TankSpot's Guide to Flame Leviathan Hard Mode

[Mrtvababa]

every time u sneeze a noob party wipes gnomer...

[kaloryfer99999]

26 people wipped this boss.

[GameMachine3000]

lol i beat flame leviathan 10 man all towers up on heroic with only 4 peeps! got video of it!

[MrBastosa]

TOO COMPLEX! :P

[TheWeirdMusic]

Tankspot sucks.

[TMarshNFLD]

bad explanation

[rcw56]

some1 lagged :P

[KitnKiller]

For those who are saying, "It's not explained well," or "They should have gone more in depth."

0:26 - 0:35

This is the hard-mode version, if you don't understand watch the regular version first.

[jas160189]

yeh wot u suppose to do in the chopper numpty?? u need to explain in detail dude or ppl aint gunna get it

[SuperDan53]

@jas160189

Try learning Normal Tactics first Numbnuts.

[GameRecorder123]

@jas160189 see normal first idiot.He explains it there this is hard mode.

[darknite121]

i remember back in the day wheb this was a bitch

[rainingblood0187]

while this is a great, in depth explanation, tankspot should also do a short version of each video as well.

i.e., tanks do this, DPS stand here and do this, heals do this, the end

[bartzner93]

hardmode on this boss now has only 88m hp.... but still cant be pugged cuz ppl dont know how to do the hardmode correctly

[Decka657]

@premiedusten,thats what she said.

[Funkypotato14]

Did he die?

[premiedusten]

Dude, that thing's really big!

[muffemod]

i don't understand how it's a leviathan

[Soulless97]

what is that addon you use for your attacks?

[roboneko77]

do they even have a NORMAL flame leviathan strategy?

[Attaxor93]

what do you need to know for that one?

read the buttons and learn

[chaossaga]

No need for one, if you fail at it, then you simply are FAIL>

[wow9510]

they down. ive checked

[darksaiyan2006]

@roboneko77 Is it actually needed?

[sk8ercody2]

Um how about that adds from fray i no i should have non this but i always skiped this hard and now i have a alg run that were doing this today im so confused :L

[SkInK90]

Anyone know a guide for beginners as he said he's assuming people know mechanics etc already.

[Jabeckham94]

Whatch their normal guide?

[MerlynMusicman]

Knock, knock, knock on wood (Freya) isn't too tough. Not compared to Firefighter ;)

[kungfoopandaa]

merlynmusicman..i would tend to disagree with you..FREYA IS FUCKING TOUGH

i have completed freya 25m hm and the fight revolves around different raid attributes than mimiron..mimiron is all about control...freya is all about numbers and working smoothly..and... imo from my experiences..i would actually say mimiron is slightly easier just aslong as ur raid isnt full of retards

[Evaseven]

oh good God, firefighter is brutal

[aramco123]

nah m8 FL HM on 10-25 is the easiest boss in Ulduar second is hodir but Freya and Yogg or general forget it if your not skilled or hardcore raider.

[xcloudx01]

Confusing lol

[OIYM091]

u didnt explain it too well ....

[Grimthang]

lol if u didnt understand it... dont try it

[Shaeam]

@OIYM091 Lulz.

You can't be serious...? Your having trouble on FLAME LEVIATHAN? Hes like lootships its practically faceroll unless your retarded... Hard mode or not.

Its a fight that needs no explanation.

[Keniisan]

@Shaeam

One year ago, where not everybody is overgeared

[Shaeam]

@Keniisan It was still cakewalk, just like when Lootships was first released, just because there was a few wipes when it was released doesn't mean it wasnt cakewalk.

[marioman756]

@Shaeam yeah the vehicles scale to gear......ulduar lvl gear is HARDLY what ppl are running around in now

[Shaeam]

@marioman756 Did you even bother to read the comment before you responded? It was cakewalk then, its still cakewalk now, the difficulty was always easy, it just got easier when ToC/ICC came out.

[dragoro7]

this is very confusing

[DarthSlayden]

.... im lost

[AnTiFailz]

How does he hide his original party frame?

[Lemurps]

There's a default option in pitbull that does that.

[boppey90]

3 things 1 before fight make sure all your units are healed 2 when the units with the shields and speed boosts arent or might be targeted right before get them to move away 3 destroy towers before the fight

[russiangirl112]

hard mode looks not easy even with this boss. but i have question pls i throw the players to the boss again and again without stop ? or sometimes

[pmadude160]

this hard mode has been nerfed since this movie, it has dropped by 90 million health

[gamegeek1995]

this fight is easier now that Choppers can shuttle pyrite, still difficult to keep 10 pyrite stacks up

[zell0912]

One thing to do also, if your a bear tank or a moonkin/resto druid and your vehicle dies you can quickly taunt the boss, even if you are killed ina second by the rockets that gives your raid a second more to dps the leviathion

[thegreatjojo1]

It took us like 4 tries last week,it was so damn annoying

[baggeghfreak]

its accualy easier to do shutout mode. since you can just nuke him with barrels :) make things alot easier instead of doing the catapult thingy :D

[rainoffireandwater]

whats ur hp bar add-on i want it

[scheisskind69]

sounds like mr. garrison

[Kapten]

the background music makes u think its a movie about seacreatures or smth

[helpmycatsonfire]

Great video.

You done any vids on the medium modes (e.g. FL+2)?

[hellspawn215]

is this 10 or 25?

[PerfectCreations]

You can do hardmode on 10man's too.

[offeed]

oh didn't know that :)

[Nguhuan]

Heroic = 25-man.

Hard-mode = increased difficulty.

There's 10-man hard-mode.

[Downgr4de]

hard mode = 4 towers, reguardless of raid size

But yes, it was 25

[hbbadgermonkey]

Try looking at the raid frame?

[Pizzalatv]

25 ofc

[Problematiq]

can you not see grid?

[spyroo33]

hey guys if you sit in a corner when youre under pursute he wont attack you

[Aeron53]

Impressive PC you've got dude.

[Reibus]

Anyone know the name of his enemy name plate addon

[jadedpunk]

what addon gives that kind of scrolling combat text so its on the right and flows into the bottom??

[MistakesAreMade]

Msbt - mikes scrolling battle text

but try Msbt first

[JohannesWOW]

sunnart

[AxxeelR8]

Can anyone pls give me a info about his black spaces that are located top and bottom of the screen? As in the the parts of the screen where the action bars are, the recount, the chat window (on bottom) and where th buff frame is (on top)

[shadowgamer2121]

Ct:Viewport or Aperture.

[hatetx]

does any1 know what addon hes using to get his stuff like that?????????

[N0TNAMED]

He is using a view port addon, grid, sexymap, recount, omen, a chatmod (like chatmod).

[toelessjack]

"stuff like that"... by that you mean... his UI?

[cqbcrb326]

Well, this was a great video, my guild is still having problems coordinating this great vid ciderhelm, on another note, Imust say it's awesome that healers finally get a healing weapon but I also feel sorry for them, such a great weapon seems to only be good for ulduar as items increase in power, so I believe this legendary to some will be obsolete, tanks and dps shouldn't QQ because their ilvls will be higher than this legendary from the looks of things, sorry healers :(

[NicolaizXz]

Ciderhelm, what is the name of the attack you do that pull down at right side?

[robichaud99]

WRONG its not going to be legendary... its an Artifact rarity

[jesternick1]

you dont know that

[robichaud99]

uhm i do...

[Alamation]

Legendary...Artifact...fucking difference? they are BOTH super items...leave it at that =/

[omgukilledkenny109]

rly well the link is available now and it looks like a legendary piece...

[robichaud99]

link it to me please

[Wowchrippe]

haha artifact? there is nothing called artifact its just something that thottbot made up

[robichaud99]

we will see:P

[IShigenariI]

For those who want to know how to get their unit frames looking like Ciderhelm's, here's a guide.

1) Download Pitbull Unit Frames

2) Enable the portraits module

3) Set the 'side' of the portrait on the frames you're using to centre (Under Other>Portraits)

4) Change the width and height of the frames as you like. You might also have to set the health bar's position to health bar again xD

If I've missed anything, it shouldn't be difficult to work it out.

[Skurgefaust]

i still like xperl better but those are very clean looking unit frames. i can get them to look very close to Ciders

[Blobbattle]

What dropped?

Please respond

[Celsiuz]

If you know where I can get the song in this video, please send me a private message or respond to this comment.

[Jksnk]

I want a tank weapon/shield legendary grr

[Watchoutimbehindyou]

that would be nice. Maybe, just maybe. One day.

[XG0DZPUR3X]

My guild got the legendary weapon off of 25man normal mode FL. You need 30 fragments for the quest which might be hard for our guild

[AuzzieREP69]

WTB Melee DPS Legendary weapon. /cry healer weapon FTL

[SurrealLeaf]

Melee dps legendary? lol? Theres 5 melee dps legendary weapons already. And 1 healer legendary and 1 caster legendary thats not available anymore. So I dont know why you are complaining. Respect your healers. Geez.

[agentzero1627]

stop crying. its the healers that keep u alive in raids. be thankful they get such a good weapon

[MoJoGimpie]

Its the tanks that make it so you dont die from getting 1 shotted.. and its the DPS that make it so the fight goes quick enough you dont go OOM... i think the plan is in IceCrown DPS get a Legandary weapon .... and to be honest the mace is good for i think Shamans and druid...

[agentzero1627]

Ya the lich kings sword is definatly going to be a legendary

[pureowned25]

Dude, 2 Legendary weps dropped pre-bc, healers got none

2 dropped in bc, healers got none

we get one in wotlk, and every dps is QQ'ing about it

[xadvo]

3 legendary drop pre-bc one was a staff that healer/dps caster could use but yea dps shouldn't qq there will be a dps legendary in icecrown.. Frostmourne? :O

[svesinieks]

yea im not a healer but You guys deserve it imo the dps is fine with all the uldu epix

[Wigglypower]

Atiesh?

[Magha112]

natekers lesson 1: Never Pug Ulduar, 90% of the cases it l33t fail

[kuse9]

my server does full 25 runs pug'd in ulduar.. i got my first achieves in pugs

that "lesson" is bs really :P It all depends on the server.

[joshb306]

what realm do you play on...

[kuse9]

Magtheridon EU

[josh2alterak]

not much of a surprise then lol magtheridon got the best raid guild in the world on that server

[kuse9]

How does Ensidia being on Magtheridon affect the qualities of PUG's?

[josh2alterak]

it doesnt it just shows partially that some of the best raiders are on that server

[SanderGabber]

we 4manned Flame Leviathan +1 tower -_- and people wipe on FL with 10man? O_o

[Rogoror80]

lol If you pugged and died on FL ez mode... then not slackers but really mindless people didnt do there job right

[coyote7272]

its puggable

[Jac7993]

What are the best addons for warriors?

because im starting my warrior tomarow and speed lvling him as fast as i can to 60 so i can start tankin g in outlands with my friends then to lichking content..but whats the best addons i can get?i know you get 500 of these questions but i was just wondering

[TheRolling]

Which addon makes the timer on his screen for his Pyrite stack? The little box with the timer in it?

[Jac7993]

hi yes im starting a warrior tank and havent played since Pre bc..

my question is what stats do i eed to crack down on are?Plez reply as soon as you can or anyone that can help me^^

keep up the good vids man and Gj on uldar raids.

[AoGxGhostface]

stam, defense is the ones i focus on..and then parry and dodge and all those other ones

[Joker5133]

Deadly boss mods almost a nessicity for raiding

[cleanshot777]

What addon makes the lower part of the screen black?

[UnrelentingAssault]

Eepanels2 or KGPanels.

[CwBStRykR55]

this fight has been nerfed to the ground -25% overall health and hodirs beam doesn't slow

[nerzul82]

What addon makes his Mini-map look like that! Its awsome looking...

[denkule100]

SexyMap

[hiimnevin]

Sexymap addon

[Gutsa17]

How does he make his unitframes look like that? With only Pitbull it is not possible, or is it? Is there another addon that you need for the skins, or? Please reply!

Thanks in advance.

[poisomike87]

its grid

[Dontchokeonfear]

hard!

[SupaDupaL33t]

i pugged for 25man FL and we finished it on our second try with all four towers down. he had about 70,000K health

[superdupercerals]

ರ_ರ what?

[Gutsa17]

I think hes using Pitbull 4. Though, does any1 know how to make your unitframes look like his? I can't get that look with Pitbull 4 alone. What other addon do I need to get that and/or many other skins?

Thanks in advance! And a big thanks to Ciderhelm for the very informative videos!

[orginallos]

If you mean the raid UI its Grid his own unit frames is as far as i know pitbull, tried it but i swtiched back to xper, way easier

[Gutsa17]

No, I know that his unitframes (player, target, target of target, ...) are Pitbull 3 (or 4). I'm asking how to get that skin? Do I need another addon, which one?

[Lemurps]

You don't need another addon as far as I can tell. Just change the settings/modules/position around.

[jman451]

The unit frames mod he is using looks like grid, very close to the default settings.

[Gutsa17]

I'm not talking about his raid frames, obviously that's the addon Grid, I use it too. I'm asking what addon (or whatever) he uses to make his unit frames (player, target, target of target) look like that. You can't achieve that with just Pitbull, I've tryed.

[MoJoGimpie]

What is the addon you are using for your halth frames and the boss health frames

[br3tthadl3y]

pitbull 3.0

[Keyshredder]

lol, if you look closely, u can see the tanks do like 20k dps

[Dukefist]

Nice movie! want to see a epic XT-hard mode though, waiting for it ^^

[Joker5133]

ive never been able to figure it out are you horde or ally

[ZombieMascot]

ally

[Tom61787]

Ciderhelm is Alliance, part of the guild Eventide on Garrosh US Realm. they are a top guild on the server.

[RyuTheAwesome]

Lore, however, is horde.

[TheMank35]

yep the GM of the guild Months Behind on Eredar

[phosphorus13]

If you can't beat flame leviathan easy mode, you shouldn't be in Ulduar.

[Gutsa17]

Thanks, great vid! Could you -Ciderhelm- or any1 else please tell me what addon you/he is using and if it is Pitbull, how does it get it to look like that? What addon will I need to get that skin?

Thanks in advance!

[Mahmoetah]

Epic movie again, hope to see XT-hard mode soon.

[fartfalcon]

natekers, it is a lot easier to find videos about easy modes than it is hard modes.

i think its awesome that ciderhelm spends his time making videos about hard modes, as opposed to easy modes, since you can find a decent easy mode video anywhere.

awesome hard mode videos are hard to find.

[natekers]

i always love to find a new vid from you, ciderhelm.

i do find it weird, however, that you make a vid for a hardmode FL, but have not yet made one for easymode (0 towers up). and it is even weirder that you ask in your hardmode vid that users have a basic knowledge of the easymode encounter (vehicles/abilities). how are we supposed to know those things if we can't find a really good vid on that matter?

long story short: ciderhelm, will you ever add a vid for easy mode flame leviathan? thanks

[Ciderhelm]

Most likely not. I have a queue of several hard mode movies to complete and I would need to catch up on everything before I could go back and do Flame Leviathan normal. Like Archavon in tier 7 content, I just don't think it would be valuable to a large segment of the community, since most guilds will get through 0 tower in a matter of a half hour or so. For reference, almost 10,000 guilds have already done Flame Leviathan with at least one tower up.

[natekers]

i see, okay. but is there another vid you can recommend that shows how to do FL normal?

and i think you should compare apples with apples, not with pears. to me, FL is more akin to anub'rekhan/noth/patch/raz instead of archavon, which i think emalon is more akin to. you have made vids of those 4, although i think those are also done really fast by most guilds.

but if you don't have the time to do a FL normal mode, i can understand that. but can you recommend another vid that gives hints?

[strikerk]

FL normal can be done with people with downs.

Seriously, you don't even have to launch anyone. Just kite and spray.

[natekers]

well, i just want to get into a fight prepared...

first time i went into OS10, we wiped on shadron because both healers took the portal, and after that everyone left.

first time in naxx10, we wiped 2 times on anub (me as OT) because the MT could not kite and the DPS could not switch. i even had a wipe once as MT on heigan (camera problems).

if puggers can wipe on those, i am certain they can wipe on FL on 10 man. and because i am not in a raiding guild, i rely on pug raids.

[jhinck2112]

The time you spent replying could have been used going to wow wiki for a list of vehicle and boss abilities.

The work has been done. Stop being lazy and asking others to find it for you.

[strikerk]

60% of guilds in WoW have World firsts on Leviathan because they ran in there and steamrolled him on normal on day 1.

Sounds like you just run with baddies on a bad server.

[natekers]

read both my comments again.

have i ever said i have done FL? nope. i just wiped on other bosses that normal people can't wipe on.

i have not yet done FL, but i just want to enter the instance prepared (unlike half of those scrubs who don't even know the tactics for the twilight drakes and fail epicly on flame waves and voidzones). and i want to know if there are any special things i need to know.

but like you said, wowwiki has supplied me with what i need for this. just need a bit more info.

[natekers]

just a little extra info: i pugged FL normal easymode yesterday, or i tried to.

we wiped 1 time on trash, because noone took a bike.

then we wiped 2 times on FL himself. que? you said it is not possible to wipe on FL. indeed, horde side on Kor'Gall consists of 20% decent raiders, and 80% slackers with no skill. first wipe was because noone interrupted/no overloads. second wipe, we did those, but half of the players were already dead by the time we did the first overload.

easy boss? yeah right

[strikerk]

Dude, over 2000 guilds got World first on that guy day 1.

This is truly, not even maybe, truly a sign that you (and your crew) suck. This isn't an insult. It's a matter of fact. Sorry.

[natekers]

i don't have a raiding guild.

i totally have to rely on pugs. as i said, about 80% of our server suck at raiding. i have wiped 2 times on FL himself and 1 time on the trash on to him

maybe it is because all the other players took of ALL their gear (except trinkets/jewelry/cloak), while i kept all my gear on.

[luminousnerd]

ROFL

Your raiders took off their gear? THAT is why you wiped. They are complete idiots.

The item level of your gear affects the health of your vehicle. No gear = very little health = guaranteed wipe.

Morons.

[Hitmen1213]

you said it yourself, your server just sucks the boss isnt hard

[Zaftikins]

natekers, why would you bother telling everyone that you were terrible. This is the easiest boss in a long time and can honestly be done with your eyes closed. If you wiped, it is not because he is hard, it is because you are stupid.

[adisc48]

Fuck up you scrub.

If you need help on how to do flame leviathan easy mode, you have downs.

[metalthunder777]

Are you playing on ultra settings and which resolution you're using?

[dirkslater]

most likely 16:9

[taurenXL08]

are you going to do a montorge when u get the iron proto drake like you did with the black 1 from the achievments of naxx malagos ect

[Qieth]

Great vid, Ciderhelm. Could you, however, add some comments on how to handle the hard mode on 10 man? We don't have our pick of vehicles as you do, and thus, i expect the strategy to be a bit different.

[KSquared57]

Video/Screenshot or it never happened Darkgod.

Especially since that's damn near impossible, lol.

[lamx12345]

makke a addon video!!!!!

[misfit496]

Very good guide. Thanks. :]

[darkgodmx2]

Cool good guide, lol my guild did this last night with only 18 people and got the achievement....

First time in there btw for me.

Chopper owns!

[Deovindice2001]

Wow thats bad ass, nice job

[ruben1278694]

2:30 xd He studdered XD nice first time i see that cool nice vid

[HlgHysteria]

what is the addon that makes the top and bottom of his screen black?

[lovestopwnnoobs]

cbh viewport

[warhawk2006]

CBH Viewport. I like a mod similar to it. It's called Sunn - Viewport Art and instead of just a black bar it adds a graphic

[glaarup]

didnt he say he used sunn - viewport art? that got a solid color option too

[Donutman68]

sweet thx

[Nikolajisko]

my guildies did 10man 4 towers up without causing shutdown. talk about nerfing :P

[bqforlife]

Lol dude are you a robot?Because you are very good at what you are doing and very clear of what you are doing, And btw to all the smart asses, "yes I was playing around <.<"

[imaql8]

what add on do you have for your character frame