Alveda King Abortion Testimony at Supreme Court - 1/22/08

[TheScoobie1313]

DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING WAS PRO-CHOICE!!!!!!!! research it...

[Poochalot]

Alveda King has had 2 abortions, and yet she wants to prevent other women from having the same choice she did; she is a hypocrite.

[illmaticwolf]

I'm pro-choice not pro-kill a baby there is a difference I don't think anyone in their right mind is pro-abortion

[mdsarge86]

Amen sister King!!! I cant stand when people call it "tissue" or "fetus" everyone needs to know that this is a HUMAN LIFE!! I can understand a woman wanting the right to choose what happens to there body, but do they really have the right to decide what happens to there unborn child's life? So funny how we will Fry someone who kills there baby after 9mos and 1 day (after birth) but do nothing at 8mo 29dys theres something inherently wrong about that.

[Sueezee1]

@mdsarge86 says: I cant stand when people call it "tissue" or "fetus"

~~~~~~~~~ Thats because youre ignorant and dont know that it IS a fetus and it IS made up of tissue...just like you are. Why do you hate what fetuses are made up of? Brain tissue, skin tissue, liver tissue etc etc... I think its amazing.

[Sueezee1]

@mdsarge86 says: but do they really have the right to decide what happens to there unborn child's life?

~~~~~~~

YES, they do!! Did you sleep through R v W???

[dragonpat666]

how can she blame the abortion on her stress and divorce when she did not even know she had one? another thing, her doctor was a CRIMINAL not an abortion doctor... her case has nothing to do with prochoice. shes dealing with a criminal doctor.

[Wlerin]

@dragonpat666

Ever heard of microchimerism?

[dragonpat666]

@Wlerin no. and?

[dragonpat666]

you regret your abortions alveda, so the hell what! most women do but over half of those women go on to get another one. i can understand you encouraging women to birth but trying to make women give birth? illegalizing abortion will do nothing but oppress women. you are NOT helping womens cause.

[Poochalot]

@dragonpat666 I couldn't have said that better myself, making abortion illegal takes away a womans choice concerning her own body.

[ScottMacFie]

As a white Christian, and Brother in Christ, this woman is filled with the Holy Spirit and she speaks the truth. America should turn away from our sinful nature and respect the truth as spoken here by this woman.

[PALOMITA694]

ANTI-CHOICE= WOMEN OPPRESSION

[PALOMITA694]

There is no best there is no worst there is only the thruth and the thruth is that we need freedom of choice to be considered free and not slaves.

[elegantlywasted1000]

King is my fucking hero.

[PALOMITA694]

IF YOU THINK THAT SLAVERY IS WRONG THEN WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO ENSLAVE WOMEN TO UNWANTED PREGNANCY.

[elegantlywasted1000]

@PALOMITA694 is that the best the abortion industry's marketing & PR dept could come up with?

[ScottMacFie]

@PALOMITA694: You are depriving the child of the life he or she had a right to have, once conceived. Slavery denied human rights to human beings, as does abortion. It's that simple. Women's rights advocates (which is a ridiculous terms), KNOW it is a "life", and refer to the unborn as a "baby" in the same "health clinics" . YOU KNOW IT iS WRONG.

[PALOMITA694]

@ScottMacFie You have to understand one thing: ILLEGAL ABORTION KILLS WOMEN. A human fetus is just a fetus no matter what its gender, but a woman could be your mother, your sister, your wife, your daughter, your best friend, your aunt or any other woman dear to you. Think about that

[ScottMacFie]

@PALOMITA694: I do understand, situations that are clearly about the mother's health (as in imminent death or likelihood of her death) are one thing, but that gets broadened to mean any circumstance she sees fit. It's always back to the 'coat-hanger' argument. Btw, in this country, your son, nephews, grandson, etc, NONE of them has a SINGLE LEGAL RIGHT to a child they create. They can be forced to pay CS for a "child" they don't "want", but a woman can murder ANY child of of your family.

[PALOMITA694]

@ScottMacFie Who is the one pregnant? Whose body will be changed? Who has to go throgh labor pain? The woman. No one but the woman can decide.

[DeanClark68]

Thank-you Alveda King for your story. Every baby deserves the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness!!!

[Poochalot]

It's fine if you want to have your baby, but it shouldn't be illegal to have an abortion.

[1stzookid]

Alveda, You are such a Blessing. I almost had an abortion in 1974. I was not saved, but God, Thank God, I had a daughter and she is my only child. I wish all girls and women could see this before making a decision on abortion.

[1stzookid]

Alveda, You are such a blessing. This should be shown to all young girls and women before abortions. God Bless You.

[vechorik]

Dr. Alveda King is the bravest woman I know. She knows how to speak from truth. She is doing more to unite people of color than Al Sharpton, NAACP and Jessie Jackson combined. This woman knows the meaning of the word "forgiveness."

[getDun2012]

fuck this housenigger bad news devil we dont give a shit about her last name

[229lulu]

to 343Jeannie-My grandfather was an OB/GYN during this time period and it was not uncommon for this to happen... especialy to poor and minority women. In their arrogance, these doctors belived they were working in the best interest of their patients. It was also not uncommon for them to perform tubal ligation after delivering a baby to a poor or minority woman. Don't think that it didn't happen, it did and it was common and excepted.

[84mrh]

Thank you for sharing your story, you are touching so many lives. The danger of abortion needs to be told. God bless you and may you ride for freedom for the unborn forever.

[flowergirl119]

Thank you Dr. Alveda King for your powerful testimony. This is the first time I have ever "met" you and i am so grateful to hear you proclaim Jesus is the true Savior. I used to be a "pro-abortion" advocate. But after hearing my 1st baby's heartbeat at 8 weeks, it was crystal clear that God had blessed me with a human being...my first baby girl. Now i see abortion as killing (and at times even murder). As hard as that sounds, that is what it is.

[343Jeannie]

I feel the same way you do about abortion, buuutttt, admit it!!! Admit you had two abortions and stop blaming others for it. Thank God you finally became a mother, you deserve that but please stop blaming others, you're to blame too xx

[343Jeannie]

Are you serious???!!!! There is no way on God's Green earth that this happened!!! What are you talking about? A doctor aborted your baby without your say so? No way!! I cringe to think that this could happen, my God, no way!

[dragonpat666]

every woman does not have negative experience she had;  woman please!!!

[pixie71981]

Wow! Amen sister! Preach it!!

[dacatholicbandorgan]

I have a dream that one day the Unborn will be able to breath and live the lives God willed them to.

[jrevilo88]

Tell the Truth Beloved! Having an abortion does at minimum sear/numbs our hearts. I can personally attest to that. It's no different than a mafia boss who orders the death of another person. After a while his conscience is not affected at all. Which makes a person, less than human. But only Jesus can ressurect our hearts from that place of death/darkness. He will forgive us when we humble ourselves and repent. Admit in our hearts that this is wrong to do. No matter what the law says.

[shannonsurreal]

@jrevilo88 yeah true pro choice people say it's not a human while it's in the womb but when a prego women gets murdered they say they killed to people : / that is messed up! pro life!!!!!

[Sueezee1]

@jrevilo88 says: Having an abortion does at minimum sear/numbs our hearts. I can personally attest to that.

~~~~~~~~~ YOU may be able to "attest" ot that and if you can, its because youre a weak whimpy women who has NO self assuredness in her decision making skills. Dont blame abortion for yOUR ignorance and "numbed heart". They way YOU decide to feel about your abortion is YOUR choice.

[savida34e]

I just heard of Miss Alveda this afternoon-thank you for posting her! I will be following her & this movement.

[DrDoubleZero]

umm, the pursiut of happiness, abortion takes that away...no. everyone is different, when it comes to happiness its not about you think is right, its what you want. having happiness means you have what you want. so if a woman wants an abortion you would say her having the abortion would make her happy?

thats stupid logic.

[ERNIE6274]

I use the famous quote from Alveda King on my voice-mail....i.e. "The greatest civil rights movement is to overturn Roe v. Wade." Search my testimony under my name..."Ernestine Standberry" in re the abortions I've had!!

Ms. "E", Director of the International Prolife Federation, 832 W. 68th Street, Chicago, IL 60621

[dovecry2]

Hey Alveda - an ex-Oper Outcry state leader (but Called til the end here) - it was an honor to speak alongside you at the US SUPREME COURT IN 2005 - Ill see ya in about a week - got something for you - oh yeah one more thing - The KING name - You wear it well you are one gutsy lady full of courage!

[dovecry2]

Hey Alveda - an Oper Outcry state leader here - it was an honor to speak alongside you at the US SUPREME COURT IN 2005 - Ill see ya in about a week - got something for you - oh yeah one more thing - The KING name - You wear it well you are one gutsy lady full of courage!

[dmony1234]

Praise God, He is always good to us!!

[madandmel15]

I love her! She knows all about Margaret Sanger, I'm sure.

[BenAliGtor]

"She knows all about Margaret Sanger, I'm sure. "

Except that her uncle, Martin Luther King Jr., had nothing but praise for Sanger and her work when he was alive. Of course, he wasn't on the payroll of a right wing pressure group, was he?

[sugalove66]

Martin Luther King jr. wasn't aware of Margaret Sanger's eugenist agenda with planned parenthood. Also, he received the award in 1966, a time when abortion was illegal and planned parenthood claimed to be against it. The organization even noted that "abortion kills the life of a baby after it has begun".

Martin Luther King jr. was AGAINST abortion, but he was for contraception.

[BenAliGtor]

"Martin Luther King jr. wasn't aware of Margaret Sanger's eugenist agenda with planned parenthood."

"Wasn't aware", or chose to overlook false accusations?

"Martin Luther King jr. was AGAINST abortion, but he was for contraception. "

Cite a single occasion in either a writing or a public speech, in which King explicitly mentioned "abortion".

[sugalove66]

"'Wasn't aware', or chose to overlook false accusations?"

Are you choosing to overlook the obvious, because it does not complement your ideas too well? Sanger used prominent figures in the Black community as catalysts in her scheme to diminish the Black race. By the way, these facts were not made public during their time, so how could he choose to "overlook false accusations"?

[sueezee]

sugar:Sanger used prominent figures in the Black community as catalysts in her scheme to diminish the Black race hahahha, you are a hoot!!! The Amsterdam News (one of the leading black weekly newspapers for most of the 20th century), the Abyssinian Baptist Church( all black church), the Urban League (org for the empowerment of blacks) WERE ALL BEHIND HER,, ASKING FOR HER HELP You must have VERY low self esteem to lie so much.

[sugalove66]

"Cite a single occasion in either a writing or a public speech, in which King explicitly mentioned "abortion"."

"...the next thing we must be concerned about if we are to have peace on earth and good will toward men is the nonviolent affirmation of the sacredness of all human life.Man is more than a tiny vagary of whirling electrons or a wisp of smoke from a limitless smoldering. Man is a child of God, made in His image, and therefore must be respected as such."

- MLK jr.

CBC Christmas Eve 1967

[BenAliGtor]

"- MLK jr.

CBC Christmas Eve 1967"

Abortion is not mentioned. Case closed.

[ariaane]

You've refuted NOTHING. Do a google search and you will find numerous sorurces refuting your false allegation that MLK was pro abortion.

[ariaane]

Well said, Suga. I have had this very same debate with those who make claims that MLK was for abortion.

He had no knowledge of Sanger and her intentions as they had not 'come out of the closet' about being pro abortion.

[sueezee]

sug:the next thing we must be concerned about if we are to have peace on earth and good will toward men is the nonviolent affirmation of the sacredness of all human life.Man is more than a tiny vagary of whirling electrons or a wisp of smoke from a limitless smoldering. Man is a child of God, made in His image, and therefore must be respected as such."

- MLK jr. LIAR...where is abortion mentioned there? You even lie about what is right in front of our faces. Unbelievable!

[sugalove66]

Wow You again! You have a lot of time on your hands lol, but then again you're slightly entertaining...you're stupidity, that is lol

So, let me guess. Hypothetically, If I referred to an animal-in one of my posts- as something with feathers, a beak and that quacks, you'd only know it was a duck if I clearly stated it was?

[sugalove66]

He referred to abortion in the part of the speech I cited at the Ebenezer Baptist Church on Christmas Eve in 1967. He did not "explicitly" mention abortion, but if you want to get into semantics, go right ahead! lol

[sueezee]

sugar:Martin Luther King jr. wasn't aware of Margaret Sanger's eugenist agenda with planned parenthood. he received the award in 1966 hahahahahahah,,,,,hahahahahhah­ah. Sanger ideas of eugenics took place int he 1930's. are you saying King hadnt heard of them in 66?????????

sug:Martin Luther King jr. was AGAINST abortion, but he was for contraception SO was Sanger. What an iidot you are.

[sugalove66]

You are only embarrassing yourself! As amusing as you are, this is going to be the last time I waste even a second on you, but then again, you do say some pretty foolish things. So....

"hahahahahahah,,,,,hahahahahha­h ah. Sanger ideas of eugenics took place int he 1930's. are you saying King hadnt heard of them in 66?????????"

LOL So, if he HAD heard of her "ideas of eugenics", then logically, why would a civil rights trailblazer accept an award on her and her organization's behalf?

[sugalove66]

"SO was Sanger. What an iidot you are."

When did I say she, herself, was for abortion? If anything, you just acknowledged that Martin Luther King Jr. was against it lol

I would love to call you an idiot, but that would just be an insult to the "idiot population".

[juliaisafilmbuff]

She is merely capitalizing on the fact that she's Dr. King's niece. If that wasn't the case she'd be no where.

[Quantanthead]

FilmBuff..She is doing what she is doing to help prevent other women from making the same mistakes that she made. If the name "King" gives her a greater platform to help others than more power to her. I doubt that she is capitalizing off this. Even if she is, what businss is that of yours. What is it with the left and class envy? It is probably a calling to her much more so than a means to cash in on who she is and her past. I'd stick to buffing your films and your classes on socialism. Thanks

[jbruaustin]

One more comment: The definition of life from Merriam-Webster dictionary...

1 c) an organismic state characterized by capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction

[jbruaustin]

to thatcher: The pro-life movement isn't simply religious rhetoric. It is reality. DNA testing reveals that there is a unique human life inside of every human mother. You can only say it is part of your body if it only contains your own DNA. A heart beat is detected EIGHTEEN DAYS after conception. Brainwaves are detected 6 weeks after pregnancy. These are the facts, not just some religious rhetoric.

[thatcher88]

Then why is the consensus within the scientific community supportive of abortion?

[mtnprivy]

MONEY/Social acceptance/reaction against the religious right(war-mongers)/shallow thinking/rationalize own abortion(s).

[Quantanthead]

thatcher88..Consensus doesn't mean that something is automatically right. Remember Hitler and the nazis? If a group of highly informed and intelligent people who call themselves scientists decided that people who were over 50 years of age were no longer useful to society, would you agree with them? If the truth can set you free, then a lie can keep you in bondage. While the pro death crowd, in consensus, basks in the deaths of more innocent children the US loses more of its soul and goodness.

[thatcher88]

Should we accept the views of unqualified moralists who call people who disagree with them 'the pro death crowd', or the majority view of scientists uninfluenced by religious doctrine?

[Quantanthead]

You still couldn't bring yourself to answer the question about consensus and Hitler. I know "pro choice" sounds so much sweeter...hard to accept the truth of what you really believe isn't it. You take the time to listen to a testimony of how God changes a person's life and all you can do is mock it. I don't care if you accept my view. It is your theory of consensus I don't get. A baby torn from a woman's body is not religous doctrine. It is still murder no matter what the spin.

[thatcher88]

You easily critique consensus. Consensus, although obviously flawed, is the underpinning of democracy. Who determines what is morally, politically right or wrong? If you disregard the consensus, then you impose your own subjective beliefs on the majority. Hitler was elected, and he removed consensus when he imposed one party, and stopped elections. Are you advocating that we do not listen to the consensus because what they are saying isn't acceptable to your predetermined concepts and morals? ??

[Quantanthead]

At least you admit that consensus is flawed. If you didn't have so much contempt for God, religion or who determines morality your eyes might be opened so you could see. This may offend you but the Bible is what determines what is right or wrong. It's where much of this nations original laws came from. We as a nation have strayed from these truths and this is why we as a country are in the present dilemma. "The fool says within his heart that there is no God". Are you a fool?

[thatcher88]

America was built on secularism, not christianity. What right do you have to impose your your unfounded belief that the bible the sole, legal document on women who may not believe it, or have an altogether different interpretation. The existence of god cannot be proven beyond reasonable doubt in a legal or scientific context, and there are many religions- what makes your totally unprovable religion, an exclusive source of law! Yes, I am a fool, and hence, logical evidence is a fools game.

[Quantanthead]

They had better change the wording of all those monuments in Washington D.C. to help support your theory that the country was built on secularism. The existence of Israel should in some part prove Christianity as a provable religion. You know also from your very own conscience that God exists. I think I'll just agree with you for the sake of argument. Let's kill more babies, let's let the UN determine our future. To top it off we'll all meet at the Democratic convention to smoke pot legally.

[thatcher88]

Monuments? More significant than the constitution? Secularism is not a theory, it is the irrefutable system in which the United States was founded on. The constitution does not specify the need for adherence to any religion, and further states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". Therefore, the foundation legal document of the US prescribes secularism. The USA was hence founded on no specific religion, but on secularism.

[Quantanthead]

You win...you are much too smart for me. Good luck with your science,secularism and darwinism. I am sure they will all come in handy should you one day call upon them on your death bed. You have greater faith than I to believe what you believe. If you are right and I am wrong, then I will have lived a good life and lost nothing. If I am right and you are wrong, then you will have lost everything. What is it if you gain the whole world, but lose your own soul?

[thatcher88]

If you are right and I am wrong, then I will have lived a good life and lost nothing.- That is called Pascal's Wager. In response to this, Richard Dawkins said: "Suppose we grant that there is indeed some small chance that God exists. Nevertheless, it could be said that you will lead a better, fuller life if you bet on his not existing, than if you bet on his existing and therefore squander your precious time on worshipping him, sacrificing to him, fighting and dying for him, etc."

[Quantanthead]

"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness;but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. As it is written I will destroy the wisdom of the wise. So where does this leave the philosophers, the scholars and the world's brilliant debaters? God has made them all look foolish and has shown their wisdom to be useless nonsense. Since God in his wisdom saw to it that the world would never find him through human wisdom...1 Corinthians 1:18-21 THE BIBLE

[Quantanthead]

"For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. So when we preach Christ crucified, the Jews are offended, and the Gentiles say it's all nonsense. This foolish plan of God is far wiser than the wisest of human plans, and God's weakness is far stronger than the greatest of human strength." 1 Corinthians 1:21-(continued)THE BIBLE.

PS. Please give Richard Dawkins my regards.

[thatcher88]

What, in that quotation, can be proven beyond reasonable doubt?

[Quantanthead]

It appears that you will always have "reasonable doubt". If you are waiting for a sign to bring you beyond your doubt it's probably not going to happen. "blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." The reason it is called "faith" is because it cannot be proven through natural means. An adulterous generation looks for a sign...the just live by faith. You don't need to see the wind to know it's there. You don't need to see your brain to know you have one.

[thatcher88]

"It is called"faith" is because it cannot be proven through natural means- and therefore it cannot be considered truth or fact. As it cannot be proven, and is therefore not truth or fact, this limits what "faith" and bible may be used for. It cannot be seen as having equal status as science, and cannot be seen as credible in legal, political and medical health contexts as this form of faith is an irrational belief. "An adulterous generation"? You mean- dammed are those who think.

[Quantanthead]

"This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit...The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned" 1 Corinthians 2:13,14. Funny, I keep sending these scriptures and the words "fool" or "foolishness" keep coming up. I'd hate for the words of the Bible to call me a fool.

[Quantanthead]

Concerning science, in the 70's NASA scientists were worried about global cooling. Now they are worried about global warming. Which one is it? They are so smart!!! Concerning credibility in legal cases...why to people place their hands on a bible and swear an oath. Why were many of our original laws based on the Old Testamnet? As far as the adulterous generation goes those are the words of Jesus too. You have a problem with Jesus...not with me or my irrational belief.

[thatcher88]

How credible was religion when it insisted that the earth was flat? The use of a scientific method, a process of scrutiny and observation gives a higher credibility to scientific theories and explanations than what is written in a biblical doctrine, which are not subject to such scrutiny. Global cooling is an example only of an attempt to understand, and was never a widely accepted theory- but it did represent a milestone in our understanding of climatic science.

[thatcher88]

I do not understand why you continuously quote from the bible when it is not a credible document. It appears you are unable to separate tradition and contemporary science and law. Sure, the bible may be used in a court but in practice the court of today does not use or require doctrine in the bible for a ruling. You then seem to discredit science as having a lower credibility than suggested in your global cooling example. How credible was religion when it insisted that the earth was flat?

[Quantanthead]

One last email for you as I have to take my own medicine. "Avoid godless, foolish discussions with those who oppose you with their so called knowledge."("science" in the King James version). 1 Timothy 6:20 The Bible

Thanks for all the time you have taken in responding to me.

On a side note let me know should you have any good golf ball stories.

May you have peace in your life.

[madandmel15]

How can you prove that God does not exist? If you can prove this, I might listen to you.

[thatcher88]

It is a women's body- no law should force a women to go through the process of child birth. The concept that the baby is being murdered is purely fallacious religious rhetoric- the baby has not developed yet into a human being- and is not what we consider humanly alive. Although the effects of abortion impact tremendously on the women's psyche- she does not need a law deciding what she cannot mentally cope with, nor that she have to give birth- perhaps e with greater mental repercussions.

[TNTony]

You say "The concept that the baby is being murdered is purely fallacious religious rhetoric- the baby has not developed yet into a human being- and is not what we consider humanly alive." My question to you is this: what do you consider humanly alive? What standards do you use to determine human life? And how do you prove that?

[thatcher88]

The typical moral rhetoric made by Christians is to state that it is simply to difficult to determine what is, and what is not human. However, we must determine the difference between the potential for life, and actual life. Is a sperm a potential for life? Yes. But do we not kill millions of sperm? What about an undeveloped embryo that is simply a mass of unresponsive, undeveloped tissue. Religious persons, with moral based agendas, are not able to provide a credible scientific response.

[TNTony]

You did not answer my questions....

[mtnprivy]

It is not the woman's body alone, but that of another also. It is not the woman who needs this law, but the unborn child. The world does not revolve around selfish pregnant women. Others have rights too. It is true, however, that if pregnant women respected the life within them, then they would not need a law requiring they do the RIGHT THING. Abortion because of economic hardship is especially selfish. Quality of life is not about money. I and many have grown up poor but happy.

[thatcher88]

"Selfish pregnent women".

"Abortion because of economic hardship is especially selfish".

Who determines, Bruce, what "the RIGHT THING" is? What right do you have to impose your religious beliefs on a women who does not share them and force her, against her will, to go through an unwanted childbirth. Women do not go through abotion because they are selfish. They seek abortion so they can protect their health mentally and physically, but also to exercise THEIR right to control THEIR bodies.

[Quantanthead]

Seems Obama is not the only one that can't figure out when a baby becomes a baby. I guess those pictures that I have seen of arms and legs on the ultrasound are simply fallacious religious rhetoric...a figment of my imagination. I don't think the baby feels the same way as it is having scissors jabbed through the back of its head to suddenly end its life. You've allowed the potential for truth in your life to be clouded by murderous so called scientific theory. May you one day know the truth.

[madandmel15]

Don't make the baby if you don't want it. It's simple.

[jianniestrong]

what a lovly lady

[videit1]

Great video, I am thankful for her courage and honesty. A refreshing change from the shrill pro-abortion crowd.

[videit1]

Great video, I am thankful for her courage and honesty. A refreshing change from the shrill pro-abortion crowd.

[ashmarie88]

This woman is amazing, thank you for uploading this!