i love how people think doing simple parididdles at fast speed is skill. as gavin calls them, just gimicks that "we" all know how to do. dbl snare dbl tom dbl tom dbl snare. all that stuff is basic just speed up. gavin has a control that is absolutely astounding. My favorite drummer is Danny Carey but gavin in my mind is a better drummer, i just like danny's unique and impressive creativity and polyrythms. his music is true yoga. Thomas Haake is another one. his feet blow portnoy away
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL I knew you would make fun of me for forgetting that you're not the uploader of this video by checking if you blocked me so I just wanted to nip that in the bud right now and come clean with that slight miscalculation.
@jeppe1208 It's only because the people who come looking for real quality drum recordings cant resist seeing what all the fuss is about. I admit I looked. I still don't know. lol Gavin, though. Yeah. He's excellent
@MrRandompower I believe the basic structure of the fills he's playing at 2:50 is RLLRRLR with a triplet feel, and maybe along with combinations of RLL (or LRR) and RLRRLL
@MrRandompower its a kind of paradidle in a triplet feel with really good use of ghost notes and solid accents , if u wanna learn to do something like that i will suggest you to start using single strokes and get the accents right , then u will actually be getting the sticking right because u will see with what hand he does his accents. its complicated to get the exact fill but u can get really close to it after he is gavin harrison lol
@MrRandompower It's RLRRL in triplets...I fill Gavin does A LOT! He sometimes also adds a kick to the end of it to make it RLRRLK. The thing he does next, the RLRRLLKK is something he does A LOT too. :)
I don't care who you are, and how long you've been playing "match grip", but at some point, all drummers who play jazz will inevitably switch to "traditional grip" ( a la 1:25 ).
I'm a guitarist, and STILL am influenced by gavin harrison. He offers so much in his rhythmic diversity that it would be wise for ANY musician to study his work, ESPECIALLY for composers
I don't think many people out there can show Gavin up. He plays anything for one, an he plays it f'n good. Watch his interviews an you'll see why he is the way he is. Nuff said. Rock on GH
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL Also, it's important to note that musicality is more important than technical difficulty. Look at Gavin's solo on Letterman. The best part is when he played straight triplets with his hands between the toms and the snare. Everyone cheered for that but didn't do so when he was doing fancy cymbal work. I've shown people Virgil Donati and Mike Portnoy vids back to back and everyone thinks that Portnoy is better. So judging based on a solo MP is top tier.
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL But isn't the point of a drum solo to excite your audiance? It's all about flash and bang, not about how many rudiments you can play over x amount of ostinatos. Why I think Portnoy is better at soloing than Virgil: Virgil, for me tends to play boring (but incredibly complicated) pieces when he solos. It's as if he's auditioning in front of drumming experts or something. Portnoy is like Mikkey D - a specialist who's solos are robustly combosed and energetic
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL I should have said like MP and Spears but I ran out of room. Anyway, whenever Portnoy comes up with a fill by jaw drops. Whenever Donati comes up with a fill my jaw often drops but occassionally I will be left sitting there windering why he played that particular fill. His stuff is complicated but he just doesn't have the feel of Portnoy in terms of prog rock drumming. Technically and rythmically superior as he may be, feel is most important thing to me.
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL I would pick Portnoy over Gavin any day in a solo competition. Most people probably would unless they were trying to do something stupid like judge on technical merit instead of sound quality. What matters most is how you sound, not the difficulty level of the piece. If you're playing 7 ostinatos Mike Mangini style but you sound like shit, then you've utterly failed. That being said, Gavin has a better feel than MP and is a better functional drummer.
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL I hate to run on and on here and I don't mean to be disrespectful. I know it's not every day you see someone on youtube actually show respect for another person but...meh. So anyway, haven't you noticed that Portnoy has an unparalleled ability to put hand-to-foot combinations together? I mean, no one can do this as well as him. He also has an incredible feel for rock as I'm sure you know. But again I stress, as a solo artist he is unparalleled.
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL Bobby can't touch Portnoy. I love his work but really? His feel is utter crap in comparison. And Chambers, Weckl, and Novak could never play Dance of Eternity or A Nightmare to Remember so I would hesitate to elevate them. Heck, look at the recent vids where Weckl and Portnoy are on the same stage. Portnoy just blows him away. Granted Weckl was doing some soft jazz stuff trying to showcase his symbols but it's not like Mike wasn't holding back either.
@metalmike83 WHAT!?!?! Dude, seriously, are you even a drummer? If so, how long and what university did you attend because if you think Portnoy is better than Bobby you know very little about drumming. And you honestly think Portnoy blew Weckl away??? Now THAT is the most ridiculous statement I've ever read on youtube for real. Then you make claims comparing Chambers to Portnoy? Nah, you're not a drummer. You're a Portnoy fan who knows little about music. Done with this silly conversation.
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL Okay, so you haven't blocked me. But it sure was fun watching throw a tantrum like a 4 year old girl who just pissed her panties. I know what happened to you man - you went to some faggoty "university" who taught you that Buddy Rich was the best drummer of all time because he could play on the snare at a mile a minute. They probably told you not to use a double pedal too. Now I can see you in a lame folk band never raising your stick more than a foot.
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL If you already don't know for a fact that Mike Portnoy is better than Buddy Rich in some ways, then I have to seriously question whether or not your IQ score would fall into the triple digits. I mean, it's so painfully obvious to anyone who's not a complete fucking mongoloid that these drummers just have different skill sets. Stop talking about slapping boogers and stop throwing tantrums just because someone who's only 28 dwarfts your logic and knowledge.
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL Bobby sounds like a second tier drummer compared to Portnoy. And Priester literally is way too one-dimensional to even be compared. He couldn't handle the odd times that DT threw at him. Stuff that Mike can eat for breakfast. You can make an argument about Virgil being better but the fact is that Mike has a way better feeling for music than Thomas Lang or Priester. Next you will claim something retarded like Roddy is better than Portnoy, or something.
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL I think you need to seriously sit down and work out a few logic problems. Because, right now you sound like a deluded creationist who thinks the earth is 6000 years old. You can't seem to understand that Weckl and Vinnie can't be considered better than Portnoy because they simply can't play the stuff he can. Show me one example of Weckl or Vinnie getting the double bass speed on a Nightmare To Remember or Honor Thy Father. Do that or don't even reply.
@metalmike83 Sorry, don´t be offended, but i can play Honor Thy Father and Nightmare To Remember (not flawless). But i have realy ploblems to sound good at Jazz and some Songs of some Gavin Harrison or Rosetta Stoned of Tool. I´m not a good drummer, but i can play most Dream Theater songs. What´s that saying? I´m not able to create that stuff. Mike is realy a great drummer, but don´t make him godlike. There is always a younger (sometimes older) one who is better.
@rockdahaus I don't believe that anyone who isn't a good drummer can actually play those songs. Sure, you can keep the beat of those songs - but can you play all of the nuances; the complex fills and double bass parts? If so, then you are gifted in the area of double bass. I have been playing for many years - I can play jazz tunes and Tool songs but I cannot touch the double bass of Nightmare To Remember. I doubt you really can. Also, try Dance of Eternity - it's impossibly hard.
@metalmike83 As i wrote befor, i can play that songs NOT flawless. The easy part is the fast double bass... for me (i´m not very fast, max. 16th on 230 (some day 240) pbm for 30 seconds). I have problems on other parts... the little things and some fills. I grow up with Slayer. Dave Lombardo is not a technical complex drummer, but he plays in a nice way, and with fast feed. Tool is fun to drum to. But in this moment, my body is fuckt up, pins and needles in my hands. :-(
@rockdahaus But if even if you could play those songs flawlessly; that doesn't erase the fact that the vast majority of jazz drummers are incapable of doing so themselves. Dave Weckl could never handle the intro to a Nightmare to Remember - the double bass is just too fast. So, in the end it really is just a case of apples and oranges.
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL You can't fucking compare apples and organges like this. It's like comparing fuckin' Peter Earskin to Gene Hoglan. Sure, Peter is way more rudimental in his drumming and can play jazz. But Gene's feet are unparalleled and for the style of music he plays, he's better than Peter in every way. Your problem lies with the fact that you can't accept Metal being just as valid as jazz. You therefore value the jazz drummers more. I blame whatever school you went to
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL And nobody fucking plays hand-to-foot combinations as good as Portnoy. He's made it an art unto itself. That combined with his quick feet and amazing feel for prog rock make him an elite drummer in the same way that Buddy Rich's ability to swing and play big band tunes made him an eltie drummer. But the fact is, guys who play like Buddy now can't touch the rock stuff and vice versa. You should know that. Mike Portnoy would destroy any prof you know.
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL Mike Portnoy's feel blows Mangini's out of the water. Just go read the comments on any Mangini video. Everyone fucking says that Portnoy's better. Why? Because he's way smoother and has a better feel for what he's doing. Mangini sounds boring as fuck - despite all his ostinatos and polyrythms. Again, if you want a drummer who is truly superior, Gavin would be your man. I only say that because he literally has everything Portnoy does and then some.
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL But until I see guys like Gary Novak and Peter Earskin pulling off the double bass parts in Honor Thy Father. In fact, until I see ANYONE you mentioned aside from Virgil, Priester, and Lang actually able to play that, I will never consider them better. Why? Because it takes years of dedication to be able to pull it off. Much like it takes years of dedication to play jazz. Metal is just as much music as jazz is. Get over it and grow the fuck up.
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL Stop listening to those faggoty, uppidy know-nothing profs who could never play a hard Dream Theater tune or a Mike Protnoy solo if their life depended on it. They are stuck up, arrogant semi-retarded, illogical prunes who are jealous of guys like Mike who play them away on pretty much any level aside from being able to play the fucking jazz ride pattern. Think for yourself. Just because the information comes from a "university" doesn't make it good.
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL There's no way you can compare those guys to Portnoy. I mean, it's two completely different styles. I can sooner play Dennis Chambers than I can play Portnoy let's put it that way. You have to remember that Mike does some amazing work with his feet. He doesn't use triggers either which makes it that much more impressive. But yeah.Denis can't play the fills from "Nightmare" nor can he play the slow double bass parts. He's a jazz drummer. Apples and oranges.
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL Aquiles could take lessons from Portnoy. I mean, he utterly failed the tests Dream Theater threw at him. He's a faster double bass guy but he's not nearly as good at odd times and doesn't have Portnoy's amazing feel for rock music. And I've watched Buddy Rich and Tony Williams play. Quite frankly Portnoy's technical ability is so far above theirs that you're basically comparing a model-T (Buddy Rich) to a Ferrari (Portnoy). Jazz isn't better just because.
@metalmike83 Dude, seriously. Both Virgil and Thomas Lang had trouble with Portnoy's music. That puts him in their league like it or not. You're focusing too much on mechanics and technique instead of overall playing ability, rythmic ability and feel. Those hoity toity jazz fruitcakes who teach an universities like to pretend that jazz somehow makes you a better drummer. They are delusional at best and could never hope to cover Dream Theater.
@metalmike83 Playing jazz doesn't make you any better. It just makes you better at playing jazz. Tony Williams would respect Portnoy for his abilities and I know Portnoy respects Tony Williams. You seem to be falling into the trap of "it's jazz and therefore superior". The fact is that you and me can likely play rudiments beyond Portnoy but he can still kick our ass with his overall ability. Playing rudiments doesn't automatically make you better.
@metalmike83 Okay dude you're a friggin moron. I can't even be civil to you. Priester failed as did Marco and Virgil and other who were better than Mike. And I've NEVER heard ANYONE say such stupid things like Portnoy's anything was better than Buddy Rich. LOL Dude you're brain dead all the way home. I was really thinking you were joking earlier, but to see that you're serious lets me know you know nothing. I've played 35 years. And you? Are you even a drummer? I literally have to block you.
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL Again, I'm not trying to overwhelm you with a response you can't rebut. I know that can be annoying but I'm just trying to explain myself. You see, I used to think that drummers like Virgil Donati, Thomas Lang etc were far superior to Portnoy. But everytime I would watch their solos back to back I would always come away thinking Portnoy was better. How could I explain this? He's simply the best at what he does.
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL Now Gavin can do everything Portnoy can do and then some; he's far more versatile as you said and he can play many different genres with a feel that really no one else can duplicate. He's simply one of the best overall drummers on the planet. He's just not as creative when he solos. To me, the two most creative solo artists are Portnoy and Royster Jr. Now as far as functional drumming goes, Gavin has Portnoy whooped.
@BruisedEyeSockets Jazz takes much more skill to play than any other music out there. Any idiot can play a 4/4 rock beat, or tap a guitar solo really fast. Jazz is where the real musicians are at.
@zepfan2012 Wow, how arrogant of you to say.. Who cares about skill? Well, other than people who jerk off to GH videos.. Anyway, any 'real' musician would agree it's also about the feeling of music. Like I said, style. Any prick can swing, learn theory & improvise in different modes, you're forgetting. I played in a combo for 6 years. But if it sounds like shit, then you really shouldn't have a reason to get your dick wet over jazz.
man, is he awesome or what.ive watched weckl,colaiuta,gadd,buddy rich,greb and countless many others.but this dudes amazing.hes different.i dunno what makes him so different.its like you appreciate every note he plays.from the ghost notes to the accents.everything can be heard.buttery smooth.
I might say any Carnatic music is tougher than jazz or prog, at least IMO. Playing classically WELL is also difficult as hell. But eastern harmonies can be more complex to look at the way we've been brought up.
one of the most versatile drummers on the planet. Listening to his instructional videos is like taking a class from a mad scientist-of drumming! Subdividing to the nth degree. Any rock drummer who doesn't think jazz is difficult is so clueless that they can't be helped. What a musician Gavin is.
@metabog AND I HAPPYLY HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT ALL THOSE TINY CYMBALS ARE CRASHES CUTTED !!!!!! SO IF YOU HAVE A COUPLE CRASHES CRACKED, DON´T DOUBT TO CUT THEM BETWEEN 4 AND 6 INCHES, SOUNDS GREAT!!! I HAVE MY CUSTOM CHIMES AS GAVIN DOES!
@astroandyborgloh They're from crash cymbals. They all have the medium cup size which is standard for Zildjian 14", 17", 18" etc cymbals from the 80s.
I have to admit, i kinda borrowed that technique of ghosting with fingers and used it in a solo i played at school. Everyone was like 'Wow how'd you come up with that?'
I just love how Harrison uses the double bass, not as most metal musicians, but with complete control and smoothness that makes it sound tasteful in even jazz. Its inspiring even to a trumpet player (as I am).
i dont particularly like it. I mean, he's really good, really really good, but his vocab was very limited... at first i thought, ok modern style, then okay he can swing (really well), then his solo comes and it was modern again... idk I would've prefered he got a bit better swing and stuck with it throughout. with that said, hes much better than me in any style but he has high standards and he should've waited for the next clinic so he could've been a bit better.
@FockerTheLopper yeah i can understand where you're coming from, but again this like a modernized style of this song so listening to this song and comparing it to the old one is a bit of a stretch, but by no means wrong. I prefer to just take it as it is, a great performance. His interpretation of the chart and yours will differ and that's absolutely fine. I'm not sure what you mean about him waiting to go the next clinic, this was the year they asked him, there's no reason for him not to go
@themaliced well my main criticism is that 1) he goes back and fourth from the modern to old style and his old style isn't strong enough (by his standards), so if he kept it contemporary the whole through I wouldn't mind. If you notice him swinging he only had like 2 or 3 things he knew how to play and he just kept playing them... idk this isn't worth arguing, he's a great drummer I'm just a bit dissapointed that he performed this
If you think you can play it too... press 0:12 and hear the reaction!
Eddie147741 2 weeks ago 4
Harrison drums like a white person.
MlKEPORNTOY 2 weeks ago
i love how people think doing simple parididdles at fast speed is skill. as gavin calls them, just gimicks that "we" all know how to do. dbl snare dbl tom dbl tom dbl snare. all that stuff is basic just speed up. gavin has a control that is absolutely astounding. My favorite drummer is Danny Carey but gavin in my mind is a better drummer, i just like danny's unique and impressive creativity and polyrythms. his music is true yoga. Thomas Haake is another one. his feet blow portnoy away
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@AMERICASMANRONPAUL I knew you would make fun of me for forgetting that you're not the uploader of this video by checking if you blocked me so I just wanted to nip that in the bud right now and come clean with that slight miscalculation.
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I hate the fact that the video "Justin Bieber Drum Solo at David Letterman" in the related videos list, has twice as many views than this.
jeppe1208 3 months ago 3
@jeppe1208 I like to let idiots have their simple boring music and just thank my stars every day that bands like Porcupine Tree aren't 'popular'.
JetpackSniper085 2 months ago
@jeppe1208 It's only because the people who come looking for real quality drum recordings cant resist seeing what all the fuss is about. I admit I looked. I still don't know. lol Gavin, though. Yeah. He's excellent
cjonesufc 2 months ago
First time i heard this guy play>
i was saying to myself
he must be playing Jazz
He Gooves!!
i mean that swings!!
INcredible!!
Fabelnegros 3 months ago
@Fabelnegros If you haven't yet, click the link on the right for "The Chicken (drum solo).Just incredible
cjonesufc 2 months ago
Ich will die Noten haben!!! bitte :(
MsPlexiglas 3 months ago
time for dubstep remix!!!
etipp283 4 months ago
thats just awesome :)
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The fills he starts doing at 2:50 , is that called something? i really want to learn that!
MrRandompower 5 months ago
The fills he starts doing at 2:50 , is that called something? i really want to learn that!
MrRandompower 5 months ago 2
@MrRandompower I think it's a paradiddlediddle, and variations, I'll hopefully let you know in a day or two ;)
kjelici9 3 months ago
@MrRandompower I believe the basic structure of the fills he's playing at 2:50 is RLLRRLR with a triplet feel, and maybe along with combinations of RLL (or LRR) and RLRRLL
tambourDOM 3 months ago
@MrRandompower its a kind of paradidle in a triplet feel with really good use of ghost notes and solid accents , if u wanna learn to do something like that i will suggest you to start using single strokes and get the accents right , then u will actually be getting the sticking right because u will see with what hand he does his accents. its complicated to get the exact fill but u can get really close to it after he is gavin harrison lol
Sp4rk3rm3n 3 months ago
@MrRandompower It's RLRRL in triplets...I fill Gavin does A LOT! He sometimes also adds a kick to the end of it to make it RLRRLK. The thing he does next, the RLRRLLKK is something he does A LOT too. :)
CameronADD 1 month ago
Happy birthday, Miles. This should make you proud.
mashedchicken22 5 months ago
no, hang on sorry i meant the traditional grip hahaha
phatkizza707 6 months ago
this is proof that you dont need the match grip for jazz.
phatkizza707 6 months ago
if I just could eat or hug or whatever those... 2:50 -
h6ss4 6 months ago
YEA
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Gavin Harrison = BIG PERFECTION & BIGGEST LOVE. congratulations mickeyBY
MICKEYborut 6 months ago
Double bass fills in a Miles tune would only be a sin if anyone else was playing them.
therealmusician2112 7 months ago 7
that poly-rhythm thing at the end blew my mind
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YorkshireYarns 7 months ago
I don't care who you are, and how long you've been playing "match grip", but at some point, all drummers who play jazz will inevitably switch to "traditional grip" ( a la 1:25 ).
dfdrox 7 months ago
I'm a guitarist, and STILL am influenced by gavin harrison. He offers so much in his rhythmic diversity that it would be wise for ANY musician to study his work, ESPECIALLY for composers
porchmonkey401k 7 months ago 31
I'm exhausted from watching this just now..
obi0peco 7 months ago
I know he grew up with Jazz but for someone that's noted for their jazz playing he still has pretty lovely touch and feel.
Crusada54 8 months ago
5 r Lars Ülrich with different accounts...
h6ss4 8 months ago
@h6ss4 Joke whore. Be embarrassed.
ndw9311 8 months ago 3
Modal jazz & Gavin Harrison.
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This is sooo damn good!!
6SuicideKisses 8 months ago
I don't think many people out there can show Gavin up. He plays anything for one, an he plays it f'n good. Watch his interviews an you'll see why he is the way he is. Nuff said. Rock on GH
2112Benny 8 months ago
mike portnoy has much more veiws than gavin, gavin is soo much better !
speckytom 8 months ago 40
@speckytom maybe a bit better but not that much...he can do everything Portnoy can and then some though...
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AMERICASMANRONPAUL 1 month ago
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL Also, it's important to note that musicality is more important than technical difficulty. Look at Gavin's solo on Letterman. The best part is when he played straight triplets with his hands between the toms and the snare. Everyone cheered for that but didn't do so when he was doing fancy cymbal work. I've shown people Virgil Donati and Mike Portnoy vids back to back and everyone thinks that Portnoy is better. So judging based on a solo MP is top tier.
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AMERICASMANRONPAUL 1 month ago
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL But isn't the point of a drum solo to excite your audiance? It's all about flash and bang, not about how many rudiments you can play over x amount of ostinatos. Why I think Portnoy is better at soloing than Virgil: Virgil, for me tends to play boring (but incredibly complicated) pieces when he solos. It's as if he's auditioning in front of drumming experts or something. Portnoy is like Mikkey D - a specialist who's solos are robustly combosed and energetic
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AMERICASMANRONPAUL 1 month ago
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL I should have said like MP and Spears but I ran out of room. Anyway, whenever Portnoy comes up with a fill by jaw drops. Whenever Donati comes up with a fill my jaw often drops but occassionally I will be left sitting there windering why he played that particular fill. His stuff is complicated but he just doesn't have the feel of Portnoy in terms of prog rock drumming. Technically and rythmically superior as he may be, feel is most important thing to me.
metalmike83 1 month ago
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL I would pick Portnoy over Gavin any day in a solo competition. Most people probably would unless they were trying to do something stupid like judge on technical merit instead of sound quality. What matters most is how you sound, not the difficulty level of the piece. If you're playing 7 ostinatos Mike Mangini style but you sound like shit, then you've utterly failed. That being said, Gavin has a better feel than MP and is a better functional drummer.
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@AMERICASMANRONPAUL I hate to run on and on here and I don't mean to be disrespectful. I know it's not every day you see someone on youtube actually show respect for another person but...meh. So anyway, haven't you noticed that Portnoy has an unparalleled ability to put hand-to-foot combinations together? I mean, no one can do this as well as him. He also has an incredible feel for rock as I'm sure you know. But again I stress, as a solo artist he is unparalleled.
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AMERICASMANRONPAUL 1 month ago
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL Bobby can't touch Portnoy. I love his work but really? His feel is utter crap in comparison. And Chambers, Weckl, and Novak could never play Dance of Eternity or A Nightmare to Remember so I would hesitate to elevate them. Heck, look at the recent vids where Weckl and Portnoy are on the same stage. Portnoy just blows him away. Granted Weckl was doing some soft jazz stuff trying to showcase his symbols but it's not like Mike wasn't holding back either.
metalmike83 1 month ago
@metalmike83 WHAT!?!?! Dude, seriously, are you even a drummer? If so, how long and what university did you attend because if you think Portnoy is better than Bobby you know very little about drumming. And you honestly think Portnoy blew Weckl away??? Now THAT is the most ridiculous statement I've ever read on youtube for real. Then you make claims comparing Chambers to Portnoy? Nah, you're not a drummer. You're a Portnoy fan who knows little about music. Done with this silly conversation.
AMERICASMANRONPAUL 1 month ago
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL First I need to check to see if you've blocked me yet.
metalmike83 1 month ago
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL Okay, so you haven't blocked me. But it sure was fun watching throw a tantrum like a 4 year old girl who just pissed her panties. I know what happened to you man - you went to some faggoty "university" who taught you that Buddy Rich was the best drummer of all time because he could play on the snare at a mile a minute. They probably told you not to use a double pedal too. Now I can see you in a lame folk band never raising your stick more than a foot.
metalmike83 1 month ago
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL If you already don't know for a fact that Mike Portnoy is better than Buddy Rich in some ways, then I have to seriously question whether or not your IQ score would fall into the triple digits. I mean, it's so painfully obvious to anyone who's not a complete fucking mongoloid that these drummers just have different skill sets. Stop talking about slapping boogers and stop throwing tantrums just because someone who's only 28 dwarfts your logic and knowledge.
metalmike83 1 month ago
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL Bobby sounds like a second tier drummer compared to Portnoy. And Priester literally is way too one-dimensional to even be compared. He couldn't handle the odd times that DT threw at him. Stuff that Mike can eat for breakfast. You can make an argument about Virgil being better but the fact is that Mike has a way better feeling for music than Thomas Lang or Priester. Next you will claim something retarded like Roddy is better than Portnoy, or something.
metalmike83 1 month ago
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL I think you need to seriously sit down and work out a few logic problems. Because, right now you sound like a deluded creationist who thinks the earth is 6000 years old. You can't seem to understand that Weckl and Vinnie can't be considered better than Portnoy because they simply can't play the stuff he can. Show me one example of Weckl or Vinnie getting the double bass speed on a Nightmare To Remember or Honor Thy Father. Do that or don't even reply.
metalmike83 1 month ago
@metalmike83 Sorry, don´t be offended, but i can play Honor Thy Father and Nightmare To Remember (not flawless). But i have realy ploblems to sound good at Jazz and some Songs of some Gavin Harrison or Rosetta Stoned of Tool. I´m not a good drummer, but i can play most Dream Theater songs. What´s that saying? I´m not able to create that stuff. Mike is realy a great drummer, but don´t make him godlike. There is always a younger (sometimes older) one who is better.
rockdahaus 5 days ago in playlist Gavin Harrison
@rockdahaus I don't believe that anyone who isn't a good drummer can actually play those songs. Sure, you can keep the beat of those songs - but can you play all of the nuances; the complex fills and double bass parts? If so, then you are gifted in the area of double bass. I have been playing for many years - I can play jazz tunes and Tool songs but I cannot touch the double bass of Nightmare To Remember. I doubt you really can. Also, try Dance of Eternity - it's impossibly hard.
metalmike83 5 days ago
@metalmike83 As i wrote befor, i can play that songs NOT flawless. The easy part is the fast double bass... for me (i´m not very fast, max. 16th on 230 (some day 240) pbm for 30 seconds). I have problems on other parts... the little things and some fills. I grow up with Slayer. Dave Lombardo is not a technical complex drummer, but he plays in a nice way, and with fast feed. Tool is fun to drum to. But in this moment, my body is fuckt up, pins and needles in my hands. :-(
rockdahaus 4 days ago
@rockdahaus But if even if you could play those songs flawlessly; that doesn't erase the fact that the vast majority of jazz drummers are incapable of doing so themselves. Dave Weckl could never handle the intro to a Nightmare to Remember - the double bass is just too fast. So, in the end it really is just a case of apples and oranges.
metalmike83 5 days ago
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL You can't fucking compare apples and organges like this. It's like comparing fuckin' Peter Earskin to Gene Hoglan. Sure, Peter is way more rudimental in his drumming and can play jazz. But Gene's feet are unparalleled and for the style of music he plays, he's better than Peter in every way. Your problem lies with the fact that you can't accept Metal being just as valid as jazz. You therefore value the jazz drummers more. I blame whatever school you went to
metalmike83 1 month ago
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL And nobody fucking plays hand-to-foot combinations as good as Portnoy. He's made it an art unto itself. That combined with his quick feet and amazing feel for prog rock make him an elite drummer in the same way that Buddy Rich's ability to swing and play big band tunes made him an eltie drummer. But the fact is, guys who play like Buddy now can't touch the rock stuff and vice versa. You should know that. Mike Portnoy would destroy any prof you know.
metalmike83 1 month ago
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL Mike Portnoy's feel blows Mangini's out of the water. Just go read the comments on any Mangini video. Everyone fucking says that Portnoy's better. Why? Because he's way smoother and has a better feel for what he's doing. Mangini sounds boring as fuck - despite all his ostinatos and polyrythms. Again, if you want a drummer who is truly superior, Gavin would be your man. I only say that because he literally has everything Portnoy does and then some.
metalmike83 1 month ago
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL But until I see guys like Gary Novak and Peter Earskin pulling off the double bass parts in Honor Thy Father. In fact, until I see ANYONE you mentioned aside from Virgil, Priester, and Lang actually able to play that, I will never consider them better. Why? Because it takes years of dedication to be able to pull it off. Much like it takes years of dedication to play jazz. Metal is just as much music as jazz is. Get over it and grow the fuck up.
metalmike83 1 month ago
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL Stop listening to those faggoty, uppidy know-nothing profs who could never play a hard Dream Theater tune or a Mike Protnoy solo if their life depended on it. They are stuck up, arrogant semi-retarded, illogical prunes who are jealous of guys like Mike who play them away on pretty much any level aside from being able to play the fucking jazz ride pattern. Think for yourself. Just because the information comes from a "university" doesn't make it good.
metalmike83 1 month ago
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL There's no way you can compare those guys to Portnoy. I mean, it's two completely different styles. I can sooner play Dennis Chambers than I can play Portnoy let's put it that way. You have to remember that Mike does some amazing work with his feet. He doesn't use triggers either which makes it that much more impressive. But yeah.Denis can't play the fills from "Nightmare" nor can he play the slow double bass parts. He's a jazz drummer. Apples and oranges.
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AMERICASMANRONPAUL 1 month ago
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL Aquiles could take lessons from Portnoy. I mean, he utterly failed the tests Dream Theater threw at him. He's a faster double bass guy but he's not nearly as good at odd times and doesn't have Portnoy's amazing feel for rock music. And I've watched Buddy Rich and Tony Williams play. Quite frankly Portnoy's technical ability is so far above theirs that you're basically comparing a model-T (Buddy Rich) to a Ferrari (Portnoy). Jazz isn't better just because.
metalmike83 1 month ago
@metalmike83 Dude, seriously. Both Virgil and Thomas Lang had trouble with Portnoy's music. That puts him in their league like it or not. You're focusing too much on mechanics and technique instead of overall playing ability, rythmic ability and feel. Those hoity toity jazz fruitcakes who teach an universities like to pretend that jazz somehow makes you a better drummer. They are delusional at best and could never hope to cover Dream Theater.
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AMERICASMANRONPAUL 1 month ago
@metalmike83 Playing jazz doesn't make you any better. It just makes you better at playing jazz. Tony Williams would respect Portnoy for his abilities and I know Portnoy respects Tony Williams. You seem to be falling into the trap of "it's jazz and therefore superior". The fact is that you and me can likely play rudiments beyond Portnoy but he can still kick our ass with his overall ability. Playing rudiments doesn't automatically make you better.
metalmike83 1 month ago
@metalmike83 Okay dude you're a friggin moron. I can't even be civil to you. Priester failed as did Marco and Virgil and other who were better than Mike. And I've NEVER heard ANYONE say such stupid things like Portnoy's anything was better than Buddy Rich. LOL Dude you're brain dead all the way home. I was really thinking you were joking earlier, but to see that you're serious lets me know you know nothing. I've played 35 years. And you? Are you even a drummer? I literally have to block you.
AMERICASMANRONPAUL 1 month ago
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL Again, I'm not trying to overwhelm you with a response you can't rebut. I know that can be annoying but I'm just trying to explain myself. You see, I used to think that drummers like Virgil Donati, Thomas Lang etc were far superior to Portnoy. But everytime I would watch their solos back to back I would always come away thinking Portnoy was better. How could I explain this? He's simply the best at what he does.
metalmike83 1 month ago
@AMERICASMANRONPAUL Now Gavin can do everything Portnoy can do and then some; he's far more versatile as you said and he can play many different genres with a feel that really no one else can duplicate. He's simply one of the best overall drummers on the planet. He's just not as creative when he solos. To me, the two most creative solo artists are Portnoy and Royster Jr. Now as far as functional drumming goes, Gavin has Portnoy whooped.
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AMERICASMANRONPAUL 1 month ago
Ooh it's a fence, but it's soft. That's Jazz
MrPintGlass 9 months ago
jazz is the last stop of a musician before he or she has to get a proper job.
drumsnbikes 9 months ago
@drumsnbikes There are plenty of musicians that play jazz professionally and live well. That's kind of an ignorant thing to say, don't you think?
HeroineandtheHeroes 9 months ago
@HeroineandtheHeroes nope :)
drumsnbikes 9 months ago
@drumsnbikes With you on that one.. I respect jazz, for influencing bands like Bark Psychosis and Radiohead, but jazz is just not my style. At all.
BruisedEyeSockets 8 months ago
@BruisedEyeSockets Jazz takes much more skill to play than any other music out there. Any idiot can play a 4/4 rock beat, or tap a guitar solo really fast. Jazz is where the real musicians are at.
zepfan2012 8 months ago
@zepfan2012 Wow, how arrogant of you to say.. Who cares about skill? Well, other than people who jerk off to GH videos.. Anyway, any 'real' musician would agree it's also about the feeling of music. Like I said, style. Any prick can swing, learn theory & improvise in different modes, you're forgetting. I played in a combo for 6 years. But if it sounds like shit, then you really shouldn't have a reason to get your dick wet over jazz.
BruisedEyeSockets 8 months ago
@zepfan2012 if you knew anything about rock, you would know there is more than just 4/4 with a backbeat.
david30918 8 months ago
@HeroineandtheHeroes this person probably cant even spell ignorant never mind know what it means
jordofthejungle2 8 months ago
Brilliant!!!
goofygirly2010 9 months ago
I love that he uses his fingers also to play the drums.
Gavin truly is the god of drums in my oppinion.
Odinsgade 9 months ago 2
i hate jazz, but i can watch Gavin Harrison play any style out there.
drumsnbikes 9 months ago
@drumsnbikes why do you hate jazz?
adam2664 9 months ago
@drumsnbikes why would you hate jazz?
adam2664 9 months ago
Everything this man does is brilliant!
robthedrummer 9 months ago
oh my gosh @2:48-3:00 is sick
TheSammel2 9 months ago
2:34-2:39 Wtf?
JcDrummer28 10 months ago
It's as if all my favourite drummers melted together to create the most creative, multi-talented and technically sublime drummers ever!
pengefikseret 10 months ago
@pengefikseret I couldn't describe Gavin Harrison using any other words my friend!
Edwardo1993 9 months ago
He is my favourite drummer now.
BLooDCoMPleX 10 months ago
man, is he awesome or what.ive watched weckl,colaiuta,gadd,buddy rich,greb and countless many others.but this dudes amazing.hes different.i dunno what makes him so different.its like you appreciate every note he plays.from the ghost notes to the accents.everything can be heard.buttery smooth.
drummerspoundhard 10 months ago
just an absolutely great drummer
SkeletonFriends 10 months ago
@marimbaguy2
I might say any Carnatic music is tougher than jazz or prog, at least IMO. Playing classically WELL is also difficult as hell. But eastern harmonies can be more complex to look at the way we've been brought up.
a1gold176 10 months ago
@a1gold176 yo! do a favor and educate the ignorant (me) what does carnatic mean?
theSWclan 10 months ago
@theSWclan
Basically Southern indian music my friend.
a1gold176 10 months ago
I like this version of so what
678Drummer 11 months ago
2:49-3:10 ... what in the unholy fuck
lyzd3x1c 11 months ago
one of the most versatile drummers on the planet. Listening to his instructional videos is like taking a class from a mad scientist-of drumming! Subdividing to the nth degree. Any rock drummer who doesn't think jazz is difficult is so clueless that they can't be helped. What a musician Gavin is.
JeffreyMulac8 11 months ago
literally every video i watch of gavin by the end i am always in shock
jbonhamII 11 months ago 3
He is so fuckin "gentle" with his drum kit... love it!
Bigiobagio 1 year ago 2
hey I'm not english,what he says at 0:08? "It's probably what you're gonna think when I'll play it"?
scaxxomaxx 1 year ago
@scaxxomaxx "So what" as in, "That was nothing special"-ish
Shisanu 1 year ago
he is spinning of this planet!!! kinda gets u thinking no matter how hard u train u will never do anything so perfect as gavin does =o
TheRandomNab 1 year ago
ca somebody tell me how he does that 1:40??
TheLt2323 1 year ago
Those tiny effect cymbals sound awesome.
metabog 1 year ago
@metabog AND I HAPPYLY HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT ALL THOSE TINY CYMBALS ARE CRASHES CUTTED !!!!!! SO IF YOU HAVE A COUPLE CRASHES CRACKED, DON´T DOUBT TO CUT THEM BETWEEN 4 AND 6 INCHES, SOUNDS GREAT!!! I HAVE MY CUSTOM CHIMES AS GAVIN DOES!
Elmaikportnoy 1 year ago
@Elmaikportnoy Easy, easy.
metabog 1 year ago
@Elmaikportnoy No, you are wrong. They are Ride-Cups, cut from old Ride-Cymbals. Gavin himself explained that in several occasions.
astroandyborgloh 1 year ago
@astroandyborgloh look at the bows on those bells though! there's NO WAY they're from rides, the bells just aren't big enough.
RackAttacks 1 year ago
@astroandyborgloh They're from crash cymbals. They all have the medium cup size which is standard for Zildjian 14", 17", 18" etc cymbals from the 80s.
Minijohnny 1 year ago
super batteur!! toutes les qualités alleluia! DIDIER D'AGOSTINO BATTEUR COMPOSITEUR et prof de batterie SUR YOUTUBE,DAILYMOTION, MYSPACE.
dagostinoification 1 year ago
1:45 : Jazz blast-beat
windriderrr 1 year ago 33
that hi-hat sounds sooooo sweet when you open it up to more jazz type settings and just shhhhhhhhwap it.
amusingisthedawn 1 year ago
where do you find sonor drums?
hobes9 1 year ago
@hobes9 internet
lpratliff 1 year ago
Gavin Harrison rules!!!!
GeorgePougasJR 1 year ago
I like that he plays double pedal for a jazz song!
sebastianluik 1 year ago
Double pedal in jazz! dope!
sebastianluik 1 year ago
I have to admit, i kinda borrowed that technique of ghosting with fingers and used it in a solo i played at school. Everyone was like 'Wow how'd you come up with that?'
I just said
'God told me in a youtube video'
tjdrummer13 1 year ago 121
@tjdrummer13 do you know if it's how hard he is using his fingers or the mics that makes that technique audible?
KOMOOX 1 year ago
@KOMOOX Yup, i had mics on the kit and it worked quite well, i only used it whilst playing heaps quiter beats, but it sounded fine.
I won't pretend to me anywhere near as good as gavin or anyone at it, but i impressed a few non drummers with it anyway!~
tjdrummer13 1 year ago
@tjdrummer13 cool i just did a concert aswell i love ghost notes ........
speckytom 1 year ago
@tjdrummer13 Beast brosky.
guitarrhythymfool 11 months ago
@tjdrummer13 Naw but in all seriousness, that's damn cool. Your response is the best part :P
guitarrhythymfool 11 months ago
@tjdrummer13 Purdie also does that when he plays his shuffle, ghosting the middle of the triplet I think
dejd 10 months ago
@tjdrummer13 I would think I would on work if your drums were miked
metallicafreind 7 months ago
I just love how Harrison uses the double bass, not as most metal musicians, but with complete control and smoothness that makes it sound tasteful in even jazz. Its inspiring even to a trumpet player (as I am).
Gwalka 1 year ago 3
What snare is he playing?
bearddragon 1 year ago
@bearddragon Gavin Harrison Signature Sonor snare I'd guess, look it up. 12" x 5"... worth 900 bucks if you want one, lol.
ryder187mac 1 year ago
perfection
MrGildenlow92 1 year ago
so THIS is what happens when a prog. rock drummer plays jazz!
oh ok i get it now.
shootsbraw 1 year ago 2
@shootsbraw Or a jazz drummer playing prog. rock (e. g. Porcupine Tree)....
1Boodyman1 1 year ago
@1Boodyman1 Nope, he's a prog. rock drummer. A jazz drummer would wank off on the ride cymbal and the snare for the whole piece.
amjan 1 year ago
@amjan
Haha actually he is a jazz drummer. Prog rock is made out of jazz. All the great fills he uses in PT is all jazz mate!
Ironicusz 1 year ago
@shootsbraw he was a jazz drummer first
rhythmninja0987 1 year ago
@shootsbraw
It's the other way around mate! Only after years of studying jazz it's possible to make those kind of fills in PT.
Ironicusz 1 year ago
jesus how does he have that much finger control to be able to hear it that well wen he taps the snare definitely the budy rich of the new era
JackMehoff845 1 year ago 2
3:45 Orgasm...
deinvadder88 1 year ago
@deinvadder88 RIGHT! haha xD...: hmm hmmm WAARH
RockyCatOrganism 1 year ago
I want his kit
guitarlord390 1 year ago 2
Gavin can play whatever he wants, for me the completest drummer of this time and ever a big inspiration.
jey2010 1 year ago
What snare is that? Is it his signature snare?
bearddragon 1 year ago
@bearddragon it's a Sonor Designer 12x5. They have just made a short run reissue of this exact drum. It's a "Special Edition" not a signature snare.
drumsetdemon 1 year ago
@drumsetdemon Thank you Ive been trying to figure it out. Does he have a signature snare?
bearddragon 1 year ago
@bearddragon yes he does
beatcrazy14 1 year ago
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any one know what China he's using in this video?
Oriental China Trash 16"? 18"?
I want same china cymbal......
masinarisama 1 year ago
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any one know what China he's using in this video?
Oriental China Trash 16"? 18"?
I want same china cymbal......
masinarisama 1 year ago
any one know what China he's using in this video?
Oriental China Trash 16"? 18"?
I want same china cymbal......
masinarisama 1 year ago
@masinarisama main one is a Z custom 18 or 20" smaller one is an oriental but cant remember what size
drumdemon3 1 year ago
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any one know what China he's using in this video?
Oriental China Trash 16"? 18"?
I want same china cymbal......
masinarisama 1 year ago
any one know what China he's using in this video?
Oriental China Trash 16"? 18"?
I want same china cymbal......
masinarisama 1 year ago
it's good to see gavin playin with only one foot on the bass drum
guyroeeandbuzi 1 year ago
i dont particularly like it. I mean, he's really good, really really good, but his vocab was very limited... at first i thought, ok modern style, then okay he can swing (really well), then his solo comes and it was modern again... idk I would've prefered he got a bit better swing and stuck with it throughout. with that said, hes much better than me in any style but he has high standards and he should've waited for the next clinic so he could've been a bit better.
FockerTheLopper 1 year ago
@FockerTheLopper yeah i can understand where you're coming from, but again this like a modernized style of this song so listening to this song and comparing it to the old one is a bit of a stretch, but by no means wrong. I prefer to just take it as it is, a great performance. His interpretation of the chart and yours will differ and that's absolutely fine. I'm not sure what you mean about him waiting to go the next clinic, this was the year they asked him, there's no reason for him not to go
themaliced 1 year ago
@themaliced well my main criticism is that 1) he goes back and fourth from the modern to old style and his old style isn't strong enough (by his standards), so if he kept it contemporary the whole through I wouldn't mind. If you notice him swinging he only had like 2 or 3 things he knew how to play and he just kept playing them... idk this isn't worth arguing, he's a great drummer I'm just a bit dissapointed that he performed this
FockerTheLopper 1 year ago
@themaliced oh no im not trying to argue with you i completely understand and respect your position
themaliced 1 year ago
Sexy part at 2:50! Yeah!!!
drumboy1313 1 year ago