Now complete and can be seen at VSCC meetings 2010, 1 tonne of car with 300 HP, check Youtube for Darracq and Walker. It is now ROAD LEGAL!!!!!. Yes, you read that correctly.
Ya know as enlightened as all of you fools are trying to sound on automotive technology/history you'd think someone wouldve mentioned how impressive and unique it was that this engine is an overhead valve setup. That configuration wasn't offered by ford until 1954. Pretty impressive for a 1906. Too bad a steemer blew this things doors off : P
They are running this engine without a radiator or coolant which is not a terribly bright idea unless it is aircooled.I am not familiar with this engine,they seem to be not knowing what they are doing and it appears that this engine needs an overhaul or serious attention before they blow it up
OMG,Hey guys,,this is [whats left ]of the original car that raced on Daytona-Ormund, Florida,1905-06 I think,,,,2 years later,[1907] Glenn Curtiss set a motorcycle record of 137mph on a 250cid V-8 motorcycle,,now at Smithsonian,,NOW for kickkers,I believe the race rule was" anything goes,,as long as it weighs less than a ton [ metrick ] [ 2204lbs],To race at Daytona it would have gone across the scale,,Dont take these pioneers litely,,Reed up on Hemery,,,and you'll never forget him,,Cheers,Ben
Let me assure you, that is a 25 litre engine, it may be smaller than that ford motor u mentioned, but there isnt as much metal around the bores as u think, ive seen a Hispano Suiza 18L car do the quarter mile down here at the geelong speed trials, sounded just as good, and i got to see it pu close, and it was alot small than this car's engine
I'm surprised at the claimed size of this engine. (25 litres) Was just looking at a picture of an IHRA race motor of 815 cubic inches (Ford) and at half the displacement, it was twice the physical size. You gotta have big pistons and a long stroke to get 25 litres. instead of 107 the IHRA car ran 214 mph in only 1/4 mile. Yeah! Progress.
However...doing the math: a 170 mm piston (6.7 inches) and a 140 mm stroke (5.5 inches) by the formula Bore X bore X stroke X .7854 X (number of cyl) 8 equals 1551 cubic inches! or...the claimed 25 litres. And only 200 hp! A NHRA Top Fuel motor (500 cubic inches) can put out 8500 hp and go over 325 mph in a standing start 1/4 mile.
Long stroke, cast crank rods, pistons, and imprefect balancing means that this can't run at NHRA top fuel engine speeds. Plus you have to consider that they are running nitromethane fuel at suipidly high compression ratios with over 50 PSI of boost on top of that. NHRA motors are the steroid freaks of the engine world.
that means each cylinder is over 3 liters, larger than most engines today are in total. or, one cylinder is roughly the equivalent of Two honda 1.8liter I4's and nearly 3 1.3liter mazda rotary's
quality motor ! shame about the shocking carbs and design of the inlet manifold... I would probably go the sacraligeous route and wedge 4 weber 45's on... !!!
Neat car!! Although judging by the external size of the engine, there isn't enough room inside that engine for the pistons and stroke to accomodate 1550 cubic inches. In fact its imposible from what I'm seeing in this video. The biggest V8 of that "external size" would probably be around 800+ cubic inches such as that built by Jon Kaase for naturally aspirated prostock style engines. Still awesome though!
Wow. You know close to nothing but that in itself isn't a bad thing. What makes your post bad is that you posted it. Research how things work or at least ASk someone for input instead of making blind guesses.
Originally, it was started using a length of a steel bar, inserted into one of several holes drilled in the perimeter of the flywheel. Exactly the same manner in which antique Holt and Best gas tractors and crawlers were started.
Imagine driving this thing on a freeway today and overtaking modern cars.The look on people's faces must be quite something to behold.I bet the brakes on the thing is terrible though.
The first V8 appeared even BEFORE 1905.Ader in 1903 and Rolls Royce in 1904.Cadillac in 1914.The Darracq reached 120mph (192km/h) in 1905.I say the guy driving and his mechainc must have been crazy to drive that fast in such a flimsy car.Most people had horses in 1905.This car had 200horses and went 3 times as fast as any horse.Scary.Brave men indeed.
from the website that i read about this car, many people died on this car, or at least another just like it , they made very few, were all had machined. they had mechanics on board just to keep it running. as far as i can remember like 5 mechanics died on it...
not the smoothest running thing in the world is it?
herbienbrian2 1 year ago
@gwillo1 it wasn't finished then. Know it's got radiator and oil tank
greenlaning 1 year ago
Now complete and can be seen at VSCC meetings 2010, 1 tonne of car with 300 HP, check Youtube for Darracq and Walker. It is now ROAD LEGAL!!!!!. Yes, you read that correctly.
JW0149 1 year ago
Is that Ena Sharples in the background at 5:44 ?
Actually Im suprised a 25 litre engine would even fire being fed by those 2 little SU Carbs
RReaper100 1 year ago
what a beauty.
the13joker 1 year ago
Ya know as enlightened as all of you fools are trying to sound on automotive technology/history you'd think someone wouldve mentioned how impressive and unique it was that this engine is an overhead valve setup. That configuration wasn't offered by ford until 1954. Pretty impressive for a 1906. Too bad a steemer blew this things doors off : P
noizeof77 1 year ago
200bhp. And before you take the wee-wee, remember that this was in 1905. And this car killed four mechanics.
tonylockhart1963 1 year ago
Anyone have a idea of the power of this motor in HP??? Tank´s
fernando140887 1 year ago
Eh, those people were crasy...
deucenor 1 year ago
wow! awesome motor!
lol V8's look funny without a valley cover intake setup.
Paiste402 2 years ago
They are running this engine without a radiator or coolant which is not a terribly bright idea unless it is aircooled.I am not familiar with this engine,they seem to be not knowing what they are doing and it appears that this engine needs an overhaul or serious attention before they blow it up
gwillo1 2 years ago
lmao at ford
dognz75 2 years ago
OMG,Hey guys,,this is [whats left ]of the original car that raced on Daytona-Ormund, Florida,1905-06 I think,,,,2 years later,[1907] Glenn Curtiss set a motorcycle record of 137mph on a 250cid V-8 motorcycle,,now at Smithsonian,,NOW for kickkers,I believe the race rule was" anything goes,,as long as it weighs less than a ton [ metrick ] [ 2204lbs],To race at Daytona it would have gone across the scale,,Dont take these pioneers litely,,Reed up on Hemery,,,and you'll never forget him,,Cheers,Ben
cben09 2 years ago
The rocker arms look like they are all doing they're own thing without any rhyme or reason. More random rather than actual timed operation.
gregwddriver 2 years ago
I was intensively looking for updates as this project evolved. Great stuff.
For fun: word "darra" means in finnish (slang) language very bad and shaky hangover. :D
NesteHukka 2 years ago
is that belt comeing from of cam to start it?
gremlinkiller 3 years ago
thats sick as
gremlinkiller 3 years ago
that must be a huge grind on that cam..lump.lump.lump...shame you couldn't get a holley and a 6/71 back then...lol.
ziggassedup 3 years ago
La bete Francaise.
helmuthoorn 3 years ago
That's cool, but, my neighbors Ford F150 sounds and smokes just like that.
IC2720 3 years ago 3
Thats ford for ya... lol
MunkyBoy22 2 years ago
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@IC2720 ha now thats funny!
bighead29058 1 year ago
how much hp to max rpm did this baby put out??
bikr1975 4 years ago
Let me assure you, that is a 25 litre engine, it may be smaller than that ford motor u mentioned, but there isnt as much metal around the bores as u think, ive seen a Hispano Suiza 18L car do the quarter mile down here at the geelong speed trials, sounded just as good, and i got to see it pu close, and it was alot small than this car's engine
veyron2008 4 years ago
Wow, how much is that worth? I would have to guess well over a million at barret Jackson
redwingryders 4 years ago
I'm surprised at the claimed size of this engine. (25 litres) Was just looking at a picture of an IHRA race motor of 815 cubic inches (Ford) and at half the displacement, it was twice the physical size. You gotta have big pistons and a long stroke to get 25 litres. instead of 107 the IHRA car ran 214 mph in only 1/4 mile. Yeah! Progress.
oldmusher 4 years ago
However...doing the math: a 170 mm piston (6.7 inches) and a 140 mm stroke (5.5 inches) by the formula Bore X bore X stroke X .7854 X (number of cyl) 8 equals 1551 cubic inches! or...the claimed 25 litres. And only 200 hp! A NHRA Top Fuel motor (500 cubic inches) can put out 8500 hp and go over 325 mph in a standing start 1/4 mile.
oldmusher 4 years ago
Amazing how far mechanical and fuel technologies, as well as our understanding of them, have come, isn't it?
Alisterwolf66 4 years ago
not in 1905 they didn't
FordRulesChevySucks 3 years ago
Long stroke, cast crank rods, pistons, and imprefect balancing means that this can't run at NHRA top fuel engine speeds. Plus you have to consider that they are running nitromethane fuel at suipidly high compression ratios with over 50 PSI of boost on top of that. NHRA motors are the steroid freaks of the engine world.
caterpillarnut 3 years ago
Sounds like pure evil :D I LOVE it
Bergstaller01 4 years ago 2
Damn! That's cool. It sounds like my lawnmower...
eddiehenjr 4 years ago 3
LOL, I love it how when it starts it almost twists itself out of the car.
TheFartenator 4 years ago
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wow what a peace of crap lol
danbuzzer 4 years ago
not for 1905.
aleks6989 4 years ago 5
spirfire engine or something?
sounds like a airplane.
tomorrow500 4 years ago
Thats amazing. I wouldent take it over 30kays.lol
aussiedrifter93 4 years ago
Astonishing how far the automibile has come. Both ends of the spectrum are amazing.
keetonbob 4 years ago
Thats ridiculous, a 25 liter V8
that means each cylinder is over 3 liters, larger than most engines today are in total. or, one cylinder is roughly the equivalent of Two honda 1.8liter I4's and nearly 3 1.3liter mazda rotary's
aleks6989 4 years ago
You're an idiot, it's a 1905 engine, you don't understand this? go to hell with your fuckin' ricers
madmatt3205 4 years ago 2
I said it to aleks6989 ;)
madmatt3205 4 years ago
Awesome job guys, what an amazing piece of machinery! I wish that I was there to see it running in the flesh!! Good luck with the rest of it.
carskyavenue 4 years ago
quality motor ! shame about the shocking carbs and design of the inlet manifold... I would probably go the sacraligeous route and wedge 4 weber 45's on... !!!
05111605 4 years ago
If all you blokes really want to find out about this car go to the web site that I listed in the description.
Dont make wild guesses about it
devo100 4 years ago
comon. we wana see it drive and start doing some burnouts !]
nickypoo31 4 years ago
haha!!! i love seeing the intake valves opening and closing on top of the engine!!!
aekholm10 4 years ago
wooooooooaw... Awesome.... THAT's a V8...... congratulations, guys !
uscar17 4 years ago
sounds like a airplane
Dugster11 4 years ago
Wow. 3+ liters per jug. :shakes head:
mmmmna 4 years ago
hehe engineered properly imagine what a supercharger would do?
adamnshane 4 years ago
Neat car!! Although judging by the external size of the engine, there isn't enough room inside that engine for the pistons and stroke to accomodate 1550 cubic inches. In fact its imposible from what I'm seeing in this video. The biggest V8 of that "external size" would probably be around 800+ cubic inches such as that built by Jon Kaase for naturally aspirated prostock style engines. Still awesome though!
mine1username 4 years ago
i agree, seeing a 27 litre rolls royce Merlin engine kind of indicates the physical size required for such a large displacement engine
Gavyn84 4 years ago
I see a lot of smoke only!!!
BenTight 4 years ago
amazing to see the valves working on on top of the cylinders... i think his maxumum rpm is about 1500-2000rpm ???
all in all maybe 100hp ???
cNcFalc 4 years ago
Burning a bit of oil there? lol. But seriously, that's so freakin awsome!
salemcripple 4 years ago
it is suprisingly quiet while idling... For a 25 liter V8 i mean.
Anhaedra 4 years ago
wow 25 liters to go 108 mph thats hilarious
Chino423 4 years ago
that was over a hundred years ago
rjsny350 4 years ago
but youve gotta think back to when this was built ;) this was the fastes the bigest the everything in its day
JimsED3 4 years ago
beautiful, thank you very much.
varflane 4 years ago
Yes, PLEASE let me do over 100 mph in that!
guapowesley 4 years ago
how much power did it hav?
sxceyes 4 years ago
it's a coffin with wheels and engine.... lol
peteronzo 4 years ago
25 litre! wottttt!
19jacobob93 4 years ago
Excellent video! I just bought a V8 car art poster from cartech49 dot gr. Great fun art for my garage wall!
chrisutubecom 4 years ago
id like to see that in a 32 ford
whipthegoat 4 years ago
Shame on you.They did have SU carburettors in 05.
1633ruthlor 4 years ago
Since it smokes so heavily I assume it has a total loss lubrication system.
I guess there's water in the block but no radiator necessary for a short run. The steam escapes from those vents.
108 mph with such basic technology available at the time.
Did they use salt flats or a beach for the record attempt in 1905?
Take her to Bonneville and let her loose!
NJPurling 4 years ago
Wow. You know close to nothing but that in itself isn't a bad thing. What makes your post bad is that you posted it. Research how things work or at least ASk someone for input instead of making blind guesses.
uyesu 4 years ago
A rubber band to start it, well even a 102 year old car needs some help to get turned over. good job on raising the dead..
chitty chitty bang bang that's funny
puka59 4 years ago
r u shittin me awsome looks like chitty chitty bang bang lol SICK
abc12366666 4 years ago
i wonder how they got the damn thing started in 1905?
avarlives 4 years ago
they got it going with a hand crank
tocaracer06 4 years ago
are you sure about that?? the engine seems a bit big for that, even a strong man. The tractor was even struggling to turn it over.
avarlives 4 years ago
well im not positive, im guessing they show the fly wheel and use a motor and belt, thats my guess
tocaracer06 4 years ago
Originally, it was started using a length of a steel bar, inserted into one of several holes drilled in the perimeter of the flywheel. Exactly the same manner in which antique Holt and Best gas tractors and crawlers were started.
I recommend you go check out the site.
Alisterwolf66 4 years ago
Well done!
coopers66 4 years ago
does it ever driv3e?
taylorshm01 4 years ago
Amazing! (Noticed the number plates... take it on the shopping run!!)
boo66 4 years ago
Goodness, it almost stalls the tractor out to start that thing!
johonn 4 years ago
Jesus Christ that thing's beasty :D
MofoKaye 4 years ago
that thing is MONSTROUS! great job!
corvette6698512 4 years ago
I wouldn't drive that thing if it went 5 M.P.H
98837 4 years ago
What a fantastic machine, a testament to Edwardian engineering! Good work in restoring her engine guys
monkeyboy27476 4 years ago
Darracq, the pre-alfa romeo I think
LanciaTurbo 4 years ago
Can you imagine the work involved? Also, dig the belt starter!
dkruitz 4 years ago
all that smoke! haha
dustin1441 4 years ago
Takes guts to go over 100mph in that thing! haha wow
tommay11 4 years ago
no doubt!
ztwntyn8 4 years ago
I believe this is a replica but built to the exact measurements and plans as the original Darracq.
McLarenMercedes 4 years ago
this is older than my 1965 mustang
thehill82 4 years ago
Really? what makes you say that?
andTO86 4 years ago
Fascinating
welsty2003 5 years ago
thats an awesome engine
bringonthedawn 5 years ago
SU carbs
SPOOKSTR 5 years ago
F A N T A S T I C
lovingtanja 5 years ago
Those carbs look like su:s what are they? Awesome engine by the way...
Fluffezorg 5 years ago
in the days where men were men
danielmills3 5 years ago
Imagine driving this thing on a freeway today and overtaking modern cars.The look on people's faces must be quite something to behold.I bet the brakes on the thing is terrible though.
Metallicakicksbutt 5 years ago
The first V8 appeared even BEFORE 1905.Ader in 1903 and Rolls Royce in 1904.Cadillac in 1914.The Darracq reached 120mph (192km/h) in 1905.I say the guy driving and his mechainc must have been crazy to drive that fast in such a flimsy car.Most people had horses in 1905.This car had 200horses and went 3 times as fast as any horse.Scary.Brave men indeed.
McLarenMercedes 5 years ago 4
nice !
xzoon123 4 years ago
from the website that i read about this car, many people died on this car, or at least another just like it , they made very few, were all had machined. they had mechanics on board just to keep it running. as far as i can remember like 5 mechanics died on it...
mageac 4 years ago
this is an old v8?
djex16 5 years ago
Wow! Fascinating!
deiterhogradish 5 years ago