Jul 15, 2011 ... US — U.S. recognizes Libyan rebels, Hillary Clinton says. ... Obama Approves $30 Billion to Al-Qaeda Backed Libyan Rebels - 7/15/11 ... giving a significant boost to the movement seeking to oust dictator Muammar Qadhafi, ...
Jesus fucking christ! More of this keep us safe bull shit. Has not the present admin. captuured more terrorist than the shit for brains corp.
And this stupied bitch is talking about prosecution of white collar criminals.
What was the verdict on bin laden's driver in a military tribunal?(who was convicted of taking orders of litterally "take a left here.") Time served. Allah.
What an embarrassment Liz Cheney and Bill O'Reilley are to Real Americans. What an embarrassment that we must call "fellow americans" stupid drones who insist on giving their support to people who hate America so much. Keep America Safe? Let's start by locking the Cheney family in Guantanamo Bay.
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so they already have the names? so whats the problem. Law enforcement does this all the time. to catch a thief someitmes you hire a thief. to slip up their defense you hire someone that has done it in the past. What Bill failed to say that the guy that was released was released under the Bush admin. The leader of the group in Yemen the underwear bomber was part of was released by the Bush admin. 42 others where released by Bush and Dick cheney. Thats a fact Jack!!!!!
She seems to be 1) asking for transparency (Who are these people?); and 2) urging a distinction between war and crime. What's wrong with that?
It's true up to a point that you shouldn't judge a lawyer by his clients, but then there are the William Kuntslers of the world. I don't want my DOJ hiring a bunch of lawyers who hate America. They should at least tell us who they are.
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Liz is dead wrong this time and Billo didn't have the balls to stop her. he wimpered a bit in the beginning to cover his ass but then he gave her all the time she needed to demonstrate pure McCarthism. Guilt by association. She's the most frightening unamerican thing here and typical of Faux News BS
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@earthman4u you're right about liz cheney, but she's been a raging loon for a long time. more attention should be enablers like oreilly and hannity and bill kristol, who actually have bigger forums to speak to people. kristol is truly a piece of work. he's the guy who dismissed anyone who thought the sunnis and shiites would go after each other if saddam were gone. "oh, that's just pop psychology." why does anyone ever put him on tv?
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So she doesn't think that terrorists are criminals? Does she think they are enemy soldiers? If so, which country are you at war with? In a democracy, terrorists are criminals and should be dealt with by the police and civilian courts. In a dictatorship a terrorist may be a freedom fighter but they have no place in a democracy (unless of course it is a democracy that displeases the USA).
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Liz cheney didn't really think this one thru did she. Her "guilt by association" approach with her al-qaeda 7 ad left out ALOT of people. Based on the logic used for the false,and FUNNY ad,her dear ol dad would be right at the top of that list with "people who share al-qeada values." His admin appointed military lawyers to defend detainees. Not to mention 3 terrorist that were tried in a military court have been set free under cheney's watch. So again based on liz's logic, Liz herself is guilty.
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A nasty, nasty, liar of a woman. She leaves out the critical information that this "Al Quaeda seven" were lawyers that were ASKED by THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION TO DEFEND THESE GUYS. The smug Cheneys of the world think that power should only rest with them. If it were up to here and people like her, there would be no courts. She was an unqualified member of the state department (see her paper thin so called resume) who got the job because of her dad. And she remains gutter trash and worthless
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This witch is merely covering her father's sorry butt. And if you want proof that O'Reilly is a nut, just watch this 6 minutes of drivel. She has no qualifications. Zero. She is nasty vitriolic and nuts. What Cheney DOESN'T tell the stupid uninformed fox viewers is that the BUSH ADMINISTRATION ASKED THESE PEOPLE TO REPRESENT THESE GUYS. She's like her father, a whack job. She's certainly like her mother who is a nasty, nasty, nasty woman.
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LOL...A founding father, John Adams, was an attorney who defended the commanding officer of the British troops involved in the Boston Massacre. These lawyers are no more guilty of treason than he was. Cheney was once a brilliant man. Now he's just a war mongering psyhco. And that vitriolic misguided daughter of his lol....what the heck is up with the Cheney gene pool?
You're exactly right, AND only 3 people were ever convicted under the military tribunal system. Far more terrorists have been convicted in civilian courts. This group makes me embarrassed to be registered as a Republican.
@dave4shmups It's only THIS group that makes you embarrassed to be a republican???? You have not been keeping up with the news for the past twenty or so years.
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Hamdan was tried in a military court and acquitted of the more serious terrorism charge. He was found guilty of the "providing material support" charge, and sentenced to 5 -1/2 years, with credit for the five years he had already been held.
So what is Cheney's point? That we should just line up and shoot anyone we capture? Most of the Gitmo detainees were innocent, and about 500 have been released.
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Yup! Total, unending war! That's the solution. Won't prevent a single terrorist act, but it sure works well as a boot stamping on a human face forever. Legal rights? Pfft, that's the OLD America.
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Its people like this who would rewrite the Constitution, to fit their goals, under the power of fear. It is people like this, who if in power, would label anyone with opposing views as an un-American traitor....and we know that anyone who doesnt agree with them must be a terror sympathizer, and terrorists can be imprisoned or executed without trial by their way of thinking, She is the type of mind who would choose to lock up dissenters and those who disagree. The ones she calls un-America.Evil!
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Liz makes me sick. K.A.S. is nothing more than a McCarthy-esque attack on the American tradition of free and fair trial. What other alternative is there? Execution without trial? That's called MURDER and it violates the Geneva Convention. To kill a man in the field of battle is little more than doing your duty; to kill a man who is at your mercy without trial is a war crime. Even the Nazi butchers at Auschwitz had defense counsel as was the only way to insure JUSTICE was served.
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I look forward to the day when her torture loving father is in jail. Let us not forget that it was her father and Bush in charge when 9/11/01 happen, but if you listen to these clowns you'd think Bush and Cheney kept us safe. REALLY LIZZIE? Your father kept us safe. I think their are 3000 family's in America who would tell you 'YOUR FULL OF SHIT BITCH" your dad and Bush where told Al Qa'ida was planning to attack us 1 month before they did and they did nothing about it Fuck Liz & her RETARD DAD
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evil bitch....
the cheneys are an embarrassment to the US. americans should put them away and not give them public forum to make asses of themselves while representing the US.
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Liz Cheney and her father have always bothered me, but with this latest contention that lawyers who defended terrorists might harbor the same beliefs as the terrorists, for the first time, makes me feel sorry for both of them .
How tragic that they live their lives seeing the world as they do.
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We should let the terrorist suspect go...since there's plenty more where they came from...and indict Dick and Dickless instead. These people are nuts!
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When John Adams (signer of the constitution and US president) represented Brittish Torries accused of murder in the prelude to the American revolution he was being a traitor to his country, right? Also, he won the case. Too bad Liz and her Dick of a dad were not there to waterboard the Torries. The US could have saved on the costs of the trial.
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she doesnt want civilian trials or lawyers familiar with terrorist networks, because that might leak information to the public, during the course of trial, things that might give a bit more insight into what happened before 9/11. our Government once funded the Mujahadeen against the Soviet Union..they later came back as Taliban/al Queda, and flew planes into the world trade center. What happened in between? What other contacts were made in Afghanistan leading up to 9/11 and what was the purpose?
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i see people like this using the word terror alot..but they are USING terror as a political tool to frighten, and gain support from, short minded people. And it works!! I mean, look, if a terrorist kills five people it is on Fox News forever..but every day in the USA around 250 people are brutally murdered by violent criminals. Nothing said on the news..hmm the real danger to Americans is criminals, many created from the failed, trillion dollar, War on Drugs..another right wing fear tool.
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Liz Cheney from Keeping America Scared..what a crock of crap she is...you know why? the biggest threat to Americans is not foreign terrorists!!! It is regular drug addicted scum, who murder Americans everyday. Its the thug waiting in the parking lot to kill you for your wallet and car keys. Its the child predators who abduct untold numbers of children every day. Its the gangs that roam US streets. These are are MUCH MUCH greater threat to our people, but it isnt political, so not important.
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She doesnt really share any good qualities..just an attention whore, really, riding her name for all its worth. She doesnt care about anyones safety but her own, and shes no patriot..or is she?
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the only reason i say this is because the right seems to be saying Founding Fathers alot lately..how they want to follow those ideals...watch palin on founding fathers..beck..o reilly..my post was just another take on that, and not lies.
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I think we should kill all terrorists..but I dont think people should walk around being afraid of terrorism, any more than we should be worried about being killed by a drunk driver or common criminal.
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Liz Cheney from Keeping America Scared..what a crock of crap she is...you know why? the biggest threat to Americans is not foreign terrorists!!! It is regular drug addicted scum, who murder Americans everyday. Its the thug waiting in the parking lot to kill you for your wallet and car keys. Its the child predators who abduct untold numbers of children every day. Its the gangs that roam US streets. These are are MUCH MUCH greater threat to our people, but it isnt political, so not important.
Liz Cheney is exemplifying this country at its finest. I don't want any terrorist sympathizers in the Justice Department or White House for that fact.
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Liz Cheney exemplifies political opportunism at it worst. DOJ attorneys represent more than just their clients - they also represent and defend the American criminal justice system. They are no more "al Qaeda sympathizers" than the defense lawyer who represented Jeffrey Dahmer was a "cannibal sympathizer." Tell me you're not too stoopid to understand that much.
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It's more comparing green apples to red apples.
The American colonists saw British soldiers as the enemy, not as our buddies.
The act of John Adams defending those that were despised by the colonists, demonstrates the need for a fair trial for everyone.
These 2 examples are far more similar than different. I know right wingers would love to twist this and claim otherwise, but they've never been right about anything and their leadership was a proven failure.
TWA 800 blew up during Ramzi Yousef's (the 1993 WTC bomber) civilian trial, explosive residue was found adjacent to the center wing fuel tank, Yousef tried to get a mistrial declared the next day, his uncle KSM continued Yousef's planes as missiles plot, treating this enemy as a pure law enforcement criminal matter is clearly not appropriate
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These Tea Party Protesters DO embody the spirit of our Founding Fathers, who commited a genocide against the Native American people who had populated North America for 20,000 years. They exemplify the spirit of the Founding Fathers and true Patriots who implemented widespread slavery and oppression as an institution. They have the same spirit of their ancestors who burned witches in Salem, and forced non traditional religions to flee west or be persecuted. Their spirit is alive and well among us
You seem to be getting a lot of thumbs down just for speaking the truth. It seems US Americans don`t like hearing uncomfortable truths much like the Turks are in denial about the Armeinian genocide.
It`s sad how blind patriotism blinds and deafens people in to becoming liars and hipocrites.
Hey Liz how come you're not complaining about the NYC terror trial now? Oh yeah, it's because Atty Gen Holder got a full confession and cooperation from the suspect. You were wrong and you harped on it for months. You and Fox News, your little right-wing whores. Wrong about everything as usual.
You have no idea what you are talking about idiot. The NYC terror trials involve Khaled Sheik Muhammad, who had confessed before the trial even started. There is no reason to give foreign terrorists trials in the United States.
Giving foreign terrorists civilian trials will give them access to information that will damage national security. There is a reason why military commissions exist. Khaled Sheik Muhammad is not a U.S. citizen and was captured in Pakistan. How did he get constitutional rights? If he murdered people in Afghanistan and was captured by the U.S. military he would not get a civilian trial, but because he murdered Americans he gets a civilian trial. Explain to me how this makes sense.
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"Explain to me how this makes sense."
It makes sense because the alternative is so much worse. Face it, Matt, you don't even want a trial for terror suspects. You just want them dead.
You say you like military courts, but if you compare the records of tribunals and civilian courts during the Bush admin, you'd see the rate of conviction in civilian court was better. I suspect what you really want is a kangaroo court and a firing squad.
You really have no faith in US justice, do you Matt?
Heraldblog, you are wrong in saying I don't want trials for terror suspects. I just don't want trials in U.S. civilian courts. You didn't explain how it makes sense to try a foreign terrorist captured in Pakistan in U.S. civilian courts. How is the alternative worse? During World War II would do you think the U.S. should have tried captured Nazi soldiers in U.S. civilian courts? If not, then why not?
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Captured Nazi soldiers enjoyed Geneva convention protection i during WWII. That's more that KSM, Jose Padilla, or any of the 700 plus GItmo employees received. The German spies that were nabbed in Long Island in 1942 received military trials, as did the Wermacht soldiers caught in Allied uniforms during the Ardennes offensive.
So you want military tribunals? Why? Their record from 2001-2008 was no better than civilian courts.
Actually, Nazi soldiers did not have Geneva Convention protection as the Geneva Conventions did not exist yet. You mention how German spies received military trials, why should this be different?
I want military trials because I don't want terrorists to have access to our intelligence.
In civilian trials the terrorists would get access to information that is used to convict them. It could reveal secrets of how intelligence is collected. Do you really not see any problem with informing al Qaeda about how information is collected on al Qaeda? It doesn't matter if they are behind bars, they will still have the ability to communicate to their fellow terrorists. Civilian trials have never been used to foreign combatants caught on the battlefield.
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Really? Because the Bush admin tried over 100 terror suspects. Reagan insisted on civilian trials for terrorists because a military tribunal would only legitimize terrorists as soldiers. Treat terrorists like the criminals they are, was Reagan's thinking, rather than entertain their fantasy that they are real soldiers.
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The trial in NY would be better than a military trial. Look at the records. !00+ terrorist were tried and convicted in civilian courts are are currently being held in super max prisons. Now the military tirals on the other hand. Out of all the people tried in a military tribunal,3 have already been released,thanks to bush,cheny. Out of those three,2 went back to terrorism and one helped train the xmas day bomber. Civilian trials are better than military.
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Fox News is a filthy, disgusting, rotted toilet that overflows with revolting vomit and excrement that pretends to be information. Its a grotesque and an outright embarrassment.
@celophysis5454545 greed exists no matter what government you have, it's human nature.
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Terrorism isn't crime?
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The USA over threw the SHAH OF IRAN AND APPROVED THE RELIGON REGIME
Its call blow back ...get out of the middle east .Mexico has a bigger army and bill worries about Iran. . Bill is cancer to the public
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Jul 15, 2011 ... US — U.S. recognizes Libyan rebels, Hillary Clinton says. ... Obama Approves $30 Billion to Al-Qaeda Backed Libyan Rebels - 7/15/11 ... giving a significant boost to the movement seeking to oust dictator Muammar Qadhafi, ...
2020starman 5 months ago
She is Dick with a wig on.
ladybluetexan 6 months ago
the only terrorists in america are AMERICANS!!
creedstat 10 months ago 2
War on terror ? Thats rediculous.
cubanboy740 1 year ago 2
terrorism, it's a scam...
Darusdei 1 year ago
When even Billo can't keep a straight face when saying "the Al Queda 7" you KNOW it's utter bullshit.
steffenla4 1 year ago
Jesus fucking christ! More of this keep us safe bull shit. Has not the present admin. captuured more terrorist than the shit for brains corp.
And this stupied bitch is talking about prosecution of white collar criminals.
What was the verdict on bin laden's driver in a military tribunal?(who was convicted of taking orders of litterally "take a left here.") Time served. Allah.
walkermydawg 1 year ago
What an embarrassment Liz Cheney and Bill O'Reilley are to Real Americans. What an embarrassment that we must call "fellow americans" stupid drones who insist on giving their support to people who hate America so much. Keep America Safe? Let's start by locking the Cheney family in Guantanamo Bay.
callouschristian 1 year ago
Military commissions are Kangaroo Courts... Saddam never had a chance during his trial, neither did the Nazis at Nuremberg.
Atheist1717 1 year ago
@Atheist1717 have you read nuremberg trial scripts?
nazi officials showed quite sharply how hypocritical circus it was :D
Darusdei 1 year ago
the al qaeda 7 should be dragged out of their luxury suites by their pierre cardin ties and pistolwhipped.
rw5791 1 year ago
that's fucking sick man!.lol rofl
sayid11111 1 year ago
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@rw5791
Have you read the constitution?
AmericanNohbuddy 1 year ago
AmericanNohbuddy;
Has obama?
rw5791 1 year ago
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What does Obama have to deal with any of this?
AmericanNohbuddy 1 year ago
huh?Erick holder is obama's boy,hello?
rw5791 1 year ago
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so they already have the names? so whats the problem. Law enforcement does this all the time. to catch a thief someitmes you hire a thief. to slip up their defense you hire someone that has done it in the past. What Bill failed to say that the guy that was released was released under the Bush admin. The leader of the group in Yemen the underwear bomber was part of was released by the Bush admin. 42 others where released by Bush and Dick cheney. Thats a fact Jack!!!!!
95tahoe1 1 year ago
She seems to be 1) asking for transparency (Who are these people?); and 2) urging a distinction between war and crime. What's wrong with that?
It's true up to a point that you shouldn't judge a lawyer by his clients, but then there are the William Kuntslers of the world. I don't want my DOJ hiring a bunch of lawyers who hate America. They should at least tell us who they are.
PolClips 1 year ago
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@PolClips
How do they hate america? They are doing their job. I think the reason why they don't reveal the names is so they don't get harassed by psychos.
AmericanNohbuddy 1 year ago
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God, she even looks like white trash. She doesn't give a damn about her country - this is all about her father's failure.
billoakesattablthree 1 year ago
You mean she looks like your mother? I don't think she resembles a pig in the least.
rsassy 1 year ago
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she is the antithesis of what america is. Fuck this treasonous lady and her war criminal father.
qualityrkc 1 year ago
Weasels like you have no clue what America is. You are scabs + cock roaches forever trailing poison like a pus filled dying animal.
rsassy 1 year ago
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Liz is dead wrong this time and Billo didn't have the balls to stop her. he wimpered a bit in the beginning to cover his ass but then he gave her all the time she needed to demonstrate pure McCarthism. Guilt by association. She's the most frightening unamerican thing here and typical of Faux News BS
earthman4u 1 year ago
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@earthman4u you're right about liz cheney, but she's been a raging loon for a long time. more attention should be enablers like oreilly and hannity and bill kristol, who actually have bigger forums to speak to people. kristol is truly a piece of work. he's the guy who dismissed anyone who thought the sunnis and shiites would go after each other if saddam were gone. "oh, that's just pop psychology." why does anyone ever put him on tv?
tishhead 1 year ago
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So she doesn't think that terrorists are criminals? Does she think they are enemy soldiers? If so, which country are you at war with? In a democracy, terrorists are criminals and should be dealt with by the police and civilian courts. In a dictatorship a terrorist may be a freedom fighter but they have no place in a democracy (unless of course it is a democracy that displeases the USA).
jameswarren 1 year ago
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Liz cheney didn't really think this one thru did she. Her "guilt by association" approach with her al-qaeda 7 ad left out ALOT of people. Based on the logic used for the false,and FUNNY ad,her dear ol dad would be right at the top of that list with "people who share al-qeada values." His admin appointed military lawyers to defend detainees. Not to mention 3 terrorist that were tried in a military court have been set free under cheney's watch. So again based on liz's logic, Liz herself is guilty.
whoyouare13 1 year ago
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Bill O'rielly is a mouth piece of terrorists!
ovaisreza 1 year ago
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She's right; clearly the best thing to do here is dismantle the rule of law. She's cut off her face to spite her nose.
whosoever 1 year ago
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Does this woman really not understand the reason for lawyers?
cmxcmx 1 year ago
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Her husband needs to be put on trial for condoning/commanding torture.
nederninja 1 year ago
I think you mean, her dad.
cmxcmx 1 year ago
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Trudat, lol. My bad.
nederninja 1 year ago
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The released southern commander of Al Qaeda
Al Awfi was the guy who trained the underwear
Christmas bomber. He was released on Cheney's watch, Dick Cheney the de facto president & father of our beloved Liz.
danger0usknowledge 1 year ago
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These lawyers acted at the behest of Bush to
defend these guys pro bono. Dick Cheney brought these guys in. **But now they are plotting
with Al Quaeda in positions high in the Obama
Justice Dept to take our freedoms & our guns**
and bla bla bla. Thank you Liz, Dick & a special thank you to Tailgunner Joe McCarthy.
Google the Steve Colbert's interview with lawyer,
Neal Katyal who defended Hamdan
& his ability to get a fair trial before the Supreme
Court.
danger0usknowledge 1 year ago
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i just threw up in my mouth a bit. evil fuckin woman trying to justify her dads war crimes
ahabthewhaler 1 year ago
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Ah O'Reilly, always the mouthpiece of the paranoid and trigger-happy.
kbman5000 1 year ago
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Talking about decisions that presidents make, tell me, wasn't the worst foreign policy decision made, the Iraq war?
robertcapuzzi 1 year ago
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A nasty, nasty, liar of a woman. She leaves out the critical information that this "Al Quaeda seven" were lawyers that were ASKED by THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION TO DEFEND THESE GUYS. The smug Cheneys of the world think that power should only rest with them. If it were up to here and people like her, there would be no courts. She was an unqualified member of the state department (see her paper thin so called resume) who got the job because of her dad. And she remains gutter trash and worthless
phillycap 1 year ago
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This witch is merely covering her father's sorry butt. And if you want proof that O'Reilly is a nut, just watch this 6 minutes of drivel. She has no qualifications. Zero. She is nasty vitriolic and nuts. What Cheney DOESN'T tell the stupid uninformed fox viewers is that the BUSH ADMINISTRATION ASKED THESE PEOPLE TO REPRESENT THESE GUYS. She's like her father, a whack job. She's certainly like her mother who is a nasty, nasty, nasty woman.
phillycap 1 year ago
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Evil hag.
AndyJLuskin 1 year ago
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LOL...A founding father, John Adams, was an attorney who defended the commanding officer of the British troops involved in the Boston Massacre. These lawyers are no more guilty of treason than he was. Cheney was once a brilliant man. Now he's just a war mongering psyhco. And that vitriolic misguided daughter of his lol....what the heck is up with the Cheney gene pool?
handsomedevill1001 1 year ago
You're exactly right, AND only 3 people were ever convicted under the military tribunal system. Far more terrorists have been convicted in civilian courts. This group makes me embarrassed to be registered as a Republican.
dave4shmups 1 year ago
so who the fuck needs you?Go back to your country club,dave4shmups.
rw5791 1 year ago
@dave4shmups It's only THIS group that makes you embarrassed to be a republican???? You have not been keeping up with the news for the past twenty or so years.
callouschristian 1 year ago
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Apparently someone dug up Senator Joe McCarthy's grave, propped up his remains, and topped it off with a blonde wig.
TheTruthHurts9999 1 year ago
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liz continues to forget that 9/11 happened on Dick and Bush's watch!!! how's that working out for your 'keep America safe' delusional illusion!!!
Mutedvox 1 year ago
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Hamdan was tried in a military court and acquitted of the more serious terrorism charge. He was found guilty of the "providing material support" charge, and sentenced to 5 -1/2 years, with credit for the five years he had already been held.
So what is Cheney's point? That we should just line up and shoot anyone we capture? Most of the Gitmo detainees were innocent, and about 500 have been released.
Heraldblog 1 year ago
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Liz Cheney has no shame. Her positions are despicable and she is making it absolutely clear that she is an idiot.
pgutermann 1 year ago
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Yup! Total, unending war! That's the solution. Won't prevent a single terrorist act, but it sure works well as a boot stamping on a human face forever. Legal rights? Pfft, that's the OLD America.
villa72 1 year ago
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As the man said, if you want an image of the future, picture a boot stampin on a human face...forever.
KrzyCanuck 1 year ago
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What a load of BS this awful women spews. Please join your father in his secret evil lair.
bushkilla666 1 year ago
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The Cheneys are disgusting, and would fit in better in a leadership position in Stalin's Russia. Too bad those times have passed us by, huh Liz?
fiend780 1 year ago
Holder reminds me of a ferrit.
tenorismo 1 year ago
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Ferret
Heraldblog 1 year ago
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He laughs at her.
"The Al-Qaeda Seven muhaha"
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Reqrezentin 1 year ago
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How come she isn't embarrassed?
HER NAME IS CHENEY!
Reqrezentin 1 year ago
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Dick Cheney is a traitor, and his daughter is not far behind.
judoyodan 1 year ago
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Like father, like daughter.
Disgusting Cheneys.
DixieDale 1 year ago
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Its people like this who would rewrite the Constitution, to fit their goals, under the power of fear. It is people like this, who if in power, would label anyone with opposing views as an un-American traitor....and we know that anyone who doesnt agree with them must be a terror sympathizer, and terrorists can be imprisoned or executed without trial by their way of thinking, She is the type of mind who would choose to lock up dissenters and those who disagree. The ones she calls un-America.Evil!
MickMan211 1 year ago
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even Bill had to laugh at this foolishness.
smokenchill 1 year ago
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Liz makes me sick. K.A.S. is nothing more than a McCarthy-esque attack on the American tradition of free and fair trial. What other alternative is there? Execution without trial? That's called MURDER and it violates the Geneva Convention. To kill a man in the field of battle is little more than doing your duty; to kill a man who is at your mercy without trial is a war crime. Even the Nazi butchers at Auschwitz had defense counsel as was the only way to insure JUSTICE was served.
BeerMan5000 1 year ago
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I look forward to the day when her torture loving father is in jail. Let us not forget that it was her father and Bush in charge when 9/11/01 happen, but if you listen to these clowns you'd think Bush and Cheney kept us safe. REALLY LIZZIE? Your father kept us safe. I think their are 3000 family's in America who would tell you 'YOUR FULL OF SHIT BITCH" your dad and Bush where told Al Qa'ida was planning to attack us 1 month before they did and they did nothing about it Fuck Liz & her RETARD DAD
specialjr11 1 year ago
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good on those lawyers for representing those people
aSuperbadassninja 1 year ago
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That wasn't even the right picture of KSM.
Uniteusall 1 year ago
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evil bitch....
the cheneys are an embarrassment to the US. americans should put them away and not give them public forum to make asses of themselves while representing the US.
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
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Liz Cheney and her father have always bothered me, but with this latest contention that lawyers who defended terrorists might harbor the same beliefs as the terrorists, for the first time, makes me feel sorry for both of them .
How tragic that they live their lives seeing the world as they do.
graymagic1 1 year ago
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We should let the terrorist suspect go...since there's plenty more where they came from...and indict Dick and Dickless instead. These people are nuts!
OmarThePug 1 year ago
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Liz Cheney is compared to Eugene McCarthy by her fellow conservatives. Says it all, really.
Even the conservatives know that Liz and Dick are a threat to America.
Keep America safe. Jail the Cheneys.
teriandjack 1 year ago
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@teriandjack Jailing Liz for being a paranoid fear-monger and dishonest propagandist isn't reasonable.
BeerMan5000 1 year ago
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perhaps medicating her or keeping her foolish BS in context instead, then?
funincluded 1 year ago
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I don't think medicine can fix what's wrong with that lady.
BeerMan5000 1 year ago
Ummm. You mean Joe McCarthy, Wisconsin Republican, not Eugene McCarthy, progressive presidential candidate.
dalaimama212 1 year ago
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Wait - wasn't this guy's dad in the last administration?
drernie3000 1 year ago
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Good one! Ha!
bushkilla666 1 year ago
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When John Adams (signer of the constitution and US president) represented Brittish Torries accused of murder in the prelude to the American revolution he was being a traitor to his country, right? Also, he won the case. Too bad Liz and her Dick of a dad were not there to waterboard the Torries. The US could have saved on the costs of the trial.
finerbiner 1 year ago
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she doesnt want civilian trials or lawyers familiar with terrorist networks, because that might leak information to the public, during the course of trial, things that might give a bit more insight into what happened before 9/11. our Government once funded the Mujahadeen against the Soviet Union..they later came back as Taliban/al Queda, and flew planes into the world trade center. What happened in between? What other contacts were made in Afghanistan leading up to 9/11 and what was the purpose?
MickMan211 1 year ago
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i see people like this using the word terror alot..but they are USING terror as a political tool to frighten, and gain support from, short minded people. And it works!! I mean, look, if a terrorist kills five people it is on Fox News forever..but every day in the USA around 250 people are brutally murdered by violent criminals. Nothing said on the news..hmm the real danger to Americans is criminals, many created from the failed, trillion dollar, War on Drugs..another right wing fear tool.
MickMan211 1 year ago
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Liz Cheney from Keeping America Scared..what a crock of crap she is...you know why? the biggest threat to Americans is not foreign terrorists!!! It is regular drug addicted scum, who murder Americans everyday. Its the thug waiting in the parking lot to kill you for your wallet and car keys. Its the child predators who abduct untold numbers of children every day. Its the gangs that roam US streets. These are are MUCH MUCH greater threat to our people, but it isnt political, so not important.
MickMan211 1 year ago
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She doesnt really share any good qualities..just an attention whore, really, riding her name for all its worth. She doesnt care about anyones safety but her own, and shes no patriot..or is she?
MickMan211 1 year ago
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Liz Cheney truly represents that intolerant, fearful, bitter, predudiced, narrow minded, self righteous spirit of the Founding Fathers
MickMan211 1 year ago
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the only reason i say this is because the right seems to be saying Founding Fathers alot lately..how they want to follow those ideals...watch palin on founding fathers..beck..o reilly..my post was just another take on that, and not lies.
MickMan211 1 year ago
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The cowardice of GOPers would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic and dangerous
puttymudduck 1 year ago
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*famous quote
"fanaticism and ignorance is forever busy"
People like Liz are very dangerous and 'we the people' need to fight back against this rhetoric.
pamiety 1 year ago
Another solid, unflappable appearance. Liz Cheney, your country needs YOU to lead it. Star running for high office. Now.
kpmxyz 1 year ago
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ha ha ha ha
MickMan211 1 year ago
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I think we should kill all terrorists..but I dont think people should walk around being afraid of terrorism, any more than we should be worried about being killed by a drunk driver or common criminal.
MickMan211 1 year ago
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Liz Cheney from Keeping America Scared..what a crock of crap she is...you know why? the biggest threat to Americans is not foreign terrorists!!! It is regular drug addicted scum, who murder Americans everyday. Its the thug waiting in the parking lot to kill you for your wallet and car keys. Its the child predators who abduct untold numbers of children every day. Its the gangs that roam US streets. These are are MUCH MUCH greater threat to our people, but it isnt political, so not important.
MickMan211 1 year ago
more people commit suicide in the US than homicide
drlax15m 1 year ago
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Homicide is far worse though...you wanna take your life, go ahead, but dont affect others lives, or you shall indeed forfeit yours, and justly.
MickMan211 1 year ago
Liz Cheney is exemplifying this country at its finest. I don't want any terrorist sympathizers in the Justice Department or White House for that fact.
thomist36 1 year ago
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The Cheneys are traitors to this country for dividing people through the use of fear and hysteria, not to mention false patriotism.
MickMan211 1 year ago
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Liz Cheney exemplifies political opportunism at it worst. DOJ attorneys represent more than just their clients - they also represent and defend the American criminal justice system. They are no more "al Qaeda sympathizers" than the defense lawyer who represented Jeffrey Dahmer was a "cannibal sympathizer." Tell me you're not too stoopid to understand that much.
Heraldblog 1 year ago
Liz Cheney is right as usual
LizzyxDarcy 1 year ago 3
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yea, right
MickMan211 1 year ago
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John Adams defended the British soldiers in the Boston Massacre. Would Liz despise him too?
And what's up with this final 7 stuff? Reminded me of Battlestar Galactica.
Trollmaster21 1 year ago
Youre talking apples and oranges
We were part of the British government at that time, so Adams was defending our soldiers, not foreign terrorists.
LizzyxDarcy 1 year ago
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@ LizzyxDarcy you're wrong. I'm sure Liz Cheney would despise John Adams and support mob rule.
And what's wrong with a fair trial? Do you prefer a kangaroo courts like Stalin did where innocent people are thrown in prison?
Neocons have no legitimate reason to exist or govern, and Liz is just making up reasons to disagree with Obama.
And I'll easily respect the opinion of Gen Petraeus about this sort of topic over any untrustworthy neocon. What does he say about these issues?
Trollmaster21 1 year ago
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It's more comparing green apples to red apples.
The American colonists saw British soldiers as the enemy, not as our buddies.
The act of John Adams defending those that were despised by the colonists, demonstrates the need for a fair trial for everyone.
These 2 examples are far more similar than different. I know right wingers would love to twist this and claim otherwise, but they've never been right about anything and their leadership was a proven failure.
Trollmaster21 1 year ago
TWA 800 blew up during Ramzi Yousef's (the 1993 WTC bomber) civilian trial, explosive residue was found adjacent to the center wing fuel tank, Yousef tried to get a mistrial declared the next day, his uncle KSM continued Yousef's planes as missiles plot, treating this enemy as a pure law enforcement criminal matter is clearly not appropriate
drlax15m 1 year ago
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These Tea Party Protesters DO embody the spirit of our Founding Fathers, who commited a genocide against the Native American people who had populated North America for 20,000 years. They exemplify the spirit of the Founding Fathers and true Patriots who implemented widespread slavery and oppression as an institution. They have the same spirit of their ancestors who burned witches in Salem, and forced non traditional religions to flee west or be persecuted. Their spirit is alive and well among us
MickMan211 1 year ago
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@MickMan211
You seem to be getting a lot of thumbs down just for speaking the truth. It seems US Americans don`t like hearing uncomfortable truths much like the Turks are in denial about the Armeinian genocide.
It`s sad how blind patriotism blinds and deafens people in to becoming liars and hipocrites.
I suppose that`s conservatism.
Keep doing what you do!
PhilipPorter 1 year ago
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Thanks..truth is truth...
MickMan211 1 year ago
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What dont you agree with about this comment? Where is my lie?
MickMan211 1 year ago
She does a deed by exposing these actions we may not otherwise know about.
lenny380 1 year ago
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Hey Liz how come you're not complaining about the NYC terror trial now? Oh yeah, it's because Atty Gen Holder got a full confession and cooperation from the suspect. You were wrong and you harped on it for months. You and Fox News, your little right-wing whores. Wrong about everything as usual.
APOLOGIZE YOU ANTI-AMERICAN BITCH!!
TheRamenAvenger 1 year ago
You have no idea what you are talking about idiot. The NYC terror trials involve Khaled Sheik Muhammad, who had confessed before the trial even started. There is no reason to give foreign terrorists trials in the United States.
mattmillburn 1 year ago 2
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So what are you afraid of, Matt? I thought red-blooded real American like you had faith in American institutions.
Heraldblog 1 year ago
Giving foreign terrorists civilian trials will give them access to information that will damage national security. There is a reason why military commissions exist. Khaled Sheik Muhammad is not a U.S. citizen and was captured in Pakistan. How did he get constitutional rights? If he murdered people in Afghanistan and was captured by the U.S. military he would not get a civilian trial, but because he murdered Americans he gets a civilian trial. Explain to me how this makes sense.
mattmillburn 1 year ago
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"Explain to me how this makes sense."
It makes sense because the alternative is so much worse. Face it, Matt, you don't even want a trial for terror suspects. You just want them dead.
You say you like military courts, but if you compare the records of tribunals and civilian courts during the Bush admin, you'd see the rate of conviction in civilian court was better. I suspect what you really want is a kangaroo court and a firing squad.
You really have no faith in US justice, do you Matt?
Heraldblog 1 year ago
Heraldblog, you are wrong in saying I don't want trials for terror suspects. I just don't want trials in U.S. civilian courts. You didn't explain how it makes sense to try a foreign terrorist captured in Pakistan in U.S. civilian courts. How is the alternative worse? During World War II would do you think the U.S. should have tried captured Nazi soldiers in U.S. civilian courts? If not, then why not?
mattmillburn 1 year ago
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Captured Nazi soldiers enjoyed Geneva convention protection i during WWII. That's more that KSM, Jose Padilla, or any of the 700 plus GItmo employees received. The German spies that were nabbed in Long Island in 1942 received military trials, as did the Wermacht soldiers caught in Allied uniforms during the Ardennes offensive.
So you want military tribunals? Why? Their record from 2001-2008 was no better than civilian courts.
Heraldblog 1 year ago
Actually, Nazi soldiers did not have Geneva Convention protection as the Geneva Conventions did not exist yet. You mention how German spies received military trials, why should this be different?
I want military trials because I don't want terrorists to have access to our intelligence.
mattmillburn 1 year ago
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what intelligence?
why does that matter?
they'll be put behind bars anyways
why not just dismantle the rule of law and hang the suspects out in the streets?
so much for "democracy" and "freedom"
qdot9 1 year ago
In civilian trials the terrorists would get access to information that is used to convict them. It could reveal secrets of how intelligence is collected. Do you really not see any problem with informing al Qaeda about how information is collected on al Qaeda? It doesn't matter if they are behind bars, they will still have the ability to communicate to their fellow terrorists. Civilian trials have never been used to foreign combatants caught on the battlefield.
mattmillburn 1 year ago
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Really? Because the Bush admin tried over 100 terror suspects. Reagan insisted on civilian trials for terrorists because a military tribunal would only legitimize terrorists as soldiers. Treat terrorists like the criminals they are, was Reagan's thinking, rather than entertain their fantasy that they are real soldiers.
Heraldblog 1 year ago
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The trial in NY would be better than a military trial. Look at the records. !00+ terrorist were tried and convicted in civilian courts are are currently being held in super max prisons. Now the military tirals on the other hand. Out of all the people tried in a military tribunal,3 have already been released,thanks to bush,cheny. Out of those three,2 went back to terrorism and one helped train the xmas day bomber. Civilian trials are better than military.
whoyouare13 1 year ago
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There are sufficient safeguards in place to keep secrets during a civilian trial. Not everything you hear on Fox News is accurate.
Heraldblog 1 year ago
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"I want military trials because I don't want terrorists to have access to our intelligence"
That's a new one for me. What the hell does that even mean?
AmericanNohbuddy 1 year ago
It's called discovery. It happens in every trial. Or did you think prosecution would just say "take our word for it"?
noiwudnttrip 1 year ago
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WHAT A DECEPTIVE AND VINDICTIVE BITCH
MickMan211 1 year ago
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This woman is beyond shame. A Cheney family trait, it seems
Disgusting.
zuzukachoo 1 year ago
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And hyperbole. And way to the right of most Americans.
eddiemaxblack 1 year ago
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Fox News is a filthy, disgusting, rotted toilet that overflows with revolting vomit and excrement that pretends to be information. Its a grotesque and an outright embarrassment.
btc8128 1 year ago