Hey people that is why it is called FAITH...not PROOF...my heart makes me sturdy and secure, and strong in my FAITH, I am Roman Catholic, CHRISTIAN, and I believe in God, in Jesus Christ....and nothing and nobody is going to change that...AMEN
You know what's funny, as an atheist I have fought against many a christian for years but you are one of the very few, the very few, that I support. You don't wish to truly impose, actually question and challenge and think of what you are and what you are doing. I could see you as an atheist but the way you are is all well and fine. I wish you the best and thank you for the video. It's good to know that at least you are knowledgeable in your search for your truth and your life, take it easy.
QuestionChrist: You say that the only way to 'salvation' is through Christ. What exactly does salvation mean to you? As an Atheists, I often here Christians say that I need to be saved, but I'm not sure what I need saving from. Is it hell, or is there something else? Also, you say that heaven and hell exist even if we don't believe in them. That seems a strange thing to say. I could say they don't exist even if Christians say they do - the statement would be just as valid.
Could you do a video about Religion vs. Spirituality?
I know there are a lot of people who won't subscribe to any spiritual belief because they "don't like organized religion," and if there were more ppl explaining the difference, something might click.
Becouse you will and have turn it into an attack on them. This is the reason I do not and never will trust a fundy. And see at 06:06 of this video you flat out say that regardless what you say your dambed to hell. The only change between you and other fundys is you say it with a smile on your face trying to hide what you have to say about us.
.. Thus, I am more likely to keep a more open mind than some of the other Pagans here on Youtube.
For now, thank you for trying to be open minded. I will watch your other videos and see how you behave. This is your time to prove your peaceful and loving intent, even if it's only to this Pagan woman.
... by so-called "Christians" like Shockawenow, who would rather mock us and then block and delete our responses. Considering that some of us have also encountered people like him in real life, I think a little suspicion is understandable.
Until the last year or so, I've kept my religious beliefs to myself. I haven't even had much contact with the greater Pagan community. In this way, I until I encountered Shockawenow, I hadn't had experience with this particular reaction to Pagans...
I have to admit, before I begin this reply, that I am still wary of you. You phrase your questions in a seemingly polite manner, but you make subtle insinuations that 'Well, if you can't take questions, you don't have a real faith'. However, I will take your claim of peaceful discussion at face value for now.
Now, as for the suspicion of my fellow Pagans... I think it's because so few Christians truly mean it in their own hearts when they begin discussions like this. We have also been burned...
I apologize. I acted like I spoke for all Pagans. I do not. It is but, my humble opinion. I wanted to bring to light some reasons there are so many negative comments in reference to your wanting dialogue.
Pete, I appreciate your honesty. Thank you. I agree that faith is something that should be tested and questions of one's own faith should asked. I, as you know, question everything and yes, including, peoples motives. However, I think that people of other faiths are a bit on the defensive because Christianity has done so much damage to so many. I also think alot of people don't want to dialogue with Christians because it's an excersize in futility. You won't change my mind, I won't change yours.
They need to make these boxes with more characters..lol. Christians rule the world, well the Western world anyway. Many Pagans are afraid of "coming out" because of Christians labeling them and literally in some parts of America they can destroy lives. That may not be you, but, as a Christian you know those types exist. If this were the late 1600's all of us Pagans would be rooted out and burned at the stake. So, much for loving your neighbor.
Christianity has destroyed thousands of cultures throughout the world and slaughtered millions of people in it's name. They have ostrisized millions of people who don't believe what they do. Forgive us for being a little leary of your intentions. We Pagans are trying to get back to what our ancestors believed before Christianity reared it's ugly head and destroyed our cultural and religious heritage.
When I was a devout Christian, I heard alot about how Christians are being persecuted by "the world". Cry about how unfair it is that Christian values are being lost. In reality, it's the Christians doing the persecuting. Hell, you can't even run for political office without some kind of Christian credentials. You have to understand our point of view. I question my faith, and will defend it if need be, the point is, it's deeply personal to me and I don't need to prove my faith to anyone.
How can an omnipotent being commit an act of sacrifice? Sacrifice by definition entails a loss. If Christ resurrected and rose into heaven, how was it even a sacrifice at all? What did God lose?
I know that you are trying. Unfortunatly, I am one that is Wiccan Cause at the end of the day.I don't believe in nor will I open my heart in that way again. Been there done that. You say there is a heaven and hell regardless what I may believe. Weell There are Gods and Goddesses regardless of what you believe.See it works both ways. Yea cheap shot. Anyways continue your quest. Luck to you with the mormon boys. Don't expect much. They really only understand very little. Wife is a exmormon.
I have a question, and let me perfectly honest, I will try to deconvert you.
How do you rationalize the age of the Earth when compared with what we know about geology and chemistry and physics when compared to what the bible says?
Though the bible talks about "days", I believe that it is quite possible that these days are larger blocks of time. Nowhere does it say it is a 24 hour period. Some people believe that it was actual 24 hour periods, but regardless, it is the fact that God DID create the world is what is most important. Thanks for your question!
You obviously think that God created the world. What do you base that on? In a world where Abiogenesis and Biology and Genetics and Evolution are common knowledge, what do you base that on?
Thanks for your question. I just don't have the faith that is needed to believe that all of the sudden all of the complexity of this world came out of nothing out of chance without a designer. For that, your faith is way stronger than mine.
LOL do you know what a straw-man is? It's when you tell someone what they believe. You just did that to me.
Anyway, nice try but perhaps you should ask a person what they believe instead of just assuming.
BTW you didn't answer the question, if you would like to ask me the same question I would be happy to answer it, but until then please go easy on the straw-men.
Wow ok, you still haven't answered my question but sure Ill give it a shot. The Earth formed through natural processes, carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen and other heavy metals combined over the course of several million millennia, the chemical bonds formed a mass, mass possesses gravity, which attracts more mass. eventually the Earth and all the planets (countless trillions of them) were formed.
You, me, the tree in your back yard even the squirrel in the tree in your back yard, along with every living thing on Earth is the product of natural phenomena. The very blood that pumps through your veins is witness to these events. The Iron in your body was created deep in the hearts of stars through nuclear fusion.
So again, you want me to believe that the iron in my body comes from stars in the universe and by whatever means it was transferred ontp the earth and then when I was formed from some random process, the iron was transferred again in my body? This is why I find it interesting how insistent people are that God couldn't have created the universe, but yet they will hold onto a theory that is harder to believe in than the possibility that a creator made both the star and people.
Ok iron comes from the stars in the universe but where does the universe come from? The universe was created by the same thing you and I were created by.
Check out this users videos "alwaysblazen" These videos are documentaries from the history channel, this same information is available everywhere, text books, libraries and easily accessible on-line.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you meant to ask "What is your position on how the UNIVERSE was created?" Now that is another matter entirely, and the answer is much easier: I don't know what was before the big bang and neither do you. The difference is that I'll wait to find out. I have no need to jump to conclusions. However there are several hypothesis about that as well.
Ok your turn, what do you base your creation belief on? I think I've been quite fair.
I was just asking because you wrote on one of your comments that you will "wait to find out". But like you said death comes to us all and it comes fast, so how long do you have to wait to find out?
Its funny to you because you are stuck on the same assumption except that there is not life after death, there is. If you don't find out by the time you die ( which no one knows their time), by then it will be to late.
I don't pretend I know that there is life after death and it only brings me closer to the truth that this life is meaningless apart from the truth.
'm sorry, I don't think I completely ignored your question. I base my belief in God on the teachings of the bible. But even without the bible, I believe that you can't have everything that exists in all it's complexity, and all it's beauty without a designer. So belief in God is through an intellectual design theory, and I figured out who God was through the teachings of Jesus. Sorry if I seemed evasive! God Bless!
Meloco, he didn't mean it as a straw man attack. His assumption that you were a Christian was reasonable. Christians may have to be more understanding of us, but Wiccans and Pagans (and even Christians who believe differently from other Christians - I don't know what religion you are, you don't list it on your Youtube profile) also have to be more patient with those Christians who are actually trying to understand.
I also appreciate your attitude. It's refreshing after seeing many less-than-noble responses to those who have left christianity.
I've left the faith, am very happy with that decision, yet understand the psyche of christians.
If you are interested in the honest and gentle opinions and experiences of someone who spent 30 years in christianity, just let me know. I'll do my best to give you my perspective.
I would love to hear your personal testimony about what happened to cause you to walk away. Please email me anytime to give me the full detail of your experience. And thanks for the compliment on my head! (Though I am a skin head in fashion alone, not ideology!)
Either your head is misshapen, or that's a terrible angle to place your camera.
austinwichita 6 months ago in playlist Give birth videos
Hey people that is why it is called FAITH...not PROOF...my heart makes me sturdy and secure, and strong in my FAITH, I am Roman Catholic, CHRISTIAN, and I believe in God, in Jesus Christ....and nothing and nobody is going to change that...AMEN
Sternlein4USA 6 months ago in playlist Give birth videos
do u also hate gays? pls answer xD
wizard101personguy99 6 months ago in playlist Give birth videos
It is not what you beleive that count it is what you know,Belief can be wrong, facts are alway right,you are confusing belief with knowledge. Thank;s
233yvan 1 year ago
You know what's funny, as an atheist I have fought against many a christian for years but you are one of the very few, the very few, that I support. You don't wish to truly impose, actually question and challenge and think of what you are and what you are doing. I could see you as an atheist but the way you are is all well and fine. I wish you the best and thank you for the video. It's good to know that at least you are knowledgeable in your search for your truth and your life, take it easy.
blinddoctorwho 1 year ago
QuestionChrist: You say that the only way to 'salvation' is through Christ. What exactly does salvation mean to you? As an Atheists, I often here Christians say that I need to be saved, but I'm not sure what I need saving from. Is it hell, or is there something else? Also, you say that heaven and hell exist even if we don't believe in them. That seems a strange thing to say. I could say they don't exist even if Christians say they do - the statement would be just as valid.
MrIcarusflysagain 2 years ago
Heaven and Hell does NOT require a wiccan to believe in it for it to exist.
bRadicalmagic1 2 years ago
REQUEST:
Could you do a video about Religion vs. Spirituality?
I know there are a lot of people who won't subscribe to any spiritual belief because they "don't like organized religion," and if there were more ppl explaining the difference, something might click.
SilentHillWren 2 years ago
nah! jesus is the way,the real truth.and the life! NO ONE comes to the father,EXCEPT,thru me.
there are a few sun gods out there.
there is only 1 truth,and 1 GOD.
ex:read ezeliek 8
gibsongold1970 2 years ago
jesus is an imitation of an egyptian sun god...
aconnecte 3 years ago
Keep up the good fight pete. Thanks for being a balanced to all the oposing opinions out there.
thomaspib 3 years ago
Pete...Awesome vid.
You know, for everyone who wants to "rationalize" their belief "systems", their "personal faith", or any other religious position, you MUST admit.
Either there IS a God, or there is NOT.
No middle ground.
I personally am CONVINCED that:
1) GOD is PISSED at humanity
2) GOD is PISSED at the people in California and throughout much of the U.S.
3) We WILL see his wrath, soon, not from a person, but something the ENTIRE WORLD WILL SEE as coming from heaven.
AmericanKnowItAll 3 years ago
I dunno..but I feel like singing..SUPERSTAR WHERE YOUR FROM HOWS IT GOING I KNOW YOU GOT A CLUE WHAT YOUR DOING!!!lol
Dinomightdude81 3 years ago
Becouse you will and have turn it into an attack on them. This is the reason I do not and never will trust a fundy. And see at 06:06 of this video you flat out say that regardless what you say your dambed to hell. The only change between you and other fundys is you say it with a smile on your face trying to hide what you have to say about us.
PaganRon 3 years ago
.. Thus, I am more likely to keep a more open mind than some of the other Pagans here on Youtube.
For now, thank you for trying to be open minded. I will watch your other videos and see how you behave. This is your time to prove your peaceful and loving intent, even if it's only to this Pagan woman.
EriNightwind 3 years ago
... by so-called "Christians" like Shockawenow, who would rather mock us and then block and delete our responses. Considering that some of us have also encountered people like him in real life, I think a little suspicion is understandable.
Until the last year or so, I've kept my religious beliefs to myself. I haven't even had much contact with the greater Pagan community. In this way, I until I encountered Shockawenow, I hadn't had experience with this particular reaction to Pagans...
EriNightwind 3 years ago
I have to admit, before I begin this reply, that I am still wary of you. You phrase your questions in a seemingly polite manner, but you make subtle insinuations that 'Well, if you can't take questions, you don't have a real faith'. However, I will take your claim of peaceful discussion at face value for now.
Now, as for the suspicion of my fellow Pagans... I think it's because so few Christians truly mean it in their own hearts when they begin discussions like this. We have also been burned...
EriNightwind 3 years ago
I apologize. I acted like I spoke for all Pagans. I do not. It is but, my humble opinion. I wanted to bring to light some reasons there are so many negative comments in reference to your wanting dialogue.
HergerSeamas 3 years ago
Pete, I appreciate your honesty. Thank you. I agree that faith is something that should be tested and questions of one's own faith should asked. I, as you know, question everything and yes, including, peoples motives. However, I think that people of other faiths are a bit on the defensive because Christianity has done so much damage to so many. I also think alot of people don't want to dialogue with Christians because it's an excersize in futility. You won't change my mind, I won't change yours.
HergerSeamas 3 years ago
They need to make these boxes with more characters..lol. Christians rule the world, well the Western world anyway. Many Pagans are afraid of "coming out" because of Christians labeling them and literally in some parts of America they can destroy lives. That may not be you, but, as a Christian you know those types exist. If this were the late 1600's all of us Pagans would be rooted out and burned at the stake. So, much for loving your neighbor.
HergerSeamas 3 years ago
Christianity has destroyed thousands of cultures throughout the world and slaughtered millions of people in it's name. They have ostrisized millions of people who don't believe what they do. Forgive us for being a little leary of your intentions. We Pagans are trying to get back to what our ancestors believed before Christianity reared it's ugly head and destroyed our cultural and religious heritage.
HergerSeamas 3 years ago
When I was a devout Christian, I heard alot about how Christians are being persecuted by "the world". Cry about how unfair it is that Christian values are being lost. In reality, it's the Christians doing the persecuting. Hell, you can't even run for political office without some kind of Christian credentials. You have to understand our point of view. I question my faith, and will defend it if need be, the point is, it's deeply personal to me and I don't need to prove my faith to anyone.
HergerSeamas 3 years ago
A question about Christ:
How can an omnipotent being commit an act of sacrifice? Sacrifice by definition entails a loss. If Christ resurrected and rose into heaven, how was it even a sacrifice at all? What did God lose?
darktango78 3 years ago
I know that you are trying. Unfortunatly, I am one that is Wiccan Cause at the end of the day.I don't believe in nor will I open my heart in that way again. Been there done that. You say there is a heaven and hell regardless what I may believe. Weell There are Gods and Goddesses regardless of what you believe.See it works both ways. Yea cheap shot. Anyways continue your quest. Luck to you with the mormon boys. Don't expect much. They really only understand very little. Wife is a exmormon.
dennisdeal 3 years ago
I have a question, and let me perfectly honest, I will try to deconvert you.
How do you rationalize the age of the Earth when compared with what we know about geology and chemistry and physics when compared to what the bible says?
MeIoco 3 years ago
Though the bible talks about "days", I believe that it is quite possible that these days are larger blocks of time. Nowhere does it say it is a 24 hour period. Some people believe that it was actual 24 hour periods, but regardless, it is the fact that God DID create the world is what is most important. Thanks for your question!
QuestionChrist 3 years ago
You obviously think that God created the world. What do you base that on? In a world where Abiogenesis and Biology and Genetics and Evolution are common knowledge, what do you base that on?
MeIoco 3 years ago
Thanks for your question. I just don't have the faith that is needed to believe that all of the sudden all of the complexity of this world came out of nothing out of chance without a designer. For that, your faith is way stronger than mine.
QuestionChrist 3 years ago
LOL do you know what a straw-man is? It's when you tell someone what they believe. You just did that to me.
Anyway, nice try but perhaps you should ask a person what they believe instead of just assuming.
BTW you didn't answer the question, if you would like to ask me the same question I would be happy to answer it, but until then please go easy on the straw-men.
MeIoco 3 years ago
You're right, my bad! I shouldn't assume, What is your position on how the world was created?
QuestionChrist 3 years ago
Wow ok, you still haven't answered my question but sure Ill give it a shot. The Earth formed through natural processes, carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen and other heavy metals combined over the course of several million millennia, the chemical bonds formed a mass, mass possesses gravity, which attracts more mass. eventually the Earth and all the planets (countless trillions of them) were formed.
MeIoco 3 years ago
You, me, the tree in your back yard even the squirrel in the tree in your back yard, along with every living thing on Earth is the product of natural phenomena. The very blood that pumps through your veins is witness to these events. The Iron in your body was created deep in the hearts of stars through nuclear fusion.
MeIoco 3 years ago
So again, you want me to believe that the iron in my body comes from stars in the universe and by whatever means it was transferred ontp the earth and then when I was formed from some random process, the iron was transferred again in my body? This is why I find it interesting how insistent people are that God couldn't have created the universe, but yet they will hold onto a theory that is harder to believe in than the possibility that a creator made both the star and people.
QuestionChrist 3 years ago
Ok iron comes from the stars in the universe but where does the universe come from? The universe was created by the same thing you and I were created by.
GetREALnThink 3 years ago
@GetREALnThink Who created God?
233yvan 1 year ago
@233yvan God is an infinite being, one of His kind. There is no one else like Him.
GetREALnThink 1 year ago
@GetREALnThink God is a invention of man!!!! sorry
233yvan 1 year ago
@233yvan Man is a creation of God!!!!!! sorry
GetREALnThink 1 year ago
@GetREALnThink Its your burden to prove it. and you can;t
233yvan 1 year ago
Check out this users videos "alwaysblazen" These videos are documentaries from the history channel, this same information is available everywhere, text books, libraries and easily accessible on-line.
MeIoco 3 years ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you meant to ask "What is your position on how the UNIVERSE was created?" Now that is another matter entirely, and the answer is much easier: I don't know what was before the big bang and neither do you. The difference is that I'll wait to find out. I have no need to jump to conclusions. However there are several hypothesis about that as well.
Ok your turn, what do you base your creation belief on? I think I've been quite fair.
MeIoco 3 years ago
How Long will you wait? Is time on your side? How much time do you have?
GetREALnThink 3 years ago
wait for what?
Death comes to us all, I don't sit around waiting for death, it will be upon me soon enough,
I also don't let it paralyze me with fear. Religion is based on fear, I'm not afraid to die, but I'm not going to rush it along either.
MeIoco 3 years ago
I was just asking because you wrote on one of your comments that you will "wait to find out". But like you said death comes to us all and it comes fast, so how long do you have to wait to find out?
GetREALnThink 3 years ago
lol you're stuck on the assumption that there is life after death, there isn't. If I don't find out by the time I die, then I'll never know.
I may wait until I die, after that I will wait no more, not because I will know the answer, but because "I" will not exist.
Like it or not, you will do the same thing. Pretending to have knowledge you do not actually posses, brings you no closer to the truth.
MeIoco 3 years ago
Its funny to you because you are stuck on the same assumption except that there is not life after death, there is. If you don't find out by the time you die ( which no one knows their time), by then it will be to late.
I don't pretend I know that there is life after death and it only brings me closer to the truth that this life is meaningless apart from the truth.
GetREALnThink 3 years ago
'm sorry, I don't think I completely ignored your question. I base my belief in God on the teachings of the bible. But even without the bible, I believe that you can't have everything that exists in all it's complexity, and all it's beauty without a designer. So belief in God is through an intellectual design theory, and I figured out who God was through the teachings of Jesus. Sorry if I seemed evasive! God Bless!
QuestionChrist 3 years ago
Meloco, he didn't mean it as a straw man attack. His assumption that you were a Christian was reasonable. Christians may have to be more understanding of us, but Wiccans and Pagans (and even Christians who believe differently from other Christians - I don't know what religion you are, you don't list it on your Youtube profile) also have to be more patient with those Christians who are actually trying to understand.
EriNightwind 3 years ago
Your in the wrong forum. Staying here will change your mind. Your not going to change any minds. People will change your mind.
owheydusoapsk 3 years ago
I'm glad you feel that way, hopefully you and I can test that theory!
QuestionChrist 3 years ago
Hey, as a fellow skin-head, I must say nice head.
I also appreciate your attitude. It's refreshing after seeing many less-than-noble responses to those who have left christianity.
I've left the faith, am very happy with that decision, yet understand the psyche of christians.
If you are interested in the honest and gentle opinions and experiences of someone who spent 30 years in christianity, just let me know. I'll do my best to give you my perspective.
philstilwell 3 years ago
I would love to hear your personal testimony about what happened to cause you to walk away. Please email me anytime to give me the full detail of your experience. And thanks for the compliment on my head! (Though I am a skin head in fashion alone, not ideology!)
QuestionChrist 3 years ago
don't piss off the EVANGELICALS, remember they are responsible for the WITCH trials!
omiolo 3 years ago