What I intended to say was Tubby truly deserves to be mentioned along with the likes of Rollins, Coltrane ....it's hard to imagine anyone going toe to toe with Tubby on this one!
I was discussing this clip with John Critchinson at the Bull's Head the other day, in the course of a conversation about Harry South, Harold McNair, Joe Harriott and Terry Shannon. (As the Critch wryly commented, "Ou sont les neiges d'antan?")
We both agreed that stylistically it's an interesting compromise between the modal-pastoralism of Vaughan Williams and the advanced harmonic syntax of middle-period Justin Timberlake (with just the faintest trace of the original Fivepenny Piece).
Do you remember the evening when Bil le Sage, Bobby Wellins and Art went round to the 100 Club mobhanded? He had 130 stone waiting outside in the back of the Commer van in the days before double yellow lines. He reckoned that Simon Dee was trying to muscle in on the Chinese there. As we now know it was Cliff Michelmore and Judith Chalmers. It all ended pleasantly enough with Bill ordering his usual Beef Ho Fun. Wellins ordered a 76 and a 103 but left before eating it and of course didn't pay.
Hello Charles - long time no drink! I do not recall that guy's name but he was alwaysknown simply as 'The Gasman'. Wasn't he involved with that string of 'nail parlours' that Don Lusher ran along the Mile End? I seem to recall he was chummy with Don and Johnny and they all drank in The Vine.
Actually, it was Lusher's wife Diane who ran the parlours. She was a hard woman but made the best Dundee cake this side of the West. I remember once her, Michael Garrick's wife and Blossom Dearie got into a fight over whether the cherries should be dusted in flour before putting them in the mix or not. Blossom said it unbalanced the cake if all the cherries sunk to the bottom. Shortly after that she took George Melly up to Newcastle for a gig.
Jimmy D used to own all the school milk concessions from Yeading right the way to Ealing and Acton. It was the only way he could afford to play jazz. The only exception to that was that Alan Ganley owned the Featherstone Road milk, and dinners, in Southall, something he bought from Cleo Laine in about 1953 I think. Of course it all changed shortly after that once Pete got chummy with Johnny and the gasworks manager whose name I can't remember. Happy days.
Isn't it strange how it is hard (a complicated piece sure enough) even for geniuses like Hayes and Deuchar. The relief on their faces at the end is palpable.
Alan Ganley was great - also check Tubby Down In The Village somone posted the track on here ...play it! then say wether people could swing here or not ,i dare you¬!!!
So very sad to report that the great drummer Allan Ganley passed away suddenly on Saturday 29th March 2008. He had turned 77 earlier this month. He will be terribly missed by his family, friends, associates, and a multitude of fans worldwide.
This is absolutely one of the most fantastic performances I have been privileged to witness. Everyone in it, including the rhythm section, is truly outstanding. Can anyone tell me if this performance, i.e., "Suddenly Last Tuesday", is on one of Tubby Hayes' or Jimmy Deuchar"s CDs. If so, please tell me which one. Thank you.
I am so pleased that several of you appreciate those great players around London in the 60s..I have traveled a fair amount around the jazz clubs of the USA and never have I found the consistent high standards that existed in London in that era... today...I am not there anymore so let us hear from someone who is..COURTENAYJAZZ.
I saw Tubby ....Jimmy..Alan etc many many times all over London,they were always superb. In my opinion Tubby was one of the greatest tenor players of all time..we lost Tubby far too soon. I still play his recordings almost every day.How underrated these British cats were but not anymore.
courtenayjazz; I grew up in London during the 60's. I've also seen some of the finest American sax players like Stitt, Dexter & Rollins. There were times when i would've put Tubby high above any American player. "Awesome" is a word that is overused these days and applied to everyone who is mediocre but Hayes was TRULY awesome. I also thought Joe Harriott was an astounding player from the UK.(very underrated)
to Mojoelem....so glad you share my opinion on Tubby...Numero uno...did you get to see Harold Mc Nair ?? wonderful altoist and Yes..Joe Harriot was wonderful...Courtenayjazz.
saradavies17; Yes, i was fortunate to've seen McNair, Harry Beckett, Wilton Gaynor,Graham Collier, Michael Garrick,Amancio D'Silva, Don Rendell..and a saxman called Art Theman who i think is also a brain surgeon by day.
One of the teachers at my school was Dave Gelly, UK jazz journalist. This must all sound rather smug!(sorry)
caspar1; Art is great. Yes, thank you for correcting me..you are absolutely correct..Art is infact an orthopaedic surgeon. I met him a couple of times when he was with the Stan Tracey Quartet.
courtenay; Tubby was better than alot of American players. Infact i think they were amazed at his skill when he went over there. Apart from Peter King, there aren't too many Brit players that impress me today..maybe it's because of the hip-hop fusion scene which i just don't grab. The UK Bohemian 1960's was my era.
Thanks. I really appreciated this. Saw him quite a few times in the late Sixties, but only with his quintet. My first real experience of good live jazz. He was brilliant!
I've never heard of that great trumpetman; shame on me, I know my history, from Bix to....I like Tubby Hayes, Dutch tenor Toon van Vliet; Barney Wilen and Bobby Jaspar
I used to have a recording of this session. It was recorded for the BBC in the '60s and was put out on a jazz show which they(BBC)used to run at the time. I think the show was called something like Jazz 655 (those numbers could be wrong, though).
The session's other arrangements were equally as good : tunes such as In The Night, Blues for Bloody Moirag and Bud Powell's Parisien Thoroughfare.
The sessions also features Tubby on vibraphone and flute.
I've been telling musicians here in Dallas, Texas how great Tubby Hayes is for years but I didn't know of Jimmy Deuchar! Not only is he a burnin' soloist but his arrangement of this tune is burnin'!! Does anyone know where I can Get some of those incredible arrangements of his?? The band is incredible on this cut!
Hi, thanks for answering. From the one example I heard on this video, I think Jimmy Deuchar's arrangements would be great fun to play. I am a master's student at a university here that has nine big bands, so they have a pretty extensive library but none of Deuchar's arrangements. I hope the musicians in G.B. are playing his stuff. I hate to think of arrangements like the one on this video gathering dust somewhere and not being played. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.
There is a small problem with the drums, but I believe it's down to the miking, not the playing - personally, I can't imagine there ever being a problem with Allan Ganley. There's an STC 4038 ribbon microphone next to the hi-hat, and it seems to be dominating the mix.
Excellent archive footage. Jimmy Deuchar used to run regular jazz sessions on Sundays at a place called "The Sands" in Broughty Ferry, Dundee (his home town)in the early 80's. I went along every week. He even got Ronnie Scott to come up for a gig. A great time had by all!!
Tubby Hayes...he could knock spots off a lot of the US tenor players, even if he was with us today. What a formidable, effortless technique. Jimmy was great too.
Fantastic! What a treat to see Jimmy Deuchar and Tubby Hayes - especially burning away at that tempo! Tubby's exuberance, leaning back and letting rip all that wonderful bop... cool as a box of frogs!
Jimmy Deuchar, what a player........
and Tubby too!
I am in Jazz heaven
doggiedearest 2 months ago
Is Tubby the fat guy?
Schenkerflyingv 3 months ago
Totally insane playing! Thanks for this brilliant upload.
mjazz234 3 months ago
Ronnie Ross on tenor - very confusing!
MAJORSNODGRASS 5 months ago
These limeys really know how to play. Equals or betters any American band I've heard, and I'm a yank.
acfinney1 6 months ago
Tubbs is in the Premier League of sax men.
marmiteboy99 7 months ago
Eccezionale!!!! non da tutti conosciuto The little ....Big Tubby. Bravo at full speed.
BennyMax37 9 months ago
BRAVO
leoncioviolin 9 months ago
What I intended to say was Tubby truly deserves to be mentioned along with the likes of Rollins, Coltrane ....it's hard to imagine anyone going toe to toe with Tubby on this one!
sirtubbyhayes 11 months ago
Tubby was a true phenom.....as good or great as tenor playerve
sirtubbyhayes 11 months ago
-Great track. Tubby Hayes always has something new to say.-Love his Big Band sound.
Josie5100 1 year ago
Humph too! Cool! :-)
CarolNo15 1 year ago
Jimmy Deuchar, legend!
sewitt60 2 years ago
I was discussing this clip with John Critchinson at the Bull's Head the other day, in the course of a conversation about Harry South, Harold McNair, Joe Harriott and Terry Shannon. (As the Critch wryly commented, "Ou sont les neiges d'antan?")
We both agreed that stylistically it's an interesting compromise between the modal-pastoralism of Vaughan Williams and the advanced harmonic syntax of middle-period Justin Timberlake (with just the faintest trace of the original Fivepenny Piece).
JekyllBoote 2 years ago
Do you remember the evening when Bil le Sage, Bobby Wellins and Art went round to the 100 Club mobhanded? He had 130 stone waiting outside in the back of the Commer van in the days before double yellow lines. He reckoned that Simon Dee was trying to muscle in on the Chinese there. As we now know it was Cliff Michelmore and Judith Chalmers. It all ended pleasantly enough with Bill ordering his usual Beef Ho Fun. Wellins ordered a 76 and a 103 but left before eating it and of course didn't pay.
cccustard 2 years ago
Hello Charles - long time no drink! I do not recall that guy's name but he was alwaysknown simply as 'The Gasman'. Wasn't he involved with that string of 'nail parlours' that Don Lusher ran along the Mile End? I seem to recall he was chummy with Don and Johnny and they all drank in The Vine.
switchgrunt 2 years ago
Actually, it was Lusher's wife Diane who ran the parlours. She was a hard woman but made the best Dundee cake this side of the West. I remember once her, Michael Garrick's wife and Blossom Dearie got into a fight over whether the cherries should be dusted in flour before putting them in the mix or not. Blossom said it unbalanced the cake if all the cherries sunk to the bottom. Shortly after that she took George Melly up to Newcastle for a gig.
cccustard 2 years ago
Jimmy D used to own all the school milk concessions from Yeading right the way to Ealing and Acton. It was the only way he could afford to play jazz. The only exception to that was that Alan Ganley owned the Featherstone Road milk, and dinners, in Southall, something he bought from Cleo Laine in about 1953 I think. Of course it all changed shortly after that once Pete got chummy with Johnny and the gasworks manager whose name I can't remember. Happy days.
cccustard 2 years ago
I'm sure the answer to my question is in here somewhere butttt who is the trumpet player???
shwizzy 2 years ago
Jimmy Deuchar, Scotland's finest jazzman to date.
mikemckv 2 years ago
@shwizzy
You probably know by now but it's Jimmy Deuchar.
mikemckv 1 year ago
By Jove! Smashing, Wot! Nut-cracking time and articulation. Well done, old pals, and next time give it a bit more willie!
saxslattern 2 years ago
Isn't it strange how it is hard (a complicated piece sure enough) even for geniuses like Hayes and Deuchar. The relief on their faces at the end is palpable.
mikemckv 3 years ago
@mikemckv
Of course it's a hard piece, even for Hayes and Deuchar. It's very, very fast!
You might as well find "strange" that a top powerlifter looks relieved after successfully squatting 1000lbs!
The fact that they can do it doesn't mean it's easy for them!
drwinkle101 2 years ago
Ganley is one of my favourite drummers. I didn't know he had passed away, I was just searching for any postings of him RIP
nurvrax 3 years ago
Alan Ganley was great - also check Tubby Down In The Village somone posted the track on here ...play it! then say wether people could swing here or not ,i dare you¬!!!
hankmobley 3 years ago
So very sad to report that the great drummer Allan Ganley passed away suddenly on Saturday 29th March 2008. He had turned 77 earlier this month. He will be terribly missed by his family, friends, associates, and a multitude of fans worldwide.
mykittykatmykittykat 3 years ago
my dad is in the audience shot at the end... so funny seeing him so young! LOL!
i also see a couple of people have mentioned Dick Morrissey... my uncle was lucky enough to play drums in his band. :D
xApolloniAx 3 years ago
I was fortunate enough to see Dick many times and he always had that swing, whether as a solo or with Jim Mullen, Peter King etc.
I've got photos of a rather worried looking Alan Barnes who can't believe he is sharing the same stage at Swanage in 1990.
STILLAVRIL1 3 years ago
This is absolutely one of the most fantastic performances I have been privileged to witness. Everyone in it, including the rhythm section, is truly outstanding. Can anyone tell me if this performance, i.e., "Suddenly Last Tuesday", is on one of Tubby Hayes' or Jimmy Deuchar"s CDs. If so, please tell me which one. Thank you.
cparet 3 years ago
This was recorded by the BBC for a programme called 'Jazz 625'.
A different version is available on LP/CD whatever.
Try searching Amazon.
stillavril 3 years ago
I agree with all the great players you've named, but how about the late Dick Morrissey?
Definition of swing? Two consecutive notes by Dick Morrissey.
STILLAVRIL1 4 years ago
Dick Morrissey deserves to be up there with all the others mentioned, his album,"Storm Warning" is a cracker.
jacdor 4 years ago
I am so pleased that several of you appreciate those great players around London in the 60s..I have traveled a fair amount around the jazz clubs of the USA and never have I found the consistent high standards that existed in London in that era... today...I am not there anymore so let us hear from someone who is..COURTENAYJAZZ.
courtenayjazz 4 years ago
Well, the finest has to be Peter King, Alan Barnes, Pete Long, NYJO are still turning out fantastic players too.
stillavril 3 years ago
I saw Tubby ....Jimmy..Alan etc many many times all over London,they were always superb. In my opinion Tubby was one of the greatest tenor players of all time..we lost Tubby far too soon. I still play his recordings almost every day.How underrated these British cats were but not anymore.
courtenayjazz 4 years ago
courtenayjazz; I grew up in London during the 60's. I've also seen some of the finest American sax players like Stitt, Dexter & Rollins. There were times when i would've put Tubby high above any American player. "Awesome" is a word that is overused these days and applied to everyone who is mediocre but Hayes was TRULY awesome. I also thought Joe Harriott was an astounding player from the UK.(very underrated)
mojoelem 4 years ago
to Mojoelem....so glad you share my opinion on Tubby...Numero uno...did you get to see Harold Mc Nair ?? wonderful altoist and Yes..Joe Harriot was wonderful...Courtenayjazz.
saradavies17 4 years ago
saradavies17; Yes, i was fortunate to've seen McNair, Harry Beckett, Wilton Gaynor,Graham Collier, Michael Garrick,Amancio D'Silva, Don Rendell..and a saxman called Art Theman who i think is also a brain surgeon by day.
One of the teachers at my school was Dave Gelly, UK jazz journalist. This must all sound rather smug!(sorry)
mojoelem 4 years ago
Art Themen is a great saxophonist. I've seen him play a few times in the last few months. I think he's actually an orthopedic surgeon.
caspar1 4 years ago
caspar1; Art is great. Yes, thank you for correcting me..you are absolutely correct..Art is infact an orthopaedic surgeon. I met him a couple of times when he was with the Stan Tracey Quartet.
mojoelem 4 years ago
courtenay; Tubby was better than alot of American players. Infact i think they were amazed at his skill when he went over there. Apart from Peter King, there aren't too many Brit players that impress me today..maybe it's because of the hip-hop fusion scene which i just don't grab. The UK Bohemian 1960's was my era.
mojoelem 4 years ago
Can anyone tell me where I can get a chart for this,and also "Parisian Thoroughfare"?
Jimskykorsakov 4 years ago
Thanks. I really appreciated this. Saw him quite a few times in the late Sixties, but only with his quintet. My first real experience of good live jazz. He was brilliant!
MrNipley 4 years ago
TUBBY HAYES...... WOOOW !
Laanen 4 years ago
I've never heard of that great trumpetman; shame on me, I know my history, from Bix to....I like Tubby Hayes, Dutch tenor Toon van Vliet; Barney Wilen and Bobby Jaspar
wietsk2 4 years ago
I used to have a recording of this session. It was recorded for the BBC in the '60s and was put out on a jazz show which they(BBC)used to run at the time. I think the show was called something like Jazz 655 (those numbers could be wrong, though).
The session's other arrangements were equally as good : tunes such as In The Night, Blues for Bloody Moirag and Bud Powell's Parisien Thoroughfare.
The sessions also features Tubby on vibraphone and flute.
yririrooor 4 years ago
The show was Jazz 625.
yririrooor 4 years ago
My friend Wilber (uk) made my day again with this Tubby Hayes & Jimmy Deucher clip, wonderful.
Tubby played a lot at the 51 club in London in the 50`s
and was always a great draw, along with many other fine musicians.
Thanks Mate,
Pete (usa)
Skenton2 4 years ago
where's the drum solo ?
MrZol 4 years ago
I've been telling musicians here in Dallas, Texas how great Tubby Hayes is for years but I didn't know of Jimmy Deuchar! Not only is he a burnin' soloist but his arrangement of this tune is burnin'!! Does anyone know where I can Get some of those incredible arrangements of his?? The band is incredible on this cut!
scooppoop 4 years ago
I can possibly get you some of Deuchar's arrangements.
If I may ask,for what purpose ?
electrichaggis 4 years ago
Hi, thanks for answering. From the one example I heard on this video, I think Jimmy Deuchar's arrangements would be great fun to play. I am a master's student at a university here that has nine big bands, so they have a pretty extensive library but none of Deuchar's arrangements. I hope the musicians in G.B. are playing his stuff. I hate to think of arrangements like the one on this video gathering dust somewhere and not being played. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.
scooppoop 4 years ago
Hi, this is Simon Deuchar. Give me a call at 818-309-3536. I would be more than happy to disucss this with you. Thanks.
khriskhris007 4 years ago
Pete King there playing tenor.Drummer sounded terrible like banging rivets into a ships hull!
MAJORSNODGRASS 5 years ago
There is a small problem with the drums, but I believe it's down to the miking, not the playing - personally, I can't imagine there ever being a problem with Allan Ganley. There's an STC 4038 ribbon microphone next to the hi-hat, and it seems to be dominating the mix.
Cheeseford 4 years ago 2
@MAJORSNODGRASS No, the tenor player is Tubby Hayes
mjhs301242 5 months ago
Yes, great Jimmy Deuchar. Funny how the audience looked so bloody miserable!
mikeos1 5 years ago
Superb from beginning to end (and nice to see a young and impossibly hip Humph).
Pallikari 5 years ago
Excellent archive footage. Jimmy Deuchar used to run regular jazz sessions on Sundays at a place called "The Sands" in Broughty Ferry, Dundee (his home town)in the early 80's. I went along every week. He even got Ronnie Scott to come up for a gig. A great time had by all!!
gginmotion 5 years ago
Tubby Hayes...he could knock spots off a lot of the US tenor players, even if he was with us today. What a formidable, effortless technique. Jimmy was great too.
mickysax1 5 years ago
Always loved Tubbs, as everyone should!! But, isn't Jimmy Deuchar great too?
bobgreen623 5 years ago
Fantastic! What a treat to see Jimmy Deuchar and Tubby Hayes - especially burning away at that tempo! Tubby's exuberance, leaning back and letting rip all that wonderful bop... cool as a box of frogs!
keith2616 5 years ago
No, the bass player is Freddie Logan.
Cheeseford 5 years ago
Yeah!
Check those Boppers out!!
Anyone know who the personal is?
Is theat a young Ron Mathewson on Bass?
diddidodd 5 years ago
Great stuff! Tubby was one of the best.
pixaninny 5 years ago
My word, Old Bean, what a fabulous clip! Thankyou so much! I love Tubby Hayes! Any Dick Morrissey???
chuckdee121 5 years ago