until bhutto's regime there were 167 madaris in pakistan. after zia ul haq, there were 140,000. very obvioulsly, most of them were given birth by ISI sponsored mullahs who then trained ppl with rigid minds. islamic education never had anything to do with it.
I feel it hard to agree with Ghamdi here. If Allah's plan was to turn a kid into a "Mussavir" "Shaer" "Adeeb" then WHO can stop the kid from becoming one? What difference would it make if you put the kid into a Maddrassa, or English medium School, or Harvard University or no school at all? Can ANYONE change Allah's plan?? No Mr Ghamdi, u got it wrong here.
Also, how can a kid acquire ALL the "Broad based" education that connects him with the society in ONLY 1st 12 yrs of his life ??
The man who denies the coming of the mahdi cannot be trusted wid any thing regarding our religion...This ghamdi so called scolar of islam did just that...
mr ghamdi is not a practical muslim, and there is no comparision to the knowledge of janabey ameen mufit naeem saheb...masha allah... i admire mufti saheb so much,,,, i met with him new york... he is my rolemodel...
I hold a lot of respect to both scholars but personally believe that Mr Ghamdi has gone a little off the track here, I firmly believe that a school set up is the BEST if true deeni taleem that teaches the lesson of tolerance and instills wisdom, plus the modern scientific and artistic education is rendered to our kids. A Madrassa with deeni taleem and regular school curriculum is better than just plane modern day English medium schools.
@shafiq11300 How can you say Ghamidi sahib is not practising Muslims. I know him very closely. He is very devout Muslim. He prays and fasts regularly and is very Mutaqqi person.
The difference between the two is insurmountable, Mufti is a living fossil, oblivious to the world around him. Ghamdi is a scholar who does not know how to talk to troglodytes. Mufti has to educate himself first to understand the needs of today to earn a living. A child should be prepared to earn a living first so that he/she can support a life. Muslims were thrown into dungeons some 250 years ago with bread thrown in. It is a cosy living. Mufti wants to keep it, Ghamdi wants to reform.
My question from Mufti Muhammed Naeem... you are talking pointing out conventional institution.... that if a child studies there he/she can never become an Aalim... what do you think about the islamic madarassas... if a student studies in there... can he become a sceintist, a medical doctor or an engineer???? think about it... both type of institutions need some serious restructuring...
My question from Mufti Muhammed Naeem... you are talking pointing out conventional institution.... that if a child studies there he/she can never become an Aalim... what do you think about the islamic madarassas... if a student studies in there... can he become a sceintist, a medical doctor or an engineer???? think about it... both type of institutions need some serious restructuring...
This motta maulvi looks high on weed. No sense talk is what they are good at. Look at his face, his ideology is stamped on his face and is no way going away through straight talk. Needs a kick on the butt.
I have not seen Aalim like Janab Ghamidi.He is the only person who the even non believers would like to listen.He is very knowledgeable his vision is well beyond the people with he has to sit with.I think he is before time in Pakistani culture.Pakistan is well clutched by Jahil molvis and this is very natural with the level of education in Pakistan.
Jamiabinoria Brother has croped and edited the full vedio of this programme. It was of 5 parts. Any one can see the whole program by searching " javed ahmed ghamidi madrassah system". I dont know why respected jamia binoria felt the need to edit the whole vedio and uploaded only the parts in which mufti sb "performed" good.
Ghamdi should seek in the history and learn which is the real education system and which is prevailing for centuries and which one is founded by British for preparing people for their slavery and especially for the subcontinent. We should prevail to the real education system and after getting the basic Islamic education every Muslim should be allowed to either serve Islam by going for getting complete Islamic education and become Ulama or become engineers and doctors. This is done in Madaris
Ghamidi is the most sensible scholar in Pakistan who not only have knowledge of Islam but know how to talk like a sensible person. So next time be careful in your comments.
, engineers and scientists and deliver the same lectures to them to go for Ummomi Education first and then go for Dunya. Ghamdi here saying that there is Ummomi Education till 8th is totally nonsense. First there is no school where there is complete Islamic Environment neither is any school in the country where with 6 subjects of Dunyawi Education there are 6 subjects fo Islamic Education from the start or even 3:3 distribution.
So in the real sense if you want your child to go for Common (Ummoomi Education) it is better to go for those Madaaris where Dunyawi education is also available to get or compulsory to acquire. These Madaris are actually the places of Ummomi Education. It is very easy for a person with some common sense to understand that why Ghamdi like people are always giving lectures to people who send their children for getting Islamic Education? why don't they arrange a program for doctors, .......contd...
There are two points here. One is "Environment" which is totally different in both the education systems and the second is "Education" which is also different in both the systems. If you want to go for Islamic Education you can go to Madaaris-e-Diniya and if you want your child to go for Dunya you can go for Schools. Now the point is that most of the madaris(Islamic) have also Dunyawi education till Matric or FSc but no school have education of Ilm-e-Hadees, Quran, Tafseer, Sunnah ...contd...
most of these maulvis or students from madaris are very rigid, show no tolerance to difference of opinion and have little knowledge.
amsal83 3 weeks ago
until bhutto's regime there were 167 madaris in pakistan. after zia ul haq, there were 140,000. very obvioulsly, most of them were given birth by ISI sponsored mullahs who then trained ppl with rigid minds. islamic education never had anything to do with it.
amsal83 3 weeks ago
mufti sahab right ,and javed ghamdi sahab is not right
Emran195 2 months ago
Mufti Naeem sb Zindabad.............
qadianiyonkimout 3 months ago
Javed Ghamdi is a sensible person.
You can easily compare him with mufti naeem and his knowledge.
786SyedFaizan 4 months ago
Yeh we want robots to be trained as Aalims no need for by choice Aalim
guruebook 7 months ago 2
mufti mohmmad naeem should follow the path of mufti taki usmani
islam can not be spread by behas o mubahisa
behas o mubahisa ilm kay noor ko khatam kr deta hy
weakelement 7 months ago
I feel it hard to agree with Ghamdi here. If Allah's plan was to turn a kid into a "Mussavir" "Shaer" "Adeeb" then WHO can stop the kid from becoming one? What difference would it make if you put the kid into a Maddrassa, or English medium School, or Harvard University or no school at all? Can ANYONE change Allah's plan?? No Mr Ghamdi, u got it wrong here.
Also, how can a kid acquire ALL the "Broad based" education that connects him with the society in ONLY 1st 12 yrs of his life ??
DrDhakna 8 months ago
The man who denies the coming of the mahdi cannot be trusted wid any thing regarding our religion...This ghamdi so called scolar of islam did just that...
sunny0423 8 months ago
mr ghamdi is not a practical muslim, and there is no comparision to the knowledge of janabey ameen mufit naeem saheb...masha allah... i admire mufti saheb so much,,,, i met with him new york... he is my rolemodel...
shafiq11300 9 months ago
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DrDhakna 8 months ago
@shafiq11300
I hold a lot of respect to both scholars but personally believe that Mr Ghamdi has gone a little off the track here, I firmly believe that a school set up is the BEST if true deeni taleem that teaches the lesson of tolerance and instills wisdom, plus the modern scientific and artistic education is rendered to our kids. A Madrassa with deeni taleem and regular school curriculum is better than just plane modern day English medium schools.
DrDhakna 8 months ago
@shafiq11300 How can you say Ghamidi sahib is not practising Muslims. I know him very closely. He is very devout Muslim. He prays and fasts regularly and is very Mutaqqi person.
lakkiwala 6 months ago
The difference between the two is insurmountable, Mufti is a living fossil, oblivious to the world around him. Ghamdi is a scholar who does not know how to talk to troglodytes. Mufti has to educate himself first to understand the needs of today to earn a living. A child should be prepared to earn a living first so that he/she can support a life. Muslims were thrown into dungeons some 250 years ago with bread thrown in. It is a cosy living. Mufti wants to keep it, Ghamdi wants to reform.
amoralis123 9 months ago
n people please be respectable when talking about anyone...
shhsr 10 months ago
My question from Mufti Muhammed Naeem... you are talking pointing out conventional institution.... that if a child studies there he/she can never become an Aalim... what do you think about the islamic madarassas... if a student studies in there... can he become a sceintist, a medical doctor or an engineer???? think about it... both type of institutions need some serious restructuring...
shhsr 10 months ago
My question from Mufti Muhammed Naeem... you are talking pointing out conventional institution.... that if a child studies there he/she can never become an Aalim... what do you think about the islamic madarassas... if a student studies in there... can he become a sceintist, a medical doctor or an engineer???? think about it... both type of institutions need some serious restructuring...
shhsr 10 months ago
This motta maulvi looks high on weed. No sense talk is what they are good at. Look at his face, his ideology is stamped on his face and is no way going away through straight talk. Needs a kick on the butt.
ImranAhmedNajmi 10 months ago
Mufti Naeem... is making no sense!!
kahanho 11 months ago
what mr.ghamdi is saying is very reasonable.
syedayaz1000 11 months ago
yes you are 100 % right ghamidi, . thank you for lots of good information, please teach us more about deen Allah give u ajer for that....
Draco080 1 year ago
well don mr ghamdi i m ready to b alim after my bba.thankx
umairkhan502 1 year ago
Ghamdi Gora Hia.
enrgyneers 1 year ago 2
I have not seen Aalim like Janab Ghamidi.He is the only person who the even non believers would like to listen.He is very knowledgeable his vision is well beyond the people with he has to sit with.I think he is before time in Pakistani culture.Pakistan is well clutched by Jahil molvis and this is very natural with the level of education in Pakistan.
Muneeb58 1 year ago
Jamiabinoria Brother has croped and edited the full vedio of this programme. It was of 5 parts. Any one can see the whole program by searching " javed ahmed ghamidi madrassah system". I dont know why respected jamia binoria felt the need to edit the whole vedio and uploaded only the parts in which mufti sb "performed" good.
kudkhan 1 year ago
Banoori madarsas are father of taliban and mufti naeem is incharge of banooro madarsa
kanpoorindia 1 year ago
mufti kabhi mota nahin hota
ushaikh1 1 year ago
ghamdi is fitna avoid from him ,
hanzakhan 2 years ago
Ghamdi should seek in the history and learn which is the real education system and which is prevailing for centuries and which one is founded by British for preparing people for their slavery and especially for the subcontinent. We should prevail to the real education system and after getting the basic Islamic education every Muslim should be allowed to either serve Islam by going for getting complete Islamic education and become Ulama or become engineers and doctors. This is done in Madaris
QuranoSunnah 2 years ago
@QuranoSunnah Madaris should not exist, They are rubbish.
jawaidsiddiq 1 year ago
@jawaidsiddiq
Ghamdi is just un educated person and he is rubbish
asimbaigb 1 year ago
@asimbaigb
Mufti Muhammed Naeem ZINDA BAD
asimbaigb 1 year ago
Ghamidi is the most sensible scholar in Pakistan who not only have knowledge of Islam but know how to talk like a sensible person. So next time be careful in your comments.
coolmature63 8 months ago
@coolmature63
i think you have some mis consuption he is not only the lier also he dont have manners to say the truth
asimbaigb 8 months ago
, engineers and scientists and deliver the same lectures to them to go for Ummomi Education first and then go for Dunya. Ghamdi here saying that there is Ummomi Education till 8th is totally nonsense. First there is no school where there is complete Islamic Environment neither is any school in the country where with 6 subjects of Dunyawi Education there are 6 subjects fo Islamic Education from the start or even 3:3 distribution.
QuranoSunnah 2 years ago
Thanks for such amazing video
please upload all parts and the sound isnt synchronised with the video
myp17 2 years ago
So in the real sense if you want your child to go for Common (Ummoomi Education) it is better to go for those Madaaris where Dunyawi education is also available to get or compulsory to acquire. These Madaris are actually the places of Ummomi Education. It is very easy for a person with some common sense to understand that why Ghamdi like people are always giving lectures to people who send their children for getting Islamic Education? why don't they arrange a program for doctors, .......contd...
QuranoSunnah 2 years ago
There are two points here. One is "Environment" which is totally different in both the education systems and the second is "Education" which is also different in both the systems. If you want to go for Islamic Education you can go to Madaaris-e-Diniya and if you want your child to go for Dunya you can go for Schools. Now the point is that most of the madaris(Islamic) have also Dunyawi education till Matric or FSc but no school have education of Ilm-e-Hadees, Quran, Tafseer, Sunnah ...contd...
QuranoSunnah 2 years ago