Dawkins here is the most respectful that I have ever seen him. One would think he was a liberal theist himself if it weren't for his radical hateful hokus pokus about people of faith.
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^ Because I know christians that use less flawed logic than any atheist I've ever heard, especially Dawkins.
There should be no reason to exclude science from proving that God does exist, and only use it to prove he doesn't.
If we applied that structure to everything, we would only know that the world isn't flat until we had repetitive first hand evidence from all 'corners' before people accepted that it's round (rather than making a hypothesis based on geometry and physics earlier on).
@chrismrulz scientists have tried to prove that Genesis is completely improbable, so yeah....God doesn't exist in the sense that he is the creator of all life. What the Bishop is arguing is that God is a beautiful spirit; an inner spiritual force by which one can draw morals from. But if you really do believe that someone conjured up the world in 7 days or that dinosaurs were here 3000 years ago, then you're welcome. I'm not obligated to educate you.
@chrismrulz why is the bible subject to human error when it is supposedly the word of God, the omnipotent being devoid of error? I think you just shot yourself in the foot there.
@987Mars I am replying to your straw man though, my initial argument was that using science or rational thinking to prove God, is deemed crazy by anyone in the field of science;
But going in with a presupposition that he doesn't exist to prove that is ok.
Dawkins can't handle the idea that there are smart christians out there that are using logic he can understand to explain the existence of god.. he insists it's only because of atheism's uprise that religious people are departing from their true belief.
I've always been like the bishop.. everything makes more sense using fuzzy logic and probability theory to support a rational premise that an omnipotent omniscient creator exists than doesn't.
I have an incredible amount of respect for the Bishop. My only concern is that all his "liberal" ideologies come from interpretations of basic Christianity. Seems to leave a lot of leeway in terms of how scripture could be utilized, and not all Christians take such stances to begin with, hence the problems atheist such as myself reject still are inherent in the belief. I don't want angry or insulting replies, but if anyone has civil thoughts on this matter, I would like to hear your opinion.
@shadaliciousbaby well said. i think the bishop needs to either stick to anything being open for interpretation, or nothing.
if you follow the bible, you'll see that god always does things in a way that is a relative true or false, it's only humans that are subject to absolute values.
the choice can't involve absolute exceptions to literal rules. i think it should be open for interpretation. the bible written ~2000 years ago is supposed to be a personal guideline applicable for all time.
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if a was born in england as theist and happend to be a member of anglican church this bishop would probable be my neil degrasse tyson. but i am an atheist who strongly believe in science and nature and considers earth as beautiful place worthwhile live in, with respect and modesty, thankful for beeing here at present time. and i am very happy that i am on this side
@propatria0704 Homosexuality isn't genetic. Look at identical twins. In most cases when one is gay, the other isn't. Yet they have the exact same DNA. It's probably not genetic. It's biochemical or something.
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I won't be surprised if Richard is now an Agnostic after this interview. He's most likely hiding it. How can you remain an atheist after talking with this man?
@jshjamaar Actually most atheists are also agnostics. Most atheists reserve a 1% or so margin of error that a god MIGHT exist if given the correct evidence. Dawkins has actually said this himself that he is 99% sure there is no god. Same with Christopher Hitchens.
I have never heard someone speak so far out of line as to what scripture actually says in everything this Bishop says. Its as if he has never read the bible and doesnt even know who God is . Its like he's politically correct and using modern pop psychology making it up as he goes. It all sounds so nice doesnt it
@killerboyfoolz That depends on what you mean by "extremist". I am sure you are asking if I am an irrational religious extremist, but I was neither raised in such an environment nor do I believe in any temporal religious organization or structure. Is any criticism of nihilism viewed as religious extremism these days?
I would say I am an extremist for the well being of those around me.
I would be glad to see what you believed to be extremism.
@Icannottolerateit " you are asking if I am an irrational religious extremist," Extremist only are only for atheists, while fundalmentalist are for religion. Hope you understand the logic I am pointing out here.
"what you believed to be extremism" Extremist are ignorant people who only look in one direction. They think that their mind are with science, but what they don't know is that science are basically on a guess that are never 100% correct.
@Icannottolerateit "narrow minded can be a good thing indeed " Thank you to point out that you are an extremist.
Open minded is the "good" thing. Many researchers are open minded. Without open mindness, they wouldn't say "Each sequence of the DNA tells us how we react; emotionally", instead they say, "It's not possible for each sequence to tell us how come we react. We only react by how we are raised"
Narrow minded are for the ignorance. Fundalmentalist and extremist are narrow minded.
What I actually said was, "Narrow mindedness can be a good thing if our minds are narrowly directed toward truth". Are you suggesting our minds should be open to error and lies?
"Narrow minded are for the ignorance"
Well I hope English is not your first language. You failed English 101.
@Icannottolerateit What in science are directed toward the truth? Science and science are argueing everyday. So which one do you think is toward the truth?
I see your point, but try to be more professional and not attack me with your words.
Would you go with embryonic stem cell or adult stem cell? Those are the two researches that science are fighting about.
@killerboyfoolz If science is fighting even with itself why use it as a basis for your understanding since what it knows now will be trumped in the future?
I know objective and ultimate truth, in a sort of Platonic sense, can not only be understood but EXPERIENCED in a subjective way whenever and wherever by anyone.
I do not need to get on this ladder that science has created, because this ladder (science itself proves) that"moves us closer to truth, but never truly obtaining it".
@Icannottolerateit Yeah, sure. I don't think there is a point in this arguement. I already know much about science. Same as you. I see that you are intelligent enough to go with logics, so am I. We're both fighting with nonsense. There is no point in fighting because what is there to win? We're literally both on the same side of the game fighting over something that is useless; Atheist vs Agnostic? Seriously? And all the things you said, I already know what you mean.
@Icannottolerateit From the given comment I'd given you, you should assume that I am Agnostic since you are Atheist. I already know you're an atheist ever since you admit you are an extremist. At least it is nice to know you're not a religious people. Glad to have you on the side of science.
@killerboyfoolz I am not an atheist....I am a theist. I know for certain God exists. I am not in the blind faith department, God is a living reality that proves himself to me through things which cannot be denied or explained in any other way.
@ManOlantern12 That is a wonderful question and one I never mind being asked. I will respond to you in a private message because the character limit will not satisfy the answer.
@killerboyfoolz Or is it because I have spotted a logical inconsistency within those who hold reason to be the "Sonum Bonum" and at the same time view this non-rational morality produced by evolutionary processes for purely utilitarian purposes as the root from which our moral standards arose.
I am an extremist against anything illogical, in the same way Richard is an anti-theist extremist. So if you are going to lay such accusations against me check those you respect as well.
Awesome he sounds like a person who is open to evidence and just feels like there is "something". I wish all Church guys were like him, I'd actually go to church for social reasons at least.
Why are there so many thumbs down? This interview has been really good, even if the bishop had a total cop out reason for why hes a believer, hes still doing a great job at promoting the good side of faith.
"it's a matter of how you interpret the bible" according to his excellency.
That's the point, isn't it. What prevents one from interpreting a compilation of ancient apocrypha [bible] any way one chooses, for any motive or agenda?
What prevents that? Anybody?
The Earth is plagued by morons who believe in ancient dogma, all of them claiming they know "the will of god", truth, morality, justice ..you name it.
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@gangster3591 I am fairly confident nihilism can be interpreted in far more ways and even destructive ways than any religious text.
You believe in inborn morality, right? If that is true how were these ancients inferior to us in anyway? If it is just inborn empirical evidence is irrelevant for any progressive reason.
@gangster3591 I never implied those were the only two options, I was merely addressing the statement that "religion can be interpreted in dangerous ways".
I really do not want to discuss anything with someone who is just going to get hateful and jump to conclusions.....
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Dawkins is much more respectful with this chap's opinions and doesn't really go on the attack over the fundamentals as he does with others. There are two simple problems I have with Dawkins's approach:
a. He elevates reason above all other functions of mind and refuses to recognise that there are other ways to use mind (or 'consciousness') with which he is unfamiliar or unwilling to try, empirically...
@victorem1 fuck man i couldn't have said it better myself, i've been trying to collate those words together in my mind for some time now and you've summed it up, nice work.
I think the whole thing is that "reason" is based on all knowing what it is. 1 apple to you, is 1 apple to you. You can make rules out of it, or use it as knowledge. The problem with things like emotion they are not a consistant thing you could build on. You can be happy one day, feel bad the other. This is extremely different among people and to understand eachother and for example seek medication for aids, we must speak 'the same language' (facts/reason). Emotion can not do this..
I think another thing you might be mentioning there (just a guess) is that he seems to have a problem with people who use faith because it makes them feel good, although maybe unconciously knowing it is not true.
I think the problem with this is that if you do one thing, but know better, you are lying to yourself. This is perfectly fine, if they want to.....but if they say they actually believe (although knowing better) they are lying to this other person, which is not so great..
Another great side about reasoning is that it enables one to ackknowledge the truth. sometimes the truth does not matter, but often it does. If someone has a problem for example, it is widely known that a problem has to be ackknowledged first before it can be fixed. If there is no definiation of the problem, it is quite hard to find a fix for it. Most idealistics would like a better world. A better world can be created by fixing problems, and acknowledging them to achieve that
@victorem1 He elevates reason yet seems to think this inborn morality given to us through evolutionary processes, which is completely non-rational, is where we get our morality and thus admits that his morality is non-rational with a slight veneer of rationality.
There are light years of distance between believers like this Bishop and people like Ray Comfort. In fact, if all religious people was like this bishop I wouldn't have any problems with people of faith.
The Bishop doesn't mention the fact that equally valid gospels were omitted by the council of Nicea A.D. 324 under the direction of the Emperor Constantine. E.g.we have the infant gospel where Jesus made his teacher wither and die for simply reprimanding him , or that part of the Jesus story is based on the sun god Mithra, that virgin births are found in Greek mythology. Come on good Bishop let say NO to censorship and teach this in the schools.
@gibozzo I have respect for the man, but let's be real, here. His religion is still based on a false premise with no evidence to support it. Personally, I place a great deal of value on truth, so this still bothers me. It makes me wonder how this man could possibly "need" religion to make his life feel like it has meaning when he seems so legitimate aside from his religion. Just drop the religion, seek truth, and enjoy life. Simple as that.
@pumarunner88 I suppose for some people religion is truth and I'm happy for them to have that as long as they don't deny me my truths or try to shove theirs down my throat.
He is pretty awesome indeed, I really don't understand why is a Christian, if he interperts the bible the way he wants, and ignore all the horrible stuff that is in that how can he still believe in the god of the bible.
He doesn't believe in god or jezus christ, he believes in his own god, that has nothing to do with the bible.
"Atheists for Jesus." I like that, because Jesus, among many in history, had great morals like love, forgiveness & compassion, but since all religion is just human speculation they're irrelevant. Religions tie in the fear of evil & the quiet submission to someone else's interpretation of life. If god was all-loving & created everything, the mindset for "evil" wouldn't exist. We made up all these concepts which are distracting us from reality & cause so much fighting & hate over trivial shit.
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i think that is the nicest i have ever seen Richard Dawkins im very impressed he also seems to even like this Bishop.
I also like the Bishops position on taking the whole bible in context rather than just text-proofing
Jesus never spoke on the subject but He did act on the subject. He entered the house of Matthew the Tax Collector and ate and drunk with him. (Entering a tax collectors house was considered a sin and defiling)
Within this house there could have been homosexuals, topless dancers
@KiwiChristian Bishop Harries petitioned parliament to legislate against the teaching of Intelligent Design, and got several of UKs leading scientists and clergy to sign, and Dawkins was of course one of the first to sign. So the Professor and the Bishop go back like great mates in many ways
@stoprainingonme@stoprainingonme Great, maybe he did. Do you have a link to a news article on the subject? And im sure the Bishop would be friends with Dawkins, petition or not. Why would someone not want to he friends with anyone?
And i am a little puzzled about why you directed this comment at me. Am i an ID proponent?
@KiwiChristian I can't find the article itself but I think Dawkins mentioned it in the God Delusion and Dawkins refers to it in an article to the Times dated 24 August 2009. And I beg your pardon it wasn't a petition it was just an article in the Times but was signed by scientists and clergy. I just thought I'd mention it to supplement for initial comments about Dawkins and Harries getting along well.
@stoprainingonme Thanks for the information and thanks for the honesty, i truly appreciate it. (It is a rare thing on youtube) Does the idea that Dawkins can have a good friend with a deeply scriptural person or person of faith shock you or seem as a contradiction to you?
@KiwiChristian No it doesn't shock me, nor is it a contradiction. But I do agree with a few of the comments here that its a pleasant relief to see Dawkins have a cordial conversation with a Bishop, rather than the American (and sometimes British) crackpots we usually see him confronting.
PS Dawkins also has a chat with George Coyne, an American Catholic Priest and astronomer. Its on youtube if you're interested
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The Bishops faith is not based on the bible or Christianity its probably not really fair to call him a christian, He seems quite liberal about his views about homosexuality and obviously does not consider it wrong or "sinful" as some would say , Im not sure if he believes that Jesus was anything more than a moral man and as Mr Dawkins so correctly said why stick with christianity if we are proven to have evolved from primates Genesis is incorrect and so was Jesus to believe the testament.
In one part of this interview, Dawkins says he knows a Christian who is strongly against creationism and is active against it. Does anyone know who he is talking about?
Is this bishop for real? If you're going to be a Christian, you can't just throw the Bible out and instutionalize and culturize truth. The bishop talks about "changing facts." What does he mean? You can't actually change facts, or they wouldn't be factual. This guy just likes his cushy job and his cushy paycheck. He's not a Christian, but a paid hypocrite.
i hope you dont mean the content of the bible? have you any idea how many different denominations of christianity there are around the world today? do you think they all interpret 'the facts' of the bible the same? how many different interpretations do you think there have been over the years?
we all sense the universe is divine in some sense, and we all express it differently at different times. we dont live in the same world that the authors of the bible did. face it. this bishop rocks.
Jesus said no such thing. He said not a jot or tittle of the Law (Leviticus etc) would be removed until all had come to pass. Christians are in fact Jews plus the Messiah, and should in theory follow all the Jewish precepts and rites.
It's funny how Dawkins reacts. I guess he's been around too many fundamentalists. From my experience many Christians are actually quite reasonable people who simply want to believe in God and Jesus' message of love and caring.
It's sad how many American fundamentalists somehow turn the idea of loving your neighbour and being a honest person into hating people who are different and lying to the public...
@ragestarfish respect. however, Id like to include, Christianity is more than just the message of love and caring, its also of salvation, and justification. which we all can agree can only be found in a resurrection.
@ragestarfish respect. however, Id like to include, Christianity is more than just the message of love and caring, its also of salvation, and justification. which we all can agree can only be found in a resurrection. and it isn't the simple act of kindness. its Holiness.
its annoying because i like the concept of religon and its morals eg treat ur neighour as yourself(i think thats right), but i just cant beleave that theres a god without any proof.
dont forget, thou shalt not permit a witch to live.
we can come to those conclusions ourselves, we dont and have never needed to have a dominate supernatural being waving a big stick above us threateningly for us to do things that are morally and ethically right.
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homosexuality is a sin and people choose to live that way. if anyone wants to be homosexual fine, but don`t reinvent the bible according to fleshly desires
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Well, I only saw you post 4 quotes, and they were all about different sayings and doings from three of the gospels concerning swords. If you look at the rest of my comment you will see that I fail to see a contradiction. You can make a great joke out of anything if you take it out of context, and your joke was funny, but it wasn't a contradiction.
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wow. you really need stop responding to comments with something that has NOTHING TO DO WITH the comment you're responding to. and don't even try using that whiny "don't use all caps" comeback. it's old, stale, and moldy. you assume too much and make no sense.
Firstly, he doesn't have a following. Atheism has neither leaders not followers. Secondly, regardless of your personal opinions, calling the professional academic Dr Dawkins a fruit loop is just plain stupid.
Actually I think there are plenty of people who have adopted the ideas of the New Atheists, and fly around like parrots repeating every bit of it. I'd prefer that they look at the literature past and present and make a choice for themselves, but I guess it's better than nothing.
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Dawkins here is the most respectful that I have ever seen him. One would think he was a liberal theist himself if it weren't for his radical hateful hokus pokus about people of faith.
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^ Because I know christians that use less flawed logic than any atheist I've ever heard, especially Dawkins.
There should be no reason to exclude science from proving that God does exist, and only use it to prove he doesn't.
If we applied that structure to everything, we would only know that the world isn't flat until we had repetitive first hand evidence from all 'corners' before people accepted that it's round (rather than making a hypothesis based on geometry and physics earlier on).
chrismrulz 6 months ago
@chrismrulz scientists have tried to prove that Genesis is completely improbable, so yeah....God doesn't exist in the sense that he is the creator of all life. What the Bishop is arguing is that God is a beautiful spirit; an inner spiritual force by which one can draw morals from. But if you really do believe that someone conjured up the world in 7 days or that dinosaurs were here 3000 years ago, then you're welcome. I'm not obligated to educate you.
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chrismrulz 6 months ago
@987Mars I can't point out when I mentioned anything about genesis, or where the bishop denied God as the creator.
The only part of what you said that would be compatible with my argument is if you meant 'completely probable'.
Like the bishop, I'm not assigned to taking Genesis literally or completely denying it. The bible is subject to human error.
However, I don't buy into natural selection's logic to perpetuate genome mods, that spawned randomly. I know an ad hoc hypothesis when I see it.
chrismrulz 6 months ago
@chrismrulz why is the bible subject to human error when it is supposedly the word of God, the omnipotent being devoid of error? I think you just shot yourself in the foot there.
987Mars 6 months ago
@987Mars I am replying to your straw man though, my initial argument was that using science or rational thinking to prove God, is deemed crazy by anyone in the field of science;
But going in with a presupposition that he doesn't exist to prove that is ok.
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chrismrulz 6 months ago
Dawkins can't handle the idea that there are smart christians out there that are using logic he can understand to explain the existence of god.. he insists it's only because of atheism's uprise that religious people are departing from their true belief.
I've always been like the bishop.. everything makes more sense using fuzzy logic and probability theory to support a rational premise that an omnipotent omniscient creator exists than doesn't.
To say it's "Science vs God" is ignorant.
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I have an incredible amount of respect for the Bishop. My only concern is that all his "liberal" ideologies come from interpretations of basic Christianity. Seems to leave a lot of leeway in terms of how scripture could be utilized, and not all Christians take such stances to begin with, hence the problems atheist such as myself reject still are inherent in the belief. I don't want angry or insulting replies, but if anyone has civil thoughts on this matter, I would like to hear your opinion.
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@shadaliciousbaby well said. i think the bishop needs to either stick to anything being open for interpretation, or nothing.
if you follow the bible, you'll see that god always does things in a way that is a relative true or false, it's only humans that are subject to absolute values.
the choice can't involve absolute exceptions to literal rules. i think it should be open for interpretation. the bible written ~2000 years ago is supposed to be a personal guideline applicable for all time.
chrismrulz 6 months ago
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roflwaffle12321 8 months ago
I am an atheist, but I like Bishop Harries. He is quite liberal and same time spiritual. He also is quite honest.
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tigersforchrist 9 months ago
whoa, found this watching a whacko Shelby Spong video, yet another whacktard "ORGANISED RELIGION" minister.
hemet92544 9 months ago
Why aren't my religious people like this?
ana8woahhh 10 months ago 26
@ana8woahhh There are plenty of open-minded religious people. People just don't look hard enough and assume [american religion in the media (mostly christian)] = [religion as a whole].
People need to remember there are just as many uneducated, ignorant atheists as there are for religion. Stupid atheists make the rest of the atheists look bad, and stupid religious people make the rest of the religious people look bad. 2 sides to every coin.
MartyBlois 7 months ago
if a was born in england as theist and happend to be a member of anglican church this bishop would probable be my neil degrasse tyson. but i am an atheist who strongly believe in science and nature and considers earth as beautiful place worthwhile live in, with respect and modesty, thankful for beeing here at present time. and i am very happy that i am on this side
pustolov9 10 months ago
We live in year 2011. By now, we should know the genetics of homosexuals. What are the obstacles in researching?
propatria0704 11 months ago
@propatria0704 Homosexuality isn't genetic. Look at identical twins. In most cases when one is gay, the other isn't. Yet they have the exact same DNA. It's probably not genetic. It's biochemical or something.
roddiero 10 months ago
@propatria0704 Who told you that we would know the genetic cause of homosexuals in 2011?
Tuya56 9 months ago
this bishop is more of a pantheist.
PsychoGabriel33 11 months ago
I;m pretty sure they've found a biological connection to homosexuality,at least a gene or is that a myth?
thedirtydeltas 1 year ago
@thedirtydeltas Studies in psychology show that there is some degree of genetics, by doing studies on people with variable levels of genetic similarity and correlation of sexualities; however, whether or not environmental factors do effect and if so to what degree it effects is not known.
p00pwater 1 year ago
@p00pwater well that reply suits me.
thedirtydeltas 1 year ago
well almost all christians i know think just like this bishop, though some might be abit more of a pasifist...
I just hope Dawkins remembers people like this the next time he starts to ramble on about faith being a virus and the root to all evil...
woweixiaomiandui 1 year ago
I won't be surprised if Richard is now an Agnostic after this interview. He's most likely hiding it. How can you remain an atheist after talking with this man?
jshjamaar 1 year ago
@jshjamaar Actually most atheists are also agnostics. Most atheists reserve a 1% or so margin of error that a god MIGHT exist if given the correct evidence. Dawkins has actually said this himself that he is 99% sure there is no god. Same with Christopher Hitchens.
talover30 1 year ago
It has been a while since I last saw a christlike christian. This bishop is a shining example to christians all over the world.
Poltionorch 1 year ago
I have never heard someone speak so far out of line as to what scripture actually says in everything this Bishop says. Its as if he has never read the bible and doesnt even know who God is . Its like he's politically correct and using modern pop psychology making it up as he goes. It all sounds so nice doesnt it
barymire 1 year ago
Omg, this is how all christians should act! There can be finally peace to this world!
killerboyfoolz 1 year ago
@killerboyfoolz Except he seems far more like Thomas Aquinas than Jesus Christ or Paul.....
Icannottolerateit 1 year ago
@Icannottolerateit Are you an extremist? From all your responses I read so far, it hinted me that you are an extremist.
killerboyfoolz 1 year ago
@killerboyfoolz That depends on what you mean by "extremist". I am sure you are asking if I am an irrational religious extremist, but I was neither raised in such an environment nor do I believe in any temporal religious organization or structure. Is any criticism of nihilism viewed as religious extremism these days?
I would say I am an extremist for the well being of those around me.
I would be glad to see what you believed to be extremism.
Icannottolerateit 1 year ago
@Icannottolerateit " you are asking if I am an irrational religious extremist," Extremist only are only for atheists, while fundalmentalist are for religion. Hope you understand the logic I am pointing out here.
"what you believed to be extremism" Extremist are ignorant people who only look in one direction. They think that their mind are with science, but what they don't know is that science are basically on a guess that are never 100% correct.
Extremist/Fundalmentalist = ignorant
killerboyfoolz 1 year ago
@killerboyfoolz Well I think one is a very reasonable person to ONLY look in the direction of truth.
To be narrow minded can be a good thing indeed if what you are minded toward is truth.
As far as being ignorant I still ask what I said which you incline you to believe I am such an extremist.
Icannottolerateit 1 year ago
@Icannottolerateit "narrow minded can be a good thing indeed " Thank you to point out that you are an extremist.
Open minded is the "good" thing. Many researchers are open minded. Without open mindness, they wouldn't say "Each sequence of the DNA tells us how we react; emotionally", instead they say, "It's not possible for each sequence to tell us how come we react. We only react by how we are raised"
Narrow minded are for the ignorance. Fundalmentalist and extremist are narrow minded.
killerboyfoolz 1 year ago
@killerboyfoolz You removed that from all context.
What I actually said was, "Narrow mindedness can be a good thing if our minds are narrowly directed toward truth". Are you suggesting our minds should be open to error and lies?
"Narrow minded are for the ignorance"
Well I hope English is not your first language. You failed English 101.
Icannottolerateit 1 year ago
@Icannottolerateit What in science are directed toward the truth? Science and science are argueing everyday. So which one do you think is toward the truth?
I see your point, but try to be more professional and not attack me with your words.
Would you go with embryonic stem cell or adult stem cell? Those are the two researches that science are fighting about.
killerboyfoolz 1 year ago
@killerboyfoolz If science is fighting even with itself why use it as a basis for your understanding since what it knows now will be trumped in the future?
I know objective and ultimate truth, in a sort of Platonic sense, can not only be understood but EXPERIENCED in a subjective way whenever and wherever by anyone.
I do not need to get on this ladder that science has created, because this ladder (science itself proves) that"moves us closer to truth, but never truly obtaining it".
Icannottolerateit 1 year ago
@Icannottolerateit Yeah, sure. I don't think there is a point in this arguement. I already know much about science. Same as you. I see that you are intelligent enough to go with logics, so am I. We're both fighting with nonsense. There is no point in fighting because what is there to win? We're literally both on the same side of the game fighting over something that is useless; Atheist vs Agnostic? Seriously? And all the things you said, I already know what you mean.
killerboyfoolz 1 year ago
@killerboyfoolz I am not an agnostic though. I am on the theist side, a very specific part of the theist side.
Icannottolerateit 1 year ago
@Icannottolerateit From the given comment I'd given you, you should assume that I am Agnostic since you are Atheist. I already know you're an atheist ever since you admit you are an extremist. At least it is nice to know you're not a religious people. Glad to have you on the side of science.
killerboyfoolz 1 year ago
@killerboyfoolz I am not an atheist....I am a theist. I know for certain God exists. I am not in the blind faith department, God is a living reality that proves himself to me through things which cannot be denied or explained in any other way.
Icannottolerateit 1 year ago 6
@Icannottolerateit I see. I don't know much theist, but is it the same as deism?
killerboyfoolz 1 year ago
@Icannottolerateit If you do not mind me asking, how does God, in your life, prove his existence?
ManOlantern12 1 year ago
@ManOlantern12 That is a wonderful question and one I never mind being asked. I will respond to you in a private message because the character limit will not satisfy the answer.
Icannottolerateit 1 year ago
@Icannottolerateit certain is a strong word. where i the proof? what examples do you refer to that can't be explained or denied?
johnnylawrence123456 1 month ago
@Icannottolerateit Why is the situation certainly not that you just don't have enough knowledge to explain those things, but you may in the future?
ultimateZigzag 2 weeks ago
@killerboyfoolz Or is it because I have spotted a logical inconsistency within those who hold reason to be the "Sonum Bonum" and at the same time view this non-rational morality produced by evolutionary processes for purely utilitarian purposes as the root from which our moral standards arose.
I am an extremist against anything illogical, in the same way Richard is an anti-theist extremist. So if you are going to lay such accusations against me check those you respect as well.
Icannottolerateit 1 year ago
richard is so cute!
Shaghayegh11 1 year ago
Awesome he sounds like a person who is open to evidence and just feels like there is "something". I wish all Church guys were like him, I'd actually go to church for social reasons at least.
bbmkanata 1 year ago
Why are there so many thumbs down? This interview has been really good, even if the bishop had a total cop out reason for why hes a believer, hes still doing a great job at promoting the good side of faith.
TehOwnerer999 1 year ago
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Sextonius 1 year ago
I'd go to his church - and I'm a die hard Athesit!!!!
flyingfisbeefilms 1 year ago
"it's a matter of how you interpret the bible" according to his excellency.
That's the point, isn't it. What prevents one from interpreting a compilation of ancient apocrypha [bible] any way one chooses, for any motive or agenda?
What prevents that? Anybody?
The Earth is plagued by morons who believe in ancient dogma, all of them claiming they know "the will of god", truth, morality, justice ..you name it.
@The Great Religious Irony: it is religion that will - inevitably - end the human race
gangster3591 1 year ago
@gangster3591 I am fairly confident nihilism can be interpreted in far more ways and even destructive ways than any religious text.
You believe in inborn morality, right? If that is true how were these ancients inferior to us in anyway? If it is just inborn empirical evidence is irrelevant for any progressive reason.
Icannottolerateit 1 year ago
@Icannottolerateit .."nihilism can be interpreted in far more ways and even destructive ways than any religious text" (incoherent)
You seem to propose that humans must choose between dogma (religion) and 'nihilism'. Nonsense like this flunks you out of philosophy 101.
You believe in inborn morality, right? Wrong
"If it is just inborn empirical evidence is irrelevant"
I'm not sure empirical evidence is ever irrelevant
gangster3591 1 year ago
@gangster3591 I never implied those were the only two options, I was merely addressing the statement that "religion can be interpreted in dangerous ways".
I really do not want to discuss anything with someone who is just going to get hateful and jump to conclusions.....
Icannottolerateit 1 year ago
@gangster3591 I proposed that? Or perhaps I was addressing a very specific assertion made by this person.....
Youtubers always seem juvenile, narcissistic, angry, ever ready to argue and always seeing what they want to see.....
Why do I even bother coming here?
Icannottolerateit 1 year ago
Why is this guy a bishop?
lmihay 1 year ago
Wr.t. homosexuality, according to Hindu theory when one dies, the most promenant image or form existing in the mind is what one becomes. If you think of your wife (if youre a man) while you die you will become a woman. But your desires for the gentler gender may remain, in your next life.
colinmaharaj 1 year ago
yeah intelligent bishop, but dont expect such statements from a fucking gay katholic priest ....
btw. i dont like gays very much, but thats the way i am.
dont hate me ! :P
hackie77 1 year ago
see the beauty when Atheists and Theists all work together in Harmony
pcbb01 1 year ago
this is the kind of theist that should defend our side, honest, warm and absolutely non-fundamentalist....
pcbb01 1 year ago
As Aretha said it amazing what a little R.E.S.P.E.C.T can achieve! Brilliant
tigertyas 1 year ago
this christian is soooo cool... bless him!
factually1 1 year ago
Why the Hell does this Bishop even read the Bible? Dawkins is on to his sham.
Entropy56 1 year ago
Dawkins is much more respectful with this chap's opinions and doesn't really go on the attack over the fundamentals as he does with others. There are two simple problems I have with Dawkins's approach:
a. He elevates reason above all other functions of mind and refuses to recognise that there are other ways to use mind (or 'consciousness') with which he is unfamiliar or unwilling to try, empirically...
victorem1 1 year ago
@victorem1 fuck man i couldn't have said it better myself, i've been trying to collate those words together in my mind for some time now and you've summed it up, nice work.
EweTubee 1 year ago
@victorem1
I think the whole thing is that "reason" is based on all knowing what it is. 1 apple to you, is 1 apple to you. You can make rules out of it, or use it as knowledge. The problem with things like emotion they are not a consistant thing you could build on. You can be happy one day, feel bad the other. This is extremely different among people and to understand eachother and for example seek medication for aids, we must speak 'the same language' (facts/reason). Emotion can not do this..
PowerRedBull 1 year ago
@PowerRedBull
I had a typo in my previouis comment
i meant to say
" One apple to you, is 1 apple to me"
PowerRedBull 1 year ago
@victorem1
I think another thing you might be mentioning there (just a guess) is that he seems to have a problem with people who use faith because it makes them feel good, although maybe unconciously knowing it is not true.
I think the problem with this is that if you do one thing, but know better, you are lying to yourself. This is perfectly fine, if they want to.....but if they say they actually believe (although knowing better) they are lying to this other person, which is not so great..
PowerRedBull 1 year ago
@PowerRedBull
Another great side about reasoning is that it enables one to ackknowledge the truth. sometimes the truth does not matter, but often it does. If someone has a problem for example, it is widely known that a problem has to be ackknowledged first before it can be fixed. If there is no definiation of the problem, it is quite hard to find a fix for it. Most idealistics would like a better world. A better world can be created by fixing problems, and acknowledging them to achieve that
PowerRedBull 1 year ago
@victorem1 He elevates reason yet seems to think this inborn morality given to us through evolutionary processes, which is completely non-rational, is where we get our morality and thus admits that his morality is non-rational with a slight veneer of rationality.
Icannottolerateit 1 year ago
There are light years of distance between believers like this Bishop and people like Ray Comfort. In fact, if all religious people was like this bishop I wouldn't have any problems with people of faith.
FrozenPetrolPie 1 year ago
Quite possibly the most logical, sensable and smartest christian Ive seen till date!
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Thechristiancullen 1 year ago
The Bishop doesn't mention the fact that equally valid gospels were omitted by the council of Nicea A.D. 324 under the direction of the Emperor Constantine. E.g.we have the infant gospel where Jesus made his teacher wither and die for simply reprimanding him , or that part of the Jesus story is based on the sun god Mithra, that virgin births are found in Greek mythology. Come on good Bishop let say NO to censorship and teach this in the schools.
DrMontague 1 year ago
@DrMontague Equally valid? Except the famous Christian writers in the early second century did not consider them valid.....*sigh*
Again with the Dan Brown type conspiracy theories....
Icannottolerateit 1 year ago
I have been watching countless debates and conversations between theists and atheists over the last few days.
Out of all those videos, this is the first theist that I have any respect for.
gibozzo 1 year ago 69
@gibozzo I can't tell the difference between the Bishop and the atheist!
Thechristiancullen 1 year ago
@gibozzo I have respect for the man, but let's be real, here. His religion is still based on a false premise with no evidence to support it. Personally, I place a great deal of value on truth, so this still bothers me. It makes me wonder how this man could possibly "need" religion to make his life feel like it has meaning when he seems so legitimate aside from his religion. Just drop the religion, seek truth, and enjoy life. Simple as that.
pumarunner88 9 months ago
@pumarunner88 I suppose for some people religion is truth and I'm happy for them to have that as long as they don't deny me my truths or try to shove theirs down my throat.
gibozzo 9 months ago
@gibozzo: Yes, the Bishop is decent, open-minded and worthy of respect. If you want to find another one, search "John Shelby Spong".
auriciangelescu 7 months ago
@gibozzo Have you ever listened to a debate with John Lennox?
Gazdo01 6 months ago
@Gazdo01 No. I have never heard of him. Any suggestions as to which debate I should watch?
gibozzo 6 months ago
@gibozzo
/watch?v=J0UIbd0eLxw (vs Dawkins)
/watch?v=xjGCIh4WrKI (on science and religion)
/watch?v=TYXTZwtp47Y (vs Hitchens)
/watch?v=Yx0CXmagQu0 (vs Atkins)
/watch?v=222ihLZlujQ (on Stephen Hawkins)
/watch?v=V3t-g4z0Igw (Is Faith delusionnal?)
/watch?v=JcOIf1U8U8Y (vs Shermer)
These are the ones I particularly enjoyed :)
Please let me know what you think about him
Gazdo01 6 months ago
He is pretty awesome indeed, I really don't understand why is a Christian, if he interperts the bible the way he wants, and ignore all the horrible stuff that is in that how can he still believe in the god of the bible.
He doesn't believe in god or jezus christ, he believes in his own god, that has nothing to do with the bible.
MrMarley217 1 year ago
@MrMarley217 that's what I thought as well. This has nothing to do with christianity anymore.
tschubidi 1 year ago
"Atheists for Jesus." I like that, because Jesus, among many in history, had great morals like love, forgiveness & compassion, but since all religion is just human speculation they're irrelevant. Religions tie in the fear of evil & the quiet submission to someone else's interpretation of life. If god was all-loving & created everything, the mindset for "evil" wouldn't exist. We made up all these concepts which are distracting us from reality & cause so much fighting & hate over trivial shit.
djda99 1 year ago
In 1989 NASA launched a satellite (Cuba) to detect cosmic radiation left over from the Big Bang and compiling information on the radiation and was able to moon in 8 minutes only to give a complete picture of the radiation and the universe proved to be updated and this is what atheists sign a major embarrassment says ASEddington: -- The idea that nature seems to me suddenly appeared embarrassed
Tofy710 1 year ago
i find the chaps rather gettin on like two bloody good blokes...
johnsmdm 1 year ago
i think that is the nicest i have ever seen Richard Dawkins im very impressed he also seems to even like this Bishop.
I also like the Bishops position on taking the whole bible in context rather than just text-proofing
Jesus never spoke on the subject but He did act on the subject. He entered the house of Matthew the Tax Collector and ate and drunk with him. (Entering a tax collectors house was considered a sin and defiling)
Within this house there could have been homosexuals, topless dancers
KiwiChristian 1 year ago
@KiwiChristian Bishop Harries petitioned parliament to legislate against the teaching of Intelligent Design, and got several of UKs leading scientists and clergy to sign, and Dawkins was of course one of the first to sign. So the Professor and the Bishop go back like great mates in many ways
stoprainingonme 1 year ago
@stoprainingonme @stoprainingonme Great, maybe he did. Do you have a link to a news article on the subject? And im sure the Bishop would be friends with Dawkins, petition or not. Why would someone not want to he friends with anyone?
And i am a little puzzled about why you directed this comment at me. Am i an ID proponent?
KiwiChristian 1 year ago
@KiwiChristian I can't find the article itself but I think Dawkins mentioned it in the God Delusion and Dawkins refers to it in an article to the Times dated 24 August 2009. And I beg your pardon it wasn't a petition it was just an article in the Times but was signed by scientists and clergy. I just thought I'd mention it to supplement for initial comments about Dawkins and Harries getting along well.
Cheers
stoprainingonme 1 year ago
@stoprainingonme Thanks for the information and thanks for the honesty, i truly appreciate it. (It is a rare thing on youtube) Does the idea that Dawkins can have a good friend with a deeply scriptural person or person of faith shock you or seem as a contradiction to you?
KiwiChristian 1 year ago
@KiwiChristian No it doesn't shock me, nor is it a contradiction. But I do agree with a few of the comments here that its a pleasant relief to see Dawkins have a cordial conversation with a Bishop, rather than the American (and sometimes British) crackpots we usually see him confronting.
PS Dawkins also has a chat with George Coyne, an American Catholic Priest and astronomer. Its on youtube if you're interested
stoprainingonme 1 year ago 2
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7Inform 2 years ago
pathetic
teebsi2 2 years ago
This Bishop is awesome!
ElaLemke 2 years ago 83
Agreed. Makes me want to convert to Anglicanism.
GohModley 2 years ago 3
The Bishops faith is not based on the bible or Christianity its probably not really fair to call him a christian, He seems quite liberal about his views about homosexuality and obviously does not consider it wrong or "sinful" as some would say , Im not sure if he believes that Jesus was anything more than a moral man and as Mr Dawkins so correctly said why stick with christianity if we are proven to have evolved from primates Genesis is incorrect and so was Jesus to believe the testament.
SuperXenomorph 2 years ago
they wouldn't make him the Bishop of Oxford if he doesn't have good reasoning abilities and can't break away from conventional Christianity.
cuervocorazon 2 years ago
christianity is a holding pattern religion.
just watch your self, thinking working playing, it realy is that easy.
DANTHETUBEMAN 2 years ago
check is in the mail Dawkins!!!
discipulo123 2 years ago
That's funny the Independents have survived since the early 1500s without an institution.
gbvegeta 2 years ago
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Jesus is my teacher. He's much more intelligent and wise then silly man.
royalsteven 2 years ago
He forgot to teach you correct grammar.
joelernestcameron 2 years ago 3
At least my spelling is right!
royalsteven 2 years ago
They could almost be brothers these two.
opencurtin 2 years ago
That Bishop came out with some nice answers
sfurner 2 years ago
In one part of this interview, Dawkins says he knows a Christian who is strongly against creationism and is active against it. Does anyone know who he is talking about?
MelonHeadFilmz 2 years ago
Possibly Ken Miller?
JJGMTS 2 years ago
Is this bishop for real? If you're going to be a Christian, you can't just throw the Bible out and instutionalize and culturize truth. The bishop talks about "changing facts." What does he mean? You can't actually change facts, or they wouldn't be factual. This guy just likes his cushy job and his cushy paycheck. He's not a Christian, but a paid hypocrite.
aes7878 2 years ago
i hope you dont mean the content of the bible? have you any idea how many different denominations of christianity there are around the world today? do you think they all interpret 'the facts' of the bible the same? how many different interpretations do you think there have been over the years?
we all sense the universe is divine in some sense, and we all express it differently at different times. we dont live in the same world that the authors of the bible did. face it. this bishop rocks.
ab2ghu 2 years ago 4
using the real teachings of jesus instead of the fake shite in the book which is written by insane men?
MitchofSmeg 2 years ago
surelyif youra christian you should disregard the oldtestament>?
jesus said forget those old rules here the only two you shoul follow
love me
love your neighbour
christians aint jews so why follow what it says in the old testament?
in leviticus it says you should notbe gay yes
it also says you should not eat shelfish
it says both of these facts with the same severity
yet most christains dont follow that
OASISFAN960 2 years ago
I guess Jesus knew the old testament contains a lot of nonsense.
TaiFerret 2 years ago
i think the old testament is there for the prophecies that christians believe Jesus fullfilled. The new testament is more important for christians.
Hope this answers your Question, OASISFAN960
MelonHeadFilmz 2 years ago
Jesus said no such thing. He said not a jot or tittle of the Law (Leviticus etc) would be removed until all had come to pass. Christians are in fact Jews plus the Messiah, and should in theory follow all the Jewish precepts and rites.
donepearce 2 years ago 3
exactly. all christians are jews. just accept it :)
mutedmakequiet 2 years ago
homosexuality is a sin
discipulo123 2 years ago
discipulo123, I think you mean "homosexuality is a sign" which would account for its predominance amongst the clergy.
nickyact1 2 years ago
And a fucking fantastic one at that!
ruinedbyidiots 2 years ago
It's funny how Dawkins reacts. I guess he's been around too many fundamentalists. From my experience many Christians are actually quite reasonable people who simply want to believe in God and Jesus' message of love and caring.
It's sad how many American fundamentalists somehow turn the idea of loving your neighbour and being a honest person into hating people who are different and lying to the public...
ragestarfish 2 years ago 35
@ragestarfish All the religious zealots were hounded out of England,
America got stuck with them.
jonesgerard 1 year ago
@jonesgerard hahahaha, yep
Chuckles543 1 year ago
@ragestarfish respect. however, Id like to include, Christianity is more than just the message of love and caring, its also of salvation, and justification. which we all can agree can only be found in a resurrection.
Ulyssesskye 1 year ago
@ragestarfish respect. however, Id like to include, Christianity is more than just the message of love and caring, its also of salvation, and justification. which we all can agree can only be found in a resurrection. and it isn't the simple act of kindness. its Holiness.
Ulyssesskye 1 year ago
This is a wonderful and human exchange of perspective caught on camera.
nuke97 2 years ago 3
Was the US founded on Christianity? No.
The Treaty of Tripoli (Article 11)
"The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion"
Ratified by Congress and signed by John Adams.
Please look it up and read for yourself.
apollosg85 2 years ago 2
you are right, what else?
discipulo123 2 years ago
its annoying because i like the concept of religon and its morals eg treat ur neighour as yourself(i think thats right), but i just cant beleave that theres a god without any proof.
bhamberkiran 2 years ago 4
dont forget, thou shalt not permit a witch to live.
we can come to those conclusions ourselves, we dont and have never needed to have a dominate supernatural being waving a big stick above us threateningly for us to do things that are morally and ethically right.
Bodzilla1 2 years ago
I awarded you with a big fat thumbs up, enjoy.
n0deity 2 years ago
thats the type of God dawkins is comfortable with.
hes problem is not wether or not God exist, he just don`t want the God of the bible
discipulo123 2 years ago 6
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homosexuality is a sin and people choose to live that way. if anyone wants to be homosexual fine, but don`t reinvent the bible according to fleshly desires
God hates heresies!!!!!
discipulo123 2 years ago
discipulo
You don't even beat around the bush do you? just right out with it... proclamation of ignorance.
apollosg85 2 years ago
God hates heresies,
discipulo123 2 years ago
Did you ask him?
TheAtheistAussie 2 years ago 3
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As is the Anglican Church. Thank you.
dom198013 2 years ago
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the bible is infallible, inherrant, jesus is God , come everybody,repent and believe and belong to the new city of one king, there is amnesty, and forgiveness, come and love God and live under his protection. aleluya
discipulo123 2 years ago
Jesus is dead my friend. But yes Love is good! but selective love is dangerous.
Can you love me?
javedmahmood 2 years ago
For who owns a bible i suggest to read this 4 in line, it would be very funny but i won't ruin the surprise ;)
John 18, 11
Mattew 26, 52
Luke 22, 50
Luke 22, 36
LOL
ChristianIce 2 years ago
That's pretty funny, ChristianIce! But I doubt that "living by the sword" is the same as packing one for a trip.
SimplyApologetics 2 years ago
I know it's funny, what about the other quotes?
It was you asking for the contraddictions in the new testament, seems you didn't see the answers.
ChristianIce 2 years ago
Well, I only saw you post 4 quotes, and they were all about different sayings and doings from three of the gospels concerning swords. If you look at the rest of my comment you will see that I fail to see a contradiction. You can make a great joke out of anything if you take it out of context, and your joke was funny, but it wasn't a contradiction.
SimplyApologetics 2 years ago
the 4 quotes (not the last joke) are in contraddiction with the messages of "peace and love" that I didn't quote cause i am sure everybody knows.
It's pretty obvious, or you want me to pick 4 quotes with "love your enemy" from the NT?
ChristianIce 2 years ago
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For more search YouTube or Web for "chromosome" & "Quran"
Hundreds of such phenomena!
Salem838 2 years ago
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Richard Dawkins should watch this!
watch?v=BKmdIdQg3Ks
:D
Eye2EyeIIIV 2 years ago
theres got to be a lot of "atheist for jesus". I mean the dude was alot like MLK
tua25544 2 years ago
"Changing facts"
Facts change? News to me.
"All a matter of interpretation"
That's interesting... I'll interpret your words to mean absolutely nothing. You can't tell me I'm wrong.
shotinthedark90 2 years ago
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MikeyJ18 2 years ago
Queer versus Flit...at church no less...
AffirmedConclusion 2 years ago
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The question is: Why does this
fruit loop Dawkins have a following?
TheReboundingWorld 2 years ago
Rednecks would not have lasted for long
in General Robert E. Lee's battalion.
AffirmedConclusion 2 years ago 2
The weak are always targets: attack
the unborn, attack the enfeebled.
TheReboundingWorld 2 years ago
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Because he's an asshole. He's the Simon Cowell of Science. EVERYBODY loves an asshole! *gag*
WolfSyndrome 2 years ago
If he's an asshole, the world needs more assholes.
rrpostalagain 2 years ago
After watching more stuff I've noticed that he's not really a douche anymore. It's mostly the older stuff that my comment refers to.
WolfSyndrome 2 years ago
and everybody loves white fluffy bunnies because deep down we are all fucked up,depressed and extremely lonely with all our cars,big houses and awesome orgasms.
you are truly that empty ?
arare666 2 years ago
wow. you really need stop responding to comments with something that has NOTHING TO DO WITH the comment you're responding to. and don't even try using that whiny "don't use all caps" comeback. it's old, stale, and moldy. you assume too much and make no sense.
WolfSyndrome 2 years ago
"Why does this
fruit loop Dawkins have a following?"
Firstly, he doesn't have a following. Atheism has neither leaders not followers. Secondly, regardless of your personal opinions, calling the professional academic Dr Dawkins a fruit loop is just plain stupid.
stalwartatheist 2 years ago 16
Actually I think there are plenty of people who have adopted the ideas of the New Atheists, and fly around like parrots repeating every bit of it. I'd prefer that they look at the literature past and present and make a choice for themselves, but I guess it's better than nothing.
nigerlover18 2 years ago
"Atheism has neither leaders not followers." hahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahhahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gangjoyful 2 years ago
Atheisam created computers so you can post ignorant comments hahahahaha DORK!! why dont you check all the countries that have no atheist they live in huts and 400 year old buildings u assholle
neoarcadezr 2 years ago