Notice what Piers said at the very beginning of the video. He calls homosexuality a "MORAL" issue. And that's what I think people are forgetting. What people do behind closed doors is their business. It doesn't need to be flaunted. If you want to participate in homosexual behavior, that's your right. But we do not have the right to expect people to tolerate or even accept that lifestyle. Again, homosexuality is a moral issue not a civil one.
@uberrawesomee Thank you. I mean, What is Piers talking about? Joel isn't a judge, he is a messenger. God said that homosexuality is a sin, Joel is just passing on the message. sheesh
1. God said that homosexuality was sin. If one has a problem with what God said ..take it up with God.
2. What kind of capricous God would make someone homosexual and then call homosexuality an abomination? by the way that word " abomination" in hebrew literally means it makes God sick to His stomach.
God did not leave us Helpless. Call out to be delivered from your sin...whatever it may be..and He will !
Joel Olsteen can "support" anything! I mean how long till I hear this dweeb say. in response to a "gotcha question" from some talking head, "Aw shucks, I like Satan, he was just misunderstood and we as Christians have to make room for Lucifer in our hearts. After all we cannot be seen as bigots against the Prince of Darkness".
The question you need to ask the homosexuals is why are they gay. God gave them the attributes to mate with the opposite sex yet they are attracted to the same sex. Why is that? This question needs to be answered in a Freudian perspective which tells us that all our preferences and choices are influenced by past experiences. Then we can judge this experience from an ethical point of view and chose if we want to accept it or reject it. That's it.
@TheBuddhasign nobody knows a 100% why gay people are gay. BUT it is certain that people are born gay. why do some people come out late? ask society. theyre all sooo friendy when it comes to different people.
Carl Sagan: How much more satisfying had we been placed in a garden custom-made for us, its other occupants put there for us to use as we saw fit. There is a celebrated story in the Western tradition like this, except that not quite everything was there for us. There was one particular tree of which we were not to partake, a tree of knowledge. Knowledge and understanding and wisdom were forbidden to us in this story
@currie1967 LOL so now you decide to try and seem collected without being immature about it. I appreciate your imposition of using Carl Sagan on me; however, the evidence doesn't oust the possibility of the existence of God and it never will. Evidence is just that: evidence. Evidence is not proof and does not fully disregard the possibility of God whatsoever. The possibility of His existence will always exist--that is the truth that science can try to deny but will never achieve to refute.
Homosexuality is a choice every bit as much as masturbation is a choice. I am a christian but I continue to sin the same sin again and again. Those who engage in homosexual activities can be saved and be in paradise just as I can, even if they engage in homosexual activities again and again. If you do not believe that, then why do you keep masturbating? Why do you keep being prideful? We are all sinners. We just all choose to sin and give into different temptations.
@ricodorean21 you know nothing. you confuse sexuality and actions. sexuality isnt a choice, acting on it is. since i dont believe in sin i dont really care.
@dayweed85a Well, I feel attraction towards men.. But I know that if I do it once, I might end up liking it so I won't do it. I don't want to get caught up in a new sin. You can argue if you like that maybe I am a closet homosexual. Feel free to. I guess I will go to my grave unaware that I should have been with men.. SO silly.... I choose not to be with men. Sex is sex... I'm allowed to be with women, so that is why I stick to that.
@ricodorean21 well you just admited to being gay or bi (if you feel attraction to both sexes). i dont really have to say anything about it. not acting on your attraction towards men doesnt make straight. well if you choose not to, thats your problem. youll never know what happiness it then or true love. you can love a friend, but youre not in love with her/him.
@dayweed85a I know true happiness and love. I have children who are my world, a God who loves me, and a wife who does the same. Look, true love isn't testicles smacking against my testicles. LOVE is so much more than that. You're silly.
@ricodorean21 no, youre silly. you think im talking about sex. im not. BUT, sex is also a part of a healthy relationship. i was talking about love. seeing your loved one, lighting up. when you always want to be near him/her. also if you knew something about gay sex, you would know that testicles dont smack testicles. just saying.
@ricodorean21 also its cool that youre happy. all im trying to achieve is, for young people to realize their sexuality, before they get married. its a proven fact that married men have a lot of gay sex. thats not healthy for anyone. im all for commitment. thats why i dont want religion telling me whats right and whats wrong. it only causes harm.
@dayweed85a Well, if I just admitted to being gay or bi, then how do I CHOOSE not to be with men. I guess I can CHOOSE to be with women huh... Cause I know it is wrong. Some people like having sex with kids too. They have felt that way since they were kids themselves. I guess they have always known they were going to be a pedophile. Is that ok too? Its a choice as well. They have to control themselves as well. Sorry..
1. you can choose not to be with someone, but you cannot choose not to be attracted to them. actions=/=sexuality
2. pedos are different. kids cant consent to sex, which makes it abuse. sex with 2 consenting adults is ok (it can also be an orgy for that matter, but im not into that), as long at they are the right age.
do you understand how silly your comment makes you?
@ricodorean21 and like i said, homosexuality isnt wrong. just because some ancient book says it, it doesnt make it true. love is a beautiful thing and that book is trying to deny it to people. thats wrong.
@dayweed85a Im not saying you shouldn't love. Geeze, now you are becoming dumb. Love is wonderful. But why do you insist that man on man intercourse is a "beautiful thing"??? Sex isn't love. Sex is a way of showing love. Being attracted to someone isn't my issue. Blowing them, beautiful anal sex with them. Those are the things which are the issues. How many women think that Mila Kunis is pretty? That doesnt mean they want to go dwn on her or will. Love.. you have the word all wrong.
@ricodorean21 why do you insist on telling me how i should live my life? sex is a way of showing love yes. i dont like to show my love to a vagina.. seriously.. do you even know how attraction works? i guess not, since the book hasnt showed it to you.
you have it all wrong. again you dont understand the difference with being pretty and being attractive. shes pretty but not attractive to me. and then you tell me im becoming dumb.. you have a mirror? say that and point.
@ricodorean21 why do you insist on telling me how i should live my life? sex is a way of showing love yes. i dont like to show my love to a vagina.. seriously.. do you even know how attraction works? i guess not, since the book hasnt showed it to you.
you have it all wrong. again you dont understand the difference with being pretty and being attractive. shes pretty but not attractive to me. and then you tell me im becoming dumb.. you have a mirror? say that and point.
sorry pierce but i do think that it is that simple where people get up and say let society tell us that being gay is okay then someone will allow themselves to believe that they are fine in Gods eyes when the bible clearly says that homosexuality is an abomination sorry pierce the only way that a person can get right in Gods eyes is by receiving Christ as their savior
@dayweed85a sorry its my job to share what i believe Luke writes in the Acts of the apostles chapter 4 peter says "we cannot stop sharing what we have seen nor what we have heard" so yea but the reality of it is that when i sure my beliefs i dont do it out of anger or bigotry but out of the love of Jesus Christ
@jdogg858 such a nice way to mask hate with love.. when you say that someone is an abomination it makes you a jerk. keep that name calling for yourself.
@dayweed85a see that's how i know that you are not paying attention to what im saying i that the things the person is doing is an abomination not the person themselves. Just like Jesus I dont hate the sinner i hate sin itself and im sorry you feel that im judging you i just want you to realize that God made man and woman to be with each other not man and man or woman with woman
@jdogg858 yeah yeah.. keep hating on people.. if you hate fundemental things on people, that means you hate people. period. it only shows that you know nothing about human nature.
@dayweed85a wrong...... human nature is to be sinful and not just with homosexuality but the bible clearly speaks of other sins that man is guilty of that's why we have to seek out Jesus and give him our soul that we can be justified in Gods eyes (Romans 5:1)
@jdogg858 who cares what the bible says? we have higher standards than the bible. bible is a guideline for people 2k years ago, not for the year 1950 or 1988 and certainly not 2012. bible is ignorant about human nature and our society. get with the times.. we know a lot more now that we did before. you can say whatever you want but calling people or thier actions an abomination makes you a hypocrite and a dumbass.
@dayweed85a nothing in this world is of higher standard than the written living word of God. this is not a book of men it is the inspired scripture that you cant understand because you don't want to understand but i tell you now the bible says clearly that there are 2 paths you can walk: righteousness and truth or condemnation and death. and the very fact that you would use derogatory words towards me shows how unwilling to understand the scriptures you are
@jdogg858 sure mister. my point is, religion killed more people than every war on this planet. yeah nice standards. lol you really are blind are you? XD
@dayweed85a so i will leave you with this thought 1 Corinthians 1: 18-19 "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
@dayweed85a well i do know that Christ is soon to return for his followers and all those who have died for more than 2,000 years for him will be resurrected and be in paradise with Christ forever and if you dont make the choice to receive Jesus as your personal savior you will remember in that moment what i have tried to explain to you. Jesus is willing to save you and he loves you more than you will ever know JOHN 3:16
Its almost as if osteen is backing away from his duties and responsibility of being a preacher of the Word of Jesus Christ. He's playing hopscotch with the Word of God!
Heaven will be your home say this prayer like youve never said anthing in your life. Jesus I know you are the son of God, I know that you were born, died, and rose again on the 3rd day forgive me of all of my sins, transform my life for your Glory, NOW I AM SAVED AMEN God bless whoever said that pray no go find a God believing, bible reading Church that they not only talk the talk but walk that walk.. God bless you guys. :)
turn from their wicked ways I pray that you accept Christ and let him work in your life like he did mine..if you want to receive salvation and God forbide you die even tonight be assured that
sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted.
See we are all sinners but we can be forgiven Christians still sin daily but the differance between the unsaved and the saved is that all the saved have to do is repent and they are on their way to heaven but the unsaved aren't going unless they repent and
No one that is unrepentive and did not receive him as their personal Lord and savior can Inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.
Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the
Now folks thats the God I serve and I pray that whoever reads this will be touched to the point of repentance and know that God is willing and waiting he can change those thoughts your lifestyle I am living proof of God's might works. The bible says:
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders.
extreme pain in my knees day and night no stop it was hard to get out of bed go up and down stairs even sleep at times so one day as I was reading I started to proclaim Isaiah 53:5 "...and by his stripes I am healed" and thanking God for my healing out the pain left for two weeks no pain I have never even went a day without pain till that day no I can run and jump and play sports like I use to. So not only did God heal me he delivered me from the spirit of homosexuality and addiction.
I have no desire for cigerettes, weed, liquor, fornications, but since Im a baby in a sense were I just rededicated my life to God I still have thoughts come to my mind but since I know that's the devil I say, "In the name of Jesus let go of my thoughts, I have the mind of Christ." BAM gone. See when you rebuke the devil and your a child of the living KING he aint got no choice but to go back where he came from. Also two weeks ago I was HEALED, I had surgery on my knee in 7th grade and I had
we did financial planning the whole shabang. About a month and a half ago I started feeling like what am I doing. I felt empty all the sex, drugs, liquor, a great relationship, money, great grades in school NOTHING made me satisfied I felt an empty and I knew I needed to find God again. So I attended the churcht that I went to when I was 11-15 years old and a week later a month ago yesterday I gave me life back to God.
I had gf left and right I was playing girls I mean dudes would ask me how I would get all theses girls and they send me pics and I would show my boys and they was like dang shorty sexy and we would talk and whatever so one day about 2 1/2 years ago I met this girl and we click I mean like man we would talk for hours and hours and I proposed we even lived together for a while and we planned out our entire life together, name of our children, wrote out business plans,
When I was 4 years old I had my first sexual experience with a girl and I felt so good it was like it was meant to be for years I battled my feeling because I did not know if it was right or wrong or anything. Mind you I was raised in a Christian household so Id hear one thing in church and feel this other way so for years I kept shut till I "came out" in high school and it felt right I had friends I was liked we would talk about our sexual experiences and so on and so forth.
All sex outside the confines for marriage as God ordained it ie one man and one woman is sin period. Whether is be heterosexual or homosexual. We all have our cross the bare. (Matthew 16:24) Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me
We all sin. Nobody is perfect so who cares. Whether you are gay or not you are a sinner so live with it Homosexuals!!! For those of you who spend time judging each other you are the ones who are probably bound to hell. The Truth is in Jesus and the Fool is in man and Man is foolish. We are all born as filthy rags only those who accept Jesus will be cleansed by the blood. Well, for the rest of you, you still are filthy rags. Thats why you talk dirty!
For all those who think that homosexuality is a mental illness or a choice, google "apa homosexuality" and be amazed at your stupidity. If you CHOOSE to reject the reserch of professionals all your other opinions become invalid since they arent the product of your research, but the product of your bigotry.
For all those who think that homosexuality is a mental illness or a choice, google "apa homosexuality" and be amazed at your stupidity. If you CHOOSE to reject the reserch of professionals all your other opinions become invalid since they arent the product of your research, but the product of your bigotry.
@dayweed85a [[when was the beggining? how old is the earth? is earth flat? were there dinosaurs? answer. you holy book says otherwise.]] Please cite the verse that gives an age. Isaiah 40:22 says its round not flat. Most of history didn't believe in flat earth contrary to popular belief. Anyone who has gone to sea knows this. Job describes large animals that can't exist today as well as Psalms and more.
@MayonR hmm you refuse to believe that its natural even though it occurs in nature, you refuse to believe its not a choice eventhough its said its not (and i can speak from personal exp).
@dayweed85a It has been shown that it doesn't happen in nature. This behavior in dogs is a display of dominance. The behavior in rhesus monkeys was societal acceptance and not sexual. This behavior in nature is not a homosexual motivation or inclination. Of course homosexuality is not natural.
@MayonR it has been shown that it does. many times actually. gay animals even made nests together. even if you dont believe it, humans are animals, part of nature. so its natural.
@dayweed85a [[gay animals even made nests together. ]] Ok, Reasoning we are animals therefore it is natural for a human to act as such. Then we should start eating other peoples young and rape women to further our genes. Animals are distinct from humans. An animal never murders but does engage in instinctual killing. you need to test your logic for consistency.
@dayweed85a Grouped by classifications which are simply best approximations and classifications change all the time. Even evolutionist don't say humans evolved from apes.
@dayweed85a [[we used to have a tail]] you are citing outdated information. The tailbone has already been shown to be a natural end in our spinal development and not a vestigial structure.
@dayweed85a Fatty tumor not tail.D.J. Donovan and R.C. Pedersen, “Human Tail with Noncontiguous Intraspinal ... Case Report and Embryologic Discussion,” Pediatric Neurosurgery
@MayonR look, about APA. its obvious that things said there are the results of research. some are inconclusive. theres no proof for heterosexuality. nobody knows what makes you straight.
@MayonR so for now we dont know what makes us gay, straight or bi. why do we want to know what makes us gay but not what makes us straight? would make sense to me.
@dayweed85a Humans have the capacity to make judgment calls. I have heard more than one homosexual recognize they are living in sin. Not everyone responds to their conscience.
@MayonR brainwashing people by calling it sin isnt helping. you cannot convert gay to straight. its also mentioned on APA site. i dont believe in sin. i live by this: (cont)
@dayweed85a [[brainwashing people by calling it sin]] Hugging them to hell is extremely selfish and hateful.[[you cannot convert gay to straight. ]] Yet people do.
@MayonR no they cant convert it. youre just stuffing them back to the closet. it causes them nothing but pain. i know, i met people who wanted to be converted. it couldnt be done.
@dayweed85a [[no they cant convert it]] They must, they won't be admitted.[[causes them nothing but pain.]] What are they spoiled little babies? Meet people who have done it, they exist.
@MayonR you dont know those people. they kill themselves inside for religion. its wrong. you havent answered about straight gene. no proof, right? god? no proof, right?
@dayweed85a Borde Guth Vilenkin Theorem is mainstream. Archaeology and history are mainstream. Even much of the Jesus account is widely agreed on by secular scholars.
@dayweed85a [[. he just didnt have super powers,]] History does no say that at all. Compared to all competing theories the Resurrection stands as the most likely historically standing.
@MayonR let me guess, there theories are made by religious "scientists", right? that doesnt count you know. nobody can come back from the dead. come on man.. its fiction.. i dont understand you. just admit you dont know. why are you all so proud, that you cant say those 3 words?
@MayonR there is no evidence of god. or gods. or no gods for that matter. i know its hard for you people, but at some point you need to say 3 words: I dont know.
@dayweed85a [[there is no evidence of god]] I believe it was Vilenkin read the implications for God at Stephen Hawkings b-day party from both's research. He did not smile.
@MayonR god is a code for cause. thats all. its more philosophy than science. when you get to god, you can ask what created god. nobody knows that, so its irrelevant now.
@dayweed85a [[god is a code for cause.]] The only cause that qualifies is a maximal, personal God. If you ask what created God you are breaking occams razer.
@dayweed85a [[man created god. yeah, thats it.]] The Bible is always presented as a revelation and is never presented as a myth. myth is derived of traditional folklore and built on prior versions. No prior versions just historical accounts.
@MayonR its getting late here. anyway, you mentioned Occam's razor. bible breaks it. the simplest thing, with good evidence is that there isnt anything after death. nothing. its hard to accept it for religious people, but that doesnt make it less true. when you die, its over. we think were really important, but were not. were just animals, that are smart enough to think about stuff. our imagination is excellent. but were only animals and we die like them. simple, yet complex to grasp.
@dayweed85a Occams razer is not a matter of the simplest explanation but about not compounding explanations. And the Bible doesn't break it because it rests on that the claims it gives are true, some of which I have mentioned, not having to prove afterlife to you. It would be too late then.
@MayonR yeah i forgot. bible isnt the evidence. its a book of stories that were supposed to help people have a nice life...2000 years ago. that book is obsolete now.
@dayweed85a when you look at a building how do you know a builder exists? BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS THERE RIGHT?? When you look at a painting how do you know a painter exists? BECAUSE THE PAINTING IS THERE RIGHT?? So when you look at creation how do you know a creator exists?? BECAUSE THE CREATION RIGHT?? I just proved that there has to be a Creator of this universe and that is GOD THE KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS
@IMAGODCHASER1 how do i know the painting exists? i saw the painter. i saw the builder. come on.. you need better arguments. god created the universe? who created god then? we dont know how the universe came to be. to presume that someone made it is insane. why cant you just say that you dont know?
@dayweed85a really you say that person that built your house the person that built the washington monument, or the white house, or the store that you get your groceries at you seen all of them? that's interesting you must be really old because my house is 100 yrs old or so i never seen the builders how do i know they exist because i see and live in the house
@IMAGODCHASER1 you missed my point. i dont need to see every builder to know that they can build. are you suggesting those 2 just appeared from nothing?
@IMAGODCHASER1 look i see your point, i just have a bad headache and my tolerance is at max. you want something to believe in. thats fine. i believe we dont know everything and some day we will. thats all. i dont need to have quick answer in a form of a god. gods are fun to study, especially the greek gods, but i dont like this god. its boring and judgemental. and the church.. damn, church is just evil.
@dayweed85a i dont know what church you went in but my church be poppin' lol seriously you can feel that God is there, the music is great the pastor is down to earth, real as all, people everywhere are judgemental no where does it say that everyone in church the actual building will go to heaven shoot some of those people in there are hipocrites some people in every church will not be raptured/the comin of the Lord to get all those who believe..
@IMAGODCHASER1 i just think that church (as an institution) should start sharing all that wealth. dont bee fooled, theres no faith in the church anymore, its all money and politics. thats why i want people to use their brains. have faith, knock yourself out with it, but let it be your personal thing. also, youll never get friends if you keep saying that this and that person is going to hell. its really annoying listening to that.
@dayweed85a I was just healed two weeks ago from extreme pain in my knee for 9 years! I had surgery and that didnt do nothing but I claimed Gods word over my knee and I was made whole again dude no inflammation, edema, no pain and 9 years i couldnt do much but now i can again....you can say the same thing about rich some churches do do that but not all see we are not giving to the church we are giving to God not because he is broke and needs some money but because he wants to see if we trust
@IMAGODCHASER1 doctors are amazing arent they? heck, we dont need them, we have god.. you lost me on that god and money story. i dont know where 1 sentence ends and another begins.
@dayweed85a no doctor healed me i was in my room alone reading a book about others being healed and i started to claim Isaiah 53:5 "..and by his stripes i am healed." instantly i bent my knee no pain or anything and i had surgery 9 yrs again not after that took the pain away..
@dayweed85a him enough to be like God I need this or that I know a woman that gave faithfully and one day God intervened and when she went to pay her student loans he balance was $0 why because she trusted God and he blessed her
@dayweed85a the bible talks about hell 23 times 15 times Jesus mentioned it and 162 times it gives a description of what hell is like Im sorry I for one dont like to repeat myself BUT i will if i see a need for repetition
@IMAGODCHASER1 why would you repeat yourself? it only makes me talk to you less, since its annoying. youre not saving me with it. youre just annoying me.
@dayweed85a have you ever been in love true love were you say i love u a million times a day thats y God repeats hiself that many times because he loves us THAT much..he gave his only son man idk about you but i wouldnt let my son die for nobody but he did because he didnt want us to be in hell shoot hell was never even made for people it was made for satan and all the demons be we as humans choose how to live our life and at the end there is only two places we will end up i pray your heart be
@dayweed85a I havent taken a medication other than for pain in my entire life nor do i need too...and i have no need for pain medications now that God my Creator along with yours healed me :)
@dayweed85a burdened until you accept him as your personal Savior like that man in the court room..he's been waiting and he will keep on waiting because he loves you so mcuh
@IMAGODCHASER1 my heart will be burdened? are you kidding me? i dont need god. i have friends, family. it is not my savior. it is a fictional character. i can repeat myself just as you can.
@IMAGODCHASER1 there are sooo many hungry, homeless people in the world, yet chuch just keeps piling up wealth. its disgusting. but you still go to church and give them money. thats naive. think for yourself. if you dont know something, dont be affraid to say it. its perfectly natural that you dont.
@dayweed85a you right some churches do that but my church goes out to the neighborhoods and mows their lawns picks up garbage leaves, we have a food pantry, we have mission trips and feed those less fortunate, not all churches are the same some people know Gods word but dont heed it others like my pastor has taught us not only talk that talk but also walk that walk:)
@IMAGODCHASER1 as i said i was saying about the institution. the core of it is corrupted. but anyway, i havent seen the inside of the church for 12 years. i have my own methods od dealing with things. i never pray (not even on funerals), i rather take the time and reflect. using other peoples words is so impersonal. if that makes me a bad person i dont really care.
@dayweed85a ok who cares about the core there are plenty of "Christians" who will not make it to heaven care about yourself enough to say man maybe there is an afterlife and maybe there is a heaven and hell and maybe there is that possibilty that i could be wrong see if im wrong and we just die and stay in the ground or whatever what did i lose i still had fun i still lived life to the fullest learned laughed loved i would lose nothing but if your wrong 162 descriptions is enough for me think
@IMAGODCHASER1 1. bible is boring except for the adam and eve story. was funny.
2. hell is a scare tactic to control the weak and preventing them to use their brains
3. the church only cares about money
4. theres no proof of god
5. im gay, been born gay and that cant be changed. im still a good person and i dont need anyone to judge based on me being and atheist or gay. got it?
@dayweed85a if you read what i wrote earlier you would see that I was also gay and when i came to GOd he just delivered me I didnt have to ask Oh God please no since i was 4 i had sexual feeling toward girls shoot i was in a relationship for 2 1/2 and i just broke up with a month ago because he changed me.. homosexuality is a spirit along with pain, anger, murder and so on..the bible says no one is good but God
@IMAGODCHASER1 are you saying that homosexuality and murder are the same? sorry. were done. i dont talk to insane people. my, um, god told me its a sin.
@dayweed85a the bible the WORD OF GOD says all sin is equal not murders are worse than liars a liar will end up in hell along with that murderer if he dont get right with God
@dayweed85a fire is down there it will be hot burning hot idk it youve ever been burned but im talking about 100xs that 1000xs warm if only for the unbelievers sake dont say you were never given the oportunity
@dayweed85a in the bible it says that the rich man was begging for just one drop of water and he didnt get it sweetheart..you joke but God forgive you for you know not what you say and how can a person party if they are burning your humor is not at all funny God bless you and have a great day
@IMAGODCHASER1 so youre not coming to the party? shame. we gonna have wicked bands there. throwing lava balls around. its gonna be awesome. shame you dont wanna come.. ah well.
@dayweed85a [[u can supress actions, but not the feelings.]] What kind of Christian acts on every or just any thought and feeling they experience? We govern our thoughts.
@MayonR not on everything. just the things that matter. you know, love. you dont choose who you love and you dont get to tell them its wrong. by thinking that you make yourself be above others. let me tell you, youre not. by repressing a vital part of you makes you a weak person. a person that doesnt know how to deal with himself or the world around him. so you lock yourself in a safe and accepted place in our society. basically that makes you a coward.
@dayweed85a All I can do is plead for them to make the change since it is tantamount to their eternal existence. It's all about sacrificing to achieve a victory after it all.
@MayonR (cont) dont do to others what you dont want done to you. ive been raised to have a strong sense in morality. religion is too narrow to understand.
@MayonR yes he can. but why would he want to deny himself his nature? thats torture and it suggests you think its a mental illness, which it isnt. so now what?
@dayweed85a [[you think its a mental illness]] I never distinguished it using any psychological standards but by the same moral standard I am subject to. I am no better than you in value.
@MayonR i ment by not supressing impulses. supresing those kind of impulses is bad for a persons mental health. it causes all kinds of disorders, even death by suicide.
@dayweed85a I won't even try to suggest this is easy to overcome. An invite to church might be futile but this requires tremendous support and telling 1 about Jesus and running is not enuf
@MayonR And this does require specialized support from people who specifically are knowledgeable in the area. It requires tremendous love and sensitivity.
@dayweed85a A true friend will tell you the truth even if it is uncomfortable. A selfish friend will tell you what you want to hear(poor Britney and Whitney).
Notice what Piers said at the very beginning of the video. He calls homosexuality a "MORAL" issue. And that's what I think people are forgetting. What people do behind closed doors is their business. It doesn't need to be flaunted. If you want to participate in homosexual behavior, that's your right. But we do not have the right to expect people to tolerate or even accept that lifestyle. Again, homosexuality is a moral issue not a civil one.
October31st1517 12 minutes ago
Why is he so hating? Joel Osteen speaks softly then gets attacked. The Bible says homosexuality is a sin, so what else do you want him to say?
uberrawesomee 2 hours ago 2
@uberrawesomee Thank you. I mean, What is Piers talking about? Joel isn't a judge, he is a messenger. God said that homosexuality is a sin, Joel is just passing on the message. sheesh
lns1988 1 hour ago
1. God said that homosexuality was sin. If one has a problem with what God said ..take it up with God.
2. What kind of capricous God would make someone homosexual and then call homosexuality an abomination? by the way that word " abomination" in hebrew literally means it makes God sick to His stomach.
God did not leave us Helpless. Call out to be delivered from your sin...whatever it may be..and He will !
shirah12345 4 hours ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Joel Olsteen can "support" anything! I mean how long till I hear this dweeb say. in response to a "gotcha question" from some talking head, "Aw shucks, I like Satan, he was just misunderstood and we as Christians have to make room for Lucifer in our hearts. After all we cannot be seen as bigots against the Prince of Darkness".
romanmel1 8 hours ago
The question you need to ask the homosexuals is why are they gay. God gave them the attributes to mate with the opposite sex yet they are attracted to the same sex. Why is that? This question needs to be answered in a Freudian perspective which tells us that all our preferences and choices are influenced by past experiences. Then we can judge this experience from an ethical point of view and chose if we want to accept it or reject it. That's it.
TheBuddhasign 20 hours ago
@TheBuddhasign nobody knows a 100% why gay people are gay. BUT it is certain that people are born gay. why do some people come out late? ask society. theyre all sooo friendy when it comes to different people.
dayweed85a 7 hours ago
Carl Sagan: How much more satisfying had we been placed in a garden custom-made for us, its other occupants put there for us to use as we saw fit. There is a celebrated story in the Western tradition like this, except that not quite everything was there for us. There was one particular tree of which we were not to partake, a tree of knowledge. Knowledge and understanding and wisdom were forbidden to us in this story
currie1967 23 hours ago
@currie1967 LOL so now you decide to try and seem collected without being immature about it. I appreciate your imposition of using Carl Sagan on me; however, the evidence doesn't oust the possibility of the existence of God and it never will. Evidence is just that: evidence. Evidence is not proof and does not fully disregard the possibility of God whatsoever. The possibility of His existence will always exist--that is the truth that science can try to deny but will never achieve to refute.
hiphoppacmotion 13 hours ago
Homosexuality is a choice every bit as much as masturbation is a choice. I am a christian but I continue to sin the same sin again and again. Those who engage in homosexual activities can be saved and be in paradise just as I can, even if they engage in homosexual activities again and again. If you do not believe that, then why do you keep masturbating? Why do you keep being prideful? We are all sinners. We just all choose to sin and give into different temptations.
ricodorean21 1 day ago
@ricodorean21 you know nothing. you confuse sexuality and actions. sexuality isnt a choice, acting on it is. since i dont believe in sin i dont really care.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a Well, I feel attraction towards men.. But I know that if I do it once, I might end up liking it so I won't do it. I don't want to get caught up in a new sin. You can argue if you like that maybe I am a closet homosexual. Feel free to. I guess I will go to my grave unaware that I should have been with men.. SO silly.... I choose not to be with men. Sex is sex... I'm allowed to be with women, so that is why I stick to that.
ricodorean21 1 day ago
@ricodorean21 well you just admited to being gay or bi (if you feel attraction to both sexes). i dont really have to say anything about it. not acting on your attraction towards men doesnt make straight. well if you choose not to, thats your problem. youll never know what happiness it then or true love. you can love a friend, but youre not in love with her/him.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a wanted to say "not acting on your attraction towards men doesnt make YOU straight"
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a I know true happiness and love. I have children who are my world, a God who loves me, and a wife who does the same. Look, true love isn't testicles smacking against my testicles. LOVE is so much more than that. You're silly.
ricodorean21 1 day ago
@ricodorean21 no, youre silly. you think im talking about sex. im not. BUT, sex is also a part of a healthy relationship. i was talking about love. seeing your loved one, lighting up. when you always want to be near him/her. also if you knew something about gay sex, you would know that testicles dont smack testicles. just saying.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@ricodorean21 also its cool that youre happy. all im trying to achieve is, for young people to realize their sexuality, before they get married. its a proven fact that married men have a lot of gay sex. thats not healthy for anyone. im all for commitment. thats why i dont want religion telling me whats right and whats wrong. it only causes harm.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a Well, if I just admitted to being gay or bi, then how do I CHOOSE not to be with men. I guess I can CHOOSE to be with women huh... Cause I know it is wrong. Some people like having sex with kids too. They have felt that way since they were kids themselves. I guess they have always known they were going to be a pedophile. Is that ok too? Its a choice as well. They have to control themselves as well. Sorry..
ricodorean21 1 day ago
@ricodorean21 ill write slowly so you understand:
1. you can choose not to be with someone, but you cannot choose not to be attracted to them. actions=/=sexuality
2. pedos are different. kids cant consent to sex, which makes it abuse. sex with 2 consenting adults is ok (it can also be an orgy for that matter, but im not into that), as long at they are the right age.
do you understand how silly your comment makes you?
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@ricodorean21 and like i said, homosexuality isnt wrong. just because some ancient book says it, it doesnt make it true. love is a beautiful thing and that book is trying to deny it to people. thats wrong.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a Im not saying you shouldn't love. Geeze, now you are becoming dumb. Love is wonderful. But why do you insist that man on man intercourse is a "beautiful thing"??? Sex isn't love. Sex is a way of showing love. Being attracted to someone isn't my issue. Blowing them, beautiful anal sex with them. Those are the things which are the issues. How many women think that Mila Kunis is pretty? That doesnt mean they want to go dwn on her or will. Love.. you have the word all wrong.
ricodorean21 1 day ago
Comment removed
dayweed85a 1 day ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@ricodorean21 why do you insist on telling me how i should live my life? sex is a way of showing love yes. i dont like to show my love to a vagina.. seriously.. do you even know how attraction works? i guess not, since the book hasnt showed it to you.
you have it all wrong. again you dont understand the difference with being pretty and being attractive. shes pretty but not attractive to me. and then you tell me im becoming dumb.. you have a mirror? say that and point.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@ricodorean21 why do you insist on telling me how i should live my life? sex is a way of showing love yes. i dont like to show my love to a vagina.. seriously.. do you even know how attraction works? i guess not, since the book hasnt showed it to you.
you have it all wrong. again you dont understand the difference with being pretty and being attractive. shes pretty but not attractive to me. and then you tell me im becoming dumb.. you have a mirror? say that and point.
dayweed85a 23 hours ago
sorry pierce but i do think that it is that simple where people get up and say let society tell us that being gay is okay then someone will allow themselves to believe that they are fine in Gods eyes when the bible clearly says that homosexuality is an abomination sorry pierce the only way that a person can get right in Gods eyes is by receiving Christ as their savior
jdogg858 1 day ago
@jdogg858 i think you should speak for yourself.. not all share your beliefs.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a sorry its my job to share what i believe Luke writes in the Acts of the apostles chapter 4 peter says "we cannot stop sharing what we have seen nor what we have heard" so yea but the reality of it is that when i sure my beliefs i dont do it out of anger or bigotry but out of the love of Jesus Christ
jdogg858 1 day ago
@jdogg858 such a nice way to mask hate with love.. when you say that someone is an abomination it makes you a jerk. keep that name calling for yourself.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a see that's how i know that you are not paying attention to what im saying i that the things the person is doing is an abomination not the person themselves. Just like Jesus I dont hate the sinner i hate sin itself and im sorry you feel that im judging you i just want you to realize that God made man and woman to be with each other not man and man or woman with woman
jdogg858 1 day ago
@jdogg858 yeah yeah.. keep hating on people.. if you hate fundemental things on people, that means you hate people. period. it only shows that you know nothing about human nature.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a wrong...... human nature is to be sinful and not just with homosexuality but the bible clearly speaks of other sins that man is guilty of that's why we have to seek out Jesus and give him our soul that we can be justified in Gods eyes (Romans 5:1)
jdogg858 17 hours ago
@jdogg858 who cares what the bible says? we have higher standards than the bible. bible is a guideline for people 2k years ago, not for the year 1950 or 1988 and certainly not 2012. bible is ignorant about human nature and our society. get with the times.. we know a lot more now that we did before. you can say whatever you want but calling people or thier actions an abomination makes you a hypocrite and a dumbass.
dayweed85a 11 hours ago
@dayweed85a nothing in this world is of higher standard than the written living word of God. this is not a book of men it is the inspired scripture that you cant understand because you don't want to understand but i tell you now the bible says clearly that there are 2 paths you can walk: righteousness and truth or condemnation and death. and the very fact that you would use derogatory words towards me shows how unwilling to understand the scriptures you are
jdogg858 3 hours ago
@jdogg858 sure mister. my point is, religion killed more people than every war on this planet. yeah nice standards. lol you really are blind are you? XD
dayweed85a 3 hours ago
@dayweed85a exactly.. RELIGION...not relationship with God. They used God to support their evil agenda. Its not religion its money that caused wars.
GuitariousMaximus 12 minutes ago
@dayweed85a so i will leave you with this thought 1 Corinthians 1: 18-19 "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
jdogg858 3 hours ago
@jdogg858 yep, proves you know nothing :) cya
dayweed85a 3 hours ago
@dayweed85a well i do know that Christ is soon to return for his followers and all those who have died for more than 2,000 years for him will be resurrected and be in paradise with Christ forever and if you dont make the choice to receive Jesus as your personal savior you will remember in that moment what i have tried to explain to you. Jesus is willing to save you and he loves you more than you will ever know JOHN 3:16
jdogg858 2 hours ago
@jdogg858 say hi for me when he does lmao
dayweed85a 2 hours ago
you need to cut back on the mousse there joel
IDV84 2 days ago
Its almost as if osteen is backing away from his duties and responsibility of being a preacher of the Word of Jesus Christ. He's playing hopscotch with the Word of God!
melispena 2 days ago
Heaven will be your home say this prayer like youve never said anthing in your life. Jesus I know you are the son of God, I know that you were born, died, and rose again on the 3rd day forgive me of all of my sins, transform my life for your Glory, NOW I AM SAVED AMEN God bless whoever said that pray no go find a God believing, bible reading Church that they not only talk the talk but walk that walk.. God bless you guys. :)
IMAGODCHASER1 2 days ago
turn from their wicked ways I pray that you accept Christ and let him work in your life like he did mine..if you want to receive salvation and God forbide you die even tonight be assured that
IMAGODCHASER1 2 days ago
sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted.
1 Timothy 8:11
See we are all sinners but we can be forgiven Christians still sin daily but the differance between the unsaved and the saved is that all the saved have to do is repent and they are on their way to heaven but the unsaved aren't going unless they repent and
IMAGODCHASER1 2 days ago
No one that is unrepentive and did not receive him as their personal Lord and savior can Inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.
Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the
IMAGODCHASER1 2 days ago
Now folks thats the God I serve and I pray that whoever reads this will be touched to the point of repentance and know that God is willing and waiting he can change those thoughts your lifestyle I am living proof of God's might works. The bible says:
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders.
1 Corinthians 6:9
IMAGODCHASER1 2 days ago
extreme pain in my knees day and night no stop it was hard to get out of bed go up and down stairs even sleep at times so one day as I was reading I started to proclaim Isaiah 53:5 "...and by his stripes I am healed" and thanking God for my healing out the pain left for two weeks no pain I have never even went a day without pain till that day no I can run and jump and play sports like I use to. So not only did God heal me he delivered me from the spirit of homosexuality and addiction.
IMAGODCHASER1 2 days ago
I have no desire for cigerettes, weed, liquor, fornications, but since Im a baby in a sense were I just rededicated my life to God I still have thoughts come to my mind but since I know that's the devil I say, "In the name of Jesus let go of my thoughts, I have the mind of Christ." BAM gone. See when you rebuke the devil and your a child of the living KING he aint got no choice but to go back where he came from. Also two weeks ago I was HEALED, I had surgery on my knee in 7th grade and I had
IMAGODCHASER1 2 days ago
we did financial planning the whole shabang. About a month and a half ago I started feeling like what am I doing. I felt empty all the sex, drugs, liquor, a great relationship, money, great grades in school NOTHING made me satisfied I felt an empty and I knew I needed to find God again. So I attended the churcht that I went to when I was 11-15 years old and a week later a month ago yesterday I gave me life back to God.
IMAGODCHASER1 2 days ago
I had gf left and right I was playing girls I mean dudes would ask me how I would get all theses girls and they send me pics and I would show my boys and they was like dang shorty sexy and we would talk and whatever so one day about 2 1/2 years ago I met this girl and we click I mean like man we would talk for hours and hours and I proposed we even lived together for a while and we planned out our entire life together, name of our children, wrote out business plans,
IMAGODCHASER1 2 days ago
When I was 4 years old I had my first sexual experience with a girl and I felt so good it was like it was meant to be for years I battled my feeling because I did not know if it was right or wrong or anything. Mind you I was raised in a Christian household so Id hear one thing in church and feel this other way so for years I kept shut till I "came out" in high school and it felt right I had friends I was liked we would talk about our sexual experiences and so on and so forth.
IMAGODCHASER1 2 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
All sex outside the confines for marriage as God ordained it ie one man and one woman is sin period. Whether is be heterosexual or homosexual. We all have our cross the bare. (Matthew 16:24) Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me
gweems828 2 days ago
Comment removed
dayweed85a 2 days ago
Joel is not a preacher... He's a camera man ! Piers knows more about whats sin than ''Bro. Joel''
justonevoice1 2 days ago
We all sin. Nobody is perfect so who cares. Whether you are gay or not you are a sinner so live with it Homosexuals!!! For those of you who spend time judging each other you are the ones who are probably bound to hell. The Truth is in Jesus and the Fool is in man and Man is foolish. We are all born as filthy rags only those who accept Jesus will be cleansed by the blood. Well, for the rest of you, you still are filthy rags. Thats why you talk dirty!
LadyTonya1986 2 days ago
cnn is a bonch of sycos and God is the only one who can change people
tmacsurdaddy 3 days ago
@tmacsurdaddy some things cannot be changed.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
A big wimp out, but did a good job in the process.
ichthusMe 3 days ago
interpretation? Something being called an abomination is pretty clear. Define abomination.
IsHeDied 3 days ago
I John 4:1 "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."
Rox4sy 3 days ago
YES!!! BOOM!
michaelbentley93 3 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
For all those who think that homosexuality is a mental illness or a choice, google "apa homosexuality" and be amazed at your stupidity. If you CHOOSE to reject the reserch of professionals all your other opinions become invalid since they arent the product of your research, but the product of your bigotry.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
For all those who think that homosexuality is a mental illness or a choice, google "apa homosexuality" and be amazed at your stupidity. If you CHOOSE to reject the reserch of professionals all your other opinions become invalid since they arent the product of your research, but the product of your bigotry.
dayweed85a 4 days ago
@dayweed85a libberal dribble, blah blah blah-- everyone knows man has will.--
to do what is natural or choose to be a freak,
i think its time for homosexuals to grow up.
im tired of them telling the world about their sex life.
999Thip 3 days ago
@999Thip homosexuality is natural. i urge you to educate yourself.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a homosexuality is un-natural..
why pervert what god has made good.
god has made male and female,
hmmmm, male and female
MALE AND FEMALE
MALE AND FEMALE
MALE AND FEMALE
MALE AND FEMALE
999Thip 3 days ago
@999Thip did check out the link i gave you? no? shut up then. do educate yourself. saying EARTH IS FLAT 1000x wont make it true.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a hmmmmm i wonder if the people who put that site up are pro homosexuals.
hmmm , i wonder..
stop the kool-aid pal,
time to grow up..
999Thip 3 days ago
@999Thip so you think you know better than psychiatrists who made studies and did the research? how retarded are you?
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a yes i do, even a child can tell you that there is male and female..
in the beginning god created male and female ,
male can mate with female and produce offspring..
grow up pal
999Thip 3 days ago
@999Thip when was the beggining? how old is the earth? is earth flat? were there dinosaurs? answer. you holy book says otherwise.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@dayweed85a [[when was the beggining? how old is the earth? is earth flat? were there dinosaurs? answer. you holy book says otherwise.]] Please cite the verse that gives an age. Isaiah 40:22 says its round not flat. Most of history didn't believe in flat earth contrary to popular belief. Anyone who has gone to sea knows this. Job describes large animals that can't exist today as well as Psalms and more.
MayonR 3 days ago
@dayweed85a you speak as if you know the bible,
999Thip 3 days ago
@dayweed85a So far you haven't shown it's natural. You appealed to the APA which is dealing with prescriptive knowledge as opposed to descriptive.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR hmm you refuse to believe that its natural even though it occurs in nature, you refuse to believe its not a choice eventhough its said its not (and i can speak from personal exp).
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a It has been shown that it doesn't happen in nature. This behavior in dogs is a display of dominance. The behavior in rhesus monkeys was societal acceptance and not sexual. This behavior in nature is not a homosexual motivation or inclination. Of course homosexuality is not natural.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR it has been shown that it does. many times actually. gay animals even made nests together. even if you dont believe it, humans are animals, part of nature. so its natural.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a [[gay animals even made nests together. ]] Ok, Reasoning we are animals therefore it is natural for a human to act as such. Then we should start eating other peoples young and rape women to further our genes. Animals are distinct from humans. An animal never murders but does engage in instinctual killing. you need to test your logic for consistency.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR humans=mammals, rats=mammals, dolphins=mammals. humans evolved from apes. im guessing you dont know anything about that.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a Grouped by classifications which are simply best approximations and classifications change all the time. Even evolutionist don't say humans evolved from apes.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR wait are you gonna say we dont have proof of evolution on our bodies? we used to have a tail. you really should study more at school.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a [[we used to have a tail]] you are citing outdated information. The tailbone has already been shown to be a natural end in our spinal development and not a vestigial structure.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR then why are some people still born with a tail? come on...
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a Fatty tumor not tail.D.J. Donovan and R.C. Pedersen, “Human Tail with Noncontiguous Intraspinal ... Case Report and Embryologic Discussion,” Pediatric Neurosurgery
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR look, about APA. its obvious that things said there are the results of research. some are inconclusive. theres no proof for heterosexuality. nobody knows what makes you straight.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a using good unbiased judgement I can say your comment on APA is fair.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR so for now we dont know what makes us gay, straight or bi. why do we want to know what makes us gay but not what makes us straight? would make sense to me.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a Humans have the capacity to make judgment calls. I have heard more than one homosexual recognize they are living in sin. Not everyone responds to their conscience.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR brainwashing people by calling it sin isnt helping. you cannot convert gay to straight. its also mentioned on APA site. i dont believe in sin. i live by this: (cont)
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a [[brainwashing people by calling it sin]] Hugging them to hell is extremely selfish and hateful.[[you cannot convert gay to straight. ]] Yet people do.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR no they cant convert it. youre just stuffing them back to the closet. it causes them nothing but pain. i know, i met people who wanted to be converted. it couldnt be done.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a [[no they cant convert it]] They must, they won't be admitted.[[causes them nothing but pain.]] What are they spoiled little babies? Meet people who have done it, they exist.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR you dont know those people. they kill themselves inside for religion. its wrong. you havent answered about straight gene. no proof, right? god? no proof, right?
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a [[you havent answered about straight gene. ]] argument from incredulity fallacy.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR you know what? you have no proof of god, same as i dont have proof it isnt there. why does that make you more right than me?
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a There is cumulative evidence from the existence of God to the resurrection of Jesus makes it an impossibility to the contrary.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR oh really? who put that evidence together? i bet someone really really religious.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a Borde Guth Vilenkin Theorem is mainstream. Archaeology and history are mainstream. Even much of the Jesus account is widely agreed on by secular scholars.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR you mean existance of jesus? sure, nobody said he didnt exist. he just didnt have super powers, thats all.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@dayweed85a [[. he just didnt have super powers,]] History does no say that at all. Compared to all competing theories the Resurrection stands as the most likely historically standing.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR let me guess, there theories are made by religious "scientists", right? that doesnt count you know. nobody can come back from the dead. come on man.. its fiction.. i dont understand you. just admit you dont know. why are you all so proud, that you cant say those 3 words?
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@MayonR there is no evidence of god. or gods. or no gods for that matter. i know its hard for you people, but at some point you need to say 3 words: I dont know.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a [[there is no evidence of god]] I believe it was Vilenkin read the implications for God at Stephen Hawkings b-day party from both's research. He did not smile.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR god is a code for cause. thats all. its more philosophy than science. when you get to god, you can ask what created god. nobody knows that, so its irrelevant now.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a [[god is a code for cause.]] The only cause that qualifies is a maximal, personal God. If you ask what created God you are breaking occams razer.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR not really.theres no evidence that god exists. actually you know what makes the most sense? man created god. yeah, thats it.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a [[man created god. yeah, thats it.]] The Bible is always presented as a revelation and is never presented as a myth. myth is derived of traditional folklore and built on prior versions. No prior versions just historical accounts.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR its getting late here. anyway, you mentioned Occam's razor. bible breaks it. the simplest thing, with good evidence is that there isnt anything after death. nothing. its hard to accept it for religious people, but that doesnt make it less true. when you die, its over. we think were really important, but were not. were just animals, that are smart enough to think about stuff. our imagination is excellent. but were only animals and we die like them. simple, yet complex to grasp.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a Occams razer is not a matter of the simplest explanation but about not compounding explanations. And the Bible doesn't break it because it rests on that the claims it gives are true, some of which I have mentioned, not having to prove afterlife to you. It would be too late then.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR human=animal-->no heavens/hell for animals=no heavens/hell for humans. really simple. accept that this life is all you get.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@MayonR yeah i forgot. bible isnt the evidence. its a book of stories that were supposed to help people have a nice life...2000 years ago. that book is obsolete now.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a when you look at a building how do you know a builder exists? BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS THERE RIGHT?? When you look at a painting how do you know a painter exists? BECAUSE THE PAINTING IS THERE RIGHT?? So when you look at creation how do you know a creator exists?? BECAUSE THE CREATION RIGHT?? I just proved that there has to be a Creator of this universe and that is GOD THE KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS
IMAGODCHASER1 1 day ago
@IMAGODCHASER1 how do i know the painting exists? i saw the painter. i saw the builder. come on.. you need better arguments. god created the universe? who created god then? we dont know how the universe came to be. to presume that someone made it is insane. why cant you just say that you dont know?
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a really you say that person that built your house the person that built the washington monument, or the white house, or the store that you get your groceries at you seen all of them? that's interesting you must be really old because my house is 100 yrs old or so i never seen the builders how do i know they exist because i see and live in the house
IMAGODCHASER1 1 day ago
@IMAGODCHASER1 you missed my point. i dont need to see every builder to know that they can build. are you suggesting those 2 just appeared from nothing?
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@IMAGODCHASER1 look i see your point, i just have a bad headache and my tolerance is at max. you want something to believe in. thats fine. i believe we dont know everything and some day we will. thats all. i dont need to have quick answer in a form of a god. gods are fun to study, especially the greek gods, but i dont like this god. its boring and judgemental. and the church.. damn, church is just evil.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a i dont know what church you went in but my church be poppin' lol seriously you can feel that God is there, the music is great the pastor is down to earth, real as all, people everywhere are judgemental no where does it say that everyone in church the actual building will go to heaven shoot some of those people in there are hipocrites some people in every church will not be raptured/the comin of the Lord to get all those who believe..
IMAGODCHASER1 1 day ago
@IMAGODCHASER1 i just think that church (as an institution) should start sharing all that wealth. dont bee fooled, theres no faith in the church anymore, its all money and politics. thats why i want people to use their brains. have faith, knock yourself out with it, but let it be your personal thing. also, youll never get friends if you keep saying that this and that person is going to hell. its really annoying listening to that.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a I was just healed two weeks ago from extreme pain in my knee for 9 years! I had surgery and that didnt do nothing but I claimed Gods word over my knee and I was made whole again dude no inflammation, edema, no pain and 9 years i couldnt do much but now i can again....you can say the same thing about rich some churches do do that but not all see we are not giving to the church we are giving to God not because he is broke and needs some money but because he wants to see if we trust
IMAGODCHASER1 1 day ago
@IMAGODCHASER1 doctors are amazing arent they? heck, we dont need them, we have god.. you lost me on that god and money story. i dont know where 1 sentence ends and another begins.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a no doctor healed me i was in my room alone reading a book about others being healed and i started to claim Isaiah 53:5 "..and by his stripes i am healed." instantly i bent my knee no pain or anything and i had surgery 9 yrs again not after that took the pain away..
IMAGODCHASER1 1 day ago
@dayweed85a him enough to be like God I need this or that I know a woman that gave faithfully and one day God intervened and when she went to pay her student loans he balance was $0 why because she trusted God and he blessed her
IMAGODCHASER1 1 day ago
@dayweed85a the bible talks about hell 23 times 15 times Jesus mentioned it and 162 times it gives a description of what hell is like Im sorry I for one dont like to repeat myself BUT i will if i see a need for repetition
IMAGODCHASER1 1 day ago
@IMAGODCHASER1 why would you repeat yourself? it only makes me talk to you less, since its annoying. youre not saving me with it. youre just annoying me.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a have you ever been in love true love were you say i love u a million times a day thats y God repeats hiself that many times because he loves us THAT much..he gave his only son man idk about you but i wouldnt let my son die for nobody but he did because he didnt want us to be in hell shoot hell was never even made for people it was made for satan and all the demons be we as humans choose how to live our life and at the end there is only two places we will end up i pray your heart be
IMAGODCHASER1 1 day ago
@IMAGODCHASER1 god doesnt repeat itself. people who wrote the bible repeat themselves so they get their point across. its psychology.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a twice in the bible at least that i know of it says that the words write are the words GOD said to write not what man desided to write..
IMAGODCHASER1 1 day ago
@IMAGODCHASER1 you remember to take your medication on a regular basis and then tell me if youre still seeing and hearing things. geez..
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a I havent taken a medication other than for pain in my entire life nor do i need too...and i have no need for pain medications now that God my Creator along with yours healed me :)
IMAGODCHASER1 1 day ago
@dayweed85a burdened until you accept him as your personal Savior like that man in the court room..he's been waiting and he will keep on waiting because he loves you so mcuh
IMAGODCHASER1 1 day ago
@IMAGODCHASER1 my heart will be burdened? are you kidding me? i dont need god. i have friends, family. it is not my savior. it is a fictional character. i can repeat myself just as you can.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a just remember those exact words when your standing in front of him on judgement day God bless and have a great night.
IMAGODCHASER1 1 day ago
@IMAGODCHASER1 there are sooo many hungry, homeless people in the world, yet chuch just keeps piling up wealth. its disgusting. but you still go to church and give them money. thats naive. think for yourself. if you dont know something, dont be affraid to say it. its perfectly natural that you dont.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a you right some churches do that but my church goes out to the neighborhoods and mows their lawns picks up garbage leaves, we have a food pantry, we have mission trips and feed those less fortunate, not all churches are the same some people know Gods word but dont heed it others like my pastor has taught us not only talk that talk but also walk that walk:)
IMAGODCHASER1 1 day ago
@IMAGODCHASER1 as i said i was saying about the institution. the core of it is corrupted. but anyway, i havent seen the inside of the church for 12 years. i have my own methods od dealing with things. i never pray (not even on funerals), i rather take the time and reflect. using other peoples words is so impersonal. if that makes me a bad person i dont really care.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a ok who cares about the core there are plenty of "Christians" who will not make it to heaven care about yourself enough to say man maybe there is an afterlife and maybe there is a heaven and hell and maybe there is that possibilty that i could be wrong see if im wrong and we just die and stay in the ground or whatever what did i lose i still had fun i still lived life to the fullest learned laughed loved i would lose nothing but if your wrong 162 descriptions is enough for me think
IMAGODCHASER1 1 day ago
@IMAGODCHASER1 1. bible is boring except for the adam and eve story. was funny.
2. hell is a scare tactic to control the weak and preventing them to use their brains
3. the church only cares about money
4. theres no proof of god
5. im gay, been born gay and that cant be changed. im still a good person and i dont need anyone to judge based on me being and atheist or gay. got it?
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a if you read what i wrote earlier you would see that I was also gay and when i came to GOd he just delivered me I didnt have to ask Oh God please no since i was 4 i had sexual feeling toward girls shoot i was in a relationship for 2 1/2 and i just broke up with a month ago because he changed me.. homosexuality is a spirit along with pain, anger, murder and so on..the bible says no one is good but God
IMAGODCHASER1 1 day ago
@IMAGODCHASER1 are you saying that homosexuality and murder are the same? sorry. were done. i dont talk to insane people. my, um, god told me its a sin.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a the bible the WORD OF GOD says all sin is equal not murders are worse than liars a liar will end up in hell along with that murderer if he dont get right with God
IMAGODCHASER1 1 day ago
@IMAGODCHASER1 at least its gonna be warm lmao
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a fire is down there it will be hot burning hot idk it youve ever been burned but im talking about 100xs that 1000xs warm if only for the unbelievers sake dont say you were never given the oportunity
IMAGODCHASER1 1 day ago
@IMAGODCHASER1 hmm i like my chicken a little crispy. im thinking they must have wild parties down there.. do they serve beer? i love beer.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@dayweed85a in the bible it says that the rich man was begging for just one drop of water and he didnt get it sweetheart..you joke but God forgive you for you know not what you say and how can a person party if they are burning your humor is not at all funny God bless you and have a great day
IMAGODCHASER1 1 day ago
@IMAGODCHASER1 so youre not coming to the party? shame. we gonna have wicked bands there. throwing lava balls around. its gonna be awesome. shame you dont wanna come.. ah well.
dayweed85a 1 day ago
@MayonR you dont decide who you love and who youre attracted to. why cant you understand it? u can supress actions, but not the feelings.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@dayweed85a [[u can supress actions, but not the feelings.]] What kind of Christian acts on every or just any thought and feeling they experience? We govern our thoughts.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR not on everything. just the things that matter. you know, love. you dont choose who you love and you dont get to tell them its wrong. by thinking that you make yourself be above others. let me tell you, youre not. by repressing a vital part of you makes you a weak person. a person that doesnt know how to deal with himself or the world around him. so you lock yourself in a safe and accepted place in our society. basically that makes you a coward.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a All I can do is plead for them to make the change since it is tantamount to their eternal existence. It's all about sacrificing to achieve a victory after it all.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR theres no proof for eternal existance. never will be. sorry, but thats that.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@MayonR (cont) dont do to others what you dont want done to you. ive been raised to have a strong sense in morality. religion is too narrow to understand.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@MayonR another question: when did you decide to be attracted to the sex youre attracted to?
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a Impulsive behavior can happen at any and all ages. A human has the capacity to intellectually balance which impulses to act on.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR yes he can. but why would he want to deny himself his nature? thats torture and it suggests you think its a mental illness, which it isnt. so now what?
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a [[you think its a mental illness]] I never distinguished it using any psychological standards but by the same moral standard I am subject to. I am no better than you in value.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR i ment by not supressing impulses. supresing those kind of impulses is bad for a persons mental health. it causes all kinds of disorders, even death by suicide.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a I won't even try to suggest this is easy to overcome. An invite to church might be futile but this requires tremendous support and telling 1 about Jesus and running is not enuf
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR And this does require specialized support from people who specifically are knowledgeable in the area. It requires tremendous love and sensitivity.
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR trying to convert someone isnt love. love is when you accept the person for who he/she is. you need empathy to understand this. thats all.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@dayweed85a A true friend will tell you the truth even if it is uncomfortable. A selfish friend will tell you what you want to hear(poor Britney and Whitney).
MayonR 3 days ago
@MayonR we dont know the truth. nobody does.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@MayonR why would i want to overcome it? its normal. it doesnt hurt anyone. that book is not the universal answer. it never was.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@MayonR classifications are based on simple things like reproduction, origins,.. humans are mammals. dont even try to deny it.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
@MayonR the fact that we are mentally superior to other animals, doesnt make us more than them.
dayweed85a 3 days ago
This has been flagged as spam show