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  • Looks like you have the fluted barrel. Call up Kel Tec and they will send you the new revised barrel (if you haven't already.. I realize this video is 2 years old now.)

  • 30 .22 magnum's = 15 .44 magnum's. lol Not quite, but I have a Five Seven and I have an S&W 351 pd. No way is the .22 mag = to the 5.7 x 28mm. The .22 mag hits great, but with the Five Seven I can take 100 yard shots all day long. It is so flat of a shooting round that it is right up there with my Mini 14 for accuracy. That to me is incredible for a pistol, to hit targets that I only went after with a rifle before I got it. Hit a soda can at 100 yards with that PMR 30. I dare ya!

  • I really like the idea of 30 rounds of .22 mag. The gun is a bit industrial looking but I kind of like that. While I would like to think it would make an ok carry gun, I just don't know that I could get behind anything rimfire & in that caliber for self defense. Yes, .22 mag is a wicked little cartridge it's still not on par with the larger calibers. Yes, you've got 30 rounds but still. Also the site falling off was bothersome but I'm sure it was a fluke or corrected by now @ Kel-Tec.

  • Also I like how your showing it in rapid fire that is most likely how someone is going to pull the trigger in a bad situation i don't think someone would take their time to pull the trigger when they get shot at

  • what does your shirt say on the bottom?

  • Nice work, if the pistol is reliable that is an awesome option.

  • looks like this will replace my Glock as my wilderness sidearm.

  • patterns like a shot gun you will need all 30 rounds at 30 yards!!!!

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  • 06:12 dog stops barking when he fires.. "Oh no he killed the dog!"... He stops for a moment, dog resumes barking like "yeah that's right I'm still alive f***er!".

  • Pumping .22 round of 30 into somebody..... lol

  • I looked up prices for this thing expecting like 800 dollars or something.

    285 on CTD? I'm not a huge fan of the whole polymer scene, but I gotta get my hands on one of these, even IF i don't use it much.

  • @DanTheVikingr I just picked up one for $375. I called another gun shop and they were asking $675....

  • My Kel Tec P-3AT is really picky on ammo too. Feed it the right stuff and it runs great, but the wrong stuff makes it choke.

  • Appreciate the non-biased discussion on the gun. Good review.

  • I liked your video. Good Job! I wanted this gun before I seen your video. I still like it but, I believe that a gun should be able to fire any brand of ammo and, a good gun should do it with out failure. Thanks and, GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!!!

  • REMINGTON AMMUNITION..JUST LIKE MOST OF THEIR GUNS...IS JUNK

  • Love it I wish they had one that didn't come in Ugly

  • My thought are that this is a great camping, hunting (secondary), hiking, bug out, and plinking gun. I struggle with it as EDC. One, it's large in size; two, 22 although deadly it's not my first choice; and third, to say that you might need 30rds to put into someone, good luck with the lawyers if you do! Kel-Tec has been doing some great 'out of the box' guns and this one has lots of uses. Looks like a great open carry camping gun. Thanks for the review!

  • i have a smith and wesson 351pd , and everybody thought i was nuts to get a 22 mag , i wont stand in front of gun to get shot with.  only thing i dont like is any manufacturer telling what ammo i must buy to be reliable . 1 reason i bought revolver.

  • Ultimate zombie attack sidearm?

  • It's a fun gun, I just wish 22 magnum wasn't so expensive.

  • @FritoBandito327 Its the same price as 9mm right?

  • @MetricBernard Yes, in some cases a little more expensive than 9mm.

  • Remember: PMR-30 while eminently practical, and it is not the only solution, here, too. Thank you, Eric for these informative and fun videos. Hopefully, I can do some for you featuring Tank, my chihuahua.

  • this gun is that all wanted it, so Keltec rushed the production before its full perfection. Now, it should be fully perfected. I'd use JSP rounds for the best combo of reliability, penetration and expansion. Usage mindset: The German and Astra 9mm 'broomhandle' pistols were cheap, high capacity(with 20 round mags)pistols for defense(1950s), 9mm Luger is centerfire, .22 magnum is rimfire. ATI FS9 9mm pistol with its 20 round mag would also fill this need, too.(cont'd).

  • This has to be one of the most unreliable guns I've ever seen (from various videos I've seen).

  • looks like a total POS little shit-pumper

  • @shadows666love

    Like your mother?

  • @EvilxMerlin i was not aware my mother had anything to do with a gun? sounds like a 11 year old boy is angry at my bashing of shitty gun. it's a cheaply made gun with low quality parts ESP the mags, when he chambers the first round he has to hit the back fairly hard(recipe for accidental fires and a big safety risk) and the front site FALLS OFF the front of the gun.... all in all it looks like a POS and that's my opinion.

  • @shadows666love

    Find me one other pistol like it... like any pistol, you get good and bad units at times. I've known the occasional Kimber to have issues too. You don't like KelTec. Got it.

  • @EvilxMerlin it's poorly made, i don't have a problem with any well made guns.... just poor quality ones.

  • @shadows666love

    I have no problem with my KelTec. Its not a PMR-30, but I've beat up my KelTec in more ways than I care to remember, and it still fires.

  • @EvilxMerlin i'm sure, however like i said i'm talking about THIS model and this one alone.

  • Very good review

  • how much are those guns?

  • Floorplate. Magazine Floorplate.

  • Wouldn't recommend a wmr as a CCW weapon. The velocity is way too high on the maxi vs a weapons where you want the expansion and grain of the bullet to slow it down on impact so you don't shoot through. Also I can't imagine a situation that would merit 30 rnds to stop an intruder. Over killing an assailant will certainly get you hung by a judge

  • @naireland Not if  I am on the jury.

  • @frankgon4 Well in the event that I massacre some asshole thug with a knife ill be sure to look ya up

  • heard the first group of these that went out has issues. i think it was extraction not sure though. are the sites removable? this looks like a good duracoat project for me

  • at 5:09 was that an extrator malfunction

  • @m96c40 When did the front sight fall off?

  • WISH THEY WOULD MAKE AIRSOFT VERSION i like collecting models

  • the double [or even triple] stack rimfire has me nervous, with all those rims neatly stacked on top of another... is there a safety issue say, with a magazine dropped from a higher than usual height?

  • does kel tec have alot of guns good for both left and right handed shooters?

  • so basically the gun is a piece of shit. i was thinking of getting a kel tec su-16c

    but from that footage no fucking way.

  • @tanker0wns1 it jammed when they used the rounds not recommended by kel-tec. it did not jam when using the recommended cci maxi-mag. the gun is not a piece of shit.

  • @threelittleniglets see a gun shouldent need an expensive bullet to operate. i can understand a gun shooting steel rounds all over the place at 100 yds but not functioning properly when using brass??? that tells you its not a good gun.

  • @tanker0wns1 I'm with you. I was thinking of buying a PMR 30, and wouldn't mind feeding it a particular brand of ammo. But when the front sight fell off of that one, well................

  • @m96c40 Agreed, the front sight falling off was a complete turn off.

  • Man I want this gun. Enough to sell some of my other guns to get it. Thanks for a comprehensive look at this piece.

  • i cant buy this in maryland would someone tell me how i can get my hands on one of theese im about ready to move to somewhere with better state laws it makes me so mad i saw this gun waited and waited for it to come then my local gun store said its not legal in maryland

  • Interesting. That way you can keep your guns in NV.

    Old Ted Kenedy tried to outlaw SKS rifles, even though they met none of the criteria for "assault rifles."

    Sad what's happened to freedom.

  • Judging by the recoil effect shown in this video, if you add some weight to the front, I bet it would have no upkick/recoil for the user.

  • Illegal in Calif, NY,NJ, MA, and other Socialist Republics.

  • @Varianna12 I went to the gun store today, and they told me it's illegal..........I am thinking about moving to NV........even PX4 Subcompact is illegal!

  • @moderndesignworks Where do you live?

  • @Varianna12 Los Angeles.

    

  • @moderndesignworks I lived in Calif 'till I was 15. Nice place, but the last catastrophic gun law they passed would have sent me to Nevada also. My Uncle got taxed over to Nevada back in the 80s.

  • @Varianna12 80s??? It wasn't even that bad compare to now even for taxes, I have friends got the NV residence but still live here in CA, but on the paper they don't live here, I think that's the best way to go, kind like domestic illegals........lol

  • All that being said, I have a PMR on order, because it looks like a fun gun, and should be reliable once broken in and used with the right ammo. And a lot cheaper to shoot then my 45.

  • I have read a lot of comments on this vid about using this gun as a defense firearm. 2 things, reliability being number one. I have an XD 45 that has NEVER had a FTF, or a jam, secondly theres a huge difference between killing power, and stopping power. Say a 120 lb woman is using it to shoot a 220 lb bad guy across a 20 ft room who is charging at her. She gets off 10 shots, he still gets to her, takes the gun, kills her before he dies. With a 45, it should be one and done. No question.

  • $400?

  • dude i want one. how much was it?

  • Did I hear it right; were there no malfunctions using the recommended ammo?

    I appreciate your reviews.

  • Tap the mag every 2-5 rounds when loading( check kel-tec's youtube account "keltecweapons",they explain it in a video "PMR-30 review" )

    load it like this(same vid as metioned above)

    tap the back for the slide for it to set right

    If ti doesn't feed right drop the mag and rack the slide then shoot the round

    Cant they just make a single stack mag? seriously,it seems like it would fix a couple problems.

  • If someone made a .25 magnum auto and then Kel tec remade the gun I think it would be bad ass with this design!

  • Fun gun? yes. Combat gun? No.

  • Man I want to get one of these and put a little reflex sight on it.

  • now keltec needs to make a carbine that accepts the same mags....ftw

  • @SimpleDanForever RMR-30 look for shotshow, enjoy!

  • yeah this is FN 57's competition

  • @SimpleDanForever I cant afford a $1000 gun as much as i wold love one,also a FN PS90,M1A,Kel tec KSG(the shotgun if i got the name wrong),a Sig 556,Sig P226,Colt1911,ColtSAA, and so on,but my wallet isn't gold and full of daimonds

    yeah its a cheaper quality but not bad overall.

    its not the best,just cheaper.

    take care.

  • I want one

  • i would like to see a glock(wont happen) or smith and wesson version of this. i have read that this gun often has jamming problems.

  • i have decided to buy one

  • have you tryed the hornadys yet??

    

  • that look very good the barrel is fluted and it see to be a very good gun for the price yes i would like to have one 5.7 but it is to expensive and the rounds for it is very hard to find here in Puerto Rico

  • thubs up if you disliked the vid

  • did you kill that dog or something?? did anybody hear that yelp? 6:13

  • The PMR-30 looks like a fun gun especially for the price! I am adding it to my 'List'. I have an empty space for .22WMR pistol. I like how we are all more open-minded about rimfires. I hate how everyone is trying to make the PMR-30 a defensive firearm! The .22WMR cases are rather thin & dent easily... I would rather have something more durable for defensive use. Just my .000002 cents :)

  • 3:50 slingshot, brass check, tap the forward assist.... (joke for all you jarheads out there) and shoots REAL smooth!! cant wait to get one

  • all kel tec gun, if you read the manuel, say that when getting a new gun the gun will jam until all the new parts are broken in (which is after 100 rounds).

  • can you put xs sights on it?

  • I want one so bad now.

  • I would like to see the PMR30 in 17HMR.

  • why so many plastic on kel tec wheapon ?

  • @druisteen1 Why so many plastic on glock weapons?

  • @tmzrox lol, :-)

  • seems like CCI is the only way to go in .22lr pistols...my cheap jimenez 22 only likes CCI mini mags..had 0 jams using that ammo but remington thunderbolt subsonic federal lightning...a no go...

  • any1 carrying this pistol loaded with Hornady Critical Defense ammunition would be deadly, regardless of shot placement. If the bullet hits the target, the target is going to know it, long before shot #10 or 20 has been fired. An excellent carry piece in my opinion.

  • @blackBLUR89 true..this is a monster of a gun...lookin into it

  • @GNut1980 yeah, .....i just placed an order for mine last night....they care going to call me when they are in stock though, they are being backordered like crazy, haha. 

  • @blackBLUR89 good luck..congrats on your purchase!

  • @GNut1980 Thanx!

  • how much do these cost?

  • mmmmm.........GET YOUR MONEY BACK FOR IT, and for crying out loud, DO NOT CARRY IT FOR SERIOUS SELF DEFENSE

  • @EL3minutero Y not carry it for serious self defense? it wud b better than the sig sauer mosquito that i have carried for over a year now. i think any pistol that has the same capacity as an assault rifle is great, regardless of the caliber. as long as it is maintained and remains reliable. Just curious about such a strong opinion is all, not trying to start a fight.

  • Nice I really like this gun on paper.. Im just waiting for a .22lr model since I don't don't already have a .22mag, Don't wanna have another caliber to stock.

    Also hope they come out with one in in .17hmr

  • question, did you load the bullets properly? because placing a bullet over another in the wrong pattern the rims will catch and cause a feeding failure

  • thanks for the disassembly

  • good review. I enjoyed one at the range recently, nice light trigger, accurate too

  • @Iraqevetran8888 It's A Nice Pistol But Really No MAtch For The Fn 5.7 x 28. I Think If 21 Rounds Of 5.7x28 Won't Do The Job Then You Need To Learn How To Shoot Or Get The MAg Extention For 30 Rounds And Yes You Could Buy "2" For The Price,I Got My 5.7 For About $1100 With Tax BWT I Wouldn't Use Solvent On The pollimer Parts Of That Gun Only What The Manufacturer Recomends.VEry Nice Review Of The Gun Though Buddy Nice Plinker But Wouldn't WAnt To Bet My Life On It Compaired To The FN 5.7

  • @tylerdurden1971 however while the .22WMR costs about $0.20 a cartridge(average Cartridge) , the 5.7x28 for about $0.50 (cheapest)

  • Nutnfancy just had a run and gun with 2 of these that were brought over by a keltec rep. They had quite a few failures as well. The guns were dry at first but even after they fixed that there were issues.

  • Why is the pmr so ammo restrictive?

  • @GothChristianPatriot its made my kel-tec They make good weapons but they a little picky on ammo, specifically steel casing ammo

  • @Umimugo Steel cased isn't gonna be found in .22 WMR. And autoloading rimfires are ammo-sensitive in general; I've only had a couple that didn't choke on certain ammo.

  • That police officer really bites his nails

  • This gun seems to have the same problems as the DP .380 pocket pistol....For the most part it just needs break in or minor bur removal from internal components...I might go ahead and get one....

  • Really great video. Thanks for the upload. Nice people like you taking your time to review guns makes the buying choice so much easier for other people. Take care.

  • talk about some dick tracy barrel flash

    

  • Great job. Excellent explanation.

  • How much did you pay for this pistol?

  • @L0GAN811 U can find them for 350-400 brand new if you shop and have patience. Gunbroker sometimes has them for these prices, but you gotta wait for the prices to be good. Usualy they are 450 or so. Stores will charge you a lot more, 550 or so.

  • And remember, Kel Tecs need a 100 round breaking in period with recommended ammo before they are reliable, it it isn't like it is the only manufacture that has that either.

  • Needs a .22 hornet (that would be an epic chambering feat ).

  • That's a lot of failures for a carry gun.

  • does kel-tec make the stock they used on the full auto version for the semi?

  • The front site needs super glue

  • So.. When you said that was a police officer shooting at around 7:20 do you guys both have the same watches on the left wrist? And your fingers look alot alike, you must be brothers?

  • @clm0028 lololiolololololo

  • @clm0028 That is funny because even the grip is exactly the same with the left hand over the right and the fingers are in the exact same spot. Good eyes

  • so it seemed the cci load suggested worked flawlessly, have you had any issues with feeding from the suggested load since this video?

  • There is indeed a large difference in price between this and the 5-7... but... my Five-seveN has had zero failures of any kind throughout an entire case of ammunition. For a police officer (like myself) or even anyone, knowing that when you pull the trigger the bang is gonna happen is an important thing.

    Not knocking the gun in any way though - that's just sort of par for the course for a .22 caliber rimfire.

  • Awesome review and breakdown. 30 rnds. Amazing.

  • Do you think a little polishing on the feed ramp would help with the fail to feed problem?

  • can you shoot 22. lr out of this?

  • @SuRv1v3R97 No, no you can not. There is some talk in Kel-tec about maybe making a .22Lr version in the future, but no plans yet.

  • You lost me at "european style magazine release"

  • Great review man, thanks for posting

  • why is it that so many .22 pistols have problems with feeding/extracting?

  • Dammit Eric! Now I'm gonna have to buy another gun because of you. lol

  • Is it the Maxi Mag +V? I've been looking at these PMR30s. I love shooting 22 mags out of my Rough Rider. I've shot a few kinds of mags out of my Rough Rider (including the CCI Maxi Mags) and I've found the Federal 30grn Speer TNT to be my favorite by far. Have you tried using them cartridges in the PMR30? I've been looking for a conceal carry gun (I am a revolver guy and don't care for auto-loading cartridges, but I do like my rimfire) and I have been wondering about this.

  • 1st: Thanks for being the only gun reviewer to pronounce "ambidextrous" correctly. 2nd: Isn't the "blowback/lock breach hybrid" operation supposed to prevent jamming from different types (pressures) of ammo?

  • The one thing that always keeps me away from Kel Tec are the way they always screw their guns together. The lower portion of the pistol should be one piece.

  • You do a great job of weapon discussion. Glad I found your website.

  • Who has them in stock and how much? I see them online but out of stock.

  • wow, 30 rounds per mag, future is now!

  • its bull shit thats my favorite gun and i cant get it cuz i live in maryland. i hate the fucken bull shit laws im gona have to move now

  • they should make one in 22lr for plinking

  • so is only can use a cci maxi max only? i want to buy one of pmr30 too......how was it...good? or jam alot? thank you

  • do you think it would be able to shoot .22 lr?

  • my glock ccw holds 33 rounds whats new?

  • damn 30 rounds thats amazing, is it even legal to carry 30 rounds

  • this is the first vid that i completely watch.. NICE vID 1 question how much are they and how can i get 1 thaks

  • Awesome vid brother and a great 22 for sure !!!!!!!

  • precious smile at 4:19. precious smile again at 4:36. must be a fun little gun.

  • @iraqveteran8888

    Hello - im about 15, not the strongest in the bynch, and fairl new to real firearms, (After years of safty, i know how to handle some weapons) This looks like a fine weapon for my needs, if possiable, please awnser the following questions.

    Hows the recoil?

    Good for begginers?

    Stopping power (Looking for home defense, fun, begginers, and well, notinhg larger then a dear hunting)

    Any way to attach a scope?

    Tritium sights aviable?

  • @shino9797 Deer hunt with a .22 mag?

    Lemme know how that works out for you.

  • @Luwinkle I know, probbly not the best choice of words, but im still NEW,(i mean brand new) to guns. Im decide wither to get this, or a CZ-75.

  • @shino9797 I'm not even sure where to begin. Read what you wrote and fix the flaws, then ask a real question.

  • i would have liked to see the target results bt still a good video

  • I was sold in the first 5 seconds of your video!!

  • That .22 mag will drop a mother fucker

  • Don't compare .22 mag to 5.7x28. The 5.7 isn't a caliber, it's a religon!

  • A PMR30 in every home in America would be enough to scare China or Mexico.

  • @scrateshooter Yea I'm thinking more along the lines of a 7.62Nato hi cap battle rifle. Have those in every home and that will scare the shit out of more of them.

  • @scrateshooter if only the state laws would allow....i whole-heartedly agree. Plinking fun and protection factor. 

  • how much was this gun?

  • my taurus 1911 doesnt jump any worse then that

  • I can't wait to get one

    Kel-Tec needs to step up production

  • that looks as unreliable as my p22, maybe more

  • @paulc43 It ran fine with the CCI Maximags. Some guns are picky with amunition. Given that CCI maximags are the standard (IMO) on 22WMR, I don't think its a big deal.

  • Any plans to get an RMR 30? The new rifle version?

  • We would love to see that thing go head to head with the Five-seven...

  • Looks like a sweet pistol to practice/plink with. Is .22 magnum relatively inexpensive and easy to find?

  • really good review, enjoyed it. it would be a bad idea to pick a fight with someone carrying that thing. who cares if a 5.7x28 is faster. IMO would you rather get kicked in the head with a steal toed boot or just a regular boot, either way you loose. arguments over caliber is goofy.

  • In your opinion do you think the two fails where because of the Grain and Overall weight of the rounds that are not the ones that are recommended?

    Also as for concealed carry do you think that its a better choice than my Glock 22? I have been looking for a replacement and this weapon looks like a good alternative.

    Thanks