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  • freemicrosoftpoint[DOT]com is the best!

  • ok so youve simply plugged this into the mains, that cant be a good idea and i thought u needed a DC current for hydrogen production

  • All that open microphone time and you could say ONE wrod,  why is this, you could have been telling us about your idea????

  • try putting one on a lawn mower! HEEHEEHEE

  • I have made a cell also but some reason I am drawing more than 25 amps any thoughts on how to reduce it?

  • makis96 look for any shorts that may be in the cell. another way to reduce amps is to use this circuit, it works ive tried it

  • use less electrolyte in your water

  • To much electrolyte thats about it .

  • there are blueprints! Stan Meyer for example, has all of his patents online!

    truth is, this stuff ends up costing a lot of time and money to put together. Most people have neither of these. And the ones who do, usually want to turn some kind of profit from their hard work, and rightfully so. THAT is the American way!

    Unfortunately this technology will turn the economy on it's ass! many people don't want that to happen, including the inventors.

    I wish it were simpler man, I really do!

  • Tau is the time it takes to charge discharge a cap. It is referred to as the RC time constant.

    It takes 5 Tau ( 5 relevant time periods ) to "fully" charge/discharge a cap. The Cap will use 67% of the remaining voltage( until it's equal to input voltage or zero ) per Tau

    TO charge a cap to 10 volts

    R = 10 ohm C = 10 F

    Tau = R * C

    Using 10 and 10 you get a Tau of 100 so it'll take 500 seconds to fully discharge/charge any cap

  • very interesting..

    I just read something that says it theoretically takes FOREVER to fully charge a cap! however current draw is also determined via frequency and cap value.

    The caps in this video can NEVER fully charge anyway; they're rated @ 4 times the input voltage! This may also affect the time constant. hmmmm..

    thanks for the input!

  • in an RC circuit, voltage over R is Vr = Vin - Vcap. Vcap increases when being charged by current. So Vr decreases because Vcap increases, thus current decreases, so indeed theoretically it takes forever, because Vcap is aways lower than Vin because of R.

    Current decreases exponentially, charge increases exponentially, the speed is indeed depended on tau.

    mathematically:

    curent: Vin/R * e^(-t/ (RC) )

    charge: Vin-Vin*e^(-t/ (RC) )

    try to plot 'm in MS Powertoy Calculator

  • 110 V is the average voltage over time that comes out of a house circuit. It's peak is much higher ( 220 - 240 V, I think ).

    The power coming out of your wall socket is a Sine Wave. Also It's nice to know that this device runs light bulbs, and other loads, but can't you just plug them directly into the wall much easier?

    Voltage(V) = Current(I) * Resistance(R)

    R = V / I

    and

    I = V / R

    By decreasing the R you raise I while V remains the same. R also affects the charge time of your cap

  • 110V in the US, 220V in Europe

  • they're out there. but they're still keeping quiet. it's only a matter of time

  • Thats cool... tried a vacuum test??

  • don't have a pump.. yyyet. Apparently Bob Lazar, (yes THEE Bob Lazar !) sells amazing lab-grade vacuum pumps on his website at a good price. Gonna pick one up soon hopefully. (He also sell samples of U, as in the stuff that makes hair fall out), but we won't go there just yet.

  • Do you use ordenary tap water? looking forward to output tests! Nice work!

  • distilled h2o + sodium bicarbonate

  • Have you measured production? Can you wrap a 14awg wire around your cell to create a magnetic field(pulsing it), to line up the hydrogen and see if it makes more gas?? An MRI works the same way to create pictures in the body. High magnetic field only works on hydrogen molecules (odd enough)I wonder if it stabilizes the hydrogen or weakens the bond with the oxygen.

  • ahhhh i see you've read up the Boyce method. That's what he does to prep the plates. I know i've seen a video of water separation using only a HUGE horseshoe magnet. So to answer your question yes, future designs will incorporate magnetic devices as well.

    thatnks for the interest and stay tuned!

  • sweet...I believe the magnetic field has to encapsulate the cells, not just a "flow through" north south deal. ROCK ON!!

    T

  • look att my water cell..tube is the only way

  • So when are you gona hook up two of your water diodes half wave, and loose the bridge. Look maw all water. No electronic parts to burn up except the cap's.

  • that's what I'm talkin about! hell, I've even been considering water capacitors as well!

    thanks for the comments.

    stay tuned!

  • That's GREAT!! BIGGER PLATES!!! I am impressed. The traditional gas appliances are going to the junkyard soon :) Have you heard of induction heating??

    Keep it up...

    Todd

  • Damn, for the size of that thing its CRANKING out gas. Very interested to see gas output, because you said it doesn't heat up.

    Now you have me thinking its all Series-Cell from here on in! :=)

    --sirHHOax--

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