Schopenhauer (1788-1860): "All truth passes through three stages: firstly it is ridiculed, secondly, it is violently opposed, and thirdly, it is accepted as self-evident."
@cryfreeedom Fellow Muslims are brothers, the time span between now and against the life time of Prophet Muhammad PBUH is very far away almost fourteen centuries Hijra, make a lot of difference between Muslims, in fact Islam does not recognize the sect, during the same Aqeedah, then it is a Muslim. for us the difference is grace. Disputes can occur anywhere, knows no religion, but based on my belief, it must be resolved by way of a good and wise.
@cryfreeedom Then It is a prejudice in my view, as a result of the clash of civilizations, which created by the west, since the collapse of communism as an enemy of the west, then the sword was directed to Islam. No brainwashing in Islam, we are happy and joyful practice Islam. there is no compulsion. God keep the sanctity of our Prophet, may not be deceived by devils, the Prophet Muhammad PBUH is the best. Billions of followers, as well as its contribution to the world, is clear evidence.
@cryfreeedom is literally does mean "peace" and "surrender", but the point is Islam, to be salvation. with the mission of improving the human attitude to be has noble attitude. With that attitude is expected of man can live a peaceful, fair and good in the world and in the hereafter. What happened to the prophet Muhammad PBUH, everything happens by the will of God, and we believe in prophethood of Muhammad PBUH.
agama yang benar ngak usah didebat alloh yang punya semua agama kalau tak percaya tanya alloh sekarang juga pasti dia diam kenapa alloh diam kerana kamu semua pembohong agama,kambing ada macam macam jenis apa kau pekir cuma satu agama aja yg benar yang lain itu salah masuk neraka,jangan dengar pembohong agama nanti kamu berperang sama sendiri.jadilah manusia yang berperikemanusian dimana bumi dipijak disitu juga langgit di jungjung
@Mr0000143 teori dari mana kang? kok pating paletot? bikin aja akang agama sendiri, saya yakin nggak akan ada pengikutnya. tolong susun yang baik susunan kalimatnya, biar jelas apa yang dimaksud.
kalau yang dimaksud bahwa para penganut agama harus saling menghargai itu BETUL.
Kalau yang dimaksud semua agama adalah benar, menurut saya ITU SALAH, karena menyalahi logika.
karena tidak mungkin 1+1+1=1
Meyakini kebenaran Agamanya bukan berarti menghina agama lain. nah disinilah diperlukan KEDEWASAAN.
Thanx Acxxman... i m sure Allah will always b with u, insyallah.. as 4 peacechild61.. r u still exist? pls do ur research again.. if u dont want 2 try 2 read d quran, pls reread ur bible by heart. If u have already forgotten about ur god, don't even try to quote what is in the bible. U don't know what u r talking about and u jst make fool of urself. Learn more b4 coming into provocative matter. Use ur brain, dont let ur anger take over u.
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This is crap!! nearly ALL Indonesians are MUSLIM!! and the ones that were Christian are now DEAD, killed by muslim jihadists...there is NO freedom of religion in ISLAM!!! ISLAM is the religion of SATAN, my friends.
Agama setan itu yang suka menjajah, merampok,mencuri,membunuh, sapa coba sekarang yang masih suka maling? di Iraq, di Afganistan,dll... sapa yang maling di Indo, dateng jajah, sapa coba pasti deh pura-pura bego atau memang bego beneran kali yah huuaaaaa
You are wrong. Their is freedom in Islam, And we are not certinaly part of the satan. In what we beileve we have the chose. But you ARE in a way right. Some of our Muslim friends find it that we must force some people to become Muslims and use any way they can to make them muslims, INCLUDING BloodShed, i don't know what their thinking, but there wrong. EveryOne can do what they want. IM sorry for everyone killed from my muslim brothers. Please Understand
The only religion of satan is that religion who can teach it's followers to talk garbage and lie like you..such childish act..you're not don't deceiving anyone, there are 18 million Christians in Indonesia among 211 million muslims, and they have been living side by side in peace for literally hundreds of years, keep your lies and hate to yourself in Australia, we don't want to hear them
Ur such a liar,acxxman,, what about the 3 Christian schoolgirlsBEHEADED on their way to school?? what about the Christians killed,forced to convert/forcefully circumcised in thousands in the Moluccas, by muslim jihadists,forced from their villages...rapists, murderers! funny how when Tsunami hit Indonesia, the christians were saved,cos Indonesian Govt refused them permission for Christmas service, so they went up in the hills to worship,then Tsunami hit , not one Christian lost their life!
I'm sorry, it is quite obvious who the liar here is. you have just contradicted yourself anyways, you previously said all christians in indonesia are dead, then here you claim that there are still christians alive there especially those "saved" from the tsunami..You're a liar and you yourself know it. Beheading schoolgirls is against Islam as the prophet Muhammad forbade anyone to kill women and children. Why don't you quote the 50000 muslims who were driven out in 1999 in Ambon by CHRISTIANS?
Why don't you quote all the massacre and mass murders done by Christians in Ambon towards the muslims, the destruction of mosques etc? You see, you cannot lie and use double standards to prove a point ok. I still want you to explain how come there are around 18 MILLION (18 397 000) Christians in Indonesia, and these people are active in the governement, economy, and entertainment industry without being disturbed by anyone? Stop lying for once, could you?
why don't you quote all the millions of Hindus in india killed by muslim aggressors when islam invaded India, and all the CHRISTIAN countries they invaded until the 1066 when the Christians finally retaliated to their slaughter by answering their evil with the CRUSADES!! oh,and thanks for not killing the 18 million Christians you say are still in Indonesia...ha ha , and please name tha ACTIVE Christians in government in Indonesia..NAMES not lies!
why India all of a sudden? I'm talking about Indonesia, and Ambon is an area in Indonesia where conflicts were rife in 1999 between the 2 groups. If you wanna talk about India that's a seperate story, where we can also quote the 400 years of Christian brutal occupation and colonialism of South East Asia and the rest of the world including North and South America, Northern India and Europe where millions succumbed under Christian rule and millions more lives were badly affected
Sure, these are some of the list of the Indonesian Christian parties
1)Peace and Prosperous Party- won 12 seats out of 560 seats in the People's Representative Council in 2004
2)Indonesia Catholic Party- a fusion of 7 already establish sub-parties
3)Indonesia Christian Party
4)Democratic Bestowed Party
5)Indonesian People Democratic Party and others, there are 19 Christian parties in Indonesia, 4 whom newly formed in 2005 and 2006, and not registered yet
Even the deputy Prime Minister of Indonesia and also Minister of Health, from 1957-1966, was Dr Johannes Leimena, who was a Christian..Google it, and pray for wisdom "peace"child61
NO, Accxxman, READ properly what i said ..I said nearly all Indonesians are muslims and the ones( meaning muslims) who were Christians( meaning apostates) are now dead...killed by muslim jihadists..its true theres nio freedom of religion in indonesia, you KILL Christians and those who turn to Christianity...what are you muslims so afraid of/ that you have to kill those of different religious opinions? you kill buddhists, hindus, christians, animists,and Muhmmad was a murderer slaver of women.
That's a lie. When are you gonna stop lying, please tell me..In fact, this video is actually an excerpt from a debate between Muslim apostates and Christian apostates, you can watch the full video by typing "Murtad vs Muallaf", which translates "Apostates vs New Brothers".The brother in this video is a former Christian.The video is in Indonesian language, and you obviously can't understand it. But it shows that apostates are not killed and are even welcomed to do debates for the truth
I don't deny that there are minor cases of muslim killing Christian civillians, just as there are Christians killing muslim civillians, like the 2000 years of bloody Christian rule,the latest is in Iraq and Afghanistan, by Holy-Spirit guided Bible believing Christians..
What i'm saying is we should look at the bigger picturethat muslims who kill civillians are going in direct contradiction with what the prophet Muhammad taught which is, there shall be no killing of" women, children, elderly and non-combatants"
The killing of apostates are even there in the Bible, so again i would as you to stop being deceitful and stop lying..the Bible in Deuteronomy 13:9 and the rest of the chapter says it plainly that not only apostates should be killed, but missionaries of other religions should me murdered as well, and the town whee they come from should be burned and the population annihilated..Read it for yourself, and you tell me which religion advocates killing
I am a Christian..Jesus Christ said not to kill...we do not follow Deuteronomy, of the Old Testament, that was for Israel before the Messiah who made a NEW Testament...and you make me laugh,Acxxman, it is ONLY ISLAM that kills apostates, !! name me ONE Christian country where people are put to death for leaving Christianity...just ONE!! lol. peace to you too,
Y are you laughing?You are laughing because Christians don't follow the Bible anymore, so you don't have to ask me which country follows the Bible, because there is almost nill, no one follows it,no one follows matthew 15:7 which says the torah is still valid, no one sells everything they have and give to the poor like is said in Luke 18:22 etc..It doesn't matter if you reject Deuteronomy,because Jesus is still the Old Testament God according to you,so Jesus gave that law to kill apostates.peace
Orang islam menguatkan iman dengan mendalami agama. Bukan macam setengah orang bukan islam cuba menguatkan iman dengan meningkatkan kebencian terhadap agama Islam.
@nezaromar No offence but, take back your words pls! Islam is a religion of condemnation and hatred.. I have friends who are strong muslims but oftenly they suffer seeking the truth! They read the quran, they learn about the quran, but do they create their relantionship with their god? Do they know Allah? Have they seen Allah?
You seems like getting all 'itchy' about these videos. I just don't know why? Maybe, by posting comments like that, you somehow trying to convince yourself more of your faith and strengthen your belief to your God? Funny.
you think that is wright to kill christians in indonesia.. ahh??? fucking assholes!!! you will all go to hell
superzambell 2 months ago
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Schopenhauer (1788-1860): "All truth passes through three stages: firstly it is ridiculed, secondly, it is violently opposed, and thirdly, it is accepted as self-evident."
komen456 7 months ago
@cryfreeedom Fellow Muslims are brothers, the time span between now and against the life time of Prophet Muhammad PBUH is very far away almost fourteen centuries Hijra, make a lot of difference between Muslims, in fact Islam does not recognize the sect, during the same Aqeedah, then it is a Muslim. for us the difference is grace. Disputes can occur anywhere, knows no religion, but based on my belief, it must be resolved by way of a good and wise.
komen456 7 months ago
@cryfreeedom Then It is a prejudice in my view, as a result of the clash of civilizations, which created by the west, since the collapse of communism as an enemy of the west, then the sword was directed to Islam. No brainwashing in Islam, we are happy and joyful practice Islam. there is no compulsion. God keep the sanctity of our Prophet, may not be deceived by devils, the Prophet Muhammad PBUH is the best. Billions of followers, as well as its contribution to the world, is clear evidence.
komen456 7 months ago
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@cryfreeedom is literally does mean "peace" and "surrender", but the point is Islam, to be salvation. with the mission of improving the human attitude to be has noble attitude. With that attitude is expected of man can live a peaceful, fair and good in the world and in the hereafter. What happened to the prophet Muhammad PBUH, everything happens by the will of God, and we believe in prophethood of Muhammad PBUH.
komen456 7 months ago
@cryfreeedom You are wrong, Islam is salvation,
I= Is Salvation
S= so is Salvation
L= Large Salvation
A= All will Salvation
M= More Salvation
Conclusion : Islam is all about salvation
komen456 7 months ago
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islam will rule the world!
ayubk001 9 months ago
Allahu Akbar!
Sadzredrose 1 year ago
agama yang benar ngak usah didebat alloh yang punya semua agama kalau tak percaya tanya alloh sekarang juga pasti dia diam kenapa alloh diam kerana kamu semua pembohong agama,kambing ada macam macam jenis apa kau pekir cuma satu agama aja yg benar yang lain itu salah masuk neraka,jangan dengar pembohong agama nanti kamu berperang sama sendiri.jadilah manusia yang berperikemanusian dimana bumi dipijak disitu juga langgit di jungjung
Mr0000143 1 year ago
@Mr0000143 teori dari mana kang? kok pating paletot? bikin aja akang agama sendiri, saya yakin nggak akan ada pengikutnya. tolong susun yang baik susunan kalimatnya, biar jelas apa yang dimaksud.
kalau yang dimaksud bahwa para penganut agama harus saling menghargai itu BETUL.
Kalau yang dimaksud semua agama adalah benar, menurut saya ITU SALAH, karena menyalahi logika.
karena tidak mungkin 1+1+1=1
Meyakini kebenaran Agamanya bukan berarti menghina agama lain. nah disinilah diperlukan KEDEWASAAN.
komen456 7 months ago
translate brother
pulman7 1 year ago
I am mohammod i fucked a 6 year old child...worship me!
yankee22167 1 year ago
ada sambungannya nga ?
routermen 1 year ago
Thanx Acxxman... i m sure Allah will always b with u, insyallah.. as 4 peacechild61.. r u still exist? pls do ur research again.. if u dont want 2 try 2 read d quran, pls reread ur bible by heart. If u have already forgotten about ur god, don't even try to quote what is in the bible. U don't know what u r talking about and u jst make fool of urself. Learn more b4 coming into provocative matter. Use ur brain, dont let ur anger take over u.
songketbiru 1 year ago
@songketbiru So well said brother !
meelusine 1 year ago
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This is crap!! nearly ALL Indonesians are MUSLIM!! and the ones that were Christian are now DEAD, killed by muslim jihadists...there is NO freedom of religion in ISLAM!!! ISLAM is the religion of SATAN, my friends.
peacechild61 2 years ago
Agama setan itu yang suka menjajah, merampok,mencuri,membunuh, sapa coba sekarang yang masih suka maling? di Iraq, di Afganistan,dll... sapa yang maling di Indo, dateng jajah, sapa coba pasti deh pura-pura bego atau memang bego beneran kali yah huuaaaaa
narenaren 2 years ago
You are wrong. Their is freedom in Islam, And we are not certinaly part of the satan. In what we beileve we have the chose. But you ARE in a way right. Some of our Muslim friends find it that we must force some people to become Muslims and use any way they can to make them muslims, INCLUDING BloodShed, i don't know what their thinking, but there wrong. EveryOne can do what they want. IM sorry for everyone killed from my muslim brothers. Please Understand
hasanbarre 2 years ago
The only religion of satan is that religion who can teach it's followers to talk garbage and lie like you..such childish act..you're not don't deceiving anyone, there are 18 million Christians in Indonesia among 211 million muslims, and they have been living side by side in peace for literally hundreds of years, keep your lies and hate to yourself in Australia, we don't want to hear them
Acxxman 2 years ago
Ur such a liar,acxxman,, what about the 3 Christian schoolgirlsBEHEADED on their way to school?? what about the Christians killed,forced to convert/forcefully circumcised in thousands in the Moluccas, by muslim jihadists,forced from their villages...rapists, murderers! funny how when Tsunami hit Indonesia, the christians were saved,cos Indonesian Govt refused them permission for Christmas service, so they went up in the hills to worship,then Tsunami hit , not one Christian lost their life!
peacechild61 2 years ago
I'm sorry, it is quite obvious who the liar here is. you have just contradicted yourself anyways, you previously said all christians in indonesia are dead, then here you claim that there are still christians alive there especially those "saved" from the tsunami..You're a liar and you yourself know it. Beheading schoolgirls is against Islam as the prophet Muhammad forbade anyone to kill women and children. Why don't you quote the 50000 muslims who were driven out in 1999 in Ambon by CHRISTIANS?
Acxxman 2 years ago
Why don't you quote all the massacre and mass murders done by Christians in Ambon towards the muslims, the destruction of mosques etc? You see, you cannot lie and use double standards to prove a point ok. I still want you to explain how come there are around 18 MILLION (18 397 000) Christians in Indonesia, and these people are active in the governement, economy, and entertainment industry without being disturbed by anyone? Stop lying for once, could you?
Acxxman 2 years ago
why don't you quote all the millions of Hindus in india killed by muslim aggressors when islam invaded India, and all the CHRISTIAN countries they invaded until the 1066 when the Christians finally retaliated to their slaughter by answering their evil with the CRUSADES!! oh,and thanks for not killing the 18 million Christians you say are still in Indonesia...ha ha , and please name tha ACTIVE Christians in government in Indonesia..NAMES not lies!
peacechild61 2 years ago
why India all of a sudden? I'm talking about Indonesia, and Ambon is an area in Indonesia where conflicts were rife in 1999 between the 2 groups. If you wanna talk about India that's a seperate story, where we can also quote the 400 years of Christian brutal occupation and colonialism of South East Asia and the rest of the world including North and South America, Northern India and Europe where millions succumbed under Christian rule and millions more lives were badly affected
Acxxman 2 years ago
Sure, these are some of the list of the Indonesian Christian parties
1)Peace and Prosperous Party- won 12 seats out of 560 seats in the People's Representative Council in 2004
2)Indonesia Catholic Party- a fusion of 7 already establish sub-parties
3)Indonesia Christian Party
4)Democratic Bestowed Party
5)Indonesian People Democratic Party and others, there are 19 Christian parties in Indonesia, 4 whom newly formed in 2005 and 2006, and not registered yet
Acxxman 2 years ago
Even the deputy Prime Minister of Indonesia and also Minister of Health, from 1957-1966, was Dr Johannes Leimena, who was a Christian..Google it, and pray for wisdom "peace"child61
Acxxman 2 years ago
NO, Accxxman, READ properly what i said ..I said nearly all Indonesians are muslims and the ones( meaning muslims) who were Christians( meaning apostates) are now dead...killed by muslim jihadists..its true theres nio freedom of religion in indonesia, you KILL Christians and those who turn to Christianity...what are you muslims so afraid of/ that you have to kill those of different religious opinions? you kill buddhists, hindus, christians, animists,and Muhmmad was a murderer slaver of women.
peacechild61 2 years ago
That's a lie. When are you gonna stop lying, please tell me..In fact, this video is actually an excerpt from a debate between Muslim apostates and Christian apostates, you can watch the full video by typing "Murtad vs Muallaf", which translates "Apostates vs New Brothers".The brother in this video is a former Christian.The video is in Indonesian language, and you obviously can't understand it. But it shows that apostates are not killed and are even welcomed to do debates for the truth
Acxxman 2 years ago
I don't deny that there are minor cases of muslim killing Christian civillians, just as there are Christians killing muslim civillians, like the 2000 years of bloody Christian rule,the latest is in Iraq and Afghanistan, by Holy-Spirit guided Bible believing Christians..
Acxxman 2 years ago
What i'm saying is we should look at the bigger picturethat muslims who kill civillians are going in direct contradiction with what the prophet Muhammad taught which is, there shall be no killing of" women, children, elderly and non-combatants"
Acxxman 2 years ago
The killing of apostates are even there in the Bible, so again i would as you to stop being deceitful and stop lying..the Bible in Deuteronomy 13:9 and the rest of the chapter says it plainly that not only apostates should be killed, but missionaries of other religions should me murdered as well, and the town whee they come from should be burned and the population annihilated..Read it for yourself, and you tell me which religion advocates killing
peace
Acxxman 2 years ago
I am a Christian..Jesus Christ said not to kill...we do not follow Deuteronomy, of the Old Testament, that was for Israel before the Messiah who made a NEW Testament...and you make me laugh,Acxxman, it is ONLY ISLAM that kills apostates, !! name me ONE Christian country where people are put to death for leaving Christianity...just ONE!! lol. peace to you too,
peacechild61 2 years ago
Y are you laughing?You are laughing because Christians don't follow the Bible anymore, so you don't have to ask me which country follows the Bible, because there is almost nill, no one follows it,no one follows matthew 15:7 which says the torah is still valid, no one sells everything they have and give to the poor like is said in Luke 18:22 etc..It doesn't matter if you reject Deuteronomy,because Jesus is still the Old Testament God according to you,so Jesus gave that law to kill apostates.peace
Acxxman 2 years ago
@peacechild61 try all of south america civilization was put to death in the name of christianity..dumbass
nycolombian91 1 year ago
Orang islam menguatkan iman dengan mendalami agama. Bukan macam setengah orang bukan islam cuba menguatkan iman dengan meningkatkan kebencian terhadap agama Islam.
katkoben 2 years ago 4
God Bless Islam and all Muslim people. Islam is a religion of love and peace
nezaromar 2 years ago 7
@nezaromar No offence but, take back your words pls! Islam is a religion of condemnation and hatred.. I have friends who are strong muslims but oftenly they suffer seeking the truth! They read the quran, they learn about the quran, but do they create their relantionship with their god? Do they know Allah? Have they seen Allah?
PoprappingSongwriter 1 year ago
Complete whitewash of Christendom:
tinyurl . com / aqs5hc
zakuk77 2 years ago
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More and more people are brainwashed by smooth talk, fake videos and are set up to join the religion of the strong and powerful.
well, power is nothing to God only love and compassion. God bless!
hetismij21 3 years ago
You seems like getting all 'itchy' about these videos. I just don't know why? Maybe, by posting comments like that, you somehow trying to convince yourself more of your faith and strengthen your belief to your God? Funny.
NasiGorengUSA 2 years ago 4
Maasha allah...more and more people converting to islam accross the globe
Pikkooa1 3 years ago 7
Alhamdulillah, n thats no wonder because anyone that interested in truth will evantually find it in islam n not some others.
katkoben 2 years ago
mashaallah !!! saya suka video itu !!!
popeyesavera 3 years ago 3
Ini kurang lanjutannya bos... versi lengkapnya ada ga bos?
lahandi 3 years ago
Mashallah,Allah o akbar
oho321 3 years ago
mash'ALLAH!!!:)
muslimadu45 3 years ago
what is he saying?
i dont understand
sheenogai 3 years ago 2
Alhamdulillah
now he is a muslim preach :)
Hardi99 3 years ago
Mashallah!
kalewaal 3 years ago
i really cant understand u
i am not indonesian, i am malaysian
Hardi99 3 years ago
MALAYSIA ZENDABAD ;)
Pokhton 3 years ago
now what is that?
what is zenbabad
Hardi99 3 years ago
long live=zendabad
brother i have a question
pls can you send me some malaysian cultur video??? Inshallah you aloud me to see Malaysian country musik people
Pokhton 3 years ago
insyaallah, i will find it now
Hardi99 3 years ago
this are indonesians not malaysians....
hangnadim77 3 years ago
brother read my other messanges and you understand why i wrote zendabad malaysia ,ok salam waleikum
Pokhton 3 years ago
Allahuakbar!
Hardi99 3 years ago
ermm im very sorry :(. i will try insyaallah
Hardi99 3 years ago
wrora salam waleikum pls next time with english subtitel that our brothers in other countrys understand wat this brother say
kheir wose wrora khudai paman
Pokhton 3 years ago