Hey you guys have 115's,lol, ive been doing hundreds on incline for 2 years at my gym im at about 30 reps now... how many reps at 100's did you do before jumping to that, just wanna see where im at. Good job by the way i've been at it for ten years so I think your doing good man!
how old r u? I just hit 100 for 8 and than 115 for only 1 because when i was by myself i had to deadlift them up, and at my gym they are so long so i coudlnt get them on my legs. I should have gotten 3 but i had to use all my energy to readjust them. how old r u anyways?
First, you're much stronger than I am; I'm 187lbs and I can't even max with 100lb dumbells. However, It seems like you're not bringing the dumbells low enough to maximize ROM and therefore get more muscle activation. Is the shorter ROM just what ur comfortable with or have you had injuries? Is it a leverage limitation b/c the weight is so heavy? I'm 187lbs and I can't even max with 100lb dumbells.
@TheRugbyidiot going any lower will cause injury more so with that heavy of a weight. I don't care if you are 100% healthy you should never go lower then the chest, you are just asking for shoulder trouble.
@TheRugbyidiot if he goes any lower he'll break his shoulder blades,lol. He's at 100 % perfect level for building his cheast any lower and your not working your cheast the muscle changes form and other muscles kick in, trust me!
thanks man, idk about hyperextension by going lower, but it will overstretch the joint capsule making your shoulder joint less stable and more prone to injury, hyperextension would come from doping lockouts too often...
Maybe u're right dude - but idk i'm stuck at 40KG incline today (each dumbell 40) and i cant go past it and some trainers said its because i didnt go low inuff and that i should go lower than 90 degreeas
@mikeb2086 beeeeep, wrong answer mate. exactly why he's not going all the way down is because the weight is to heavy to pull up again if he goes all the way down to his pecs. the incline presses are the best way to hit the upper chest muscles. Going all the way down means that you are in a good form and doing the proper R.O.M work.
so thats like 52 kg dumbbells..? 8 reps incline.. man all i can say is woow! id say im around your size/weight, but i have never gone that heavy on incline chest. i might be able to do that weight on flat bench if im feeling really strong. im worried ill injure my front delt. looked like u could have gone heavier. have u gone heavier on this exercise? i generally only go really heavy on flat bench press, squats, legpress and deadlift. can u give me some advice??
haha, yeah, hence the headphones, lol, i think i've only been to one gym that even played good music and that was powerhouse, they had old school metallica blasting, but that place got shut down cause the owner was dealing steroids or something like that
that sucks:/. its a shame gyms dont play better music. ive actually heard Povarotti at the gym i go to. amazing..lol. of course i wear headphones as well.
I have to go to the local YMCA gym, and they got jesus music in there half the time. Luckily when i go (noonish) no ones there, so i can just change the station
Do you find a significant difference in mass gains when using barbells vs. dumbbells? On a barbell I keep a fairly wide grip to eliminate shoulders and triceps, but afterwards my shoulders are on fire more than my chest. Is a barbell really a better mass gainer?
agreed, but I use the smith machine becuase of an unstable shoulder. OBviously you don't want to go to failure using a barbell unless you want to be decapitated.
whats the shoulder issue? even thopugh your shoulder is unstable, your gonna make it even more unstable by continuing to use the smith, not while your working out, but when your not working out, because your remobing the muscles normally used to stabilize out of the equation, remember too, when you lift there's a natural arc, nto a atraight up and down motion, meaning your altering the biomechanics of the joint, and your going to wear it out...
if anything use dumbells but go really light until you regain stability in your shoulder and slowly increase the weight, it'll be a slow process, but in the long run its much better for your shoulder than using the smith machine, keep using the smith machine and eventually you'll be requiring shoulder surgery...
I still use barbebells, dumbells, and machines from tiem to time, but for military presses, behind the neck press, and incline bench presses I prefer to do heavy weights with the smith. Not sure what the injury is - did something to it a few years ago, physio couldn't tell me what it definately is. I really just need to strengthen my rotator cuffs more to be honest.
Great form - great lift Billy! Question - I'm just a weekend warrior; I can do incline dumbell presses up to 90 lbs for 6 reps but when I flat barbell bench even just a plate each side my right shoulder hurts. I have n't flat benched in a couple of months. Is it a tendon problem? Any info is appreciated!
could be your rotator cuff, try doing dumbells for a while, if your not worried about bench press power, i'd even remove the exercise, since its overated anyway
Hi mate, try squeezing your shoulder blades together when benching. The bb is common for stretching the shit out of ligaments. By squeezing blades together you gain about 1-2 inches of distance for the bar to come down without your tendons stretching. Start light and slowly build up over 3-6 months and you will be benching again. It worked for me.
i was going about 2 seconds down, besides, my goal is maximal strength and power, not size, which means i should actually be cranking out reps a bit quicker, but still under control, go pick up a book before commenting on something you know nothing about...
know nothing about...thats a laugh, im taking a weight class in school, and i know nothing??? i know if you increase the ammount of time going down on ur reps it help muscle increase, which helps reduce indjuries from things you do, and the faster you go during a rep the more you can damage your tendons...so yeah, looks like i know nothing
taking a class?? NOW THAT'S A GOOD LAUGH, i'm a persoanl trainer and a performance enhancement specialist, and have been l;ifting since the age of 13, your just taking a fucking class, go fuck yourself...
you could have been doing it for 50 fucking years, it wouldnt matter because youve been doing it wrong, so go fuck yourself, fucking looser, think your fucking tought because you can lift weights fast, your pathetic
explain yourself, tell me EXACTLY why, lifting at a slow pace increases muscle mass, all you've been doing is making statements, you still haven't told me anything yet, let's just see how much you know, before i start writing essays..
why exactly should i explain anything at all to you??? you say your a persoanl trainer and a performance enhancement specialist, so you should know yourself
ok smart ass, depending on your goals depends on what intensity you train, whether it be size, strength, performance etc, for hypertrophy, its best to keep the rep range between 8 and 12 reps, at a tempo of 2-0-2, with 60 to 90 seconds of rest between sets to keep a high volume of blood going to the muscle, creating an anobolic environment, however one thing you need to remember, is that your body adapt to how you train it
you also must realise that your body plateaus after a certain point in time, reaching its natural peaks every 6 to 8 weeks, so you should train it to never fully adapt, if you follow a 3 phase system of stabilisation, strength and power or maximal strength
stabilization involves a rep range of 12 to 15 reps, at a 3-2-2 tempo, with 30 to 45 seconds of rest, while doing more core based exercises to build a strong foundation, ie stability ball presses, single arm dumbell presses etc, this should be performed for a month, and can be supersetted with traditional strength training exercises
hyptrophy would be next falling into the strength phase, hypertrophy in simple terms is muscle growth, best done at a 2-0-2 tempo, with 8 to 12 reps, at 60 to 90 seconds rest between sets, but realistically the 8 to 12 reps is more of a guidline, hypertrophy is best achieved at 30 to 45 seconds time under tension, but if you break 2-0-2 down(a 4 second rep) and multiply it by 8 to 12 reps, you get 32 to 48 seoonds
lastly would be a power or maximal strength phase, power ands strength are confused all the time, power is the ability to exert maximal force in the shortest time, while strength is the ability to exert force against external resistance, during this phase the tempo is x-x-x(as fast as you can control) while staying in a rep range of 1 to 6, now if your goal is not maximal strength, you don't have to do this phase, you can cycle in and out of the first 2 phases
now obviously since i was recording this i was kinda showing off to a degree, but if you notice, my negatives were still between 1.5 to 2 seconds so the weight was still being lifted in a smooth controlled manner, there was absolutely nothing wrong with the speed i was lifting the weights at, you made it sound like i was flinging weights up and down without any control, i hope this explains shit for you
ok so i'm supposed to lower the weight at 3 seconds, pause for 1, then lift for 4 seconds, that makes no sense, since when do you have a slower concentric portion of the movement than eccentric portion of the movement unless of course you hit a sticking point
btw, if you look at my newer videos i have one of me doing the 130s for 8 reps, and i'm about 50 pounds heavier 4 months later, so i must be doing something right
no, i think i pu it backwards, sorry, what i learned to do was raise for 3 seconds, hold for one and lower for 4 seconds. im osrry but its verry late where i am, im going to bed and if you want we can continue in the morning...goodnight
oh ok, yeah tempo counts run eccentric-isometric-concentric, even though some exercises differ, the count is still standard, like the bench press as opposed to the dumbell bench press, the described counts are written the same way, even though nech pressing you start by lowering, and dumbell you start by lifting, but the tempo count is still written in the same order
52kgs?? what.... but how?
kirkoswald21 3 months ago
how do i get big like u? im 155 right now 5' 11'' im tryin to get to 170-175
bboydjoe 7 months ago
nice going full range plus the tats just makes u cooler
crzyp852 8 months ago
Whats the incline on your bench?
jc220229 9 months ago
juiced and tatted. thats the way to be. ive been that way my whole life. respect .
wolfpackforlife 9 months ago
raw power dude... nicely done
thetimeofday591 1 year ago
Hey you guys have 115's,lol, ive been doing hundreds on incline for 2 years at my gym im at about 30 reps now... how many reps at 100's did you do before jumping to that, just wanna see where im at. Good job by the way i've been at it for ten years so I think your doing good man!
krastins777 1 year ago
by arching your back like that you technically doing a bench press, not incline.
TheMightyLu 1 year ago
8reps 115lbs. great Job!
GoodPump 1 year ago 8
how old r u? I just hit 100 for 8 and than 115 for only 1 because when i was by myself i had to deadlift them up, and at my gym they are so long so i coudlnt get them on my legs. I should have gotten 3 but i had to use all my energy to readjust them. how old r u anyways?
bright5086200 1 year ago
nice job ur pretty strong. its pretty funny my teacher is a beast i saw him repping 120s in the gym hes like stronger than any kid at our school.
vans981 1 year ago
How much did your sleeves cost ? :O been thinking for years now about getting propper sleeves and i find yours extremely sweet.
werm000nt 1 year ago
First, you're much stronger than I am; I'm 187lbs and I can't even max with 100lb dumbells. However, It seems like you're not bringing the dumbells low enough to maximize ROM and therefore get more muscle activation. Is the shorter ROM just what ur comfortable with or have you had injuries? Is it a leverage limitation b/c the weight is so heavy? I'm 187lbs and I can't even max with 100lb dumbells.
TheRugbyidiot 1 year ago
@TheRugbyidiot going any lower will cause injury more so with that heavy of a weight. I don't care if you are 100% healthy you should never go lower then the chest, you are just asking for shoulder trouble.
Morpheus7777777 1 year ago
@TheRugbyidiot if he goes any lower he'll break his shoulder blades,lol. He's at 100 % perfect level for building his cheast any lower and your not working your cheast the muscle changes form and other muscles kick in, trust me!
krastins777 1 year ago
@TheRugbyidiot Going lower will only cause hyper extension and cause injury, especially with that weight dude
Supplementreviewdude 9 months ago
thats some hardcore lifting music there. Jlo gets me so jacked
ripsaw111 2 years ago
WAITING FOR TONIGHT....
GweeGwee 2 years ago
broo ur hiting ur shoudlers mroe ... it's to inclien ..
tiana123123321 2 years ago
Impressive, 115 DB on incline you don't see that everyday.
ExtremistPullup 2 years ago
Strong reps. All good
hyperfighting 2 years ago
I agree with both of you.
Great Vid, Man.
bborntoofly7 2 years ago
Nice
em0213 2 years ago
good technique! Going lower will only cause hyper extension and cause injury. good job
mikeb2086 2 years ago 3
thanks man, idk about hyperextension by going lower, but it will overstretch the joint capsule making your shoulder joint less stable and more prone to injury, hyperextension would come from doping lockouts too often...
billy2918 2 years ago
Maybe u're right dude - but idk i'm stuck at 40KG incline today (each dumbell 40) and i cant go past it and some trainers said its because i didnt go low inuff and that i should go lower than 90 degreeas
muzimuzi 2 years ago
40kg, thats good. incline i can only do about 30kg
billyblue8 1 year ago
@mikeb2086 beeeeep, wrong answer mate. exactly why he's not going all the way down is because the weight is to heavy to pull up again if he goes all the way down to his pecs. the incline presses are the best way to hit the upper chest muscles. Going all the way down means that you are in a good form and doing the proper R.O.M work.
saaandberg 9 months ago
thats good my only critique would be to go just a little lower. not quite touch your chest but like an inch above.
acharris1991 2 years ago
so thats like 52 kg dumbbells..? 8 reps incline.. man all i can say is woow! id say im around your size/weight, but i have never gone that heavy on incline chest. i might be able to do that weight on flat bench if im feeling really strong. im worried ill injure my front delt. looked like u could have gone heavier. have u gone heavier on this exercise? i generally only go really heavy on flat bench press, squats, legpress and deadlift. can u give me some advice??
fullrange0fmovement 3 years ago
i have a video of me hitting 8 reps with 130 pound dumbells
billy2918 3 years ago
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chadney214 3 years ago
waiting for tonight aaaooouuu... hah.
dude that is good strength.
vindicator2008 3 years ago
i see your gym plays excellent music as well(sarcasm).
RyanLVMetal88 3 years ago
haha, yeah, hence the headphones, lol, i think i've only been to one gym that even played good music and that was powerhouse, they had old school metallica blasting, but that place got shut down cause the owner was dealing steroids or something like that
billy2918 3 years ago
that sucks:/. its a shame gyms dont play better music. ive actually heard Povarotti at the gym i go to. amazing..lol. of course i wear headphones as well.
RyanLVMetal88 3 years ago
@billy2918 I swear, it's the same at every gym with playing horrible workout music. I even heard "Tiny Dancer" today. Thank God for the Ipod.
evansrl3 1 year ago
I have to go to the local YMCA gym, and they got jesus music in there half the time. Luckily when i go (noonish) no ones there, so i can just change the station
attiron 3 years ago
@RyanLVMetal88 i think gym's are working with mp3 companies so they put shitty music in the gym so they force you to buy an mp3 player LOL
buster999121 7 months ago 2
Do you find a significant difference in mass gains when using barbells vs. dumbbells? On a barbell I keep a fairly wide grip to eliminate shoulders and triceps, but afterwards my shoulders are on fire more than my chest. Is a barbell really a better mass gainer?
oharmon 3 years ago
i find the dumbells better, because you have to recruit more muscle fibers in order to balance them
billy2918 3 years ago
Thanks alot.. Are barbell presses in your routine at all?
oharmon 3 years ago
i phase them in and out, at the moment they are not, i'll probably put the barbell presses back in in a few months
billy2918 3 years ago
dumbbells work alot better because you can go up to failure without a spotter
zkb24 3 years ago
agreed, but I use the smith machine becuase of an unstable shoulder. OBviously you don't want to go to failure using a barbell unless you want to be decapitated.
dangermousethesecond 3 years ago
whats the shoulder issue? even thopugh your shoulder is unstable, your gonna make it even more unstable by continuing to use the smith, not while your working out, but when your not working out, because your remobing the muscles normally used to stabilize out of the equation, remember too, when you lift there's a natural arc, nto a atraight up and down motion, meaning your altering the biomechanics of the joint, and your going to wear it out...
billy2918 3 years ago
if anything use dumbells but go really light until you regain stability in your shoulder and slowly increase the weight, it'll be a slow process, but in the long run its much better for your shoulder than using the smith machine, keep using the smith machine and eventually you'll be requiring shoulder surgery...
billy2918 3 years ago
I still use barbebells, dumbells, and machines from tiem to time, but for military presses, behind the neck press, and incline bench presses I prefer to do heavy weights with the smith. Not sure what the injury is - did something to it a few years ago, physio couldn't tell me what it definately is. I really just need to strengthen my rotator cuffs more to be honest.
dangermousethesecond 3 years ago
Great form - great lift Billy! Question - I'm just a weekend warrior; I can do incline dumbell presses up to 90 lbs for 6 reps but when I flat barbell bench even just a plate each side my right shoulder hurts. I have n't flat benched in a couple of months. Is it a tendon problem? Any info is appreciated!
humongojay 4 years ago
could be your rotator cuff, try doing dumbells for a while, if your not worried about bench press power, i'd even remove the exercise, since its overated anyway
billy2918 4 years ago
Hi mate, try squeezing your shoulder blades together when benching. The bb is common for stretching the shit out of ligaments. By squeezing blades together you gain about 1-2 inches of distance for the bar to come down without your tendons stretching. Start light and slowly build up over 3-6 months and you will be benching again. It worked for me.
rydogs99 3 years ago
little advice might wanna slow it down on the lowering part, it helps with muscle increase
dias1777777 4 years ago
i was going about 2 seconds down, besides, my goal is maximal strength and power, not size, which means i should actually be cranking out reps a bit quicker, but still under control, go pick up a book before commenting on something you know nothing about...
billy2918 4 years ago
know nothing about...thats a laugh, im taking a weight class in school, and i know nothing??? i know if you increase the ammount of time going down on ur reps it help muscle increase, which helps reduce indjuries from things you do, and the faster you go during a rep the more you can damage your tendons...so yeah, looks like i know nothing
dias1777777 4 years ago
taking a class?? NOW THAT'S A GOOD LAUGH, i'm a persoanl trainer and a performance enhancement specialist, and have been l;ifting since the age of 13, your just taking a fucking class, go fuck yourself...
billy2918 4 years ago
you could have been doing it for 50 fucking years, it wouldnt matter because youve been doing it wrong, so go fuck yourself, fucking looser, think your fucking tought because you can lift weights fast, your pathetic
dias1777777 4 years ago
explain yourself, tell me EXACTLY why, lifting at a slow pace increases muscle mass, all you've been doing is making statements, you still haven't told me anything yet, let's just see how much you know, before i start writing essays..
billy2918 4 years ago
why exactly should i explain anything at all to you??? you say your a persoanl trainer and a performance enhancement specialist, so you should know yourself
dias1777777 4 years ago
ok smart ass, depending on your goals depends on what intensity you train, whether it be size, strength, performance etc, for hypertrophy, its best to keep the rep range between 8 and 12 reps, at a tempo of 2-0-2, with 60 to 90 seconds of rest between sets to keep a high volume of blood going to the muscle, creating an anobolic environment, however one thing you need to remember, is that your body adapt to how you train it
billy2918 4 years ago
you also must realise that your body plateaus after a certain point in time, reaching its natural peaks every 6 to 8 weeks, so you should train it to never fully adapt, if you follow a 3 phase system of stabilisation, strength and power or maximal strength
billy2918 4 years ago
stabilization involves a rep range of 12 to 15 reps, at a 3-2-2 tempo, with 30 to 45 seconds of rest, while doing more core based exercises to build a strong foundation, ie stability ball presses, single arm dumbell presses etc, this should be performed for a month, and can be supersetted with traditional strength training exercises
billy2918 4 years ago
hyptrophy would be next falling into the strength phase, hypertrophy in simple terms is muscle growth, best done at a 2-0-2 tempo, with 8 to 12 reps, at 60 to 90 seconds rest between sets, but realistically the 8 to 12 reps is more of a guidline, hypertrophy is best achieved at 30 to 45 seconds time under tension, but if you break 2-0-2 down(a 4 second rep) and multiply it by 8 to 12 reps, you get 32 to 48 seoonds
billy2918 4 years ago
lastly would be a power or maximal strength phase, power ands strength are confused all the time, power is the ability to exert maximal force in the shortest time, while strength is the ability to exert force against external resistance, during this phase the tempo is x-x-x(as fast as you can control) while staying in a rep range of 1 to 6, now if your goal is not maximal strength, you don't have to do this phase, you can cycle in and out of the first 2 phases
billy2918 4 years ago
now obviously since i was recording this i was kinda showing off to a degree, but if you notice, my negatives were still between 1.5 to 2 seconds so the weight was still being lifted in a smooth controlled manner, there was absolutely nothing wrong with the speed i was lifting the weights at, you made it sound like i was flinging weights up and down without any control, i hope this explains shit for you
billy2918 4 years ago
you wanna know something, all that is in my books, the the timing that you have is different, its 3-1-4, in my books, other than that its the same
dias1777777 4 years ago
ok so i'm supposed to lower the weight at 3 seconds, pause for 1, then lift for 4 seconds, that makes no sense, since when do you have a slower concentric portion of the movement than eccentric portion of the movement unless of course you hit a sticking point
billy2918 4 years ago
btw, if you look at my newer videos i have one of me doing the 130s for 8 reps, and i'm about 50 pounds heavier 4 months later, so i must be doing something right
billy2918 4 years ago
no, i think i pu it backwards, sorry, what i learned to do was raise for 3 seconds, hold for one and lower for 4 seconds. im osrry but its verry late where i am, im going to bed and if you want we can continue in the morning...goodnight
dias1777777 4 years ago
oh ok, yeah tempo counts run eccentric-isometric-concentric, even though some exercises differ, the count is still standard, like the bench press as opposed to the dumbell bench press, the described counts are written the same way, even though nech pressing you start by lowering, and dumbell you start by lifting, but the tempo count is still written in the same order
billy2918 4 years ago
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jigga1188 4 years ago
its good if you know how to use it right...
billy2918 4 years ago
def steriods.....may not look like it...but the boost is there? nice tumor btw
mlb239 4 years ago
never took steroids, however, i've always been a fan of creatine...
billy2918 4 years ago