That's why i stopped posting to this guy...he simply doesn't deal with any arguments at all in any rational fashion, just simply sits there and insults you. I have much more better things to get on with than argue with a fool.
Prov 26:4
Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Or you will also be like him.
@nextorx would you prefer i attempted to argue by relying on irrelevant theological superstitious nonsense ? what part of NO PROOF OF GOD do you not get? every question posed has been RATIONALLY responded to, yet the believers have consistently ignored the difficult questions.
@TheMany DO WE EAT OUR BABIES????? NO, so there you have it you BUFFOON, BASIC ARGUABLE MORALITY. END OF STORY END OF ARGUMENT. and surprise surprise still no response to my questions to you...EXCEEDINGLY BORED NOW bye bye
@TheMany any neutral reading this message board will see your immature stupidity , also i think you will find that it is YOU who is now failing to provide any response to the questions . you got PWNED so off you go back to churchy wurchy and have a little pray for the NON BELIEVERS maybe GOD WILL CURE YOUR HAIR LOSS, instead of saving millions of hungry or AIDS ridden children that would be kind of him: to help a baldy instead of some helpless kids eh, SEE THE LIGHT - THERE IS NO LIGHT!
@TheMany YOU are a TYPICAL apologist. THE "QUESTIONS" you refer to have been SUFFICIENTLY answered . SO why don't YOU ADMIT , that your entire point of view is based on THE EXISTENCE OF GOD & / or THE AUTHENTICITY of the BIBLE.... ah , that's right , cause that would leave you open to RIDICULE. THERE IS NOTHING THE MATTER WITH ME, I AM NOT THE ONE WHO IS SCARED OF THE DARK....BOO! check under the bed for the monsters wooohh spooky spooky , here comes GOD riding on RUDOLFS BACK ha ha.
@TheMany oh yeah and can you please address my earlier point that you have chosen to CONTINUALLY IGNORE which is that we have existed for MILLIONS OF YEARS long long before your HAPPY CLAPPY GOD NONSENSE - where was the lack of morality ensuring our SURVIVAL THEN????? oh dear .... YOU FAIL.
@herts4ever: So your morality is based on your 'interpretation' of certain influences. What happens when two people disagree in their 'interpretation'? Who has found this mysterious "Natural morality"? How do you determine who is right?
Your insults are amusing. Try harder and I might smile.
@TheMany CUT TO THE CHASE ,ADMIT THAT YOU BELIEVE IN GOD ,JESUS, THE BIBLE OR WHATEVER. SO, rather than loose THAT argument hands down on the basis of the OBVIOUS lack of ANY evidence WHATSOEVER.
YOU decide TO SELECTIVELY question my POINTS.erm you have already IGNORED the point that we have existed for MILLIONS of years. did we do this with NO MORALITY. DUH, YOU are A MORON -does that AMUSE YOU? you just ignore the awkward points cause they don't fit with the beardy man in the sky theory
@herts4ever: Nope, your still not answering my question. Whats YOUR basis for morality? You opinion? Your culture? Those are meaningless standards, constantly shifting over time.
@TheMany You are clearly a bit dim.. i have already answered the question , HUMANS have a NATURAL MORALITY, but My PERSONAL moral code is the result of my own LOGICAL & RATIONAL interpretation of both my existence and my cultural influence.WHY my PERSONAL moral stance is of any interest to you is beyond me in respect of this discussion-if thats what you can call it, I WAS ONLY making the IMPORTANT point that WE DO NOT NEED GOD OR RELIGION TO PROVIDE THIS. why don't YOU accept that???
@TheMany there are many contributing factors that may define and individuals moral code...the point i was making though is that WE DO NOT NEED the BIBLE, GOD or ANY form of RELIGION to provide this. we have existed as a species for MILLIONS of years LONG before the birth of Christianity and the printed press , DEAL WITH IT ...GOD IS A SUPERSTITION . if you like fantasy so much then stick to the lord of the rings it's a better read.
@TheMany errmmm existential experience, my parental influence ...logic & rational etc etc . The POINT i was making is that we have existed as a species for long enough to PROVE that we don't need spazzy religious doctrines to dictate our moral & ethical behavior. It is really quite obvious to any society that to kill each other etc is going to be counter productive to survival. cue a brainwashed reply...yawn.
@nextorx OH dear do you realise that Mark Driscoll is clearly a horrific example of someone afflicted by Narcissistic personality disorder ? clearly not...it is now evident that you lack the fundamental intelligence to continue this discussion on equal terms. i sincerely wish you all the best in your life and hope that you can free yourself from the spastic oppressive ideologies that are so fervently pursued by evangelical churches such as Destiny, good luck , your going to need it.
So far herts4ever, you have failed at every point to answer the questions i have put to you, which leads me to simply conclude you don't have any rational response to give at all, rather simply enjoy using the caps lock key, and re-affirming the same boring assertions in different wording, without any proof or meaningful response. You also fail to understand the most basic points im making, as evidenced by your responses...
As an aside, God pre-dates the "history of language".
@nextorx Actually you are talking nonsense , the concept of god & God's potentially could pre-date language however i don't know how you would prove such a thing...i think you have drowned yourself in your bizzarre indignant position that GOD exists in the manour described in the BIBLE etc, what about all the other faiths in the word? are they all wrong and Christianity is the only CORRECT faith lol lol lol pull the other one mr deluded, oh yeah , did you say hi to SANTA for me yet? ha ha
"we didn't evolve and exist as a species for millions of years with the need for a training manual." < Again, your pre-supposing this is true without proving it :) So many claims, so little to back them up... As i said earlier, assertion does not equal fact.
What then, if it is not a divine moral law giver, do you base your morality on?
Also, what would, in your view, constitute evidence for God?
@nextorx ah ha ha ha this is RIDICULOUS , the history of written languages pre-dates CHRISTIANITY by FOUR THOUSAND YEARS lol and we were almost certainly living long long before that, your argument is ruined , FACE IT buddy there aint no case for GOD in a rational modern existence . enjoy your SUNDAY service & don't forget to GIVE ALL YOU CAN lol olol lol i done with this now, you'll never choose to observe the truth you much prefer FANTASY, say hi to Santa Claus for me xxx
If believing in things that lack empirical evidence is daft, then why do you believe in things that lack empirical evidence? After all, don't you hold to the laws of logic and mathematics? Don't you think there is such a thing as "right" and "wrong"?
Furthermore, isn't it even the case that the principle "we shouldn't accept things without empirical evidence," is something for which empirical evidence cannot be provided?
@nextorx WELL mr endorser of "magical omnipresent man in the sky" and all other stupid "SUPERSTITIONS" ... FOR A START only a ABSOLUTE IDIOT would argue that we need RELIGION , GOD , or THE BIBLE to provide us with a MORAL CODE of ETHICS. so your are clearly MENTAL. what is potentially RIGHT or WRONG does not require ANY religious or biblical influence whatsoever. we didn't evolve and exist as a species for millions of years with the need for a training manual. ha ha YOU are losing this!
finally i think the duty of proof is on your shoulders , why should i have to prove there is not a god - after all its deluded people like you who insist there is one...so where is he then..this amazing magic man in the sky...? oh that's right , theres no empirical evedence, we just got to take your word for it eh... yeah right and drop a tenner in the collection plate as-well lol don't think so... theistic...= THEORY with NO evidence..yeah that's intelligent lol bunch of sheep.
ermmm maybe if more people were less superstitious they wouldn't feel the need to hold the concept of GOD or religion separate from other topics worthy of humour, its healthy to laugh at stupid things -GOD being one of them. there is no difference between GOD and all other superstitions - GET OVER IT ha ha theres no GOD and all the closing your eyes waving your hands in the air and crap rock music can't prove otherwise- this church is a business, preying on the vulnerable
Furthermore, I find it interesting that you find the need to "laugh at God". According to your world view, God doesn't exist, therefore why would you have the need to laugh (or tell others to laugh) at someone you say doesn't exist? Inconsistency is the sure sign of a failed argument. Be consistent to your own world view and stop borrowing from a theistic one.
You are failing to understand my point. You made the assertion for the non-existance of God, yet failed, and continue to fail to produce any proof of your assertion past your own biases and prejudices. From your replies, your simply proving the truth of my earlier post. Thank you.
I think you'll find that assertion does not equal truth. Simply saying and pre-supposing that God doesn't exist, doesn't mean He doesn't- where is your proof to back up your statement? As far as I can see, you have shown that your statement is simply mere opinion and presupposition with nothing to demonstrate its veracity. I look forward to your response.
@nextorx i really could not have put that better myself. your correct , assertion does not equal truth therfor , when preachers "assert" about gods will or message or biblical interpretation it is purly THEIR OWN opinion. there is not a believer or practitioner of ANY faith ANYWHERE in the world who can DEMONSTRATE VERACITY in their CLAIMS, HA HA HA you just emptied your own argument. there is as much proof for a GOD as there is for a talking cheese sandwich.
@nextorx also , you say to the other poster that he said that church was a cult- he said he thought it was like a cult , that's different, also anyone can post an opinion on a forum and who cares if his "pastor knows" hopefully they have seen the real "light" and rejected the absolute blind stupidity that leads to faith in any god...honestly bunch of idiots the lot of you. all scared of the dark, go and watch some doug stanhope on youtube and learn to laugh at god
Upon what basis do you make your assertion that Destiny is a cult? I assume you have examples? If you believe that Destiny is a cult, and is teaching contrary to sound doctrine in core areas (which is what makes a cult), why have you not confronted the pastor there as per instruction in matt 18? If you have no proof, you are making baseless accusations on a public forum, slandering fellow believers in clear violation on 1 Peter 2:1. I wonder if your pastor knows about this?
also isn't it funny how all these churches are registered charities....hmmmm no brainer there... nice little earner for the liars who preach about god to the gullible.
your church is just a youth club/ social group if you want to have people draw a decent wage on your charity whilst LYING about miracles etc fair enough but lets be honest here about whats going on , a bunch of liars telling lies to anyone who will listen HEY don't forget to GIVE ALL YOU CAN! disgusting
@MusicInHerHead Do you "see" GOD "move & grow" ? well i would say you are a LIAR just like your pastor, because there is no GOD and you are deluded . every time your pastor says there is a GOD & that he "feels his presence" he is LYING however your blind faith will argue otherwise, carry on believing if you want, but rest assured YOU WILL NEVER EVER prove the existence of GOD, all you can ever do is insist he DOES exist...erm not really good enough these days.no proof = NO GOD ,duh!
the Pastor of the church Peter Anderson told me once that he prayed to God to give him a 7 seater car -and guess what-God provided him with a 7 seater car. well done Peter, i'm glad God ignores mass genocide and global catastrophe to cater for your every whim.
whats next on the pray list - a plasma TV? a mirrored ceiling?
Well God doesnt ignore mass genocide or global catastrophes..come on you know that if you dont know God how how can you ask him for something person to your needs.pete does and he asks and if God thinks its just and right he will. Dont put the cart before the horse ask God yourself for the answers...ask Jesus to forgive you..iam off now like the sound of that mirrored ceiling lol
@TheMany
That's why i stopped posting to this guy...he simply doesn't deal with any arguments at all in any rational fashion, just simply sits there and insults you. I have much more better things to get on with than argue with a fool.
Prov 26:4
Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Or you will also be like him.
nextorx 1 year ago
@nextorx would you prefer i attempted to argue by relying on irrelevant theological superstitious nonsense ? what part of NO PROOF OF GOD do you not get? every question posed has been RATIONALLY responded to, yet the believers have consistently ignored the difficult questions.
herts4ever 1 year ago
@herts4ever try and prove that God doesn't exist then....
choccoloveable 1 year ago
@herts4ever: Yawn! You believe whatever makes you feel better.
TheMany 1 year ago
@herts4ever:
Ok so you can't answer my questions. I must of overpowered you with my stupidity.
You seem to think morality is essential for survival. Thats false.
TheMany 1 year ago
@TheMany DO WE EAT OUR BABIES????? NO, so there you have it you BUFFOON, BASIC ARGUABLE MORALITY. END OF STORY END OF ARGUMENT. and surprise surprise still no response to my questions to you...EXCEEDINGLY BORED NOW bye bye
herts4ever 1 year ago
@herts4ever
lol. Answer the questions then. With all the sufficiency you can muster.
TheMany 1 year ago
@TheMany any neutral reading this message board will see your immature stupidity , also i think you will find that it is YOU who is now failing to provide any response to the questions . you got PWNED so off you go back to churchy wurchy and have a little pray for the NON BELIEVERS maybe GOD WILL CURE YOUR HAIR LOSS, instead of saving millions of hungry or AIDS ridden children that would be kind of him: to help a baldy instead of some helpless kids eh, SEE THE LIGHT - THERE IS NO LIGHT!
herts4ever 1 year ago
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HAHA
Whats the matter? Can't answer my "selective" questions.
TheMany 1 year ago
@TheMany YOU are a TYPICAL apologist. THE "QUESTIONS" you refer to have been SUFFICIENTLY answered . SO why don't YOU ADMIT , that your entire point of view is based on THE EXISTENCE OF GOD & / or THE AUTHENTICITY of the BIBLE.... ah , that's right , cause that would leave you open to RIDICULE. THERE IS NOTHING THE MATTER WITH ME, I AM NOT THE ONE WHO IS SCARED OF THE DARK....BOO! check under the bed for the monsters wooohh spooky spooky , here comes GOD riding on RUDOLFS BACK ha ha.
herts4ever 1 year ago
@TheMany oh yeah and can you please address my earlier point that you have chosen to CONTINUALLY IGNORE which is that we have existed for MILLIONS OF YEARS long long before your HAPPY CLAPPY GOD NONSENSE - where was the lack of morality ensuring our SURVIVAL THEN????? oh dear .... YOU FAIL.
herts4ever 1 year ago
@herts4ever: So your morality is based on your 'interpretation' of certain influences. What happens when two people disagree in their 'interpretation'? Who has found this mysterious "Natural morality"? How do you determine who is right?
Your insults are amusing. Try harder and I might smile.
TheMany 1 year ago
@TheMany CUT TO THE CHASE ,ADMIT THAT YOU BELIEVE IN GOD ,JESUS, THE BIBLE OR WHATEVER. SO, rather than loose THAT argument hands down on the basis of the OBVIOUS lack of ANY evidence WHATSOEVER.
YOU decide TO SELECTIVELY question my POINTS.erm you have already IGNORED the point that we have existed for MILLIONS of years. did we do this with NO MORALITY. DUH, YOU are A MORON -does that AMUSE YOU? you just ignore the awkward points cause they don't fit with the beardy man in the sky theory
herts4ever 1 year ago
@herts4ever: Nope, your still not answering my question. Whats YOUR basis for morality? You opinion? Your culture? Those are meaningless standards, constantly shifting over time.
TheMany 1 year ago
@TheMany You are clearly a bit dim.. i have already answered the question , HUMANS have a NATURAL MORALITY, but My PERSONAL moral code is the result of my own LOGICAL & RATIONAL interpretation of both my existence and my cultural influence.WHY my PERSONAL moral stance is of any interest to you is beyond me in respect of this discussion-if thats what you can call it, I WAS ONLY making the IMPORTANT point that WE DO NOT NEED GOD OR RELIGION TO PROVIDE THIS. why don't YOU accept that???
herts4ever 1 year ago
@herts4ever: "existential experience, parental influence"
- right so the opinion of yourself and your parents. Thats you basis? Got anything a little more objective?
TheMany 1 year ago
@TheMany there are many contributing factors that may define and individuals moral code...the point i was making though is that WE DO NOT NEED the BIBLE, GOD or ANY form of RELIGION to provide this. we have existed as a species for MILLIONS of years LONG before the birth of Christianity and the printed press , DEAL WITH IT ...GOD IS A SUPERSTITION . if you like fantasy so much then stick to the lord of the rings it's a better read.
herts4ever 1 year ago
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@herts4ever: "only a ABSOLUTE IDIOT would argue that we need RELIGION , GOD , or THE BIBLE to provide us with a MORAL CODE of ETHICS."
Nice. What is your moral code of ethics based on?
TheMany 1 year ago
@TheMany errmmm existential experience, my parental influence ...logic & rational etc etc . The POINT i was making is that we have existed as a species for long enough to PROVE that we don't need spazzy religious doctrines to dictate our moral & ethical behavior. It is really quite obvious to any society that to kill each other etc is going to be counter productive to survival. cue a brainwashed reply...yawn.
herts4ever 1 year ago
@herts4ever
I think you may want to get some background on what it is you are critiquing...
type in "The Gospel - Mark Driscoll " in youtube (id link you the video if i could but youtube doesn't allow links in here)
That would be a good starting point for you. If you don't understand the basic message of Christianity, then how can you possibly critique it...
nextorx 1 year ago
@nextorx OH dear do you realise that Mark Driscoll is clearly a horrific example of someone afflicted by Narcissistic personality disorder ? clearly not...it is now evident that you lack the fundamental intelligence to continue this discussion on equal terms. i sincerely wish you all the best in your life and hope that you can free yourself from the spastic oppressive ideologies that are so fervently pursued by evangelical churches such as Destiny, good luck , your going to need it.
herts4ever 1 year ago
@herts4ever
So far herts4ever, you have failed at every point to answer the questions i have put to you, which leads me to simply conclude you don't have any rational response to give at all, rather simply enjoy using the caps lock key, and re-affirming the same boring assertions in different wording, without any proof or meaningful response. You also fail to understand the most basic points im making, as evidenced by your responses...
As an aside, God pre-dates the "history of language".
nextorx 1 year ago
@nextorx Actually you are talking nonsense , the concept of god & God's potentially could pre-date language however i don't know how you would prove such a thing...i think you have drowned yourself in your bizzarre indignant position that GOD exists in the manour described in the BIBLE etc, what about all the other faiths in the word? are they all wrong and Christianity is the only CORRECT faith lol lol lol pull the other one mr deluded, oh yeah , did you say hi to SANTA for me yet? ha ha
herts4ever 1 year ago
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@herts4ever
"we didn't evolve and exist as a species for millions of years with the need for a training manual." < Again, your pre-supposing this is true without proving it :) So many claims, so little to back them up... As i said earlier, assertion does not equal fact.
What then, if it is not a divine moral law giver, do you base your morality on?
Also, what would, in your view, constitute evidence for God?
nextorx 1 year ago
@nextorx ah ha ha ha this is RIDICULOUS , the history of written languages pre-dates CHRISTIANITY by FOUR THOUSAND YEARS lol and we were almost certainly living long long before that, your argument is ruined , FACE IT buddy there aint no case for GOD in a rational modern existence . enjoy your SUNDAY service & don't forget to GIVE ALL YOU CAN lol olol lol i done with this now, you'll never choose to observe the truth you much prefer FANTASY, say hi to Santa Claus for me xxx
herts4ever 1 year ago
@herts4ever
If believing in things that lack empirical evidence is daft, then why do you believe in things that lack empirical evidence? After all, don't you hold to the laws of logic and mathematics? Don't you think there is such a thing as "right" and "wrong"?
Furthermore, isn't it even the case that the principle "we shouldn't accept things without empirical evidence," is something for which empirical evidence cannot be provided?
nextorx 1 year ago
@nextorx WELL mr endorser of "magical omnipresent man in the sky" and all other stupid "SUPERSTITIONS" ... FOR A START only a ABSOLUTE IDIOT would argue that we need RELIGION , GOD , or THE BIBLE to provide us with a MORAL CODE of ETHICS. so your are clearly MENTAL. what is potentially RIGHT or WRONG does not require ANY religious or biblical influence whatsoever. we didn't evolve and exist as a species for millions of years with the need for a training manual. ha ha YOU are losing this!
herts4ever 1 year ago
finally i think the duty of proof is on your shoulders , why should i have to prove there is not a god - after all its deluded people like you who insist there is one...so where is he then..this amazing magic man in the sky...? oh that's right , theres no empirical evedence, we just got to take your word for it eh... yeah right and drop a tenner in the collection plate as-well lol don't think so... theistic...= THEORY with NO evidence..yeah that's intelligent lol bunch of sheep.
herts4ever 1 year ago
ermmm maybe if more people were less superstitious they wouldn't feel the need to hold the concept of GOD or religion separate from other topics worthy of humour, its healthy to laugh at stupid things -GOD being one of them. there is no difference between GOD and all other superstitions - GET OVER IT ha ha theres no GOD and all the closing your eyes waving your hands in the air and crap rock music can't prove otherwise- this church is a business, preying on the vulnerable
herts4ever 1 year ago
@herts4ever
Furthermore, I find it interesting that you find the need to "laugh at God". According to your world view, God doesn't exist, therefore why would you have the need to laugh (or tell others to laugh) at someone you say doesn't exist? Inconsistency is the sure sign of a failed argument. Be consistent to your own world view and stop borrowing from a theistic one.
nextorx 1 year ago
@herts4ever
You are failing to understand my point. You made the assertion for the non-existance of God, yet failed, and continue to fail to produce any proof of your assertion past your own biases and prejudices. From your replies, your simply proving the truth of my earlier post. Thank you.
nextorx 1 year ago
Herts4ever
I think you'll find that assertion does not equal truth. Simply saying and pre-supposing that God doesn't exist, doesn't mean He doesn't- where is your proof to back up your statement? As far as I can see, you have shown that your statement is simply mere opinion and presupposition with nothing to demonstrate its veracity. I look forward to your response.
nextorx 1 year ago
@nextorx i really could not have put that better myself. your correct , assertion does not equal truth therfor , when preachers "assert" about gods will or message or biblical interpretation it is purly THEIR OWN opinion. there is not a believer or practitioner of ANY faith ANYWHERE in the world who can DEMONSTRATE VERACITY in their CLAIMS, HA HA HA you just emptied your own argument. there is as much proof for a GOD as there is for a talking cheese sandwich.
herts4ever 1 year ago
@nextorx also , you say to the other poster that he said that church was a cult- he said he thought it was like a cult , that's different, also anyone can post an opinion on a forum and who cares if his "pastor knows" hopefully they have seen the real "light" and rejected the absolute blind stupidity that leads to faith in any god...honestly bunch of idiots the lot of you. all scared of the dark, go and watch some doug stanhope on youtube and learn to laugh at god
herts4ever 1 year ago
Scottishregaefan,
Upon what basis do you make your assertion that Destiny is a cult? I assume you have examples? If you believe that Destiny is a cult, and is teaching contrary to sound doctrine in core areas (which is what makes a cult), why have you not confronted the pastor there as per instruction in matt 18? If you have no proof, you are making baseless accusations on a public forum, slandering fellow believers in clear violation on 1 Peter 2:1. I wonder if your pastor knows about this?
nextorx 1 year ago
also isn't it funny how all these churches are registered charities....hmmmm no brainer there... nice little earner for the liars who preach about god to the gullible.
your church is just a youth club/ social group if you want to have people draw a decent wage on your charity whilst LYING about miracles etc fair enough but lets be honest here about whats going on , a bunch of liars telling lies to anyone who will listen HEY don't forget to GIVE ALL YOU CAN! disgusting
herts4ever 1 year ago
Our church teaches love.
Our church teaches family
Our church teaches kindness
Our church teaches God's word
Our church teaches respecting others faiths and beliefs.
I go to destiny church and its not a cult.
I love my church and i love my God and i see God move and grow every time i'm there (:
MusicInHerHead 1 year ago
@MusicInHerHead Do you "see" GOD "move & grow" ? well i would say you are a LIAR just like your pastor, because there is no GOD and you are deluded . every time your pastor says there is a GOD & that he "feels his presence" he is LYING however your blind faith will argue otherwise, carry on believing if you want, but rest assured YOU WILL NEVER EVER prove the existence of GOD, all you can ever do is insist he DOES exist...erm not really good enough these days.no proof = NO GOD ,duh!
herts4ever 1 year ago
Go to HOPE church in mussleburgh they are much more switched on, they are really aware of the truth of gods work
Destiny is more of a cult
scottishreggaefan 1 year ago
I would suggest you go to HOPE CHURCH in Mussleburgh
they are much more switched on than the Destiny lot, to be honest i found Destiny church to be a bit strange, more like a cult.
scottishreggaefan 1 year ago
the Pastor of the church Peter Anderson told me once that he prayed to God to give him a 7 seater car -and guess what-God provided him with a 7 seater car. well done Peter, i'm glad God ignores mass genocide and global catastrophe to cater for your every whim.
whats next on the pray list - a plasma TV? a mirrored ceiling?
joyandian 2 years ago 2
Well God doesnt ignore mass genocide or global catastrophes..come on you know that if you dont know God how how can you ask him for something person to your needs.pete does and he asks and if God thinks its just and right he will. Dont put the cart before the horse ask God yourself for the answers...ask Jesus to forgive you..iam off now like the sound of that mirrored ceiling lol
SIRHOPES 2 years ago
i went once - it was hilarious . Jesus ROCKS!!
joyandian 2 years ago
Like i'd go, but i'm way too shy.
VictorianDollParty 3 years ago
you should come along its great!!
xx
laurenaaf 2 years ago