit! this is just one another one of those days in the life of being a top showjumper! REST IN PEACE CICERO <3
lucycharlottex3 1 year ago 36
hi might be good but should still have a hat on even the best people come off an if your on a higly strung horse you should at least protect yourself, u did a good job controlling it there hard work when they try it on lol
SexySwee84 1 year ago
@SexySwee84 it's his choice whether he wears a hat or not :/ i dont see why people make so much fuss when people dont wear hats!
equestrianemma 1 year ago
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wow that guy has no idea what he is doing
livelaughride94 1 year ago
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like you can ride horses better -_-'
Laneismynickname 1 year ago
@livelaughride94 he obviously does, seeing as he stopped him?^o)
HoneyAndHannah 1 year ago
@livelaughride94 hhahahahah fuck you, u dont know nothing either lol
beauty101115 1 year ago
r.i.p i k now sadley you cant ride him or her again but you really should wear a hat you know
r.i.p x
nixlovesking 1 year ago
the poor horse died yet people are STILL criticising!!!
get a life!
TheAngelAspro 1 year ago 4
we have a horse like him at my stables called flake, hes beautiful like yours but he is sooo playfull and full of energy. :D
ellzz247 1 year ago
did you ever end up fixing his issue? hes such a good looking horse
0purple0oranges0 1 year ago
I have no life and i whant to prove everyone what a great and oh superior rider i am by saying "oh animal abuse!" and criticizing the rider ........ jesuz peopleee get a life and stop being such a bunch of little snobs.
nice horse he seems like a handfull oh and RIP D:
btw i give thumbs down to all little know it alls who bother to give unwanted advice >:D
nice vid x3
kikingfriesian 2 years ago 6
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Trainer is sawing the mouth of him. Can u not see his head going from side to side even on the straight. Just because he isn't 'a push button' horse doesn't mean you use your hands so harshly.
itsallham08 2 years ago
Just watched your other video there and he was a fabulous jumper and you were great on him. sorry to hear he's passed. Major talent
itsallham08 2 years ago
@itsallham08 no he is flexing... look at the contact with the outside rein
equestrianemma 1 year ago
jesus!
Irishgal333 2 years ago
what happend to him sorry :( he looks really nice
horseangel1000 2 years ago
why all the bad comments? the trainer is training the horse properly! it was clearly misbehaving and being disrespectfull to the rider!! i presume none of you's have had a proper instructer on a compitition horse that isnt a pushbutton? what you seen in tat vid is how all your champions get taught at times, when you dont listen in class do you not get a bit of punishent and amde to work extra?
R.I.P Cicero </3
BringElyTheHorizon1 2 years ago 23
mmm, no disrespect to the rider, but he held on to his mouth, i mean i cant say i never knew the horse but i was alway taught to give the horse its head the reel him back in .. so its just personal pref, but i mean it looks like the horse improved heaps from the last vid i saw
ohmiengott 2 years ago
poor horse how would you react to getting your back teeth pulled out!!!
dutch1horse 2 years ago
Nice, nice horse and looks like an very experienced rider. But, he was infront of the movement, folded too early and too much. The horse then jumped a bit bigger then expected and he did become unseated on landing. We all get it wrong from time to time but this horse couldn't tolerate at this stage. This looks like a talened horse and I hope your trainer recommended that the horse needed to take a few steps back whatever the circumstances.
jjclimb69 2 years ago
sorry but omg. like seriously.
I dont normally get annoyed with people critting but really ? Why say anything, im sure he knows his errors and you spraffing on this isnt achieving anything. Had you seen the later videos, because I think that prooves they did the right thing ;)
xxxbeccaxrxxx 2 years ago
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OMG!!
That horse has so mutch pain.
Don't juse a bit, tracks and a whip.
This is animal abuse!
ClaudiaLovesStefanie 2 years ago
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poor horse :( You just tear in his mouth. -.-
Nickyy011 2 years ago
gotta love ciero
xxx
SophielovesTreadley 2 years ago
Even if a hose is started training there are nothing wrong in taking a step back.Every one can start to fast, but when they realises thath it was to soon then go back.And a trainer should be able to say that.He should be a good example,many of those who ride for trainer do so to learn,and if a person chooses to be a trainer he has a responsibility to take care of both horses and riders that he trains.
SuperVilja 2 years ago
And I cant see why this particular video is respecktfull to the horse?I think it's the other way around.Maybe i am rude, but this kind of riding(the trainer, not jazz) s disgusting!
SuperVilja 2 years ago
OR he could have waited until the horse actualy were ready, psycologicly:) A horse can be trained with hars treatment, that doesn't mean it is the best for the horse. Other methods MIGHT take longer(not always), but if the horse aint worth our time we sure ain't worth our horses!
SuperVilja 2 years ago
Just put him in a crowd instead of your whole mouth broke his draws :S
GharfieldIlse 2 years ago
Sorry, SuperVilja, but have you nothing better to do than leave 15 comments on this video bashing Kevin? He's a good trainer, there are many incredible horses to show for that.
You are not superior to anyone. Please, quit wasting your time trying to fight on youtube and spend it finding a real hobby.
iagobuppcnkid 2 years ago
R.i.p 1 year today <3
Hope heaven is taking good care of you <3
CheyZenaxx 2 years ago
What's this guy doing? No wonder the horse is a bitt 'nutty'. When he is riding around look how hard he is holding the horse. The horse is running around whit his nose in his chest, and the rider is tense. Mayby not scared, but he is tense and trying to force the horse to be calm. That just not how things work. All he is saying to the horse is that this is something to NOT be relaxed around!
SuperVilja 2 years ago
Leave jazz alone! she loved this horse and now hes gone. HAVE SOME RESPECT.
5147samantha 2 years ago
Then maybe she should start respecting the horse her self? Not publish a video of the horse being ridden badly and call the horse nutty? It's bad respect to publish this video at all. Every one can do mistakes, but this i would have forgotten, nott shared with the world. That is not respect.
SuperVilja 2 years ago
No your wrong all these cicero videos were all up anyway, but when he died, she put 'rip' infront of the title.
You are more than pathetic commenting and critising about this lovely horsse. you must be jeleuos, or simply sick minded.
5147samantha 2 years ago
Still disrespect of the horse. The other videos are great, why ruin that picture? And i'm not critising this horse, or the owner, but the guy on top:) And that people think this is funny or beutifull, what is wrong? You dont need a genius to see that the horse is distressed on this video, why post that? And why is that funny? Im sure this was a beautifull, lovely horse, butt why remember this moment? Look at the horse, and look at the guy on top. It's a horse in distresse.
SuperVilja 2 years ago
hors ein distresss? He was only 4-5 here!
Just stop this, it was a year y.d that C was put to sleep, i think jazz has enough on her mind without you saying shit!
it was her horse so she can post what she wants, its nothing to do with you at all.
5147samantha 2 years ago
So if he was 4-5? Whats that got to to with how the rider rides? It's got nothing to do with me, but if someone publishes a video like this they should expect negative coments. Only title suitable for this video is: How not to ride a horse. It's a sad situasion, but i react to se horses like this. And since hi's dead, pay the horse some respect!
SuperVilja 2 years ago
if the riding was that bad, do you think C would have got so good, he only got spooked and ran off..
Grow up, C loved jazz.
5147samantha 2 years ago
Thats the thing with horses, you can make them do alot of thing. People hitting, kicking and so on, but they can still come a long way with the horse(i'm not saying she is, just an example). And he is in distress before he runs off. I'm not saying anything about the owner. She is great on these other videos, and so is the horse. Im talking about her trainer or whoever this guy is.
SuperVilja 2 years ago
lol the people in the backround just laugh! xD
990sydney 2 years ago
he was simply stunning. x
BrokenxStrings 2 years ago
you and him touched so many hearts.. i dont even know cicero yet i miss him.. :( (sorry if that sounds disturbing) .. lol :D
Agilitypoodle385 2 years ago
Actually the instructor gave him his head before they jumped the jump, and the only time he pulled was when cicero went too forward. You should pay more attention everyone before you critisize.
chachahorse 2 years ago
Hahah, I used to ride a horse just like that!
I had to make him walk the jumps,
pretty scary sometimes :/
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if u would have jumped properly and gave with your hands then u wouldnt have yanked his mouth and he wouldnt have pissed off with u.
robrob125 2 years ago
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he died!! have some respect please!!
KeriDusty 2 years ago
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it doesnt matter how much of a good rider you are a horse is a wild animal and through domestication we have made it what it is today. it still has its flight or fright sence init. oh well cant wait to see the video of him fallin off and his head all over the joint! one less to feed! Other then that its a shame the horse got put done, was talented but everything happens for a reason! peace out! oh i get off on comments from jazzs lil fans, so cant wait to see them Pussyholes!
JazzMacSawMyMouth 2 years ago
right, who the fuck do you think you are? you are the most inconsiderate cunt i have ever seen.. well basically. how would you feel if someone like VERY close to you died? i'd just loveee to see you ridee cockheadd. MUCH LOVE xx
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He is a fucking knob expecting a horse to jump like that if you want it to slow down then put some placing poles or a grid up, theres always a sensible alternative not a stupid one! The reason why he isnt wearing a hat is cos he blates thinks his way 'to cool for school' pretty much! you need to tell him his not proving anything by not wearing a hat, only his stupidy!
JazzMacSawMyMouth 2 years ago
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Oh and before you 'fans' type back and say 'u have never ridden C' or whatever their stupid jazz neighbour hoodwatch comments are. its not the fact if you have ridden the horse before..any one with slight knowledge or care can notice that he doesnt need that much contact. Also you are not meant to do sitting trot when jumping, has he even got his stage 2 as i had to cover this in mine!
JazzMacSawMyMouth 2 years ago
this was right at the very begining with C,
C has sadly died, have some consideration.
Watch her recent videos maybe?
Rest In Peace C
SoIamGothica 2 years ago
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WHAT THE FUCK BASICALLY! Who the fuck is the silly bitch that said 'horses can see better when their head is down'. yeh can see better between their two back legs u fucking twat! Who the fuck is your instructor Jazz.. he needs shooting! i hope you dont pay for him! Poor horse at the end of the day, its back muscles must have been fucked. its not bolting through being 'nutty' its bolting to get away from the restriction of the riders horse.
JazzMacSawMyMouth 2 years ago
u rode him sooo much better!! xx rip
ponyzilvthm 2 years ago
Cicero was sure spunky!
IceHeart09 2 years ago
nice to no that everyone is so clued up about the horse bein sawed in the mouth and over bent. you fail to notice guys it doesnt even look sound to begin with!!! coincidence me thinks???
butitstrue 2 years ago
or im sorry he was gawge xxxxx RIP Cicero :'[
HunniiBaybiie123 2 years ago
amazing rider
CeleryNinjaFarm 2 years ago
hes gorgeous!
im so sorry :(
when did he die?
jbchase13 2 years ago
jbchase13 --
This lovely horse was put to sleep following last November at the age of five and a half following a broken leg sustained in the pasture. Is that the saddest thing in the world or what? ='(
TBsPlease 2 years ago
that is so sad :(
RIP :'(
jbchase13 2 years ago
your instructor has guts..
are you using the same instructor for your work with Casper and Tevita?
blueyescry 2 years ago
hahaha what a nutter lol , rip? what happend to him?
madisonrose14 2 years ago
He broke his leg in a field :(
heidialice 2 years ago
youngsters that are playing up often need to be worked really hardly over their back, in this case his head was overbent but because the rider had plenty of impulsion the horse could could with that if you get me?
ahh93 2 years ago
awsome rider
ilovepreciousjim 2 years ago
dude he has the prettiest haed set
ilovepreciousjim 2 years ago
Why is he say "good girl" I thought Cicero was a boy?
Fahy17 2 years ago
hes game :) on with no helmet,
sorry he died :(
amieHERSELF 2 years ago
sorry about ur loss thats horrible. R.I.P. Cicero!!!!!!
1999Cameron4me 2 years ago
i've only watched a couple videos of the horse but from what i have seen the owner of this horse is a very good rider she got off the horse at the start of the video (because he was acting like this??) the trainer is disciplining the horse for misbehaving. ppl who post mean comments on how the horse should be trained to use legs, watch the other videos! it is! this was a horse simply misbehaving if you don't make the punishment harsh enough for them to remember then theyll never learn whats bad
iagobuppcnkid 2 years ago 3
I totally agree
ilovepreciousjim 2 years ago
How about horsemanship and nice methods? It's no need to be hard on the horse when there are nicer methods that works the same, maybe even better! Horses are our friends, they carry oss around, and they deserve to be treated with love and respect. This was a young horse, and thats even worse. Other than that I agree. Nice horse and nice rider on these other videos. Sad situasjon:(
SuperVilja 2 years ago
OMG HE DIED!!!?????????
animallover151999 2 years ago
yes, he broke his leg in the field =[
Helen2892 2 years ago
And he still managed to change leg!!
sjj9 2 years ago
christ half of you dont know what the hell your talking about. most of you need to shut upp!!
sorry for your loss
love emz x
miss3mmajan3 3 years ago 2
right before the jump hive it a little squeex=zw ==e with ur heels
boomer847 3 years ago
seriously none of you lot know what ur talking about , kevin is an amazing rider and look what he made jazz and cicero into ? you cant critise him AT ALL.
KeriDusty 3 years ago 2
Why is that? You can make a horse do alot of things with force and harsh treatment. I'm not saying he usually do, but in this video he does. I, and many other have ridden for a trainer like this in my area, he is not at all nice to the horses, butt still he is starting 1.30- 1.40 at shows with good results. This is still not a good trainer. A good trainer takes his time, use gentle methods and wait to the horse is ready, both psykologically and physiologically.
SuperVilja 2 years ago
you have really hard hands :/ did he really die??? ive watched these videos in the past, thats really sad
courtnkate 3 years ago
tbh, i think that the instructor would know what he is doing and no one is in a position to comment on him. jazz did a great job with cicero, don't listen to them. they're just jealous of what you had with him ;) RIP. x
itsGracieetime 3 years ago
You have to admit you secretly feel good when your horse plays up for other people but not for you :)
chachahorse 3 years ago 3
Ugh it looked like the horse just took the opportunity where the guy wasn't hanging on his face to try and get himself some freedom. I can understand if he was just trying to keep the horse from running away but you can be MUCH softer when doing that, it's called riding leg to hand...
l3ahzukahandl3oo 3 years ago
This rider really needs to soften their hands that poor horse was like "ow!"
HorseLuvr0 3 years ago
Wow poor horse! loosen ur hands and give it a hair bit more rein to him, and more seed
boomer847 3 years ago
so, you give them rein when they are galloping of... thats clever :L
brookiinaa 3 years ago
Id just like to say.. that comment was for some one down there.. who was annoying me :P.. not for jazz :)
brookiinaa 3 years ago
a bit more enegry gon into the 1st jump wouldnt kill you would it????and keep him facing the jump hes looking to the side alot
xxangeldervlolxx 3 years ago
your carrying a very tight rein and your hands are on his withers left your hands and let him go a bit he wont act up as much then
xxangeldervlolxx 3 years ago
God, that rider has incredibly hard hands when he rides.... I wouldn't want to be ridden by him if I were a horse...
sunsetfarm60 3 years ago
he was going quite lovely up until then :D
kellyissex 3 years ago
ouch!! did the horse smack his head!? that hurtsss!!
barrelgirl4life 3 years ago 2
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man. nice horse but it needs help.
magicenchantment 3 years ago
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JaydBsja 3 years ago
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yeah so do you.
JaydBsja 3 years ago
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I could tell that horse was just about ready to bust out crazy. Couldn't the rider tell that their horse was going to act up? I think it was rather obvious.
katie2993 3 years ago
is he a stud? the same crazy one that was freaking out..lol.. he's beautiful
MajiksGurl224 3 years ago
'AboutThyme2' i think you should re-watch her videos because to be honest, i think shes a fucking amazing rider and i buzz to be like her, look at what has compered to you, would you get a horse like that from been lazy. i have to do that with my pony. it don't mena you lean forward to much yeah tard, you have to jump different ways on different horses. maybe you don't have to!
oxtobiibabes 3 years ago
I wasn't on about jazz if thats what u r saying?:S
AboutThyme2 3 years ago
Wow Jazz...just came across this vid! Cicero was so beautiful and would have shone anywhere!
Remembering you always Cicero.xxx
wishiwasfree 3 years ago
R.I.P. C you always were the best!xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
EllieMcK95 3 years ago
everyone stop being soo bitch nd horrible. thts the truble with this site >:(. and well said jazz, have sum consideration. rip cicero xxx
ShowjumperOx 3 years ago
i dont need your comments watch the recentest video i had of him i cant do anything now as he is dead have some fucking consideration :(
jazzmac 3 years ago
thats not funny.
thats abuse.
chloescarlett 3 years ago
its not abuse, jazz and her horse had a great bond, and she would never have let anyone hurt Cicero. RIP cicero, you will be remembered. ♥♥♥
123massey123 3 years ago
She just did!!!
SuperVilja 2 years ago
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*headdesk*
Nothing against the UK, but their riding seems to be much less quality then in Canada and the US
xoxo
KarlyyMiracle 3 years ago
nuh uh!
That is very disrespectful and if anything your worse you are very lazy riders and lean forward too much!
:)
AboutThyme2 3 years ago
YEAH so lazy
that we actually have the core strength to ride like that :)
KarlyyMiracle 3 years ago
Jazz isn't american!lol
She is ENGLISH!
AboutThyme2 3 years ago
I don't understand why you put that because you are not riding?!?
it is jazz's instructor who is english i am sure!
AboutThyme2 3 years ago
I think you lot are getting confused cos I am saying American and Canadian riders are blah blah blah!
Not JAZZ!
AboutThyme2 3 years ago
Not really
heidialice 3 years ago
You rode him much better, he was janking in at his mouth, not the way to go, you need to b kind to their mouths, and no wonder c freaked afterwards he landed on him lik a sack on potatoes.
Rip c xx
UNiiQU3GiiRL 3 years ago
Agree!!
SuperVilja 2 years ago
Please don't take this the wrong way, but whoever the rider is, they're yanking and pulling back on the reins way too much and they need to do alot more flatwork and slowing down before having the horse jump. The horse needs to be calm and collected to properly take a jump. That horse needs to be calm before being jumped.
Englishjumper111 3 years ago
i completely agree, polework is the way to go with that horse! a lot of trotting and cantering poles will do it the world of good, my pony can get very hyper when jumping so i ALWAYS start with some trotting poles first!
fkingxmelxvengeance 3 years ago
yes the thing is; is your pony 4??
That horse^^ was 4 there and was just being a 4yo! Every youngster I have brought on does these things now and then you just need to crack at thebeginning which is what this rider is doing and if have seen jazz recently that horse was amazing!
RIP Cxxxx
AboutThyme2 3 years ago
lol no, my pony is 9, but he only starting jumping 8 months ago, so do i get included into your little club? it doesn't matter what AGE the horse is, i've known plenty of horses well into their teens that still act like youngsters. it's the ability and experience that counts, not the age.
fkingxmelxvengeance 3 years ago
Well in this horse's case its his age thats the 'problem' and I know that horses ANY age can be like that!:)
And as you said: 'it's the ability and experience that counts' well, exactly he doesn't have any experience and all the ability he is just being naughty!
AboutThyme2 3 years ago
If you are going to blame the age i say the horse aren't ready! And since the age is in concideration, why is it okay to treat a young horse like this?
SuperVilja 2 years ago
treat him like what?!
5147samantha 2 years ago
Like harsh, overbent, locked hands u name it. Just watch the video. Again the trainer, not jazz.
SuperVilja 2 years ago
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you need to release forward, not down. and i have looked @ ur recent vids
Skittlebug55 3 years ago
that man is a tarined teacher .. you should see what cicero became, a champion horse, jazz was the luckiest girl to have him she really was .. you taught him well sweetheart, sorry it had to ned like that tho :( .. all great things come to an end sometime but this time was too early .. love you jazz, R.I.P Cicero ♥
HuckleberryHannah 3 years ago
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Listen2thethundeRR 3 years ago
if u know what ur doing this a v good techneque and ovisly jazz knew what she was doing as this horse is amazing now and if it taught him to stop all the time he wouldnt be where he is now sooo if u dont know about the horse plese keep bad comments to urself as tbh i think jazz will just laff at them coz she os better thn tht to let them get her down
keep up thee good work jaz :-)
weesallybumxx 3 years ago
hatling a horse infront of a fence teaches them to expect to slow down infront of a fence so they can get their back end under them from rushing its works really well and once you've got the line you ride from the bottom of the fence and let the horse mess it up if it does i think the instructor rode him very well and to be able to sit there like nothing is happening is very good :) but i do think C prefers Jazz's style of riding :) hes fab now though but as a youngster he has those days :)
xXTorchXx 3 years ago
i find iut highly amusing people have the cheeck to critise this video when they dont even look at my recent videos to what this horse has become ! haha !
jazzmac 3 years ago
its exactly what i get on my videos when we were breaking george like... hes goin way to fast.. its like id like to see you on him for 1 minuite. now that would be a you've been framed video :P
brookiinaa 3 years ago
and maybe he would act up if you didnt tug at his mouth right away after the jump.. or before it for that matter.
Listen2thethundeRR 3 years ago
Maybe if it was her
heidialice 3 years ago
wow. lets stop the horse right in front of the jump so he learns how to refuse. good job,
Listen2thethundeRR 3 years ago
agree with horseluver33
who's the moron riding that horse?
should learn to relax first, might go better
papeeche 3 years ago
ok well i would take off too if someone locked their hands on my mouth! the whole time even when ur trying to get him round in the begging it is done only wiht hand and he had every rite to bolt wiht u! u didnt release at all over the jump and that is partly the reason that he tried so hard to get away from it! gentle hands will result in a gentle horse...
horseluver33 3 years ago
agree with horseluver33
who's the moron riding that horse?
should learn to relax first, might go better
papeeche 3 years ago
errrm its a tequnique used by loads of ppl schooling there horses to Jump...only experianced riders are able to manage this...and yea liek jazz said if you have looked at her recent videos and videos from the start you wuid realise how amazing this horse is and tht what they are doing here has worked!!
JodieBigSoftey 3 years ago 2
first off really ur just gonna wind the horse up by stopping it right by the jump ur also gonna just teach it 2 refuse all the time after a while, personly i think the rider deserved that tbh, and pulling back on the mouth when fallin only makes the horse shake its head so its more likley for u 2 fall off !
princess564101 3 years ago
Actually, making my mare, when I first got her, stop in front of fence resulted in her not running through my hands. She never refused from it... Although, I don't understand exactly why they were doing that with this horse?
boozkatiecakes 3 years ago
that is exactly what my horse does when i jump her! she has never jumped before in her life and she is 8 years old. Do you have any ideas of what i should do? I make sure the jumps are small crossrails with a ground rail and i give her a nice big release!
dahlly12 3 years ago
you should try her over grids, like bounces and stuff, when she gets more accustomed to jumping and then she won't run off... but you could do it w/poles to start :D hope I helped I just noticed that you posted this coment a while ago... whoops XD
horsecrazy27 2 years ago
Uh yeah....he died.........................
wishiwasfree 2 years ago
Oh, I know that's terrible... but I was just trying to give advice to dahlly12. I thought since no one else answered, I might as well. It really is terrible what happened to Cicero :'-(
horsecrazy27 2 years ago
Ah ok...sorry thought you were commenting to Jazz. You bless him,he touched many hearts.x
wishiwasfree 2 years ago
He and she both touched many hearts
horsecrazy27 2 years ago
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horsecrazy27 2 years ago
he died!! have some respect please!!
KeriDusty 2 years ago 2
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horsecrazy27 2 years ago
KeriDusty- if you read my coments above... you can see that I know that and I was giving advice to dahlly12. And i respect Cicero and Jazz VERY much. They were both amazingly talented and touched many hearts.
horsecrazy27 2 years ago
I think you need to release forward, not down, and look up. Not trying to be mean or start anything, just trying to help.
Skittlebug55 3 years ago
i think you need to wear a helmet...
ponylover333 3 years ago
my pals horse does dis just jump him then head him for the fence and run him into the fence
lynyehm 3 years ago
that was pretty much obvious that, that was going to happen.. no effence to the rider im not trying to start something.. u can school ur horse how u like.. but he looked over bent but that was just me??.. and halting him infront of the jump and expecting him not to wanna go over wen he looks a lil full of energy .. brilliant .. but well sat.. :)
BrandyLee007 3 years ago
i disagree, he was probably doing that because the horse rushes. because i do that tecneke and it works well.
helenhorse 3 years ago
No I agree with Brandy. If the horse was young he should not have forced it to be so on the bit when jumping... the horse needs to be able to flow and move his head. Also, not releasing and thwumping on the horse's back isn't going helping the horse enjoy jumping... next time he's going towards the jump with his head all tucked like that he's going to remember how it felt.
Equuestriaan 3 years ago 2
@Equuestriaan I think that's the point Equuestriaan, so he WON'T bolt, though I do think the trainer was a tad too tight and if he is having problems going over those fences he should be worked going over lower fences. In Dressage, not that this may apply I don't know much about jumping, I just know how it should look :D, but in Dressage we go back to basics when all else fails, so maybe going over smaller jumps would have helped? If not, well he's good now, right? ^^
DontenDressage 11 months ago